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				<title>david westcot</title>
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						Interesting ! About a month ago I took a printout of your posting on Sue Grey & the CBD debacle to my MP David Clark [shadow health minister ] . I also did my best to impress on him the usefulness of cannabinoid products generally but esp CBD for the whole…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Wow: Dunne just <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1706/S00032/government-to-ease-restrictions-on-cannabidiol.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">announced that doctors will be able to prescribe cannabidiol without restriction</a>.</p><p>I went through <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1706/S00032/government-to-ease-restrictions-on-cannabidiol.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the technical argument behind the scenes</a> in January. The Expert Advisory Committee on Drugs – which has been sitting on this for a year – came through. Sue Grey's a champ.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:03:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ross Bell</title>
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						And one other thing Anderton did, which has been lost to time (And the PSA) is amend the Misuse of Drugs Act to add a 4th category for drug classification: the <a href="http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/420434 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> "Restricted Substances" aka "class D's category</a> which allowed for regulated sales ... sadly Parliament ended up putting…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 19:56:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>When the amendment was being debated in Parliament, Tony Ryall attacked it as “all part of a politically correct, liberal agenda being pushed by this Government and the health authorities under the name of harm minimisation”, which was the most despicable, destructive politicking over people’s lives.</q></p><p>I have a dim…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 17:10:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>When the amendment was being debated in Parliament, Tony Ryall attacked it as “all part of a politically correct, liberal agenda being pushed by this Government and the health authorities under the name of harm minimisation”, which was the most despicable, destructive politicking over people’s lives.</q><br />He taught his acolyte,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 14:46:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And his prohibitionist views on cannabis are largely emotional and driven by family tragedies. On the other hand…</q></p><p>It's a bit of a persistent factoid that Philippa Anderton's death was drug-related. It was deeply tragic, but it was related to mental illness rather than drug use. His son did suffer…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:48:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>I’d have thought that it’s the incongruity of Anderton’s more throwback views with his wider supposed progressiveness that’s historically riled and exasperated many of his critics. While I get that politicians may feel unjustly maligned, my squeamishness is triggered when you weigh in to dismiss their ordinary constituents as a…</q>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:36:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>It would seem that it's Anderton's belief in himself as some sort of historical great man that's led him to hold to some of his more controversial views. It probably accounts for his ruthlessness in dumping his former Alliance comrades once he'd secured his own terms for returning to the…</q>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>The animus towards Dunne is quite reminiscent of the way people kept on hurling invective at his predecessor, Anderton, even as he was doing some quite progressive things.</q></p><p>I'd have thought that it's the incongruity of Anderton's more throwback views with his wider supposed progressiveness that's historically riled and exasperated…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:35:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Ah yes – <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=11851680" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here it is</a>:</p><p><q> I just finished reading Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari. It makes a compelling case for drug law reform which has really given me something to think about although I still have issues with decriminalisation.</q></p><p>Seems he might have a way to go yet. I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2017 09:23:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I read somewhere recently (a Herald profile, maybe) that he was reading Chasing the Dream.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 20:31:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>It’s unlikely to be a coincidence Dunne is promoting liberalisation in the first election I can remember where a clear majority of the country want cannabis law reform. </q></p><p>Gah, I know that I said I wanted to move past discussion about Dunne, but a year ago he was literally the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 16:29:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>If National get in again, I feel pretty confident that it would become politically expedient, based on everything he has ever done in the role, to expect him to compromise on this. </q><br />It’s unlikely to be a coincidence Dunne is promoting liberalisation in the first election I can remember where…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2017 15:25:45 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Back when he did – and it included the drug warrior Pauline Gardiner. I can't recall exactly what word he used, but it wasn't far off "nutbar".</q></p><p>At one point he had the theo-cons Paul "God's Little Rally Driver" Adams and Gordon Copeland beside him in Parliament.</p>
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				<title>Tadhg Stopford</title>
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						<p>Hi Matthew, love your work.<br />..,,it depends on how you measure a U turn.<br /> At a macro level it is exactly the same Prohibitionist policy that is preventing us from reducing our health costs and improving our health outcomes through use of raw, non psycho active, dietary cannabis.<br /> (The sentences…</p>
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				<title>Tadhg Stopford</title>
