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		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Friday Music: About Apple Music</title>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>As I’ve said before, one reason to go with lossless if you can is transcoding, you might not be able to hear the difference between MP3 and lossless, but you are more likely to be able to notice a file that’s been transcoded from MP3 into Ogg Vorbis or whatever.</q>…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2015 15:44:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I got 5/6 on my Mac speakers &ndash; didn't get the classical recording (although given its age it would be interesting to know the original bitrate). I don't consider I have particularly good ears, although I do know what to listen for, e.g. the sibilants (?) on the Suzanne Vega…
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Suzanne Vega annoys me just as much as she did back in the day. Vinyl or WAV, it's all the same to me! :-)</q></p><p>+1</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Same, but that's more than chance rate, given the fact each sample is out of three. I only identified one at 128 kbps.</p><p>And I have also learned that Suzanne Vega annoys me just as much as she did back in the day. Vinyl or WAV, it's all the same…</p>
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				<title>Vivid</title>
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						<p>NPR has an <a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">intersting test</a> of your perception of audio quality. Various songs in 128 &amp; 320kbps mp3 and uncompressed wave files.<br />I'd be interested to see what the results are for those that say they prefer high quality audio. It's not as obvious as the audiophiles would have you believe.…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I'm spinning a few discs there</q></p><p>macho styles, right</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Re: James Last &ndash; when New Order toured NZ in the late 80s, they said Last had expressed interest in covering Blue Monday with his orchestra. Sadly, I don't think this ever came to pass...</q></p><p>Pity, that. A couple of years ago I attended a gold coin donation afternoon accordion…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						The quiet impending giant in the Asian music streaming market is <a href="http://tech.thaivisa.com/line-music-japan/11605/?utm_source=tech-newsletter-20150612-1405&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=news " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Line</a>. It exists on just about every smartphone in the region as the dominant messaging service and launched its music service in Japan and Thailand in May. A month in it has 58m subscribers and is soon to…
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				<title>David Bishop</title>
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						Re: James Last &ndash; when New Order toured NZ in the late 80s, they said Last had expressed interest in covering Blue Monday with his orchestra. Sadly, I don't think this ever came to pass...
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				<title>Murray Hewitt</title>
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						Okay it's a crappy mp3, but you'll still get the power of that baseline (and the voice).  My daughter, Avalon, today won The Edge acapella (A capella? a'capella? &ndash; it's a bloody cover, alright?) competition with this version of "Take Me To Church"
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>To my ears, nothing sounds worse than a 128K rip of of a favourite track &ndash; it's like nails across the blackboard.</q></p><p>No argument there. Given the option to pay a premium for FLAC over high-bitrate MP3 I'll usually take it. But it has nothing to do with with Roon's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:03:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						RIP jazz giant Ornette Coleman, too.
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p><q>The relationship between me, music and Apple is … complicated.</q></p><p>So, not a Beatles' fan, then ? Don't worry, I'll get me coat...</p><p><q>So, no Adele, Arctic Monkeys or The Prodigy.</q></p><p>You say that like that's a bad thing. Putting me coat on now...</p>
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				<title>Clarke</title>
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						<p><q>While Tidal might offer something, as a paid app Roon by itself makes some dubious "audiophile" claims while barely matching the features of totally free players such as Media Monkey and Music Bee.</q></p><p>Both the apps you've referenced are still using metadata tagging as the mechanism for arranging and relating…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>What you need is Roon &ndash; once you've used this little puppy with a TIDAL account, you'll never bother with iTunes or the Apple ecosystem ever again. </q></p><p>While Tidal might offer something, as a paid app Roon by itself makes some dubious "audiophile" claims while barely matching the features of…</p>
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				<title>Clarke</title>
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						<p>What you need is <a href="https://roonlabs.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Roon</a> &ndash; once you've used this little puppy with a TIDAL account, you'll never bother with iTunes or the Apple ecosystem ever again. </p><p>Things to like include a user interface that actually provides the artist and music discovery experience that everyone's been blathering about for the…</p>
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				<title>Stupid</title>
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						One word: Asbestos :-(
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						St Kevin’s Arcade update: I’m told Paul Reid has said he definitely doesn’t want to turn the arcade into Ponsonby Central, just to refurbish and restore it, and more particularly he has no plans to do anything to Wine Cellar/Whammy. Benefit of the doubt, I reckon.
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				<title>Stupid</title>
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						Great to see you're getting out DJing Russell, sadly I won't be able to catch your Saturday 27 June 7-11pm set at Golden Dawn as I'll be checking out Sam Hunt with David Kilgour & The Heavy Eights at the Kings Arms. I look forward to hearing how it goes at…
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<p>And a gratuitous vaguely connected favourite of mine.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/OM5WZfoE95E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://youtu.be/OM5WZfoE95E</a></p><p>I wonder what Dave Brock makes of it all.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Real Groovy? Brian Rudman has a plan –</q></p><p>That's a weird column. He proposes an "arts precinct" in the old admin building and concludes by explaining why it's a non-starter.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>but still no Linux support I guess – no music for me I can’t buy on CDs I guess</q></p><p>You don't really want to be buying 256k AAC files anyway :-)</p><p>There's always <a href="https://www.spotify.com/nz/download/linux/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spotify for Linux</a>.</p>
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				<title>Graham Dunster</title>
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						Real Groovy? Brian Rudman has a plan &ndash; <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11463668" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=11463668</a>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>To be fair, they’ll launch Apple Music on MacOS, Windows and iOS and will have an Android client in a couple of months. That’s a lot of people covered.</q></p><p>but still no Linux support I guess &ndash; no music for me I can't buy on CDs I guess</p>
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				<title>Mikee Loop</title>
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						The Apple Music royalty pay out comparison to Spotify in the DMN article is flawed. The leaked Apple split is the master tape share only and they have compared that with the overall Spotify royalty share of master and copyright! Not to mention the gross verse net definitions which differ…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Don’t expect much on the radio front, radio works best on a local community driven level… curious to see how it works though, especially given the addition of a Rinse FM person into the mix</q></p><p>I'm prepared to add it to my radio diet and see if I like the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I’m not an Apple customer, they don’t have an iTunes that runs on any platform I use day to day, they’re sort of a foreign country to me. I used to be a fan, even a developer, but they’ve closed off their world from the rest of us.</q></p><p>To be…</p>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p>a nuclear family of three can use one spotify account on 3 devices for the single price &ndash; zero dollars if on one of the spark plans</p><p>streaming mobile families need to factor in data charges on each individual account as well as subscription is only one part of the…</p>
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						If the indicated pricing is right, and the android app appears soon, Apple Music will be enormously successful. For the simple reason that if you're a family of 4-5 listeners it's roughly half the price of Spotify ($20NZD vs $39NZD for 5).
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				<title>Alan Perrott</title>
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						it's been a particularly crap week for my icons &ndash; first John Keating, one the great English big band leaders/ arrangers and such. like many of those guys (Geoff Love, John Gregory, Alan Tew, Keith Mansfield etc and so on) he was always willing to experiment with odd ideas and…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I'm not an Apple customer, they don't have an iTunes that runs on any platform I use day to day, they're sort of a foreign country to me. I used to be a fan, even a developer, but they've closed off their world from the rest of us.
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						I'm sure due to the size of Apple this foray into streaming will be successful, mainly for the fact they have an established client base... I'd wager the not so young more conservative members of the iTunes/apple community will love streaming via apple, for most others I'm not so sure…
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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