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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And you also do the some with the PC folks with the words "Microsoft is evil".</p></blockquote><p>Huh? Most PC folk I know think "Microsoft is evil" is <em>knowledge</em> . It's just the Devil you know :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:43:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						Talking about Mac vs PC is about preferences and likeability. You can always provoke violences among the Mac fans by saying the words "Apple tax" or "expensive". And you also do the some with the PC folks with the words "Microsoft is evil". Truth to be told, both sides is…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:31:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was set up with the boring old Post Office, myself. Ironic that Kashin lived longer than that bank.</p></blockquote><p>I still have the PostBank money box in a junk drawer here somewhere, although I broke into it at some point after the ANZ takeover.</p><p>It occasionally amuses me that despite…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:15:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>I was envious of the kids who banked with Kashin. I was set up with the boring old Post Office, myself. Ironic that Kashin lived longer than that bank.</p><p>As for phone services, I resist calls to 'modernize', and generally prefer to use voice. I won't leave voice messages, but…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:45:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:42:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Grey Lynn, then, Gareth?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:42:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Windows 7 is so good that it's made me... buy a Macbook Pro...</p><p>After suffering through Vista on me Dell laptop, having installed the 7 RC I realised how much more useful the guts of a computer can be.  But then I realised that I'd have to fork out hundreds…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:29:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Are these the final days...?</strong></p><p>:: Warning :: Threadjack ::<br />:: Cultural Upheaval Ahead ::</p><p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/aug2009/db20090831_005947.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Disney buys Marvel!!</a><br />&ndash; there goes the <em>Howard the Duck</em> revival then... <br />Bags the first Vibranium cased iPhone!</p><p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/8229478.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Who's at the bottom of your swimming pool?</a> <br />UK Police have been handed new information and are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:44:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's a mixture of tight deadlines leading to reporters needing a quick rent-a-quote from both "sides", and the useless 'he says she says' reporting technique the media seems to love, that leads to people like McCroskie, Cameron Brewer, Garth McVicar et al. getting a disproportionate amount of press.</p></blockquote><p>Slight dissent…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:20:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James W</title>
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						Whenever I get called to do a survey I always say yes, because I know how influential they are, especially political ones. Considering how many people refuse or hang up (or give all 5s), I reckon my real answers probably have quite a bit of sway over the final result.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:17:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>James W</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So you did. Part two of this Editing The Herald post, wasn't it?</p></blockquote><p>Yes.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:08:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Most of the time, I love you guys. But sometimes, just sometimes, you're enough to bring on a headache of epic proportions, as the brain tries to comprehend words I've never heard of, and OS's I wouldn't be brave enough to try. Let alone install. We have a guy for…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:00:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Seriously, this is getting derisory.</p><p>And guys, there is nothing to be excited about an operating system.</p></blockquote><p>Aw, don't be silly Tony. I found that review fascinating. Siracusa's final paragraph is this.</p><blockquote><p>Snow Leopard is a unique and beautiful release, unlike any that have come before it in both scope…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:28:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						I got my Studio XPS from Dell (yes, the Dell Hell, but these lappies are sexay) last week, and spent the grand total of 20 minutes this evening installing Mint Linux (an Ubuntu derivation) as a dual-boot OS with Fista [sic] (hurry <em>up</em> Win 7 upgrade!) and all the bundled…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:16:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						<p>Sound like I started a flame war...</p><p>I logoff for a couple hours catching up on uni work. Yes, I know its a semester break. I have one more. From Ars's review:</p><blockquote><p>The number-one feature request from heavy column-view users has finally been implemented: sortable columns.</p></blockquote><p>Seriously, this is getting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 23:43:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Apple &ndash; OS and gaming the system too ...?