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Andrew Smith

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 19:09:18 +1200

"Steyn is a bigot afforded a veneer of respectability by the fact that he is sometimes used by respectable newspapers (although his relationship with the Daily Telegraph only lasted as long as the presence of his sugar-daddy Conrad Black), and that nasty little effort was all too typical of his…

Ben Austin

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:24:46 +1200

I can believe that. CMS with date expiry options per page are a godsend for the lazy

Robyn Gallagher

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:51:53 +1200

I often had reason to trawl through the shared drives at my last employer, and one thing I constantly saw was a huge amount of dead or abandoned folders full of all sorts of interesting things.

When I worked for [NZ's largest ISP], I found a directory on their website…

hamishm

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:19:49 +1200

There's a part of Google that allows you to open your computer up to the whole freakin' universe. I put the work computer on it then checked it from home and got the shock of a lifetime! Took it off asap. It is very scary. Why anyone would do that…

Ben Austin

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:55:25 +1200

I often had reason to trawl through the shared drives at my last employer, and one thing I constantly saw was a huge amount of dead or abandoned folders full of all sorts of interesting things. that possibly shouldn't have been abandoned.

After this I think perhaps it is a…

Che Tibby

Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:22:51 +1200

Of course I cannot be held accountable for any missing laptops...

neither. i'm sure those pcs are just in a basement somewhere. 5000 employees, at least one computer per? a few are bound to end up under lock and key somewhere.

i was more driving at the categorisation of files.…

Jeremy Andrew

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:15:45 +1200

does all this stuff on email servers get backed up and reverentially stored

Yup, where I work it is, everything in & out & between is duplified in transit and stored on DVD in glorious banalicolour for future archaeologists to cure insomnia with.

81stcolumn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:46:02 +1200

Of course I cannot be held accountable for any missing laptops.......

Tom Semmens

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:45:50 +1200

"...Funny you should say this (but it's probably on her auto sig), but more that 15 years ago I migrated the data for a GM of one of the Parliamentary agencies from one computer to another. He had gigabytes of data because he'd saved everything since the day he started.…

Che Tibby

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:15:49 +1200

i worked at ird for a year before my current employer.

it's like you never left.

81stcolumn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:13:08 +1200

that most noble of extinct species – the filing clerk

I too was once a filing clerk, but not for long. I entered the employment of Her Majesty’s department of Inland Revenue. It was quickly discovered that I had a lexical problem that quite genuinely caused me to put files…

Jeremy Andrew

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:51:46 +1200

that most noble of extinct species – the filing clerk

I used to be one of them, back in the old days. Ask me about microfiche and the myth of the paperless office.

Che Tibby

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:40:44 +1200

noooo... the cup of cold sick is what they're forced to give to the homeless. not much money in charity, you know.

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:34:14 +1200

oh the taste of a nice cup of cold sick.

Che Tibby

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:03:21 +1200

riddley, i heard second-hand that the speech to the salvation army in chch flew like a lead balloon.

apparently the audience was very well misjudged by the speech-writers.

naturally, this isn't stopping dpf calling it "fan-bloody-tastic".

Leigh Kennaway

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:31:30 +1200

And what about that most noble of extinct species – the filing clerk?!?! Anyone who can Jurrasic Park them back in to existence deserves a Nobel Prize, and will get my eternal gratitude!!

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:52:36 +1200

probably because he was the leaker ;)

nice to see btw, mayor quimby doing another flipflop on s59 now that he realises they're on a sinking ship full of vote losing right christian fundamentalists. shame his attempts are getting much traction, and what attention there is has been quite derisory.

andrew llewellyn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:47:35 +1200

In this case the secretary didn't seem to be dealing with it. There didn't seem to be any "it" to deal with.

And y'know, it'd probably be scurrilous for me to name that minister. so I won't.

However.

It was no surprise to me that none of Murray McCully's emails…

Stephen Judd

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:31:34 +1200

One minister's migration took a couple of hundredths of a second though. We tjhought there was a problem & reran it several times... Then we checked the server & found that all there was stored on this hugely powerful computer, was 19 documents. All of them personal missives from the minister's PA.

…

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:28:36 +1200

That is one of my big fears in life, that I'm gonna die, you know, and my parents are gonna come to clean out my apartment, find that porno wing I've been adding onto for years. There'll be two funerals that day.

