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Sofie Bribiesca

Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:51:53 +1200

Any IDEAS why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ?

Too many Narcissists in the village ?

Paul Williams

Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:47:10 +1200

They're scared.

Agreed.

Any IDEAS why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ?

Brand management. Hooton is a brand and this is business for him. He sells himself to his clients as a having broad credibility and needs desperately to be seen to be…

Kracklite

Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:31:17 +1200

Any IDEAS why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ?

Brand management. Hooton is a brand and this is business for him. He sells himself to his clients as a having broad credibility and needs desperately to be seen to be above all the…

stephen clover

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:59:16 +1200

Any ideas why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ? Has he had a falling-out with some of the Nats and their mates ?

I’d have thought he’d toed the party line, but he’s made repeated calls.

My reading is that there are factions,…

nzlemming

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:36:34 +1200

They're scared.

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:38:27 +1200

It doesn’t get any better after that. Very tacky!

Majorityof the comments are priceless with much support. Some are much better than her twaddle.

Alfie

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:26:32 +1200

Mike Hosking’s characterisation of the Internet-Mana launch is, as you might expect, a work of blithering idiocy from a man who wasn’t there and doesn’t care.
Maybe it's "attack a German day" or something. Fran O'Sullivan is nailing her colours to the mast in [[http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11314895|Can't win at politics with a cheque,…

Sofie Bribiesca

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:03:04 +1200

Lumber Jacket, I want one.

Russell Brown

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:55:02 +1200

I think she’s a terrible choice for their press secretary for any of IMP. They’re going to have some wacky moments with the characters that they’ve got there and the background of the parties and their union.

I’m not so sure. She’s close to many of the candidates, she’s well…

Paul Williams

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:24:44 +1200

I think she's a terrible choice for their press secretary for any of IMP. They're going to have some wacky moments with the characters that they've got there and the background of the parties and their union.

I'm not so sure. She's close to many of the candidates, she's well…

Russell Brown

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:41:20 +1200

Mike Hosking’s characterisation of the Internet-Mana launch is, as you might expect, a work of blithering idiocy from a man who wasn’t there and doesn’t care.

He’s pretty much 100% party talking points at the moment. Incredible.

nzlemming

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:21:51 +1200

Any ideas why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ? Has he had a falling-out with some of the Nats and their mates ?

I’d have thought he’d toed the party line, but he’s made repeated calls.

Possibly, he's smart enough to know she's…

Dismal Soyanz

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:21:14 +1200

I’m not a fan of Hooten’s but my impression from his pieces in NBR and comments on Nat Rad is that he has consistently been critical of Key and Collins. Maybe he believes in our democratic institutions enough to not want them undermined?

Grant McDougall

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:16:18 +1200

Any ideas why Matthew Hooton has been so open in his calls to sack Collins ? Has he had a falling-out with some of the Nats and their mates ?

I'd have thought he'd toed the party line, but he's made repeated calls.

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:42:56 +1200

Purls before swine…
(Gower) He’s grown up quite a bit this year.
Now it can be revealed the secret past that unites the media and the MPs – They seem to all have started off as child Knitting Pattern models!

Top: Katie Bradford and Patrick Gower?
Middle: Peter Dunne (back)?…

Steve Barnes

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:36:44 +1200

Best Quiz name I came across was “Crouching Cider, Hidden Flagon” much more imaginative and original than “Ream Key”
Damn, a typo. Of course I mean "Team Key" I really must get around to fixing that one day.

Joe Wylie

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:28:43 +1200

The quiz master has limited space in his scoring spreadsheet for long names, so he shortened it to “Cameron Slater is Shit” which we were happy with.

A bit like the printed songlist in a Korean karaoke bar, where You Aint Nothin' But a Hound Dog became __You Aint Nothin'…

Kyle Matthews

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:20:26 +1200

The quiz master has limited space in his scoring spreadsheet for long names, so he shortened it to "Cameron Slater is Shit" which we were happy with.