</strong><br />if we can believe the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-dorfman/sec-investigating-apple-t_b_272159.html?view=screen" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Huffington Post</a> the Securities &amp; Exchange Commission has kicked <br />off an investigation into the trading in Apple's securities both here (US) and abroad. </p><p>Jobs for the boys then?<br />or just Intel Inside(r) trading?</p><p>you got a light,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:42:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Morphic Resonance, or...?</strong></p><blockquote><p>I was about to post that myself. You know, elephants, rooms, cash in . Damn it, you Trunked me.</p></blockquote><p>...or, post-magic pre-science &ndash; in the holographic bubble universe, grate branes think alike...</p><p>I want to spend my light with a grille like you...</p><p>sorry about truncating your…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:29:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Woot!</p><p>The <a href="http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ars review of Snow Leopard</a> is up &mdash; all 23 pages of it.</p><p>And I found a bug in opening one PDF that repeatably crashed both Preview and Safari.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:46:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Take a good look around Windows 7: A First Look for IT Pros and tell me if you still view Windows 7 as a service pack?</p></blockquote><p>Actually, I said "bug fix" in response to Tony's "service pack" &mdash; but I wasn't being <em>entirely</em> serious ...</p><p>It actually seems to me…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:35:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Charlton Heston Appreciation Society...</strong></p><blockquote><p>It's the newly formed National Shooters Association.</p></blockquote><p>Two stories in today's Press about guns:<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch/2820111/Plan-for-gun-shop-sited-near-school-worries-residents" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Plan-for-gun-shop-sited-near-school-worries-residents</a><br />and<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch/2820103/Business-broker-faces-three-firearm-charges" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Business-broker-faces-three-firearm-charges</a></p><p>in the first one:</p><blockquote><p>Gun City owner David Tipple said any concerns about the location of the store were simply "hysteria". <br />...and later...<br />"Our customers are the cream of…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:05:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re overseas funding. Have you seen www.nsanz.org.nz? It's the newly formed National Shooters Association. No idea where they get the money from, but at first sight I wondered if it was an NRA offshoot.</p></blockquote><p>As far as I can tell, it's just one man from Palmerston North who is fighting…</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So you spent $59</p><p>$20 per licence, if you want to look at it that way. And that's the whole operating system, not some arbitrarily crippled "home" edition. How many hundred $ do you reckon the Windows 7 bug fix will set you back?</p></blockquote><p>Both of you, stop it. Anyway,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:31:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						Damn you Dalziel, I was about to post that myself. You know, elephants, rooms, cash in . Damn it, you Trunked me.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And you know how they always say "now, on a scale of blah to blah with shit meaning crap" every bloody time? We HAD to do that, and we got in trouble if we didn't read the question out exactly, every time. As far as I could tell, the supervisors…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>But the clincher has to be that it can't be a service pack because Mac OS doesn't have "service packs" ... </blockquote>Well, not free ones anyway.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:23:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>The Family Fist (in a velvet glove)...</strong><br />&ndash; Thumper says there's trouble in the forest... <br />the other bunnies look worried...<br />I see they have a full page ad in the Press today &ndash; headed "Your Govt has not listened.<br />But we will" and then goes on to mention a "massive…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:18:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rachel Prosser</title>
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						<p>Re overseas funding.  Have you seen www.nsanz.org.nz?   It's the newly formed National Shooters Association.  No idea where they get the money from, but at first sight I wondered if it was an NRA offshoot. </p><p>Their purposes include "taking such litigation in the Law Courts of New Zealand as may be…</p>
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				<title>Rik</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How many hundred $ do you reckon the Windows 7 bug fix will set you back?</p></blockquote><p>Grrrr...you're starting to sound like that twit Mark Webster that writes that one-eyed and often ill-informed blog about Macs for the Herald!</p><p>Take a good look around [[http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/dd266801.aspx|Windows 7: A First Look for IT…</p>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						I have been known to double-check with the survey caller the length of time that it will take. When the allotted time is up I just say "Well that's the x minutes, bye" and hang-up.
