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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote>What bothers me is there isn't an Auckland Star to bring another POV to the citizen. The news media is quick to arrogate to itself the privileges of their freedoms, but it seems they are seldom interested in their responsibilities in the modern democratic state, which I doubt can actually…</blockquote>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, I'm confident the decision wasn't about driver reluctance to go an extra 3kms as Roughan swallowed.</p></blockquote><p>Yup that's not likely to be the only factor. It might be a contributing factor though.</p><blockquote><p>Either way are about the same overall distance, especially if you are going west along the motorway…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p>Paul (and anyone else)<br />I don't have a big dislike for the Australian (bit of jest earlier). I must however mention after living there for 11 years + I did find more and more that the "she'll be right attitude" of so many of my friends and colleagues was wearing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:05:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That Invalids' Benefit thing cuts very close to home for my family</p></blockquote><p>Seriously. If they try to make a certain member of my family work any more than the part-time job he has, we may as well kiss his hard-won ten-year sobriety goodbye. He just couldn't mentally handle full time…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Which ones would the government order should be handed over to a trust? How do you define a "news magazine"? Will we have a special government panel that defines what "news" is? Will the government then decree how editorial websites may operate?</p></blockquote><p>The idea I've been mulling around would be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:03:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>dubmugga:</p><p>I know I'd get a full body poo facial if I cross-posted this on Kiwibog and The Sub-Standard, but yeah... we have one party (Labour) that's slightly left of centre, and another (National) that's slightly right of centre.  And even the Greens and ACT aren't as extreme as the…</p>
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				<title>dubmugga</title>
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						if you squint hard enough you cant even tell the difference between key and goff. policies be damned, image is everything. hopefully they're grooming another helen in the wings except hopefully  hotter, taller and with nicer teeth. gotta make key seem like a bully beating up on a vulnerable woman…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:40:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						That Invalids' Benefit thing cuts very close to home for my family, and I'm all the more furious because of it. My younger brother is legally blind &ndash; qualifies for a cane, member of the Blind Foundation, etc &ndash; but is actually partially-sighted. It's very partial, to be sure, but…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:39:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You can't have that many fuck-ups so early in your term of government. These aren't peripheral issues, they're core.</p></blockquote><p>If so, perhaps Labour could come up with a serious response.  I probably shouldn't be giving the evil ones free advice :), but Goff could do us all a favour if…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not entirely sure what would be better about going via Rosebank.</p></blockquote><p>I'd defer to Joshua about cost being the issue, and I really don't know the detail. </p><p>However, I'm confident the decision wasn't about driver reluctance to go an extra 3kms as Roughan swallowed.  Either way are about the…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I'm not entirely sure what would be <em>better</em>  about going via Rosebank. It would be longer, which would involve killing more suburbs, for the purpose of making a more expensive piece of road that would waste more gas for more people. The cost of that gas (not to mention wasted…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:40:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And yet, these have yet to make a real impact on public opinion.</p><p>Even a basic rights issue like workplace breaks being rolled back doesn't seem to have found any purchase &mdash; listening to Helen Kelly of the CTU try and explain the issue to Jim Mora and Graham Bell…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:28:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Horseshit. He's just punching time until the bell goes off for the first round.</p></blockquote><p>Perhaps Public Address' next publishing extravaganza could be an complimentary A1 sized poster for every politician and journalist's office wall:</p><p><strong>THIS IS NOT A GAME</strong></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have a problem with<br />this</p></blockquote><p>IdiotSavant shares your <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2009/11/sadism.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">disgust</a>.</p><blockquote><p>The benefit is, as you would expect from its name, for invalids &ndash; people unable to work due to ongoing sickness, injury, or disability. Its paid to terminal cancer patients, people with no limbs, and the totally blind. Work-testing these…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:56:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Brickley Paiste</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This is, I think, to understate Key's and National's polling margin.</p></blockquote><p>Most people know nothing about public policy.  Therefore, most people that answer polling questions are not sufficiently informed to have a considered opinion.  So who fucking cares what the polls say.  Most people vote for the party they think…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:27:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Labour just need to be patient and wait it out, simple as that. Sooner or later, the public will tire of National, some Nat MP will make a big, unpalatable boo-boo, but who knows when.