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Ian Dalziel

Tue, 24 Jun 2014 06:32:14 +1200

Tate modern?
What We Do In the Shadows
The shorts I've seen, put me in mind of Polanski's
Fearless Vampire Killers art direction...
(but in Wellington, of course)
must check it out, soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8Ciz1G_Zm0

DexterX

Tue, 24 Jun 2014 02:03:57 +1200

Being shut out does open things up for independent artists to stream independently on ya know wider independent broadcast networks.

There is a geezer in Auckland who was streaming live open mic nights, a range of other gigs and also streaming local mostly home based music makers 24 hours and…

Geoff Lealand

Sun, 22 Jun 2014 19:22:48 +1200

A good time for local films, it seems (hobbits, excluded of course!) Fantail has been getting enthusiastic reviews, we went to a full house for What We Do In the Shadows on Friday night (much guffawing), and Dark Horse and Jake are coming soon.

Also, the All Blacks on Saturday…

Russell Brown

Sun, 22 Jun 2014 14:40:41 +1200

Interesting Music Week story on the YouTube wrangle: a leaked memo from the CEO of Believe Digital, which expresses support for the campaign against YouTube’s terms by WIN and IMPALA, but announces he has signed with YouTube on behalf of his clients.

He makes some thoughtful points.

An earlier story…

Ian Dalziel

Sun, 22 Jun 2014 10:05:08 +1200

from the same loft…
Damn. Meant to highlight that…
…and don’t forget this:
The World Premiere of Chad Taylor and Jonathan King’s movie REALITi will be during the Wellington Film Festival and then screened in the Auckland Film Festival – get your tickets early…

Sacha

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 17:56:32 +1200

just wait until you all have your 21st birthday parties, eh :)

Russell Brown

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 14:45:30 +1200

Yes, quite a few people seem to be making the Amazon comparison.

Craig Ranapia

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 13:37:40 +1200

If they try this one on in Europe, I suspect the EU will have something to say on competition grounds.

You don't have to be a corporate CEO to see that coming, and I can't a reason for all this needless drama beyond (as Billy Bragg put it in the…

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:30:18 +1200

Heartache tonight…
…disturbing affection for Bob Seger records
There is a universe where the magazines became
TurnThePage and Shakedown!, ChaCha became NightMoves …
…and Muldoon didn’t get drunk that night back in ’84!
His long run continues, he’s still in power!
Things are very different there…

Simon Grigg

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 12:11:37 +1200

& obvious static problems!

And Murray's disturbing affection for Bob Seger records (all of which I'd banned from the flat).

Ian Dalziel

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 11:29:59 +1200

galley slave...
further comment
what can I say...
back then waxing was manly!
Tucked away in that vast attic
with the heat, dust
& obvious static problems!

Russell Brown

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:21:06 +1200

without further comment …

Mr Grigg, your possession of old and potentially embarrassing photos of the rest of us may be of some concern ...

Simon Grigg

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 10:17:37 +1200

Isn’t most music on youtube blocked in Germany because the performing rights association there wont accept their shitty terms?

It's a bit more complicated, but wiki has some of it here.

GEMA is a weird beast, very staunch but sometimes the artists are less than GEMA-positive as stand-offs…

Samuel Scott

Sat, 21 Jun 2014 08:33:27 +1200

Isn't most music on youtube blocked in Germany because the performing rights association there wont accept their shitty terms? Maybe ASCAP, PRS, APRA etc should try and get some sort of world wide action against this monster. Blah blah free internet and all that, but the reality is that this…

Simon Grigg

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 19:56:16 +1200

without further comment ...

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 19:20:11 +1200

Correctly “RipItUp” so I’m told by Murray
Sheesh, and how many times did I Letraset© those letters!

It’s the all caps and optical kerning that throws me Guv…

still what would Murray know,
RIP IT UP was good enough for his issue 1 rate card …
;- )

By running…

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 19:17:31 +1200

Damn. Meant to highlight that today. My brain is cluttered to the max. Next week ...

Simon Grigg

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 18:59:08 +1200

Rip It Up story has gone up at Audio Culture ..

Correctly "RipItUp" so I'm told by Murray with some authority :)

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 17:40:46 +1200

and start again...
I've only just recently seen that Murray Cammick's
Rip It Up story has gone up at Audio Culture ...
Immortality at last!
(conditions may apply)
no need for a tombstone
just a... 'r.i.p.url...' ?

Now where do we go to for the interactive walk through…

Alan Perrott

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:30:57 +1200

I'm not fussed by youtube as long as I can still watch all them ye olde clips – it's a fantastic tool for diggers.

for instance, just grabbed myself a stonking stash of 2nd hand 7s at Southbound and got to check them out via the interwebs. rather excited to…

Andrew Moore

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:27:50 +1200

It was great to see you up there RB, you nailed the vocals!!! Whilst there's no video (as yet) there is this epic photo by Alister Reid that shows you in full flight.

bob daktari

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:12:03 +1200

Seems that way to me too, which is why I'd really like to see some more details

I can't help but wonder if like so many before them (refer big retail, other digital platforms et al) they've decided that due to the huge number of indies its all just a…

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:54:54 +1200

Weirdly or not… Youtube has over the past 18 months become a whole lot more user friendly for labels and artists down here and I assume globally

Which is why what's happening now is such a retrograde step. They're undoing all the progress, it seems to me.

bob daktari

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:22:16 +1200

Things have been a bit fiddly for indie bands in Youtube for a while, but this will just make things worse.

Weirdly or not... Youtube has over the past 18 months become a whole lot more user friendly for labels and artists down here and I assume globally

The Nun/Warners…

Kumara Republic

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:13:30 +1200

Two decades of consolidation means that the “big three” control most of the copyrights that YouTube wants. They’ve made their agreements and hundreds of indie labels have been presented with non-negotiable deals substantially inferior to those the three majors were offered. That leaves some important artists, most notably those on…

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:04:43 +1200

More than a couple of times over the years someone’s tried to post a Headless Chickens’ clip on their F/b page, only for it to be denied because it’s “not available in this country” or “the artist has not given their permission” or some such.

This is an artefact of…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:57:20 +1200

The Pa-Pa-Party...
"Music is central to the community Andy and I are part of and it was fittingly integral to the party."
Dad Rock 2.0?
:- )

(h/t 2 BP)

Grant McDougall

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:55:47 +1200

Things have been a bit fiddly for indie bands in Youtube for a while, but this will just make things worse.

More than a couple of times over the years someone's tried to post a Headless Chickens' clip on their F/b page, only for it to be denied because it's…

Rich of Observationz

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:55:12 +1200

If they try this one on in Europe, I suspect the EU will have something to say on competition grounds.

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:50:05 +1200

As in what rate is being offered and does it differ from that the majors have signed up for… and you know the other important details needed before one can make an informed decision as to if they truly are evil or just misunderstood on this count – as much…

bob daktari

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:39:45 +1200

There seems to be a lot missing from the various Youtube stories circulating – mainly facts.

As in what rate is being offered and does it differ from that the majors have signed up for... and you know the other important details needed before one can make an informed decision…

Public Address

Fri, 20 Jun 2014 12:39:45 +1200

Discussion from blog post.