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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>I can’t find a website or facebook page for the NZ Internet party. <br />Seems a pretty basic thing to have for an party focused on the net or am I missing something?</q></p><p>Given that Slater scooped them before they were ready, not hugely surprising.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:05:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:44:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Um … quick trivia: which McGillicuddy Serious Party candidate is now an MP and party leader of a NZ political party?</p><p>Would that be Metiria Ture ?</q></p><p>Turei, and yes, she did stand for the McGillicudies in 1993, when she was 23, and the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party in 1996,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:41:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>I can't find a website or facebook page for the NZ Internet party. <br />Seems a pretty basic thing to have for an party focused on the net or am I missing something?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:16:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>Um … quick trivia: which McGillicuddy Serious Party candidate is now an MP and party leader of a NZ political party?</q></p><p>Would that be  Metiria Ture ?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:07:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Bob Jones never made it into parliament</q></p><p>Apparently it wasn't exactly the intention to begin with. Jones was more trying to split Muldoon's vote by way of the vagaries of FPP.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 16:03:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>he will romp in with a swag of friends</q></p><p>Actually, he won't as he needs to be a citizen, not just a resident.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:46:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jos</title>
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						If he can get all the 18+ people off their asses to wander down to a voting booth for a bit of a novelty and the buzz of changing something he will romp in with a swag of friends. There are a lot of spare votes out there!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 20:26:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p>Moz, I don’t have a view on whether Assange is a sex criminal or not, nor do I have a view about Dotcom’s alleged crimes. That said, I wasn’t surprised by the disastrous performance of the Wikileaks Party. </p><p>Personally, I’m torn between the view that amateurs shouldn’t expect politics is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:04:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I assumed his motivation was comparable with Julian Assange's.</q></p><p>You mean personal aggrandisement without regard for anything else? Or did you miss the implosion of the wikileaks party before the Australian election, largely as a result of the two Assange's treating the party as their personal toy? I'd hope that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:59:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>My comment was about the impossibility of Internet voting at this election.</q></p><p>My comment was about the view I might form of this party based on its policies (if it actually has any). :)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:16:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q></presumptuous unsolicited advice></q></p><p>It's far better than the advice he's paid for however. </p><p>I assumed his motivation was comparable with <a href="http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/june/1370181600/guy-rundle/how-julian-assange-s-senate-bid-will-change-australian-politic" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Julian Assange's</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:01:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>why wouldn’t he stick to his knitting and show what a mobilised web can do best</q></p><p>because he realises the impact of increasing regulatory/spying activity on anyone's ability to do just that?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:11:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>OK, so Kim Dotcom is just Bob Jones for hipsters? Good to know.</q></p><p>My comment was about the impossibility of Internet voting at this election.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:10:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Why Dotcom really wants to play politics anyway, eludes me….</q><br />Grudge. <br />Along with a bit of strategy around the pending extradition to face serious jail-time in the USA ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:07:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Maybe he saw the amount of leverage ACT gets with negligible popular support.</p><p>I wonder whether if Mega gets to over 1%, Labour might gift them a seat. Then he'll have an MP in place and be able to make a few minor demands (file lockers excluded from scope of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:06:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Why Dotcom <em>really</em> wants to play politics anyway, eludes me....<br />If he wants to promulgate change about, and via, the net,<br />why wouldn't he stick to his knitting and show what a mobilised web can do best; inform and act as a contact medium as well as a gateway, while…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 12:37:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>I think while Dotcoms new party provides internet based political junkies some excitement the reality is that it probably won't have any more impact that the McGillicuddy Serious Party, which, were it reincarnated now would probably receive the same breathless analysis as the Internet Party ....</q></p><p>Um ... quick trivia:…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:48:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>were it reincarnated now would probably receive the same breathless analysis as the Internet Party – because it appeals to ‘disenfranchised yoof’.</q></p><p>But...they weren't even funny when I was a yoof. Maybe when my parents were yoofs that joke might have been fresh. Dotcom is at least a new joke.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:02:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Phelan Pirrie</title>