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						<p>I agree with you completely Katharine. His 'new position' still fails to acknowledge the endo cannabinoid system which all vertebrates share, and which regulates our health at a cellular level, and which can be cheaply optimised by raw, non psychoactive, dietary Cannabis.<br /> Essentially, I believe, he wants to continues prohibition…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>rocked a 'pompadour'...</q></p><p>Perhaps what Dunne needs is a nice <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll_D7exdiDo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">biopic</a>.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><em>pomp and circumstance... </em><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDdyr4CK9I" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdDdyr4CK9I</a><br /><q> and his <strong>pomp</strong> can make him hard to like at times.</q><br />That's harsh, Franz kafka (and Elvis) really rocked a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompadour_(hairstyle)" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">'pompadour'...</a><br />But then again I have trust issues with men with pony-tails!</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> It just seems odd to come down on him for proposing something really bold.</q></p><p>That isn't what I'm coming down on him for. But yes, this goes nowhere. I don't know what's possible in drug reform because that comes down entirely to whether it gets political support, how the horse…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>was only a sop to the nutbars in his caucus</em></p><p>Dunne has a caucus? “Nutbars”, such a cute expression.</q></p><p>Back when he did – and it included the drug warrior Pauline Gardiner. I can't recall exactly what word he used, but it wasn't far off "nutbar".</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>was only a sop to the nutbars in his caucus </q></p><p>Dunne has a caucus?  "Nutbars", such a cute expression.</p>
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				<title>Tamara</title>
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						I think Hilary was referring to O'Connor, not Dunne.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Where’s his campaign message, his public statements that having seen all the evidence presented over 15 years in the role that he really, finally, actually stands for something other than centrism?</q></p><p>In the speech, statement and interviews linked to in the post above, in which he proposes an undeniably radical…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>I'm a bit frustrated this is all turning into an argument about Dunne rather than a discussion of policy, but I suppose it's my fault for putting his name in the headline.</p><p>I'm genuinely excited by the fact that the Act will <em>have</em> to be rewritten after the election(the process…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Tell me again how Dunne’s the problem.</q></p><p>Because <em>functionally</em> it's as if McClay still held the portfolio.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>So your problem is that he listened to evidence and changed his mind?</q></p><p>Well, from what you said earlier:</p><p><q>Although when I interviewed Dunne last year, he insisted that he’d always held such views and making no change to the law on cannabis a condition of United Future’s coalition support…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>BTW, Dunne actually <em>was</em> replaced for a time as associate Health minister by a no-name Nat from the regions: Todd McClay.</p><p>Here's McClay, last month, <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/91921115/mps-blast-morgans-decriminalis" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">rushing to the press to denounce Gareth Morgan's cannabis decriminalisation proposal</a>:</p><p><q>"Young people taking drugs and voting should never be linked. Drug abuse is harmful…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The animus towards Dunne is quite reminiscent of the way people kept on hurling invective at his predecessor, Anderton, even as he was doing some quite progressive things.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If he genuinely believed in legalization all along, then I think he should have made a damned stand on it, from the position he held.</q></p><p>So your problem is that he listened to evidence and changed his mind?</p><p><q>Sometime before now, when it’s likely he’s not going to make another…</q></p>
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						<p><q>So he might be saying stuff about cannabis law reform now but as to actually doing anything about it – highly doubtful.</q></p><p>Yup. I'm not buying it. The guy is like a double agent for prohibition. </p><p><q>I’m puzzled about what you think he should have achieved. He delivered the National…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I’m sorry, but professing good intentions and yet doing very little beyond temporarily legalizing much, much more dangerous alternatives</q></p><p>No, they were legal for years before that. The Psychoactive Substances Act was actually a very bold initiative, one that passed with only one dissenting vote in Parliament. Clearly, synthetic cannabinoids…</p>
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						The unfair comment related to Greg O'Connor, not Peter Dunne. Peter Dunne has been in Parliament for 30 years or so and some of it as my local MP. In the last decade or so he has had the infuriating habit of saying and doing nothing much until the last…
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						<p><q>Give me a stoner over a drunk anyday</q></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no00oHll06w" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no00oHll06w</a></p>
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						<p><q>That is an unfair and untrue comment</q></p><p>Obvious hyperbole, I'd say. He'd need to be in his eighties. For the excessively factual, he was first a minister in 1987 (for Labour) and, has been seated in a ministerial limo, or at least a government supporting MP, for most years since…</p>
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						15 years in the job. I'm sorry, but professing good intentions and yet doing very little beyond temporarily legalizing much, much more dangerous alternatives have worn my patience well thin with this character. He sat square in this position, blocking anyone else from having it, and claims he always wanted…
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						<p><q> <em>I don’t follow this issue very closely but hasn’t this been a massive slow u-turn by Peter Dunne?</em></p><p>I believe this comes under the heading of “when I’m presented with contrary evidence, I change my mind, what do you do?”</q></p><p>There's a similar story with his predecessor, Jim Anderton, who…</p>
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				<title>Neil</title>
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						Some of the home made synthetic recipes out there being sold for good money are quite horrifying. None of it illegal but certainly brain rotting.
