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nzlemming

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 19:27:04 +1300

The irony, it burns. I wonder if he really believes any of it? Especially about monopolies and personal responsibility?

Kumara Republic

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:49:10 +1300

Murdoch’s latest tweets sound remarkably like Newt Gingrich’s infamous ‘Literati’ press release. Poetic justice will come the moment John Lithgow recites them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUHkYO303k

Rob Stowell

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:26:34 +1300

easy to hit back hard, which preparing
Bet there are one or two politicians who feel a tad shaky as they check their closets for stray bones... :)

Russell Brown

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:20:40 +1300

Meanwhile, @rupertmurdoch is losing it a bit on Twitter right now.

Last 3 tweets:

"Seems every competitor and enemy piling on with lies and libels. So bad, easy to hit back hard, which preparing."

"Enemies many different agendas, but worst old toffs and right wingers who still want last century's…

nzlemming

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:08:26 +1300

This is the gift that keeps on giving ;-)

Hans Versluys

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:01:49 +1300

"Bring back Stratos/Triangle – whose disappearance strikes as another murky affair."

Nothing murky about it. Kordia spectrum monopoly charging was very much the cause of the demise of Stratos. Triangle is still going, by the way, plus live streaming online on e-cast TV, Live News and Scoop.

Kumara Republic

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:01:44 +1300

News sold NDS a couple of weeks ago to CISCO for $5bn – they might be a little pissed about these revelations affecting the value of the business.

Newscorp also helped run Ansett Australia into the ground before it passed the financial timebomb to AirNZ. Pattern, much?

Andrew E

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 12:34:00 +1300

The Guardian reports that the Communications Minister in Australia, Stephen Conroy, has asked the police to investigate.

Aidan

Thu, 29 Mar 2012 11:58:52 +1300

Check this out. NDS withheld "fixes" for piracy of DirecTV services for 15 MONTHS to depress the share price for a Rupe takeover:

http://www.afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/how_nds_made_the_price_right_ePmeEzXgttjzE6bPMHsoVO

General Motors were the ones who lost out. I'm thinking there might be some serious lawsuits. News sold NDS a couple of weeks ago to CISCO…

Kumara Republic

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 16:07:49 +1300

Wow. Murdoch is screwed. His cash cows will be taken away from him. Might not happen right away, but if this pans out there is no way he can be allowed to retain control.

If the NotW was the entree, then this might be the main course. Definitely industrial espionage.

Russell Brown

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:07 +1300

The pile on from all quarters on Murdoch shows that everyone was just waiting for someone else to make the first move.

This Ray Adams guy certainly kept the memos. All 11,000 of them. The AFR says it's been working on the story for four years — and I suspect…

nzlemming

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:22:20 +1300

Holy shit. I wonder what other dirty deeds are detailed in those emails?

The pile on from all quarters on Murdoch shows that everyone was just waiting for someone else to make the first move.

Aidan

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:32:54 +1300

Murdoch’s whining about piracy is well founded. News was executing pirate attacks against rivals and knew just how damaging they could be.

What a massive bastard. Imagine having him as father. Yuck.

Russell Brown

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:57:32 +1300

This is huge. More evidence they have done the same thing elsewhere, specifically Australia:

Holy shit. I wonder what other dirty deeds are detailed in those emails?

Aidan

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:53:01 +1300

This is huge. More evidence they have done the same thing elsewhere, specifically Australia:

http://www.afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM

Wow. Murdoch is screwed. His cash cows will be taken away from him. Might not happen right away, but if this pans out there is no way he can be allowed to retain control.

Andrew E

Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:42:35 +1300

A minor point: the FT (thankfully) is not a Murdoch rag.

Unlike the poor old WSJ which succumbed to his clutches in the last year or so.

nzlemming

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:28:13 +1300

Needless to say, Mondex never launched in New Zealand and the banks walked away from their investment.