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote>(say if you're asking for opinion of a certain service station on a scale of one to ten, with one meaning bad and ten meaning excellent &ndash; you know the drill) they start answering in all ones or tens. </blockquote>I find answering 5 for all the questions to be a…
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Voicemail is the biggest pain in the arse ever. I'm almost at the point of changing my voicemail message to say that I don't use voicemail, so please don't leave a message.</p><p>I'd rather get a text or an email or a tweet or a Facebook message. Anything but voicemail.</p></blockquote><p>…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Well done Russell, Elephants and Snow Leopards in one post.<br />The events do have something in common. The Zoo attracted Elephant fans from all of Auckland and beyond by eliminating an Elephant. Whilst Apple attracted Leopard fans from... well, all Macland at least, by eliminating old and infirm code. <br />How…</p>
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				<title>Joshua Drummond</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The surveys are long, banal and repetitive. I can't help but wonder how many busy people just get annoyed halfway through and put the phone down, which must have an impact on the sample.</p></blockquote><p>Lots do. It happened to me plenty of times. What's more common, though, is for people…</p>
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				<title>Phil Lyth</title>
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						<blockquote>Digipoll</blockquote>  And the rest,  Colmar Brunton seem to have had me on high rotate over the last three  months even though I tell them 'No thanks' every time they call with their '10 minute' telco survey.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Gods. Digipoll. I used to work for them. If you think it's bad taking a survey, try being the one reading the thing out. <br />The "it'll only take 12 minutes" thing is a management-mandated lie that we had to tell.</p></blockquote><p>The surveys are long, banal and repetitive. I can't help…</p>
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				<title>Joshua Drummond</title>
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						<p>Gods. Digipoll. I used to work for them. If you think it's bad taking a survey, try being the one reading the thing out. <br />The "it'll only take 12 minutes" thing is a management-mandated lie that we had to tell. We know quite well that it'll take much longer, but…</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Eade</title>
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						<p>Kashin memories.</p><p>Every kid at my primary school in the 1970's had an ASB  kashin moneybox and ASB banking was a school activity. The cult of kashin started very young.</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I asked the Herald exactly this question, how a one-man organisation gets into their paper so often, and is always called "Family First director Bob McCroskie".</p></blockquote><p>So you did. Part two of this <a href="http://editingtheherald.blogspot.com/2009/08/stop-press.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Editing The Herald</a> post, wasn't it?</p>
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				<title>Phil Lyth</title>
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						Russ,  did the PDF make it through to you  (tried from two addresses),  or could it have been trpped in spamfilter hell?
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sorry, had to ask;-)</p></blockquote><p>Touche</p><p>Actually it was more that I had to keep trying to get him to change. Helped when his machine blew a gasket though. Change became inevitable at that point and the issue was simply one of direction.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's a mixture of tight deadlines leading to reporters needing a quick rent-a-quote from both "sides", and the useless 'he says she says' reporting technique the media seems to love, that leads to people like McCroskie, Cameron Brewer, Garth McVicar et al. getting a disproportionate amount of press.</p></blockquote><p>That's it…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[thanks] for inspiring me to keep trying to get an open OS on my laptop &mdash; as much as I don't mind mac os I had forgotten how nice it is to control the entire achine</p></blockquote><p>How long does he plan to keep trying to get an operating system installed…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>By the way, has anyone heard from the Maxim Institute recently? They must be very envious.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe they haven't fully recovered from that plagiarism incident.</p>
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				<title>James W</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Apropos McCroskie, I'd like to know why the hell he gets so much coverage.</p></blockquote><p>I asked the Herald exactly this question, how a one-man organisation gets into their paper so often, and is always called "Family First director Bob McCroskie". Their Social Issues reporter replied, saying he agreed McCroskie was…</p>
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				<title>Brickley Paiste</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It was Dead Elephant Frenzy.</p></blockquote><p>Was it that or was it the fact that the zoo was free for the day?  It was wasn't it?  Perhaps the lack of prohibitive prices got out masses.  It's bloody expensive.</p><blockquote><p>Did else reading go? How was it?</p></blockquote><p>We thought about buckling to the…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Not saying this is wrong, just that the media seems to present them as a political movement or society.</p></blockquote><p>As with many entities that get coverage disproportionate to their intellectual or popular heft, I feel that perhaps I should write a little Firefox plugin that replaces all occurences of "Family…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>And now &ndash; onto those damned Macs :-)</p><p>I will share the contents of a message from a friend of mine (hope he won't mind).</p><blockquote><p>[thanks] for inspiring me to keep trying to get an open OS on my laptop &mdash; as much as I don't mind mac os I…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Stick to FF NZ (not a Mac guy, sorry), it is clear from their rules that they are trust. Nothing more.</p><p>They are not a society with members etc., they represent the trustees, all two (or is it four) of them. Not saying this is wrong, just that the media…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Though to be fair Tony's not the only one calling it a service pack. (and I edit to point out that I don't care either way, but that I had read the linked to article yesterday)</p></blockquote><p>There's some good debate about that in the comments below the article. For me,…</p>