Kyle Matthews

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 00:26:51 +1200

I think if KDC is going to throw meat around at political rallies, he’s got to expect he’ll attract media attention. If he does want the discussion about policy, best not talk about hacking credit rating systems. That said, I still think Corkery’s response was reasonable.

The video showed her…

Russell Brown

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:43:25 +1200

Internet Mana has posted the video of Dotcom's campaign launch speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmBBR4Hd5y4

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:58:58 +1200

Then again, I’ve always thought Gower a bit of a prat and yet his flying visit to Oravida was brilliant stuff…

He's grown up quite a bit this year. As with anything good ,it takes time. He can be pushy but he does get a few wins and in years…

Richard Aston

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:47:56 +1200

I kinda expect to see IMP as a bit contentious too.

Yeah IMP is kinda Impish . I like that too .
When Hone is pissed off he says " I am pissed off" not I am displeased or other polite fluff

Paul Williams

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:27:54 +1200

From the Harold. Pam offered to resign, wasn't accepted

Good outcome I reckon.

Corkery had a moment, she was likely baited, and though I don't entirely agree with her position (on KDC), I suspect her judgment of the individual in question was spot on. Then again, I've always though Gower…

Rob Stowell

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:27:01 +1200

in almost every case the story is written after the material has been shot.
I've worked with one, but only one, journalist who regularly did this. Watching him-or-her coach talent to try to get just the grab he-or-she had pretty much already scripted for was embarrassing.

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:59:15 +1200

From the Harold. Pam offered to resign, wasn't accepted

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:22:26 +1200

Sofie, I don’t agree

I know the media will want his comment and he may have learnt that it's best to say something before he goes home but sometimes (like Corkery) things just go astray and the IMP seem to be on the defence about everything they do so I…

Dismal Soyanz

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:22:02 +1200

Incomprehensible? More like inane.

Trevor Nicholls

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:14:58 +1200

in almost every case the story is written after the material has been shot

That would explain why so many live crosses are virtually incomprehensible, I suppose.

Paul Williams

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:23:34 +1200

That they have speakers seen as part of the launch, yes, but should KDC be the only part of the launch, I think not.It's the media who wants to make it only about him. JMO

Sofie, I don't agree (and appreciate you did understand my less than clear point in…

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:14:03 +1200

but does the media have every reason to seek comment from him.

Did they interview any of the performers or Hone or Sykes or Hone's well known son or.....any one else that got up on stage? Key may be a cult of personality to his minnions but IMP are portraying…

Joe Wylie

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:42:19 +1200

One of Chris Knox's early 90s Max Media strips showed its hungover hero being woken by a wrong number. The hyped-up caller assumes that he's got through to Pam Corkery on Radio Pacific, and makes a ranting plea to the effect of "Pam! Pam! We gotta rise up and stick…

Alfie

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:29:24 +1200

TV news of whatever ilk almost always go to events with the story mostly written. It is the job of the event or interviewee to fill in the blanks. It's usually too expensive to send crews out on spec.
I have to take issue with your comment Tinakori. Having worked…

Paul Williams

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:24:13 +1200

Coming in late here but I admired Pam Corkery for speaking her mind in no uncertain terms. Yeah yeah we are all meant to be professional , well mannered and .. tidy but sometimes you just have to call shit what it is.

Likewise and delivered with the kudos only…

Richard Aston

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:42:52 +1200

nzlemming

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:06:39 +1200

but who knew she was a ‘Yeastie’ as well!

I new she was some kind of infection...

Amanda Wreckonwith

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:35:02 +1200

Eww! Get the girl some yoghurt...

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:30:22 +1200

leaven it up to you...
I see Paula Bennett is capitalising on Collins' fall from grace
They say she is on the rise...
I know she styles herself as a 'Westie'
but who knew she was a 'Yeastie' as well!