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<q>He was in a different role then. Just like public servants who have to toe the government line when it might be contrary to their personal views. I was surprised to hear him speak and find he is actually quite liberal on a lot of things. From his years on…</q>
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						He was in a different role then. Just like public servants who have to toe the government line when it might be contrary to their personal views. I was surprised to hear him speak and find he is actually quite liberal on a lot of things. From his years on…
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						The day can't dawn soon enough when we no longer have to second-guess the minutiae of drug law reform via the sphincterish prism of Dunne's "personality". Naturally it's better than dealing with Jim Anderton's throwback bigotry, currently being echoed by Bill English, but we've been subjected to this crap for…
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						<p><q>I don't follow this issue very closely but hasn't this been a massive slow u-turn by Peter Dunne? </q></p><p>I believe this comes under the heading of "when I'm presented with contrary evidence, I change my mind, what do you do?"</p>
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						<p><q>That is an unfair and untrue comment. Incidentally, Greg O’Connor is on the record with a policy very similar to this one of Peter Dunne’s.</q></p><p>O'Connor, I think, toned it down when he realised he might be a Labour candidate, but he's on record as saying that if we're to…</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>but on a formal level, diversion and pre-charge warnings only work for people with a clean slate.</q></p><p>Does that also mean earlier (non-drug related) offences, such as vehicle related offences (unpaid fines, driving without a licence, etc.) disqualifies someone for that clean slate consideration?</p>
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						<p><q>Maybe I’m overly dramatic – maybe we don’t prosecute all that many people for possession anymore </q></p><p>Yeah, nah, we do. Police discretion is having an impact, but on a formal level, diversion and pre-charge warnings only work for people with a clean slate.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>That is an unfair and untrue comment. Incidentally, Greg O'Connor is on the record with a policy very similar to this one of Peter Dunne's. </p><p>My question is why was Peter Dunne so resistant to Helen Kelly's request for medicinal cannabis for her and others only last year?</p>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p><q>hasn’t this been a massive slow u-turn by Peter Dunne?</q></p><p>Hmn..only if decriminalisation of of all unregulated drugs is in direct conflict with Dunnes’ alcohol and tobacco interests.</p>
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						<p>You don't get to have been a minister in every government since the Vietnam war without trimming a little to the winds.</p><p>Labour have put a hanger and flogger up in Dunne's loyal and beloved seat, so it's quite possible that there are a few Wellington liberals who might be…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<title>Matthew  Hooton</title>
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						I don't follow this issue very closely but hasn't this been a massive slow u-turn by Peter Dunne?
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p>Plus investment in health interventions. </p><p>I can see centrist governments going Californian and taxing the drugs but meaningful investment is rehab is unlikely with the current decreases of investment in the public sector.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Maybe I’m overly dramatic</q></p><p>Not that overly. All the things you mention are happening daily, and they shouldn't be.</p>
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						<p><q>positive noises </q></p><p>Yes, but I'm a bit more impatient than that :-). Not that I'm a pot smoker but I think it just criminal that we might put anyone up in front of the courts for minor possession for personal consumption. How many future job/employment prospects have we ruined today…</p>
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				<title>Ross Bell</title>
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						Dunno about that &ndash; Dunne started musing about this back in 2013, and has developed his views over the past few years &ndash; his most recent thoughts were canvassed at a Police conference at the start of May, followed up with a blog post. The recent media was prompted by…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Bill English remains <a href="http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/05/prime-minister-bill-english-rejects-peter-dunne-s-way-forward-for-weed.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">resolutely not on board</a>:</p><p><q>Standing in Mr Dunne's way is his ministerial boss &ndash; the Prime Minister. Bill English says Mr Dunne is "making a lot of assumptions" about a drug that "does real damage to people".</p><p>"We don't want to encourage open trading in cannabis and…</q></p>
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						<p>I wondered whether the timing of Dunne's announcement was in part in response to TOP announcing a candidate running in Ohariu;</p><p><a href="http://www.top.org.nz/jessica" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.top.org.nz/jessica</a></p><p>And of course here's their cannabis policy;</p><p><a href="http://www.top.org.nz/top8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.top.org.nz/top8</a></p><p>Also to legalise and regulate.</p>
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						<p>I remain skeptical to the extent that Dunne seems unprepared to concede that authorities prosecuting people growing for personal use is part of the problem <em>he’s</em> trying to address. It’s a no-win for those lacking the discretionary income to actually pay for dried plant matter.  </p><p>And yet…</p>
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						Agree. Which is why Dunne is saying Portugal (Decrim + health), plus legal regulation of "lower harm" drugs like weed.
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						I'd certainly accept a Portugal style step change as a very important one without arguing the toss about the perpetuation of organized crime. The harm reduction is so compelling, at every level. It would be nice if they weren't flying solo on this one and we could get one more…
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						Great piece, great writing as ever, looking forward to the symposium.
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						I reckon "Portugal" is code for some type of decrminalisation and health referral model. It's a good code word because lots of people now know what happened in Portugal &ndash; it was drug law reform PLUS investment in health interventions. It's a much more simpler way to sell the idea.…
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						Meanwhile, an indication of how high the stakes can be: <a href="https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/05/28/30824/nz-must-speak-out-against-bloody-philippines-drug-war" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Philippines' murderous drug war on its own citizens</a>.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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