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						I think while Dotcoms new party provides internet based political junkies some excitement the reality is that it probably won't have any more impact that the McGillicuddy Serious Party, which, were it reincarnated now would probably receive the same breathless analysis as the Internet Party &ndash; because it appeals to…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:17:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>I think that the proscription against treating is still a good thing, I can imagine a situation where one party might be able to afford a far larger bar than another</q></p><p>Or merely a far better legal team than another, so that their "party meeting with free entertainment" is deemed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:09:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<q>(Even though such corruption isn't even possible. When "treating" was first proscribed, candidates could (and did) have an open bar next to the hustings, and were able to ply the voters with beer/gin and observe them voting in the desired fashion. Dotcom would have had no idea whether his party…</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:57:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>So it seems that the Electoral Commission are the source of the legal advice?I'm guessing it went like this:<br />&ndash; Party yay<br />&ndash; Whaleoiil leak with free wifi detail<br />&ndash; "Free wifi is a bribe"<br />&ndash; "If free wifi is a bribe, what about a massive party for 25,000 people?"…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:54:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Very good point. The EC is (maybe, they haven't released any reasoning for their position) taking a maximalist approach that unless a political meeting is kept to a minimum standard of dullness, it's considered to be an orgy of corruption.</p><p>(Even though such corruption isn't even possible. When "treating" was…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:53:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						Which would lead to cries of outrage and invective hurled in their direction from the likes of Maurice Williamson within the National caucus. And justifiably so, considering the Communication Decency Bill was declared unconstitutional ages ago within the United States.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:41:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						I think the Internet Party can best be seen as a fusion of cyberlibertarians and social liberals. Some overseas Pirate Parties (ie Australia) have adopted issues like euthanasia law reform, for instance. And some cyberlibertarians are quite willing to provide tactical and logistical advice on issues like (say) surveillance camera…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:38:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Whatever it is, it’s not going to affect this election.</q></p><p>OK, so Kim Dotcom is just Bob Jones for hipsters?  Good to know.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:32:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tristan</title>
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						<p>I see David Cunliffe has an open invite to a state of the nation event happening soon. I also remember dancing to Che Fu at a part conference some year ago.</p><p>It seems the electoral commission’s policy on treating is related to <br />1. how big is your party<br />2. how…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:31:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Come to think of it, has anyone seen any hints of what the Internet Party’s policy (if any) might actually be towards Online Voting, given the degree of internet actually involved?</q></p><p>Whatever it is, it's not going to affect this election.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:29:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Has a political party ever bought banner ads on a website in NZ? </q></p><p>I've definitely seen it. United Future bought some ad space (and a blog post) on Kiwiblog last year. And I'm sure other parties have bought internet ads as well.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:28:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jb</title>
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						Dangerous to extrapolate local/state election results to a national level. The Pirate Party achieved 2% in the 2012 Federal election and has slipped to those numbers in 2 recent state elections from  13% in May 2012. It's currently not registering AT ALL, having been bunched together with the fringe parties…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:06:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>Will those 15,000 young people vote at all?</q></p><p>Possibly not, but they might all sign a petition stating that they should be allowed to vote online.</p><p>Come to think of it, has anyone seen any hints of what the Internet Party’s policy (if any) might actually be towards Online Voting,…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p><q>But mostly: I don't think the Electoral Commission would have bothered here had not Bomber's dumb free wi-fi plan come to light. He's quite the political strategist.</q></p><p>I guess this is what <em>not</em> paying him $8,000 a month gets you.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the Greens give out packets of seeds, and invite you to see Minuit: is that illegal? Why not?</q></p><p>poem in that</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:41:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Hmm. There's an intermediary between the party and the voter, and there's a different paradigm we put that case into (i.e advertising.) But I agree it's not super clear where the boundary is --- the Greens give out packets of seeds, and invite you to see Minuit: is that illegal?…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:21:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<q>It’s a function of the industry I work in that I meet dozens of young, straight, pākehā men who can best be described as “cyberlibertarians” (as Craig describes above.) They’re not, strictly speaking, politically apathetic</q>I know some down here, and you describe them well. Personally, I find them overwhelmingly self-centred…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:49:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>But when you look at an ad supported web page, the deal is that you get free information/entertainment/whatever in return for your eyeballs on the ad.</p><p>How's that different to a sponsored WiFi service?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:43:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						This whole thing plays into Dotcom's image and how it will play against his presumed target base though huh. "We just wanted to throw you all a giant party but The Man shut us down"...