Steve Parks

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:57:40 +1200

Giovanni Tiso tweeted:

People who are putting down Pam Corkery have no idea about the tactics used by Internet Parties overseas, do they? Not a clue.

.. and the ensuing conversation was enlightening to say the least.

Given the announcement re Assange, I may have to resile from my 'genuinely…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:38:48 +1200

Also, I could see at a glance she was at her last tether with them and it was a short sharp shove but I thought she pulled up quickly so didn’t think it was too bad. I knew though it was going to get played out immediately. The media watching…

nzlemming

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:52:22 +1200

Danyl, this scanned, to me, like something a Labour Party activist circa 1999 or an Alliance one circa 2002 might have said… Corkery’s no idiot in my experience either.

No, she's not, but (having known her closely for 20+ years) that looked to me like genuine frustration with a pack…

Paul Williams

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 21:49:51 +1200

If Corkery did do that on purpose to get the lead spot on the news then she’s an idiot. National couldn’t have asked for anything better than a reminder to wavering centre voters that the alternative to Key – dirty politics or not – is a government propped up by…

David Hood

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:24:52 +1200

Well, if both Slater and the Labour Party complain to the Police about hacking it will be interesting to see how each case is dealt with, as it seems to me there are obvious persons of interest in the Labour Party hack.

Alfie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:44:16 +1200

Would this be the police who serve the NZ public, or the pleece who serve on Planet Key?
Would this be the pleece who serve on Planet Key, or the government spy agencies who serve on Planet Key?

Trevor Nicholls

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:02:43 +1200

My sweepstake bet would be within three weeks the police will have a pretty narrow list of suspects

Would this be the police who serve the NZ public, or the pleece who serve on Planet Key?

stephen clover

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:59:22 +1200

Matthew I suggest you listen to Kim Dotcom on Morning Report this morning pronto so you can stop spouting such oddities as hacking into Helmut Kohl’s IT

(hint: it involves the German credit rating system SCHUFA :-)

David Hood

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:48:22 +1200

The Fairfax profile of the hacker really does not sound like KDC, but given the hacker is giving away information about why he is doing it, and posting orginal things aside from only what was obtained from Whaleoil's site, My sweepstake bet would be within three weeks the police will…

Tinakori

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:18:27 +1200

tussock

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:18:13 +1200

National couldn't have asked for anything better than a reminder to wavering centre voters that the alternative to Key – dirty politics or not – is a government propped up by a bunch of nutty, angry activists.

As against the ACT party? Who've discovered all science is wrong.
The Conservatives?…

Steve Barnes

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:17:04 +1200

Keep on trucking…:-)

Mother Truckers...

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:11:12 +1200

infrastructure infra dig...
This is quality of the roads we have to put up with,
these roads cost lives.

Roads of National Impotence

Roads of Notional Importance

Keep on trucking...
:- )

Alex Coleman

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:04:08 +1200

hacking into Helmut Kohl’s IT

What does that mean?

Steve Barnes

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:58:43 +1200

Front page of Herald today...
Dotcom: I had no idea Liu had any problems
They seem to be pushing this story, guy invests in Mega, guy gets busted for alleged money laundering. This is one of the charges .com is facing himself , allegedly, and is basically a meaningless…

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:24:35 +1200

outlandish

and what would count as that, pray tell?

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:23:31 +1200

To repeat what I said upthread, TV3 at least went into the meeting pursuing hacking as their angle. BEFORE Dotcom’s speech. And what do you know, that’s the only one they pursued all the way to the screen.

Bart Janssen

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:41:31 +1200

For the last six years, Slater managed to turn himself into a dealer for willing newsroom junkies.

Glove puppets perhaps?

Tom Semmens

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:32:49 +1200

Wow, just wow.

David Fisher recounts his journey into and out of addiction. The level of influence Cameron Slater has clearly come to have on a huge section of our MSM is scandal in itself, regardless of the Hager emails.