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				<title>David Cormack</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Am I the only person who is slightly more worried about Bob McCoskrie's functional innumeracy (or his Tourette-like compulsion to make shit up) than where Focus on the Family gets its money from?</p></blockquote><p>Quelle horreur, nutty fundy groups get money from richer nutty fundy groups</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em> Yes, it is a service pack by definition.</em></p><p>Enjoy that new "fade-in highlight effect" on your Start menu, dude ...</p></blockquote><p>Though to be fair Tony's not the only one <a href="http://smarterware.org/3071/fine-ill-say-it-snow-leopard-is-ultimately-a-service-pack" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">calling it a service pack</a>. (and I edit to point out that I don't care either way, but that I…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>At Least Family First have removed any doubt about using the term "child beaters" when talking about their goals.</p><p>"Should a damn good thrashing, as part of good ...."</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/national/2814572/Violence-blamed-on-removal-of-corporal-punishment" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/national/2814572/Violence-blamed-on-removal-of-corporal-punishment</a></p><p>Really, if this is not advocating for child beating I don't know what is.</p>
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Don't you guys have a magazine in your house?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, "Library" was once an honest euphemism for toilet too, in honour of the magazine rack therein.  Best Americanism &ndash; "where's the euphemism?"</p>
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						Legbreak &ndash; I think she was "The People's Pachyderm"
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So you spent $59</p></blockquote><p>$20 per licence, if you want to look at it that way. And that's the whole operating system, not some arbitrarily crippled "home" edition. How many hundred $ do you reckon the Windows 7 bug fix will set you back?</p><blockquote><p>on having new features such as…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Julian Melville</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Go the Wot Wots!</p></blockquote><p>Oh, hell yes. A kids show I can watch without being overcome with an urge to scratch my eyes out. Great stuff.</p>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How strange &ndash; that's the last room I'd think of confronted by that name, "keeping one's powder dry" and all that. Or might it refer to the explosive power of the powder, nicely connecting back to the traditional "thunder box"?</p></blockquote><p>Don't you guys have a magazine in your house?  How…</p>
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				<title>Ian Fish</title>
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						<blockquote><p>An increasing number of real estate agents now talk about "powder rooms" instead of toilets in their ads.</p></blockquote><p>I think it is as in 'powder your nose'</p>
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				<title>Ian Fish</title>
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						<p>I (&amp; my wife) have mobiles on contract with Vodaphone, but they still charge a per call fee to check my voicemail! So we don't use.</p><p>My wife had her first day as a 'paid' zookeeper at Auk Zoo on saturday, fortunately she got out of having to go in on…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I asked the Chief Electoral Office under the OIA and on 13 July got this (RB, can I add a PDF of the reply?)</p></blockquote><p>If you email it to me I can upload it.</p>
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				<title>ChrisW</title>
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						<blockquote>An increasing number of real estate agents now talk about "powder rooms" instead of toilets in their ads.</blockquote> How strange &ndash; that's the last room I'd think of confronted by that name, "keeping one's powder dry" and all that.  Or might it refer to the explosive power of the powder,…
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				<title>Phil Lyth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd love to know how the referendum $9m was spent.</p></blockquote><p>I asked the Chief Electoral Office under the OIA and on 13 July got this  (RB,  can I add a PDF of the reply?) in round fgures</p><p>Printing and delivery of ballot papers  (outward)  $1.8M<br />* Budgeted postage for return…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I removed voicemail from my phone service ages ago.</p></blockquote><p>Both my work and personal phone messages are: "I'm not here, don't leave a message, I won't check it. Text or email me instead for an immediate response"</p><p>In the first week I got four messages, all of which said "What…</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>Six months ago, I realised that I didn't know how to check the voicemail on our home phone.  My thoughts were, if it's important, they'll call my mobile.  So we've been paying for technology I don't know how to use.</p><p>My god, I thought.  I am turning into my parents.</p>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						So you spent $59 on having new features such as "Easy PDF text selection", "Faster startup and shutdown" and "Finder's icons can now be as large as 512 by 512 pixels". Finally, Mac OS X now has system-wide, user-definable text substitution—see the Text tab of Language & Text in System Preferences.…
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Not so much as a dead elephant but a threatened kiwi!  Some of you might not know that there is a Centre for New Zealand Studies at the University of London (Birkbeck College), which has been funded by a combination of NZ and the UK government.  It was largely the…
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>I'd rather get a text or an email or a tweet or a Facebook message. Anything but voicemail.</blockquote> I removed voicemail from my phone service ages ago. And we don't have an answerphone either. I figure that there are thousands of ways for people to stay in touch &ndash; remove…
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						I'd love to know how the referendum $9m was spent.