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:28:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Political parties definitely buy facebook ads & they are certainly not illegal.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:08:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Has a political party ever bought banner ads on a website in NZ? I don't recall ever seeing it, but is that because it could be illegal or is just thought not to work?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:43:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>free party for about 25,000 people scheduled for Auckland's Vector Arena</q></p><p>and good luck with that, given the venue's capacity</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:37:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Auckland is not the key to this election</q></p><p>being the largest concentration of voters (and non-voters) it's likely to feature heavily.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:34:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Radio NZ's story:</p><p><q>Dotcom warned over party plan</p><p>The Electoral Commission says it warned internet entrepreneur Kim Dotcom that his birthday and album release party could break electoral law.</p><p>On Thursday afternoon, Mr Dotcom cancelled the free party for about 25,000 people scheduled for Auckland's Vector Arena on Monday.</p><p>The…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:29:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>Yeah, I can't see how the Greens picnic obviously differs from Dotcom's party.</p><p>Worth noting fundraisers are obviously legal 'cause you aren't giving anything away --- the reverse in fact.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:23:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>To be an illegal practice, there has to be an element of corruption.</p><p>Traditional party rallies are seen as legal, because the purpose is to promote the party and its policies through a fun event.</p><p>Bribery or treating would seem to require some sort of explicit or tacit understanding that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:17:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>If the Party Party is “treating”, where does that leave the Picnic for the Planet organised by the Green Party soon?</q></p><p>I imagine that the Electoral Commission will continue consider that an event which is primarily political in nature, and which features entertainment as a minor part, is a political…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:02:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>So it seems that the Electoral Commission are the source of the legal advice?</p><p>I’m guessing it went like this:<br />&ndash; Party yay<br />&ndash; Whaleoiil leak with free wifi detail<br />&ndash; “Free wifi is a bribe”<br />&ndash; “If free wifi is a bribe, what about a massive party for 25,000…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:45:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						The clause in question is almost identical to English law dating from the early 19th Century. The UK doesn't really have "election year" &ndash; elections are even more at the whim of the PM than here and have been held anything from six months to 4.5 years after the last…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:18:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>A good reason to keep/extend ballot box voting.</q></p><p>One of many good reasons to keep ballot box voting. We (collectively, as a species) seem to have forgotten that technology is not the answer to everything and some things actually don't need to be fixed.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:11:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q>I would imagine the electoral law drafters would have thought of election year.</q></p><p>Me too, but given some of the laws that have made it through our parliament, I'm not certain...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:09:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<p><q>Will those 15,000 young people vote at all? If Kim had 15,000 old people turning up, that would signal large-scale change</q></p><p>It's a function of the industry I work in that I meet dozens of young, straight, pākehā men who can best be described as "cyberlibertarians" (as Craig describes above.)…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:49:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Reeve</title>
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						<p>For the NZ Herald article...<br /><q>The Electoral Commission confirmed that it had provided advice to Mr Dotcom.</q></p><p>So it seems that the Electoral Commission are the source of the legal advice?</p><p>I'm guessing it went like this:<br />&ndash; Party yay<br />&ndash; Whaleoiil leak with free wifi detail<br />&ndash; "Free wifi…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:16:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>A different issue, surely.</q></p><p>I would imagine the electoral law drafters would have thought of election year.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:12:05 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q>Waitakere Man is a metaphor – just like Joe the Plumber, only wankier.</q>Yeees. And whether plumbers or not, men or not, a  good many of the voting variety do not live in Auckland, or Wellington, and have different voting triggers. What I am saying is that Auckland is not the…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:10:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						Sure Chris, but even the non-fundraising ones (like the Greens picnic)? Trying to understand what triggers the warning for "treating"
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:05:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The treating law dates back to before they had (in England) a secret ballot, when a politician could buy voters and expect them to stay bought. Arguably a secret ballot prevents this.</p><p>Although with the current ridiculous enthusiasm for internet voting, vote-buying could make a comeback &ndash; it's as easy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:01:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						<p><q> aren’t there fundraisery party things from, erm, parties quite regularly?</q></p><p>A different issue, surely. I'd've thought the point of a fundraisery party would be to raise funds for the party, whereas treating is about giving things to voters in exchange for their vote.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:56:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>WAY TO KILL THE PARTY EDGELER. ;)</q></p><p>Well, I've not long finished the second of two media interviews about the party party, so it will be pretty obvious that Kim Dotcom has someone who is not me as his lawyer. I have heard through the media that it is Chen…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:56:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>WAY TO KILL THE PARTY EDGELER. ;)</p><p>Rich's point is interesting though &ndash; aren't there fundraisery party things from, erm, parties quite regularly? Is it a question of focus/intent/marketing what?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:46:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Waitakere Man is a metaphor &ndash; just like Joe the Plumber, only wankier.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:44:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>better for Labour &amp; the Greens to get out the non-vote &ndash; difficult as it is &ndash; instead of pandering to ‘Waitakere Man’</q></p><p>Given the scale of that group last time, you'd think. </p><p>Problem is that Trotter, Pagani et al think voters stayed home cos they're redneck plumbers waiting for Labour…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:43:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>‘Waitakere Man’</q><br />There's more to political survival than just Auckland and Wellington.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:36:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						We'll know after Steven Joyce's furtive meeting with them.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:32:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tinakori</title>