For the last six years, Slater managed to turn himself into…

Matthew Hooton

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:25:01 +1200

It was news to me. I had never heard the story about him hacking into Helmut Kohl's IT to reduce his personal credit rating. The fact Dotcom may have said it all around the country at Internet-Mana meetings doesn't mean it is not news when he says it at his…

nzlemming

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:48:40 +1200

Hosking's interview with Laila Harre is amazing.

I'm starting to think Wells does a better Hosking than Hosking.

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:45:09 +1200

For sure. Wouldn’t think we’d need to explain MMP to a German (especially after Russel Norman already tried).

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:41:35 +1200

the facts do not back them up so far

Don't be ridiculous. There's a whole book of them.

Keir Leslie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:38:29 +1200

It's kinda counterproductive if you're KDC and want to change the government at the upcoming election though.

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:35:29 +1200

that programme sounds great.

ChrisW

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:25:50 +1200

Greymouth Star to the rescue. In its report of the initial reaction to WhaleOil’s ‘Feral dies in Greymouth, did world a favour’, it explained carefully –
The ‘feral West Coasters’ label has been around since 2000, when former Prime Minister Helen Clark was speaking on National Radio at the height…

Moz

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:16:49 +1200

More to the point, as I recall, she said it out loud. Not one of her finest moments.

It was a very WTF Helen moment.

To me, part of the point was that a lot of people were shocked that she'd say something like that. Whereas with certain other politicians…

Alex Coleman

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:15:24 +1200

Well, she said some coasters can be a bit feral, which still wasn't her finest moment, but the 'inbred' part seems to be a right wing blog based fabrication.

Keir Leslie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:07:38 +1200

I suspect Internet /Mana don't care if they scare moderate voters away from Labour, as long as they increase their own vote. (Or, rather, I suspect that all the incentives run that way, and I suspect the party acts as if that's true, even if the lead actors may consciously…

James George

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:44:28 +1200

Imagine a situation where employers could routinely hire call center workers for below minimum wage on short term contracts to "fulfill a need", for example. It would be sold to the public as " giving new workers experience" even though call center experience is not particularly useful to workers, and…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:38:14 +1200

Where are the leaks of Miss Clark’s emails calling West Coast voters ” Inbred ferals”

I suspect they exist only in the fevered imaginations of right wing trolls.

More to the point, as I recall, she said it out loud. Not one of her finest moments.

Alfie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:07:12 +1200

Hosking makes my skin crawl, I can't bring myself to listen to him.
+1 to that!

Stephen Judd

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:04:43 +1200

I think the Left should think about whose private stuff ends up in public before playing the dirty politics card

The issue is the public interest in the contents of the emails. No one is saying open season on private comms. It is the subject matter of the communications that…

Andre Alessi

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:02:13 +1200

When did IMP suggest hiring for below minimum wage?

They didn't. However, it's implicit in the policy:

$1.1 billion will be used to create shorter term jobs (3-18 months’ duration) and to administer the programmes. The remaining $200 million per year will be available for longer term grants to create…

Moz

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:54:00 +1200

Where are the leaks of Miss Clark's emails calling West Coast voters " Inbred ferals"

I suspect they exist only in the fevered imaginations of right wing trolls.

or from the present Labour Leader to his favourite lawyer?

Yeah, hevean forfend a party leader actually talk to a lawyer about…

Moz

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:50:02 +1200

I keep expecting Te Kupu to pop up and give us a round of Whakakotahi or Tangata Whenua (Whakakotahi doesn't seem to be on youtube). Just, you know, while we're talking about capturing the "older activist" market.

Like SimonG above, I'm starting to wonder who the minor parties have further…

A S

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:26:15 +1200

I don't think looking at this through a left/right lens helps at all. Integrity should be a basic minimum required from all elected representatives.

All sides should be scrutinised, and where behaviour like that exposed thus far is found, it should be exposed, vilified and sanctioned.