I think that was the response all over the world, actually. The Swindon trial was their first big one, they also had trials in Isreal and Canada. http://www.mondex.org reckons there were reports of…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:37:20 +1300

Ah yes, this one:

AUCKLAND– Mondex International is running a public relations campaign to emphasise positive aspects of its security after acknowledging in a confidential document that customers may not be protected if its electronic cash scheme is “compromised”.

Holders of Mondex smartcards will not be protected by Mondex and…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:29:42 +1300

Ah, Mondex! So much hope, so little delivery.

Aw, you got me going now:

Security expert claims e-cash system fatally flawed

Mondex marketing may mask the issues

Banks reassess Mondex after security doubts

Tbh, they read a bit better than I thought they would. I’ve always thought that with more…

nzlemming

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:47:41 +1300

Ah, Mondex! So much hope, so little delivery. And DigiCash was another. This is one reason I print to PDF web stories if I might want them for the future, so that I still have them when they disappear from their sites. Wayback doesn't gather everything :-(

__ETA and as…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:12:50 +1300

Well as someone who followed the NDS saga quite closely at the time, I have to say the old ‘way back machine’ must have been going hard.

Indeed. Oddly enough, I also paid lots of attention to that sphere back then — a legacy of stories I'd written about the…

James George

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:06:26 +1300

Well as someone who followed the NDS saga quite closely at the time, I have to say the old 'way back machine' must have been going hard. Old links that give detail to the story have gone from anywhere near the top of search engine results, while the barebones which…

Aidan

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:48:39 +1300

I imagine there will be much interest in the evidence NDS gave in their defence against the Echostar lawsuit.

Potential perjury?

While it is probably true that Rupe has plausible deniability with respect to this dirty business, his corporations have demonstrated an alarming habit of using dirty tricks against competitors.

Kumara Republic

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:22:36 +1300

Piracy? More like industrial espionage.

And the prank hacking of The Sun's web page was poetic justice to say the least.

Paul Campbell

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:44:50 +1300

I don't think the issue was copyright – there was a court case in which the pirates (aargh!) argued that the US TV had no commercial value in Canada, and that one could not steal something that had no value, and did not deprive the owner of the item. What…

Richard Grevers

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:39:01 +1300

Any content not available in a Te Reo translation doesn't qualify for copyright.
That would just see a lot of content (or a lot more than present) being denied to NZ. Remember that French is the majority language in a significant part of Canada – the status of Te Reo…

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:25:17 +1300

E* didn't provide the required amount of French language content and therefor was an illegal product in Canada – and legally couldn't be stolen

We should have this in NZ. Any content not available in a Te Reo translation doesn't qualify for copyright.

Ana Simkiss

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:13:21 +1300

From the link on the end of the lawsuit, without comment: "This brings an end to this long drawn-out process in which we vehemently denied all allegations of piracy which were made against us over a decade ago," said Abe Peled, NDS Group executive chairman. "Piracy is an issue throughout…

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:47:09 +1300

They’re all a bit paranoid, very hard to deal with, which is I guess is understandable given the business they’re in, building a relationship to work with them was always hard – and NDS were always the hardest of them all – story was they originally came out of Mossad’s…

Paul Campbell

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:31:06 +1300

I used to work in this part of the industry – integrating crypto into settop boxes for various vendors – I've dealt with all the major crypto vendors, including NDS.

They're all a bit paranoid, very hard to deal with, which is I guess is understandable given the business they're…

Alex Coleman

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:20:03 +1300

Didn't Rupert tweet some pretty strident stuff about pirates?

I guess this would be just about privateering then. Or something.

Robert Fox

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:15:32 +1300

And this at a time when News Corp appear to be going after Cameron. Strange days.

Russell Brown

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:05:11 +1300

And here’s the BBC’s own report on the Panorama programme that screened in the past couple of hours:

Lee Gibling said NDS paid for Thoic’s servers and was across all of its hacking and TV piracy.

“Everything that was in the closed area of Thoic was totally accessed by any…

Public Address

Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:05:11 +1300

Discussion from blog post.