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						The internet party and the ACT party seem to have incompetence in common, Although the ACT party was successful initially over time and devolved to incompetence, the internet party seems to have begun at that point.  Will the next step be an attempted takeover by Don Brash?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:20:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Part of the aim is to attract the people who don’t usually vote. I think that makes more sense than trying to win over National voters.</q><br />The youth vote is always the holy grail. Rarely sighted though. Look to local music to see if the Green Day/Dixie Chicks effect  is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:04:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Scott Nickerson</title>
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						<p><q>It was pretty inept to have not sorted this out in advance.</q><br />You might also say it was pretty inept to have the plans for your nascent political party leaked to a right-wing tabloid blogger with links to the governing party. Unless, of course, you were trying to manipulate the…</p>
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				<title>Scott Nickerson</title>
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						I guess the worry for National is this election could see a whole lot of people who don't normally vote turning out on election day. High turnout will likely lower their percentage of the overall party vote making it more difficult to secure any sort of parliamentary majority.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:35:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:35:26 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>art of the aim is to attract the people who don’t usually vote. I think that makes more sense than trying to win over National voters.</q></p><p>Indeed. I’ve always thought it’s better for Labour &amp; the Greens to get out the non-vote &ndash; difficult as it is &ndash; instead of pandering…</p>
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						<p><q>Which Trevor, which Bill and when did they roger?</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Rogers" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This one</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:20:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Will those 15,000 young people vote at all? If Kim had 15,000 old people turning up, that would signal large-scale change.</q></p><p>Part of the aim is to attract the people who don't usually vote. I think that makes more sense than trying to win over National voters.</p>
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						<p>This is the message that people who'd registered to go received:</p><p><q>FROM KIM DOTCOM:</p><p>I apologize, my friends.  Sadly we must cancel my birthday party after we received advice that the event could risk breaching electoral laws. </p><p>Because the tickets were free, we were advised that the purpose of the…</q></p>
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				<title>alobar</title>
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						the Party Party on monday is cancelled . Confession : read it on WO first (  well it is good for a laugh )
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						<p>Had to laugh at Bomber's claim that this will be a worry for the National Party<br />The Internet Party will attract people( young men) who want to stick it to the "man"<br />Not normally people who vote National or even vote.<br /> I can see a chance this will bleed votes…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Which Trevor, which Bill and when did they roger?
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>infamous Trevor Rogers bill</q></p><p>Ok, I strained my memory but came up blank...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:29:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>The guy has 15,000 young people turning up to his album launch party on Monday. </q></p><p>Will those 15,000 young people vote at all? If Kim had 15,000 old people turning up, that would signal  large-scale change.</p>
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						<p><q>And certainly I agree with Bradbury’s entirely reasonable point that Gen Ys Nats will be put off by the prospect of Colin Craig’s influence.</q></p><p>Wouldn't be at all surprised if the CCCP dusts off the infamous Trevor Rogers bill.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:14:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>The guy has 15,000 young people turning up to his album launch party on Monday. I think he has ways.</q></p><p>Fair point. And certainly I agree with Bradbury’s entirely reasonable point that Gen Ys Nats will be put off by the prospect of Colin Craig’s influence. I was, somewhat hamfistedly,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:06:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>My views on Kim Dotcom are mixed and nuanced, but I deeply like the fact that he treats my boy as a VIP.</q><br />Careful as you go, John Banks got the same treatment (hotel upgrades, too), and when John forgot this largesse... well let's just say Mr Dotcom seems to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:47:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>insider</title>
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						No, 15k people registered for free tickets to a free party by a well known rich party guy. The only kind of cut through that shows is that people like free parties and hope other free stuff will accompany it.
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Of course, we all know that Kim Dotcom was never planning to do his launch at the Cloud, it was the old book two venues then "ZOMG!!! Our venue is to small! Lucky this bigger one is available!!!!" trick.</p><p>He is a canny and natural politician.</p><p>Dare I say it,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>If this ‘splash’ was what was sought by Dotcom, his problem isn’t his consultant, it’s his ambition.</q></p><p>The guy has 15,000 young people turning up to his album launch party on Monday. I think he has ways.</p><p>I really do think that a lot of people &mdash; including Whaleoil, who…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Centre-right </q></p><p>Can we stop using centre like that. Children might pick up bad habits.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						I'm wrong, the Oil's flip on Dotcom was, as you say, most abrupt. And I'm also wrong in claiming that his slagging goes back at least a year. The word from on high obviously descended last March 2nd.