It is particularly troubling…

Raymond A Francis

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:04:06 +1200

Well if that is true Sofie
Where are the leaks of Miss Clark's emails calling West Coast voters " Inbred ferals" or from the present Labour Leader to his favourite lawyer?

I think the Left should think about whose private stuff ends up in public before playing the dirty politics…

Rich Lock

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:03:34 +1200

Imagine a situation where employers could routinely hire call center workers for below minimum wage on short term contracts to “fulfill a need”, for example. It would be sold to the public as ” giving new workers experience” even though call center experience is not particularly useful to workers, and…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:02:48 +1200

Well, as we now know private emails can be hacked

No, that’s still a crime.

and revealed if it is in the “public interest”

Yes. That’s well established by legal precedent. Most leaks could be construed as theft of one kind or another, but if they reveal things it is…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:57:24 +1200

Did Dotcom ever add the bit about “and we all know there’s another PM I don’t like” in his other IMP speeches?

I'm not sure if he said it exactly the same way in the other speeches, but he has made his dislike for Key known in most speeches. He…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:50:33 +1200

Well, as we now know private emails can be hacked and revealed if it is in the “public interest” especially if they are Right wing ones

It's not especially right wing! The Govt does it when ever they like. They are called the GCSB

Bart Janssen

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:48:55 +1200

Corkery called them “glove puppets for Cameron Slater” because she was pissed off about them fixating on the “Dotcom was the hacker” misdirection.

And despite her lack of er professional composure I can't really say she is wrong.

What pissed me off the most about the reporting was the self-righteous…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:48:13 +1200

Did Dotcom ever add the bit about “and we all know there’s another PM I don’t like” in his other IMP speeches?

He has made that quite clear. I'll say it too now .I don't like John Key one little bit. None of him or his smug boat ad either.

Raymond A Francis

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:46:12 +1200

Well, as we now know private emails can be hacked and revealed if it is in the "public interest" especially if they are Right wing ones though I note Russell to his credit was unhappy with the release of stuff about Slater's mother

But imagine the uproar if emails from…

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:45:35 +1200

I suspect and this is only a guess but Hone has seen a need up North to give the unemployed youth some direction and speaking to other parents up there ,the idea that their kids could do something, anything once they leave school, is good for them to…

Bill Patterson

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:41:23 +1200

Did Dotcom ever add the bit about "and we all know there's another PM I don't like" in his other IMP speeches?

Sofie Bribiesca

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:39:31 +1200

When did IMP suggest hiring for below minimum wage?

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:32:45 +1200

""Breaking News: Richie McCaw just texted and said
'Yes, you can'," he said with a roar."

One wonders what the question was that Key asked Richie?
Maybe something like – "Richie, can I mention your name at my party's campaign launch?

or maybe something deeper like:
"Richie, If I'm…

Andre Alessi

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:32:28 +1200

That;s a bit strawman isn't it? There are many other alternatives – reminds me of a scheme I once co-ordinated which was all about getting the huge stack of unemployed artist registration cards 'off the books'...

I don't have a problem with the kind of scheme you describe, as long…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:24:13 +1200

Interesting, on the Left we have people joining dots every which way
But when Dot Com gets up on the stage and admits he hacked the German PM and hates NZ’’s PM that’s not news because Russell knows DC is not the hacker

No, it's not news because it's __not…

Rich of Observationz

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:20:13 +1200

Suggesting Dotcom is @whaledump is libellous, I reckon, unless one happens to have beyond-reasonable-doubt evidence. The Lange defence doesn't apply to a direct factual accusation of criminal conduct.

I suspect a number of media sources will be hearing from m'learned friends.

A S

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:18:02 +1200

I suspect the reason that it isn't a story, is more to do with the fact that KDC's history has been widely reported in the MSM, and his dislike of the PM has been similarly well covered.

The conclusions Pam reached weren't exactly earth shattering re the MSM, particularly in…

Joe Wylie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:17:18 +1200

We do it all the time.
Sounds like some kind of of twelve-step program for lockstep liberals.