Heh, anyone with a sense of humour should…

Joanna

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:24:13 +1200

In defense of her email signature, most of the agency I work for has that line automatically included in all their emails. I suspect it's part of govt3 initiatives. Along with tiny cube rubbish bins but still not having the proper recycling set up installed.

Stephen Judd

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:24:08 +1200

I generally like the style of Steyn's writing.

I loathe and detest Steyn, but I agree – he's the master of the mot unjuste.

The thing that irritates the hell out of me is that literally I am as well qualified to pontificate as Steyn. In fact, since I actually…

Hadyn Green

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:18:59 +1200

If you recycle, isn't the planting of more trees to make more paper better for the environment?

(I'm trying to work this one through as I type)

Hadyn Green

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:17:09 +1200

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

I sit back, close my eyes and consider the environment, just before printing the email.

Shouldn't it just say: "don't print this email"?

Span .

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:02:36 +1200

Are there people around who print off auto-respond out-of-office email messages?

Sadly, yes. I work with two. Drive me batty they do.

Although it's not as bad as the time recently when we were all (like 20 of us) posted, from our Wellington office, invites and menus for a work…

3410

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:59:52 +1200

Air New Zealand; doesn't copyright law protect parody as a legitimate form of expression? By identifying Dan's piece as parody, isn't You Tube admitting there are no legal grounds for their decision?

From my understanding US law does protect parody quite strongly; (NZ, not so much. Here, again, is part…

andrew llewellyn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:38:01 +1200

Are there people around who print off auto-respond out-of-office email messages? Do they file them or something?

Funny you should say this (but it's probably on her auto sig), but more that 15 years ago I migrated the data for a GM of one of the Parliamentary agencies from one…

Peter Darlington

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:31:55 +1200

She's a greenie!

Gah, it's a corporate meme, pushed out by MFE I think? Loads of our staff use it too.

Heh, I chuckle every time I see it on the bottom of screeds of unclaimed email printing beside various workgroup printers in the organisation. Think of the trees!

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:31:52 +1200

yeah it looks like DPF is really making an enormous effort to improve the tone of his site sewerage, including dud4jaundice sans-PAmask.

Juha Saarinen

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:31:36 +1200

Philip Larkin?

So what exactly are you doing?

Kyle Matthews

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:30:57 +1200

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
She's a greenie!

Are there people around who print off auto-respond out-of-office email messages? Do they file them or something?

Danyl Mclauchlan

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:28:30 +1200

Larkin is a great poet. Unfortunately for his reputation, his estate on his death was found to include a vast hoard of porn

That is one of my big fears in life, that I'm gonna die, you know, and my parents are gonna come to clean out my apartment, find…

merc

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:25:01 +1200

Oh God, Mr Anderton, not Mr Anderson (there is a reason for my confusion, won't go into it here).
I see Farrar finally removed Swiftman's repulsive comment, but I still feel that Farrar incites his useful idiots.

Paul Litterick

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:23:52 +1200

Larkin is a great poet. Unfortunately for his reputation, his estate on his death was found to include a vast hoard of porn and his correspondence with Kingsley Amis on racial issues.

He had been considered for Poet Laureate, to the outrage of The Sun, which discovered High Windows and…

Danyl Mclauchlan

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:17:58 +1200

A lawyers assistant called Liz Lawless?

And I swear I picked up the Larkin reference without the use of google, but did have to do a search to get the words right. I have to admit High Windows, and the old classic: 'They fuck you up, your Mum and Dad'…

Simon Grigg

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:17:30 +1200

A minor correction, al-jazeera is owned (but independent of, which frustrates the US no end)) the Emir of Qatar, not Oman.

andrew llewellyn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:13:51 +1200

Wow, Danyl, you got Redbaiter off his (usually) only subject

Er... not for long though. :)

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:12:43 +1200

so I take it the Little Austrian has children of its own? i seem to recall a popular line in his empire that this was a prerequisite for passing any judgement on child-rearing.

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:09:13 +1200

Please consider the environment before flying with us.

merc

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:08:00 +1200

I'm guessing high window can't be jumped out of...DPF is off my ever visit list due to, Burt and ?tard's comments re Mr Anderson's parenting skills.
Yes DPF I hold you responsible for the vileness of your commentors and I'm just holding back calling you on more.