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<p><q>8k’s a lot for what Bradbury was offering.</q></p><p>I’m picking that’s the high tide mark for Bradbury. </p><p>If this ‘splash’ was what was sought by Dotcom, his problem isn’t his consultant, it’s his ambition.</p>
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						<p><q>He certainly has. The amusing part is when you look at his previous, highly supportive writing about Dotcom and his predicament. See the pics. Imagine the communications from Judith Collins’ office.</q></p><p>Sounds like a classic case of “either you’re with me or you’re with the filthy Reds under the bed”.</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						8k's a lot for what Bradbury was offering.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:22:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>The amusing part is when you look at his previous, highly supportive writing about Dotcom and his predicament. </q><br />I was aware that he’d once been somewhat supportive, but that degree of historical fawning is a revelation to me. Thanks for the laugh :)</p>
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				<title>The Ruminator</title>
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						<p>from what I understand, the directions don't come so much from JC's office. A former staffer of that office was the link.</p><p>Now it's all about this Ede fellow.</p>
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						<p>Two things:</p><p>1. The advice is awful. It's hackneyed, unimaginative and isn't likely to cut through beyond the choir to whom KDC already preaches; and<br />2. $8k a month is bugger all. You get what you pay for.</p><p>So KDC has done well to not sign-up to it. Having said…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Hardly abrupt, Oil has been acting pretty much as Key’s proxy on that issue for at least a year. </q></p><p>He certainly has. The amusing part is when you look at his previous, highly supportive writing about Dotcom and his predicament. See the pics. Imagine the communications from Judith Collins’ office.</p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>The German Pirate Party currently has forty-five elected representatives in German state parliaments. However, it has failed to gain federal Bundestag representation.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Pirate_Party" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Pirate_Party</a></p>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						How might the Internet Party do in our political context? Centre-right blogger Cameron Slater thinks that the Internet Party is excessively narrow in pursuing its planned political niche and that it might therefore remain an unelectable microparty. Is he correct about this? Dotcom's proposal sounds similar to that advanced by…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>I did not feel that Cameron’s reporting about me in any way suggested any impropriety. His reporting seems entirely fair.</q></p><p>Fair enough. I thought the "refused to talk" and "constant refrain" parts were somewhat unfair to you.</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>The Prime Minister hands out free gifts to journalists regularly. They are accepted and (in most cases) not disclosed. That may not be "treating" but it's certainly a matter of public interest, and I'd like to know why the media don't tell us about it.</p><p>Because they value the gifts…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>I would, however, be interested in the political background to Whaleoil’s abrupt shift of sympathies away from Dotcom, who he once described as a victim who had exposed troubling issues of state.</q><br />Hardly abrupt, Oil has been acting pretty much as Key's proxy on that issue for at least a…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						I can't see why Parliament wouldn't mean "at any time". Treating, after all, is basically bribery, and I can't see why it should be acceptable to bribe a voter to vote for you at any point in the electoral cycle. Although, as one Graeme Edgeler pointed out on Tuesday, the…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:44:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Cubey</title>
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						Good insider piece <a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2014/01/16/gordon-campbell-on-dotcom-and-recent-events-at-scoop/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a> by Gordon Campbell.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:42:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p><q>Well, duh. A lawyer didn’t breach his client’s confidence. I would have been astonished had Graeme answered Cameron Slater’s questions in any other way. To imply otherwise is either disingenuous or stupid.</q></p><p>I did not feel that Cameron’s reporting about me in any way suggested any impropriety. His reporting seems…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the first part of Jim’s blog on the making of the documentary went up on the Attitude website today.</q></p><p>Thanks. Interesting.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>corruptly, ... either <strong>before, during, or after an election</strong>, directly or indirectly gives or provides, or pays wholly or in part the expense of giving or providing, any <strong>food, drink, entertainment, or provision</strong> to or for any person</q></p><p>I can understand the need for $3k of Edgelering.</p><p>Before during or…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>“outline their strategy and plans to hoodwink the public into voting for what is emerging as a left-wing front and political subterfuge.”</q></p><p>Pot meets kettle when the Oily One turns a blind eye to the legalised gerrymander known as the Epsom electorate. If it is indeed subterfuge, maybe it's a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:47:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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