Bruce Buckman

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:06:53 +1200

It is also entirely logical politically in an election campaign. Seriously, what else is David or anyone else in National's camp going to do but attempt to capitalise on the situation? John Key has said many many things less stupid than what Dotcom said yesterday and the left has attempted…

Raymond A Francis

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:05:07 +1200

Interesting, on the Left we have people joining dots every which way
But when Dot Com gets up on the stage and admits he hacked the German PM and hates NZ''s PM that's not news because Russell knows DC is not the hacker
And interestingly Pam's rant seems to indicate…

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:55:53 +1200

The graphics mob undertook projects for other community organisations who wouldn’t otherwise have been able to...
This is all good stuff, and stuff that needs to be done cyclically – but always seems to be done sporadically and then left fallow until someone realises it isn't happening and should be…

Bruce Buckman

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:49:36 +1200

Firstly I don't believe any of the Dotcom is Whaledump rubbish. It's wish fulfillment because it would make a good story and that (without criticism) is what motivates a journalist. I also want the election to get back on track and away from Dirty Politics because its sucking all the…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:49:08 +1200

And the least inevitable thing ever: David Farrar has a post on Kiwiblog headed Dotcom boasts of hacking a PM and refuses comment.

I don't think Farrar seriously believes Dotcom is Whaledump. It's just more wholly disingenuous misdirecting.

James George

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:45:28 +1200

Tom Semmens

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:40:11 +1200

Hosking’s interview with Laila Harre is amazing.

Hosking makes my skin crawl, I can't bring myself to listen to him.

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:29:32 +1200

This gets into the same economic issues as prisoner work schemes: either people are made to work in extremely low value jobs, or they compete with employers who have to pay much higher wages.

There was another part in Dotcom's speech where he said something about a "monitoring system for…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:26:56 +1200

Hosking’s interview with Laila Harre is amazing. He declares that Dotcom “admitted yesterday to criminal activity”, construes the speech as a “threat” to John Key, completely fails to read a later Dotcom text (Pam was “screaming at her ex”) as a joke, etc.

Andre Alessi

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:02:00 +1200

I'm confused by IMP's "Right to Work" policy. There's a few good bits in there (especially the varying sizes of the R&D and innovation grants) but the name alone is a massive red flag, and:

The aim is to fill gaps where the market is not able to create and fund…

simon g

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:46:35 +1200

Every 3 years there's a repeated ritual in NZ elections: the minor party lists are ignored before polling day, and then afterwards the media are all amazed to discover that Larry Baldock or David Garrett or Brendan Horan is now an MP.

Given the events of recent days, I reckon…

Russell Brown

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:44:24 +1200

If Corkery did do that on purpose to get the lead spot on the news then she's an idiot.

She didn't.

Ian Dalziel

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:41:39 +1200

I do think he could have left out John Key altogether.
At least he is honest, if he wasn't saying it out loud it would still be tacitly understood and known as a major motivation for Dotcom's tilt at Parliament...
(even if it does look petty and risk getting in…

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:31:55 +1200

Getting into the spirit of things, Kim Dotcom tweets:

Pam's office was unwise. Pam is on her final final final warning. Pam did NOT insult journalists. She was talking to her ex. #KeyStyleSpin

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:25:53 +1200

Alex Coleman tweets:

Leading journos find out KDC was a teenage hacker. Don't nobody tell them Key was a total banker, we'll never hear the end of it

Joe Wylie

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:14:28 +1200

scaring centre voters scared of IM
That's the kind of strategic concern that seems to fuel the tut-tutting over Corkery's lack of decorum. Then again, Sabin was playing to the imagined perceptions of Mr & Mrs Whitebread by attempting to link Dotcom to Whaledump. Post Dirty Politics it's hard to see…

