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David Chittenden

Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:53:16 +1200

It seems holo-worlders are taking things into their own hands ... http://i.imgur.com/rZhSV.png

Tim Michie

Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:25:35 +1200

http://nationalpost.tumblr.com/post/21283363310/nparts-good-news-number-two-one-tupacs

Craig Ranapia

Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:08:27 +1200

There's a lot of CG in current films and TV; you spot the bad stuff, sure, but I guarantee you that there's a lot that goes unnoticed.

Quite – but that's often things that aren't really foregrounded. A surprisingly large amount of CGI work on The Hunger Games involved digitally…

3410

Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:10:52 +1200

this form of Turing test is already happening.

Absolutely. An interesting example on the 6 o'clock news the other night: A reporter was addressing the camera. In the background, a large ship was steaming into port. I suddenly thought "Holy shit! That ship is going too fast; it's going to…

JackElder

Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:57:16 +1200

It seems to me that we aren't far off photo-realistic CGI (I'd suggest something like a Turing Test – can watchers differentiate between a filmed scene with actors and the same scene created with CGI)

I'm just surprised that you don't think that this form of Turing test is already…

Sacha

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:12:10 +1200

spectacular

verily

Sacha

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:11:49 +1200

allegedly used to create those phone calls from passengers on the 9/11 jets

pray, continue (or Mr Dentith)

DexterX

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:33:42 +1200

I see you got to it first – but I can go one step weirder,

At 3.18 John Key makes an appearance – dig the hipster in the tie with the swinging moves man, the questions I pose are, “Is that a wig, does he have a time machine and…

DexterX

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:12:28 +1200

Tupac Hurly Burly – much rather see this take place:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/olympics-organizers-ask-keith-moon-to-play-closing-ceremony-20120413

Greg Wood

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:40:17 +1200

Amazing, but unsettling: the uncanny valley of a real person not being there, in so many ways. That said, the spectacle, the technology and the performance came together to make a pretty impressive experience, hence the outpouring.

William Gibson's prescience (pre-science, yep) in his early work is similarly spectacular and…

Joe Wylie

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:53:44 +1200

Tupacrophilia
Precisely. Dug up & dry-humped.

It's good news week
Someone's found a way to give
The rotting dead a will to live
Go on and never die

Russell Brown

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:49:02 +1200

Tupac's voice could've easily been done with voice morphing technology similar to that allegedly used to create those phone calls from passengers on the 9/11 jets.

Intriguing!

Greg Akehurst

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:34:17 +1200

You may wish to take the opportunity to encourage your government to get its head out of its ass on this matter.

Given that "best in business" lobbyist Tony O'Brien from Sky TV has swipe card access to Parliament, I don't hold out much hope of any change to the…

Stupid

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:28:08 +1200

Tupac's voice could've easily been done with voice morphing technology similar to that allegedly used to create those phone calls from passengers on the 9/11 jets.

BlairMacca

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:18:02 +1200

Obviously the Olympics organisers are planning something bigger than holograms
http://www.avclub.com/articles/keith-moon-refuses-to-play-london-olympics-closing,72434/

Sacha

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:33:16 +1200

"the future's already here, it's just unevenly distributed."

like faster broadband..

Kumara Republic

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 10:15:19 +1200

Gibbo's writing is looking more and more onto it by the day.

And Gibson had a point when we said that "the future's already here, it's just unevenly distributed."

The speed is pretty good too. We were considering getting subscribing to Sky, which worked out to be the same price,…

Craig Ranapia

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 07:51:41 +1200

Tupacrophilia – when is Holopac going to get a celebrity zombie cameo in The Walking Dead?

Cam Carpenter

Wed, 18 Apr 2012 00:30:18 +1200

Hit Em' Up! I'm flatting in Dunedin – we're paying $60 per month for unlimited internet. Split between my six flat-mates it works out to be just over $2.00 per-week for unlimited content. The speed is pretty good too. We were considering getting subscribing to Sky, which worked out to…

Sacha

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:26:25 +1200

Elvis has already re-entered the building, apparently.

