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TracyMac

Mon, 30 Apr 2012 11:51:19 +1200

Goth is about the only identifiable clubbing scene in Canberra, still. Beyond 18-year-olds dancing to dire Gaga remixes or "urban" beats.

As well as a regular club night, there is a shop specializing in the clothes and accessories in the middle of town. Ages range from early 20s (at least)…

81stcolumn

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 23:34:04 +1200

Oh golly, that's probably more kindness than the post deserved, thank you.

JacksonP

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:32:19 +1200

Hi 81st.

Doesn't seem to like shortened Youtube links. Tidied it up for you.
Cheers.

81stcolumn

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:16:50 +1200

Oh bother, that didn’t go at all well never mind envory the not quit one hit wonder played to death on Sunday nights in a nightclub best forgotten.

As for me I wouldn’t part with the Snake for anything I don’t know about growing old as a goth but it…

Joe Wylie

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 23:27:58 +1200

We came back to be haunted by the ragged curtains blowing out of the windows facing down Victoria St and then the pigeons flying in.
Only this morning the esteemed Kim Deitch happened to post a page from a past meisterwork on that very theme.

Hebe

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:54:09 +1200

Nah it's just some people that you used to know.....Every now and again I wonder about a person I still share my house with...

Hebe

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:50:54 +1200

We came back to be haunted by the ragged curtains blowing out of the windows facing down Victoria St and then the pigeons flying in.I saw the exact same thing on the new cordon-edge late afternoon last Sunday: the old MED/Southpower building on the corner of Manchester and Armagh. No-one…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:46:19 +1200

Isn’t some of the dunedin stuff a *little* gothy
Gotye?
Nah it's just some people that you used to know.....

Just thinking

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:26:09 +1200

Nothing was more Goth than the Park Royal/Crowne Plaza after 22 Feb 2011.
We came back to be haunted by the ragged curtains blowing out of the windows facing down Victoria St and then the pigeons flying in.
I had visions of Meatloaf living off raw Pigeons.
I was wrong…

Hebe

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:52:33 +1200

Isn't some of the dunedin stuff a *little* gothyAnd, um, sort of goth-ish, I was told that Wellington has the highest per capita sales of Joy Division in the world.

StepDoh

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:31:47 +1200

*Sticks head above parapet*

Isn't some of the dunedin stuff a *little* gothy

*Ducks*

StepDoh

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:10:46 +1200

Think my defining memory of Goth is our (really quite evil) white cat taking pot shots at the large black hairdos of my Goth Sister and Gothy Boyfriends from the staircase.

I know it’s almost pop, but is there no room for the cure in your hearts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8CDERzun4k

And the…

Robert Fox

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:32:51 +1200

As this almost is turning into a Banshees homage here is a "pre-Goth" Siouxsie on the briefly fantastic ATV show Revolver – hosted by the late, great Peter Cook in 1978. The base line in Hong Kong Garden is pure Punk genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiVfRoywQtk

JacksonP

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:21:37 +1200

Does The Glove qualify as a Goth Supergroup?

Steven Severin of the Banshees and Robert Smith of... well, you know.

With unheralded vocalist Jeanette Landray. (Budgie's girlfriend)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWXjsWd-lto

Jackie Clark

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:51:15 +1200

I had forgotten all about Siouxie and the Banshees. My friend Carol was mad about them. I believe we may have done our special dance to that one, at some point.

Lilith __

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:47:30 +1200

Lightning: check
Maiden in white: check
Scattered rose petals: check
Candelabras: check
Crosses: check
Darkened church: check
Thrashy guitars: check

...but the rest may not be what you expect!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gzrEHi44c

you can read more about visual kei and Gothic lolita fashion.

stephen walker

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:41:06 +1200

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pLxOMgbO1w

JacksonP

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:24:40 +1200

By the way, in keeping with the Goths never die meme, had you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFE2-XNkVjw

JacksonP

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:08:00 +1200

Wow, The March Violets. I still have Snake Dance on 7”. And most of The Cults singles on 12s.