</p></blockquote><p>I suspect that unless Labour provides us with an alternative vision, "sooner or later" might…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:08:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Keeping with the theme. So now the dear leader thinks travel perks are acceptable for the old skool politicians. I say relocate like the rest of us if it causes so much strife with your relationships.As an example , Rodney Hide stinks. He had no problem forgoing one relationship for…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:02:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						It's a great lil' building, and it's all "look ma no hands" :)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:09:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You gotta problem with that?</p></blockquote><p>Slightly OT but what the hey! I have a problem with<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10606698" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> and yep Aussies suck. :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:05:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						You Aucklanders and your car fetishes. I see there's a new "eco-building" opened in K Rd. Main feature: <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10606661" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">higher density car parking</a>.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:53:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you saying the Aussies suck?</p></blockquote><p>Like a Dyson 10000 Turbo XL running on three-phase. You gotta problem with that?</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As Albert Eienstein put it, Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen</p></blockquote><p>Or alternatively in bumper sticker form: <em>common sense is neither</em></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Are you saying the Aussies suck? :)
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Only if your trusts have a new way of making their income. Staffing decline is a response to pressure on the whole business model.</p></blockquote><p>Hastened, it must be said, by the big sucking noise coming from across the Tasman. The local Fairfax papers have done more than their share to…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>I believe the media is to important to be left to the market. Strong reform of media governance laws &ndash; in particular in relation to ownership models (would it be a good idea to legally require all newspapers and news magazines published in N.Z. to be owned by not-for-profit trusts…</blockquote>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You really think that is even possible in New Zealand?</p></blockquote><p>Well, you could get elected on a centrist platform, appoint Keith Locke as minister of broadcasting then be forced to intervene to stop his plan of complete state control of the media...</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Only if your trusts have a new way of making their income. Staffing decline is a response to pressure on the whole business model.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I guess it depends what you mean by <a href="http://business.scoop.co.nz/2009/08/21/apn-news-first-half-profit-tumbles-53-on-ad-sales/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">pressure</a> on the business model. A not for profit NZHerald could have employed 200 journalists at 100k…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>would go a long way to naturally re-populating our newsrooms with actual journalists.</p></blockquote><p>Only if your trusts have a new way of making their income. Staffing decline is a response to pressure on the whole business model.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote>Strong reform of media governance laws &ndash; in particular in relation to ownership models (would it be a good idea to legally require all newspapers and news magazines published in N.Z. to be owned by not-for-profit trusts and the like?), in relation to forbidding foreign (read rent-extracting Australians and Canadians)…</blockquote>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						I mean, possible with the current bunch.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Strong reform of media governance laws</p></blockquote><p>You really think that is even possible in New Zealand?</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Are you in favour of a change to the system at all, Tom?</p></blockquote><p>I would like to see the threshold lowered to 4%.</p><p>But politicians respond to what gets them votes. We are going down the British route of the surveillance state of CCTV and DNA databases because we've got…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You'd think that the concept of the right to a break being taken away, including the right to a toilet break, would be pretty simple to understand. I can't see what's complicated.</p></blockquote><p>They seemed to think that there was a problem with the government "stepping in and regulating" these things,…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>This isn't to say that the Labour Party itself is in a bad way &mdash; it isn't. A number of long-term activists have given it a rest, but I get the impression that things are quite lively at the grassroots.</p></blockquote><p>Not necessarily a good thing.  The grassroots level of the…</p>
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				<title>Steve Parks</title>
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						<blockquote><p>MMP is a great system for increasing diversity and making sure everyones vote counts. But it sucks when it comes to elections, because it has reduced them to Cadbury's vs. Whittakers.</p></blockquote><p>Are you in favour of a change to the system at all, Tom?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I agree with you about the RWC. Major sports events are a bad news magnet (see many Olympics passim): stories of unfinished construction will be a media staple for the next 2 years.</p></blockquote><p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_%28Montreal%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Big Owe</a>, anybody?</p>