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						So was Kashin the People's Elephant?
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Different outfit &mdash; Bob's Family First.</p></blockquote><p>I stand corrected &mdash; they all melt together into a bit ear-waxy ball of useless.</p><blockquote><p>But I am interested in where he gets his money from and how it's spent.</p></blockquote><p>So am I, but I'd rather the Herald on Sunday put a little more…</p>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p>Anyone else think the photo in the Herald last week of Kashin being craned into her final resting place was a little unnecessary ?</p><p>My kids were a bit disturbed by it when they were looking through the paper looking for 'news' to take to school.</p>
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>Yes, she was put down, but she definitely died. To say anything dies does not suggest agency automatically. </p><p>I just dislike euphemisms such as this. An increasing number of real estate agents now talk about "powder rooms" instead of toilets in their ads. </p><p>It's a style of language I find…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My kids are gutted, by the way.</p></blockquote><p>So is my inner child, you cynical bunch. Kashin was like a family pet &ndash; just marketed to and shared by many, many families. But very good at building affectionate relationships spanning years, in any case. I was touched that they closed the…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Voicemail is the biggest pain in the arse ever. I'm almost at the point of changing my voicemail message to say that I <em>don't</em> use voicemail, so please <em>don't</em> leave a message.</p><p>I'd rather get a text or an email or a tweet or a Facebook message. Anything but voicemail.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:50:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...a transcription service for voicemail...</p></blockquote><p>A contact is a high volume cellphone user with Vodafone and as a part of his package he gets a 'free' actual person to take his voicemail messages, that are then sent to him by SMS.  Since he got the service his voicemail has fallen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:38:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>I'm gagging for Apple products.</p><p><a href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article6736587.ece" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article6736587.ece</a></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/2723705/Macbook-cracks-upset-Apple-fans" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/2723705/Macbook-cracks-upset-Apple-fans</a></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/2682891/iPhone-suicide-workers-family-paid-67-000" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/2682891/iPhone-suicide-workers-family-paid-67-000</a></p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Kashin didn't "pass" Kashin died.</p></blockquote><p>Actually, she was put down.  "Kashin died" doesn't suggest any agency, whereas the zoo staff have actually been pretty upfront about the fact that she was in a lot of pain and so they made the decision to euthanise her.  </p><p>My kids are gutted, by…</p>
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				<title>Rik</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Vodafone – that their billing system is messy and that their inability to make all online account services available via a single website is lamentable</p></blockquote><p>Get yourself onto the XT Network!</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:28:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Interesting they are asking about a transcription service for voicemail. I blogged a couple of months ago that someone should offer such a service. I'd definitely use it, if it was reasonably priced. My concern is they'll charge $5 a message!</p></blockquote><p>My mind was deadened by the repeated questions, but…</p>
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				<title>DPF</title>
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						Interesting they are asking about a transcription service for voicemail. I blogged a couple of months ago that someone should offer such a service. I'd definitely use it, if it was reasonably priced. My concern is they'll charge $5 a message!