But then I was never a Goth, just a sympathizer, and kind of liked dancing to them. Especially Bauhaus’ cover of Telegram Sam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYoeFNoOrM&feature=related

Some more fringe dwellers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1_1H2036ZY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9otg_Cm50RE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aROkoDzOArs&feature=related

nothingelseon

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:45:34 +1200

Nothing quite so much fun as winding up serious Killing Joke fans by calling them Goth :-) Sisters of Mercy can still pack a dancefloor

Russell Brown

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:55:46 +1200

This is Friday and we should probably post great Goth songs, right? (there are some ... )

Good list! Although I daresay some fans of several of those bands would get quite upset at the suggestion that they were, in fact, Goth.

Kumara Republic

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:44:31 +1200

Goths never stop being goths. A few years ago I was talking to a friend of a friend at a party. Later my friend revealed this guy “used to be a goth”. Used to? Despite looking like a cooldude designer in his late 30s, he was dressed all in black…

philipmatthews

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:25:10 +1200

This is Friday and we should probably post great Goth songs, right? (there are some ... )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXW0WaST4z8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0zzfTe2nlI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP7BhDjB2WI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pieI3ctfMfM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6vZ0iKFn4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP9-OiUr1TU

Steve Curtis

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:07:02 +1200

the dogged refusal of goths to stop being goths despite their advancing years.
Hollywood has thought of it- all ready
“This must be the place” starring Sean Penn as an ageing goth rocker

This must be the place

Robyn Gallagher

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:55:48 +1200

Goths never stop being goths. A few years ago I was talking to a friend of a friend at a party. Later my friend revealed this guy "used to be a goth". Used to? Despite looking like a cooldude designer in his late 30s, he was dressed all in black…

Ian Dalziel

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:48:34 +1200

bau wow wow haus.....
Goths = Kohl minors?

Robert Fox

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:23:38 +1200

Historically, it came out of glam as much as post-punk, or merged the two traditions
Has anyone done genealogy of Goth bands? Musically I always thought it started with a misinterpretation of Joy Division by a load of blokes in Yorkshire and went steadily downhill from there. I think the…

Jonathan Ganley

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:17:51 +1200

Perhaps it’s a phase: a few of my friends had their Goth years before moving on to other things, such as being fine reggae DJs

Indeed ... Dubhead pictured above, with Silent Decree, at Mainstreet in 1983. As I noted on my blog post: "There was only a pair of…

Russell Brown

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:07:22 +1200

One positive about Gothdom, I always thought, was that it allowed for femininity – both in girls and boys. It wasn’t a sexist scene, and it was far from macho – which even punk and other things around in the 80s were.

Good point. I've also just been agreeing with…

philipmatthews

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:57:36 +1200

One positive about Gothdom, I always thought, was that it allowed for femininity — both in girls and boys. It wasn't a sexist scene, and it was far from macho — which even punk and other things around in the 80s were. There wasn't much objectifying of women going on…

Russell Brown

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:43:12 +1200

A bit harsh, maybe… but really! An analysis of Goth music with no mention of the Sisters of Mercy? ;)

Oddly enough, the Sisters didn't feature as much as the more, er, crap bands.

Martin Lindberg

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:31:37 +1200

Perhaps I was too harsh

Not at all.

Robert Fox

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:58:25 +1200

alma mater of Lucian Freud, Malcolm McLaren, John Cale and Mary Quant
and Robert Fox........... although my influence on the art world extended no further than the Marquis of Granby.

Shaun Lott

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:38:03 +1200

My highschool biology teacher once said 'if you can pick up a pen you can do sociology'. A bit harsh, maybe... but really! An analysis of Goth music with no mention of the Sisters of Mercy? ;)

Ana Simkiss

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:37:02 +1200

Ha, reminds me of the Darren Hanlon song about his punk flatmate, with the deathless lyric "Punk's not dead, she's just gone to bed..."

Public Address

Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:37:02 +1200

Discussion from blog post.