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				<title>Steve Withers</title>
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						<p>John Key seems to be the velvet glove on the iron fist of neo-liberal fanaticism that drives many of the senior ministers in Key's cabinet. </p><p>The number of times Key has had to overturn or modify the intentions of his ministers is most interesting. I know people in the public…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You may recognise the logo, even if you haven't heard it referred to that way before.</p></blockquote><p>If only spaghetti junction was as simple as the logo.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>listening to Helen Kelly of the CTU try and explain the issue to Jim Mora and Graham Bell on The Panel last week was painful. Neither of them seemed to grasp what she was talking about.</p></blockquote><p>You'd think that the concept of the right to a break being taken away,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He's wedged on the ETS, he's left Smith to make a mess of ACC, Tolley's exposed in education...</p></blockquote><p>And yet, these have yet to make a real impact on public opinion.</p><p>Even a basic rights issue like workplace breaks being rolled back doesn't seem to have found any purchase --…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As for Goff, I'm less worried. I really think it is irrelevant what the polls say this year or the next. New Zealand voters have at best a 12 month memory and mostly closer to 6 months.</p></blockquote><p>It all depends on if they are getting sound advice. It may be…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Matthew, I would bet my house and several limbs that there will be an early election, pre-World Cup.</p></blockquote><p>Possibly, yes. But National are then stuck with putting it closer to a Budget that is likely to contain unpalatable truths, and also to a change-over in ACC that will have Labour…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>We have a President.</p></blockquote><p>No we don't &ndash; we've got a brand. John Key is a creature of MMP. Under MMP it's the party vote that counts and so MMP is all about the nation-wide campaign. In a nation wide campaign a presidential style leader is central to what is…</p>
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						<blockquote>As for Goff, I'm less worried. I really think it is irrelevant what the polls say this year or the next. New Zealand voters have at best a 12 month memory and mostly closer to 6 months. There is no point in trying to win over voters now and Labour…</blockquote>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>motorway was once gazetted from the CBD to Mangere Bridge running somewhere to the east of Dominion Road. Let action-man Mr Joyce and his friends in the trucking lobby get to think resurrecting that is a good idea and you could be toast.</p></blockquote><p>No, my present residence is still safe…</p>
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				<title>Joshua Arbury</title>
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						<p>I think the main reason the Rosebank alignment of SH20 was abandoned was because it had an estimated cost of around $3 billion, even more than the fully tunnelled version of Waterview. Plus, building a giant interchange on Pollen Island would have been pretty nasty from an environmental perspective.</p><p>I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:42:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>My perspective on Key's performance is limited by being on the other side of the Tasman. Still, I can see his appeal though I don't think it'll endure. </p><p>He's anything but insensible, but pulling out pragmatic solutions to solve Ministerial bungles is not the same as anticipating problems. Nor is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:37:04 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I would bet ...several limbs...</p></blockquote><p>Afghan or kiwi?</p>
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<p>Regarding Labour and Goff still being low in the polls, well, that's just how things go. National was low for years after Clark was elected, Labour was low for the first year of Bolger, National was low for Lange's first term. </p><p>Labour just need to be patient and wait it…</p>
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				<title>Aquila G</title>
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						<p>CMJ is what Transit calls the Central Motorway Junction project, better known as spaghetti junction</p><p><a href="http://cmi.transit.govt.nz/html/cmj/home.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://cmi.transit.govt.nz/html/cmj/home.htm</a></p><p>It's got at least a seven year history of being referred to as that in all advertising of closures, lane changes and works being done. You may recognise the logo, even if you haven't…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The RWC is shaping up to be a total shambles.</p></blockquote><p>Matthew, I would bet my house and several limbs that there will be an early election, pre-World Cup. If the polls are good for National, then like Clark in 2002, Key will want to cash in (usual line: "media speculation…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote>As for Goff, I'm less worried. I really think it is irrelevant what the polls say this year or the next. New Zealand voters have at best a 12 month memory and mostly closer to 6 months. There is no point in trying to win over voters now and Labour…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>he's very good.</p></blockquote><p>Funniest thing I've read this month. zere standards are dvopping Colonel.</p><blockquote><p>But it was soon very clear that western capitalism, too, deprived of its old adversary and imagining itself the undisputed victor and incarnation of global progress, is at risk of leading western society and the rest…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						Thanks, Matthew, for clearing up the CMJ puzzle for me.  I've never heard it referred to as CMJ before.