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:02:54 +1200

Now the bonus round, Darryl: Are you a wonderfully well-educated literary man, with a fine memory, or did you Google it? Hey, you get the virtual sweet anyhow I'm just curious. Love Larkin, but his stock seems to have devalued enormously since his death for all the wrong reasons -…

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:01:07 +1200

Heh. I just emailed Andrea Haggitt thus:

Hi Andrea,
I see your takedown request to YouTube has been successful, and in my view this was the proper way for you to assert your rights.
I have also deleted the posting on our site given that there is now no file…

andrew llewellyn

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:00:04 +1200

Compulsory link to a kiwiblog thread

Wow, Danyl, you got Redbaiter off his (usually) only subject.

Che Tibby

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:57:40 +1200

come on ranapia... add object dart to that bloglist.

i know i don't talk politics at all any more, but doesn't mean we can't all share the love.

Danyl Mclauchlan

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:51:15 +1200

Rather than words comes the thought of high windows:
The sun-comprehending glass,
And beyond it, the deep blue air, that shows
Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless.

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:48:33 +1200

Sorry for the self-promotion, but I've got a take on the Virginia Tech shooting that has nothing to do with gun control, Islam, geographical confusion (Korea, China, whatever), or whether I'd have the stones to take on a lunatic armed only with a fully-loaded fountain pen and a legal pad.…

Neil Morrison

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:47:07 +1200

I thought DPF was celebrating because here in NZ the Right benefits from the fact you have to go out of your way to be confronted with Steyn's idiocy and also that the Left has no such advantage with Fisk.

Paul Litterick

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:44:44 +1200

So much to discuss; thanks for the link.

Steyn came to public attention as a waspish commentator on musical theatre. He became a political commentator later and only became famous for that because of his strident tone after 9/11. He is popular with the Right because of his consistent anti-Muslim…

Danyl Mclauchlan

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:38:37 +1200

Can we stop calling Mark Steyn a journalist already?

Compulsory link to a kiwiblog thread in which DPF laments that liberal know-nothings like Robert Fisk enjoy a higher profile in New Zealand than incisive, quality commentators like Mark Steyn.

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:37:54 +1200

al-jazeera seems like a quality outlet for sure.

those corporations love their SLAPPs, Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation

Tane Wilton

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:33:56 +1200

Seems to be a pattern.

The EPMU had similar troubles with Air NZ when they adbusted the logo to make a pair of scissors to make light of the airline's attempts to axe 1700 ground staff.

http://www.epmu.org.nz/SITE_Default/news/media/2006_12_01_AirNZ.asp

Unfortunately the union had to back down because of the cost, but it…

anjum rahman

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:29:29 +1200

speaking of ownership, i remember a piece on mediawatch (radionz) some weeks ago re al-jazeera's english network. the point was made there as well about the difference of ownership by the sultan of oman.

i did end up watching a little bit of al-jazeera in malaysia, and was quite impressed.…

Sue

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:26:33 +1200

Dr phil blamed video games for the shooting.
no wonder oprah never talks to him anymore

Russell Brown

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:22:14 +1200

I generally like the style of Steyn's writing. I did think he was stretching that article a bit.
By the way, if you don't like Steyn's journalistic ability (and I rate that higher than anything I've seen on this blog), then why do you read the stuff?

Steyn is a…

Riddley Walker

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:00:08 +1200

good luck on the panel RB, god knows it could use some informed and reasoned input.
joanne black yesterday was a tragedy.

Hadyn Green

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:57:57 +1200

On another note:
Why are SA rugby websites SO MUCH BETTER than the Aussie ones which are in turn SO MUCH BETTER than the NZ ones?

And surely it'd be better to interview Steve Price about why the Warriors can't win away from home? :)

Hadyn Green

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:56:13 +1200

Crappity crap crap!

Hadyn Green

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:55:56 +1200

first!
That one's for you Llew

Andrew Smith

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:55:12 +1200

I generally like the style of Steyn's writing. I did think he was stretching that article a bit.

By the way, if you don't like Steyn's journalistic ability (and I rate that higher than anything I've seen on this blog), then why do you read the stuff?

Public Address

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:55:12 +1200

Discussion from blog post.