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Perhaps Russell you could ask Larry Baldock if he could put all his funding into something productive for families at risk rather than advertisements and printed pleas for the right to continue to hit children. Rough calculation over dinner last night: $10 million to run referendum = 400 half time…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Am I the only person who is slightly more worried about Bob McCoskrie's functional innumeracy (or his Tourette-like compulsion to make shit up) than where Focus on the Family gets its money from?</p></blockquote><p>Different outfit &mdash; Bob's Family First.</p><p>But I <em>am</em> interested in where he gets his money from…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Am I the only person who is slightly more worried about Bob McCoskrie's functional innumeracy (or his Tourette-like compulsion to make shit up) than where Focus on the Family gets its money from?</p></blockquote><p>Yes?</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Out on the main road, I could see streams of families: thirtysomethings and their families; the parents just of the age to have been captured by the legend of Kashin the elephant as small children themselves.</p></blockquote><p>This reminds me of the last time I went to the Easter Show. There…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Apropos McCroskie, <a href="http://vital.org.nz/entry/title/who_does_bob_mccroskie_represent" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">I'd like to know why the hell he gets so much coverage</a>. I wonder also whether they might not be receiving foreign largesse over at Family First too.
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Well, if we're measuring, mine's 64-bit now too."</p></blockquote><p>To be honest, I haven't noticed a difference.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I really don't understand those occasions where people show up with the whole family in tow because something happened. They won't see anything, they won't be able to help, why do they go?.<br />There is a reason people go to a funeral of a friend or relative, to "show your…</p>
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				<title>Julian Melville</title>
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						We assumed that Sunday at the zoo would be completely mental, so we went along on Saturday instead. The weather was great and the place was in full Wot Wot frenzy. Later we saw the fauna show and got to pet a tuatara. A really great day out all round.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Herald on Sunday's Matt Nippert, who revealed last week that Focus on the Family New Zealand has received a million dollars in funding from its US affiliate in the past six years.</p></blockquote><p>Am I the only person who is slightly more worried about Bob McCoskrie's functional innumeracy (or his Tourette-like…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Did my own OS up date over the weekend. Ubuntu 32 bit to 64bit.</p></blockquote><p>Well, if we're measuring, mine's 64-bit now too.</p><p>Most noticeable in System Preferences, which has to relaunch into 32-bit mode for some third-party preference panels.</p>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						The free entry to the zoo on Sunday was sponsored by ASB....  so they've certainly maintained something of a relationship... whether it's been continuos or sporadic, I dont know, but my son got a plastic elephant moneybox with Kashin's name on it from the ASB last year...
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>She was female, I thought...?</p><p>I had my first savings account with ASB/Kashin, too. It brought me back to primary school to hear that name again.</p>
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				<title>Hamboy</title>
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						<p>Did my own OS up date over the weekend. Ubuntu 32 bit to 64bit.<br />Which did involve a complete reinstall.<br />The easiest and fastest OS install I've done.<br />No waiting 3 hours to reformat the hard drive, no searching around for drivers and programs to install.<br />Small issue with grup…</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						Do the ASB still sponsor Kashin? I remember him from when I opened my first bank account aged 5. Since then my saving habits have fallen by the wayside but Kashin got them off to a good start. RIP big guy!
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				<title>Michael Stevens</title>
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						<p>I was going to say sorry for this, for being a language nut, but then, I'm not. Kashin didn't "pass" Kashin died. </p><p>Why have we let this mendacious lower-middle class euphemism replace the simple reality of the verb "die" ? </p><p>You can pass wind, pass an exam, pass another person…</p>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p>I have really had enough of all of this, Baldock, FFNZ et al and their deviant fixation with beating children.  Why can't they just STFU and go away.</p><p>A vain hope, I know</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Good <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Politics/WhentheNewsStartswithab/tabid/1208/articleID/119164/cat/934/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">smacking referendum roundup</a> by bFM's Paul Deady, on his 3 News blog.</p><p>TV3 needs to make more of the presence of these blogs.</p>
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				<title>Christopher Nimmo</title>
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						<p>You have to talk to Larry Baldock?</p><p>I'm so sorry.</p>
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