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				<title>Duncan McKenzie</title>
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						<blockquote>I'm sure the residents of Royal Oak, Mt Roskill, Hillsborough, Waterview, Avondale, New Windsor, Rosebank, New Lynn, Te Atatu and sundry other suburbs ...will be relieved to hear that they actually imagine that their suburbs are utilised as conduits for airport-bound traffic originating from throughout the isthmus north of Greenlane.</blockquote>…
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>WTF is this CMJ that has entered the frame wrt the motorway?</p></blockquote><p>Central Motorway Junction, aka Spaghetti Junction.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>New Zealand voters have at best a 12 month memory and mostly closer to 6 months. There is no point in trying to win over voters now and Labour and Goff know that.</p></blockquote><p>National are doing a spectacular job of setting themselves up as one-term wonders. Think it through. ACC…</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>the only commentator in the country to declare himself "in awe" of Anne Tolley's performance as Education minister</blockquote>Does thinking she's awful count?
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>WTF is this CMJ that has entered the frame wrt the motorway?<br />And if the airport link was to have gone via Rosebank Rd people would have no real option but to go the designated route.</p>
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						Matthew, I'm not counting on changing your perception any more than Roughan's but the example given was the route to the airport, not just the first stretch along the motorway.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<blockquote><p>his political vision has been quite parsimonious in my view</p></blockquote><p>This</p><p>I have a good friend who is as far right in his views as I am left. We both agree on this point &ndash; John Key has no vision for New Zealand whatsoever. His only interest is to get…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So who are the real beneficiaries of the Waterview connection?</p><p>The residents of Epsom.</p></blockquote><p>Epsom is the only suburb through which vehicles travel to the airport? Really? I'm sure the residents of Royal Oak, Mt Roskill, Hillsborough, Waterview, Avondale, New Windsor, Rosebank, New Lynn, Te Atatu and sundry other suburbs…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>Sacha, hate to break it to you but all the intellect in the world can't convince me that it doesn't <em>feel</em> like a long way from Waterview to Rosebank. I <em>know</em> the hard data, but it feels like a very long way.</p><p>Also, if it's 4.8km from CMJ to Waterview,…</p>
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						<p>Craig,</p><p>There’d be just as many people convinced she was more than just the finger puppet for that cabal too.</p><p>Want to know where to find them?</p>
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				<title>Duncan McKenzie</title>
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						<p>So who are the real beneficiaries of the Waterview connection?</p><p>The residents of Epsom.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I am keen to see how Key's leadership pans out &ndash; whether he has enough control over the zealotry to maintain his 'aw shucks' image and not to unleash policy that might scare the electorate; or whether he really is the cardboard cut-out figurehead for the razor-gang.</p></blockquote><p>There are people…</p>
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						<p>Psychological? &ndash; it's <a href="http://maps.google.co.nz/maps?f=d&amp;source=s_d&amp;saddr=North+Western+Mwy&amp;daddr=rosebank+rd+exit&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=FeNhzf0dz9ZpCg%3B&amp;mra=ls&amp;sll=-36.874334,174.703345&amp;sspn=0.008565,0.01929&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=-36.872454,174.697503&amp;spn=0.002141,0.004823&amp;t=h&amp;z=18" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a straight piece</a> of three lane motorway over a causeway, free flowing at maximum speed except at evening peak.  </p><p>It's 4.8km from CMJ to Waterview, then another 30km to the airport. Going to Rosebank adds about another 12th onto the journey. At the usual 100km/hr on that stretch,…</p>