Danyl Mclauchlan

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:14:13 +1200

If Corkery did do that on purpose to get the lead spot on the news then she's an idiot. National couldn't have asked for anything better than a reminder to wavering centre voters that the alternative to Key – dirty politics or not – is a government propped up by…

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:07:57 +1200

The people it put off generally wouldn't be potential I/M voters anyway

Correct, However, the damage might include scaring centre voters scared of IM having a place at a Labour-led table into the arms of the 'reliable' Nats – of course they're in turn encumbered by nutjobs like Act but…

Sacha

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:02:25 +1200

the evening news angle

I saw the 3 news version live and it infuriated me that Brook Sabin (presumably with the blessing of his producer) had decided the story was about hacking before the meeting even started. That was the nature of the questions as Dotcom entered the hall. To…

Bill Patterson

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:56:00 +1200

If Pam Corkery had had the same outburst, but Dotcom had never made the hacking reference, it probably wouldn't have led the news, would it? I wasn't actually aware Parkin was suggesting Dotcom was whaledump yesterday, and when I saw people talking about Pam Corkery lashing out at the press,…

Tim Darlington

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:47:23 +1200

The job of press secretary is one of composure, even if it seems the journalists are being annoying or even malicious in their angles. Anger, be it necessary, should be left for when cameras are not rolling, mics are not live and people are not listening.

True, but I'm not…

Deborah

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:37:26 +1200

The outburst by Pam Corkery acheived the objective of getting the National Party launch out of the top spot on the news. I've been wondering whether it was a deliberate spoiling tactic. Or maybe all that happened was that Mr Dotcom or some other seniopr person in IMP asked Ms…

Myles Thomas

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:20:38 +1200

I know I sound like a broken record but this is a result of commercial news media. For comparison see a non commercial version – no mention of Corkery going apeshit or Hacker Dotcom.

Hebe

Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:01:40 +1200

Pam Corkery looked like she genuinely went off. But I don't see that she or Kim Dotcom will be unhappy at the way it has played out.

A lot of reporting — and news editing and sub-editing — is still trying to fit an MMP election (and the most feral…

stephen clover

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 23:15:42 +1200

Giovanni Tiso tweeted: People who are putting down Pam Corkery have no idea about the tactics used by Internet Parties overseas, do they? Not a clue.

.. and the ensuing conversation was enlightening to say the least.

SteveH

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 23:12:38 +1200

It’s the same as can be seen in the winky face I-wonder-who-hacked-Whaleoil message he allegedly sent to Wayne Tempero. Even if it’s not true, he seems to like creating an inference.

He may like keep the inference going, I suspect as much because it makes Key and Slater look like…

Matt Crawford

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 23:10:44 +1200

Sorry for the snark there, I'm sure poor MP doesn't deserve it put quite so meanly. And I know journalists and newsrooms do often try their best.

It was just a head-deskingly awful moment of galling idiocy, and that was before Corko went batshit (dear god wtf was she thinking)

Matt Crawford

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 23:06:39 +1200

Given the denials already on the record, and the complete lack of any evidence except for a furiously spinning National Party, repeatedly demanding to ask "are you whaledump?" made Parkin look embarrassingly stupid.

Please TV journalists and producers, go do some research. Go google anonymous, find out more about lulzsec.…

Russell Brown

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:51:32 +1200

Do you think it’s unreasonable for someone to assume that maybe KDC enjoys making ambiguous statements – effectively “I hacked the German Chancellor because I didn’t like him… I don’t like John Key either”.

I guess so, but it wasn’t really how it came across in the hall. Maybe I…

Damian Christie

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:42:38 +1200

Do you think it's unreasonable for someone to assume that maybe KDC enjoys making ambiguous statements – effectively "I hacked the German Chancellor because I didn't like him... I don't like John Key either". It's the same as can be seen in the winky face I-wonder-who-hacked-Whaleoil message he allegedly sent…

Public Address

Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:42:38 +1200

Discussion from blog post.