Of course, it is markedly eerier when such technology is used to bring artists such as Tupac back from the grave. For his 50th birthday party, Simon Cowell hired Musion to create a hologram of his (deceased) hero, Frank Sinatra, singing Pennies From…

Marcus Turner

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:55:18 +1200

Bob Marley duetting with Elvis?

You've unlocked the box, Russell...

Sacha

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:25:25 +1200

Gibbo's writing is looking more and more onto it by the day

Has he been wrong about anything so far? Coolhunter extraordinaire.

Mike Kmiec

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 13:16:40 +1200

Strictly speaking, HoloPac is a misnomer – it should be Pepper'sPac.

But even that's not really correct, as the Pepper's Ghost effect was created by Henry Dircks in 1862. Dircks couldn't find a way to sell the idea to theatres, as it was incredibly costly to rebuild performance venues with…

Peter Darlington

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 12:06:40 +1200

Trundling off to re-read my copy of William Gibson's Idoru...

With news like this...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/series/battle-for-the-internet

Gibbo's writing is looking more and more onto it by the day.

Jolisa

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:46:22 +1200

Trundling off to re-read my copy of William Gibson's Idoru...

Don't look at the idoru's face. She is not flesh; she is information. She is the tip of an iceberg, no, an Antarctica of information. Looking at her face would trigger it again: she was some unthinkable volume of information.…

Joe Wylie

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:33:10 +1200

It's been a whole twelve years since reviewers gushed over the CGI of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within as heralding the dawn of digital actors replacing the real thing ("Why only the other week I was enthusing about the princess in Shrek"). Yet FF dropped from sight into some kind…

Sacha

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:28:39 +1200

depection is a cunning CGI technique for reducing muscle definition #sixpac

Naly D

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:23:45 +1200

if I’m not mistaken, Miku came out in 2007 right? Along with the holo performance on MTV Russell is referencing, the Gorillaz did one at the 2006 Grammys w Madonna

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_gnMOom7kE

Russell Brown

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:21:52 +1200

Yeah, but you could have made a cartoon band in 1928 using hand-drawn animation and projected it at an award show.

I think having a reference is a harder test.

True. I suspect we're also some way off capturing and transmitting live action.

Russell Brown

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:20:22 +1200

er, should be – apparition (in a coupla places...)

Gah. And in the first paragraph too ...

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:19:53 +1200

Yeah, but you could have made a cartoon band in 1928 using hand-drawn animation and projected it at an award show.

I think having a reference is a harder test.

(Incidentally, I saw the movie 'The Ghost' the other day and they seemed to be using (bad) CGI for B-reel…

Ian Dalziel

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:15:27 +1200

The Holo Men spell check...
Tupac’s apparation
er, should be – apparition (in a coupla places...)
but right later on....
unless maybe he was more an apparatus
or apparatchik...

difficult to depect
er, should be – depict

Hadyn Green

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:12:47 +1200

Hatsune Miku was the OG holographic popstar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI

What bugs me about the idea of the holographic performance is the interaction between performer and audience. "Put your muthafuckin hands up!" "Let me hear you say..." etc will look and feel a little silly coming from a figure you know can't…

Yamis

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:08:53 +1200

Review of the first 3 days of the festival from someone on the ground who saw the holoshizzle live.

And ATDI!! lucky %%&&%^$!!!

http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/47770/coachella-2012-three-days-and-three-nights-of-unicorn-mating-dances-hip-holograms-and-satisfying-cash-grab-reunions

Russell Brown

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:06:34 +1200

Then it’ll get cheaper, so maybe in 20 years we’ll have desktop photo-realistic CGI – just make storyboards and the computer will do the rest. With a library of the world’s living and dead actors.

Or people who have never lived. The first big-stage trial of this technology was the…

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:51:14 +1200

Then it'll get cheaper, so maybe in 20 years we'll have desktop photo-realistic CGI -…

Public Address

Tue, 17 Apr 2012 10:51:14 +1200

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