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						<p>Sacha, I do have to say that it feels like a <em>really</em> long way between Waterview and Rosebank. I know it's psychological, but I actually wouldn't be in the least bit surprised about the accuracy of that assumption.<br />Also, it's not the distance from Waterview to Rosebank that matters, but…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Policy debates are for pointy-heads and politicians. We have a President.</p></blockquote><p>Even those who most shamelessly fawned over Reagan's supposed political skills would have probably conceded, in their most private moments, that there was some truth in the claim that he could never have a Watergate because nothing that important…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>seemingly willful dismissal of policy based on evidence and research in favour of what feels right</p></blockquote><p>Roughan <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10606377&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">offers</a> a perfect example about Joyce:</p><blockquote><p>Auckland's western ring road had to come into Waterview rather that take the more obvious route along the Rosebank Peninsula, he explained, because it had to be the…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It was the same persona that graced his Letterman performance &ndash; and that's what charms the folks at home.</p></blockquote><p>Cue soft focus and soothing voiceover: <em>It's morning again, in New Zealand.</em></p><p>From the "been here before" file ... Time magazine, on Ronald Reagan, 1986:</p><p>"Here is Reagan, still getting away…</p>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>I am keen to see how Key's leadership pans out &ndash; whether he has enough control over the zealotry to maintain his 'aw shucks' image and not to unleash policy that might scare the electorate; or whether he really is the cardboard cut-out figurehead for the razor-gang.</p><p>But at this…</p>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p>Just to remind a few people, 9 years ago   Jenny Shipley  was ...still, the new face of National. <br />There was a while to go before Bill English  made his entrance on the Beehives Got Talent show.</p><p>But dont you think its a bit strange that Joyce is being lauded ...…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Key has read the mood of an electorate not hungry for radical change</p></blockquote><p>This seems about right &ndash; he's a perfect "modern conservative" in some ways.   He gently reassures the country that we're going to keep truckin on because everything's pretty much fine as is. <br />That doesn't work for me…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>. I've even heard him refer with a laugh to his own muddly oration on TV news. He connects.</p></blockquote><p>Just as, in a funny way, people connected with Helen Clark's rather flinty and awkward media persona as a sign of strength and seriousness.  And I'm not being catty or misogynistic…</p>
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				<title>Kerry Weston</title>
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						I've never forgotten that hastily-canned tourism clip of Our John joyfully, boyishly even, extolling the virtues of NZ. It was the same persona that graced his Letterman performance &ndash; and that's what charms the folks at home. It's because he comes across as 'take me as I am, an ordinary…
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No spitting from me. I think there's something in that.</p></blockquote><p>It worked under Helen Clark. It's not working now, because it only works when you're able to paper over disputes in the service of <em>winning</em>. About now would be a good time for Labour to work out some of these…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						As Albert Eienstein put it, <em>Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen</em>
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						<blockquote><p>We'll hear "common sense" conjured as a means of diversion from troublesome advice – and perhaps we should be worried about that. Because sometimes "common sense" is the most dangerous thing.</p></blockquote><p>Preach it, Russell! This is the main thing that really worries me about this government. The seemingly willful dismissal…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm probably going to get spat on for saying this, but aren't Key and Clark almost identical in this respect:</p><p>I'm not a fan of parlour psychoanalysis, but I don't think anyone has really nailed the extent to which Clark was determined the bloody civil war that FUBAR'ed the Labour…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If he doesn't display the obvious intellect of Helen Clark, he has made good use of a quality that often eluded Clark – charm.</p></blockquote><p>I'm probably going to get spat on for saying this, but aren't Key and Clark almost identical in this respect:</p><p>I'm not a fan of parlour…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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