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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>I think you can share with a friend, but only for non-concurrent use.</blockquote>At university we had a network. We rapidly discovered there was a limit to how many could share at the same time.
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>... and tested by thousands of End Users.</p><p>Just read the licence carefully, otherwise you might discover that anything you produce using him belongs to the company. All very Rumpelstiltskin.</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p>A thousand wiki-fiddlers can't be wrong...</p><blockquote><p>What if you obtain someone by peer-to-peer sharing?</p></blockquote><p>I think you can share with a friend, but only for non-concurrent use.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:42:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						But surely they'd be reliable if they'd been worked on by hundred of experts?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:21:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You simply have a licence to use him and you may not make a backup.</p></blockquote><p>Hey babe. Wanna make a derivative work?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:18:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>could be freely distributable for non-commercial use</p></blockquote><p>There's quite a few of them in some of the bars in town of a Friday night I'm told. Some of the commercial ones as well, but not so many. Although you'd want to make sure your antivirus systems were up to date...</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What if you obtain someone by peer-to-peer sharing?</p></blockquote><p>Antibiotics &amp; strict quarantine.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:42:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What if you obtain someone by peer-to-peer sharing?</p></blockquote><p>Then you should see a doctor immediately and get tested.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:41:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You simply have a licence to use him and you may not make a backup.</p></blockquote><p>Do I own the medium he's stored in? Will they replace him if he breaks?</p><p>Besides, it depends...</p><p>He could be freely distributable for non-commercial use.</p><p>What if you obtain someone by peer-to-peer sharing?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:03:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hi Mum, look what followed me home, can I keep him?</p></blockquote><p>No. Strictly speaking, the person who followed you home is not yours to keep. You simply have a licence to use him and you may not make a backup.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:41:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Hi Mum, look what followed me home, can I keep him?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:37:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I still borrow books from the library?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but someone will have to follow you home.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:33:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Phelps</title>
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						Can I still borrow books from the library?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:10:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>"Maybe he couldn't find a tennis ball?"</p><p>And thus enters the news story which dare not speak its name...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:04:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Maybe he couldn't find a tennis ball?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:19:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						WTF Dad?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:56:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeh, I was thinking of a Kim Basinger interview in Rolling STone</p></blockquote><p>Not that it matters, but I suspect it was Vanity Fair &ndash; prompting her father to send her a package containing an orange &amp; some duct tape &amp; a note to along the lines of: "Next time you feel the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:35:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Both.</p><p>But also Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C.</p></blockquote><p>Yeh, I was thinking of a Kim Basinger interview in Rolling Stone where she mentioned the possibility of arrest if she returned to her home state…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:51:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>slarty</title>
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						<p>Always important to keep in mind clause 1 of our unwritten constitution.</p><p>"Laws of silliness, stupidity and downright unenforcibility shall be rendered void by the simple fact that the majority of the population will ignore them."</p><p>(Clause b does however state that cunning lawyers will endlessly extract many guineas from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 23:22:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But also Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C. , according to  this link</p></blockquote><p>A friend of mine who is a legal secretary in Oklahoma says it's illegal there to own more than two sex toys…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:01:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Carolyn Skelton</title>
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						<p>Russell said:</p><p>"So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2."</p><p>So that means that those of us who do not have broadband access to the net, would…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:44:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix</title>
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						<p>Both.</p><p>But also Arizona, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Utah, Virginia and Washington D.C. , according to <a href="http://www.journalism.sfsu.edu/flux/gSpot/sexLaw.html " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> this link</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:22:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><em>Didn't Greg O'Connor from the Police Association say that under the proposed legislation the Police would be forced to investigate each and every reported case of time-shifted recording?</em></p><p>They don't investigate car thefts or burglaries, so why should time-shifted recordings be especially privileged.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:57:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision</p></blockquote><p>It may not be too bad. They'll have the right to agree with you something else, but they'll have to be pretty clear or face the wrath of the consumer guarantees act.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:23:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>Argh! I was really hoping they'd remove that contracting out provision...among other things.</p><p>Well, I guess our secret mole in the Committee is on progress to build a piece of legislation that will continue to force consumers to revolt and break the law. Good work!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:04:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						Any term extensions in the Bill?  I've been rather enjoying the amount of Looney Tunes cartoons that are now out of copyright in NZ...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:32:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rebecca Williams</title>
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						i think it was utah ... no oral sex.  imagine.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:58:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Awesome video. If only we knew where Ebaumsworld stole it from...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:31:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						Robyn Gold just Gold
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:44:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>I'm still a beliver.<br />There is Pirate Willy &amp; they do conceed that it sounds like Master Bates. There are other hidden meanings, like the play on words with the FlyingDustman. <br />To win a court cases doesn't mean it's true.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:42:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>If we're going to talk about subversive children's television programmes, then the naughty Rainbow episode must be mentioned.</p><p>It was apparently made for a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_tape" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christmas tape</a> and never broadcast. But now it has a home on the intertubes.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzxdulMGN4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzxdulMGN4</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:40:41 +1200</pubDate>
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						<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Pugwash#Myth_of_double_entendres" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Wikipedia: Captain  Pugwash myth</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:11:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates & Roger the Cabin Boy?</blockquote>didn't Mikey Havoc debunk that one as urban myth a few years back??
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:02:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Michael  Fitzgerald</title>
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						<p>Int Ob<br />Subversive story lines are fantastic.<br />Was the episode on vid or in a book. <br />I was outraged as a kid when Getafix the Asterix Druid had his name changed for the movie. <br />And can anyone get Cpt Pugwash with the orig character names, Master Bates &amp; Roger the Cabin…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:35:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						Actually, I take that last sentence back. I realise this is select committee report, apologies.
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						Now I have not been accused of being a big critic of this Government, but surely this is one of the <strong>worst</strong> bits of legislation that has been passed in a long time. Something that hand over the right to make criminals of folks to the whim of corporates is…
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe this problem can be solved by an ammendment allowing police discretion over whether or not to prosecute.</p></blockquote><p>Didn't Greg O'Connor from the Police Association <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=146&amp;objectid=10447031" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">say</a> that under the proposed legislation the Police would be forced to investigate each and every reported case of time-shifted recording?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:50:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.</p></blockquote><p>Now that would be one enchanted evening...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:38:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site is now forbidden. go figure</p></blockquote><p>Plus, if your friends come around, you can't show them the programmes you've time-shifted off the telly.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:22:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-copyright-amendment-bill-latest/?p=23939#post23939</link>
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						<blockquote><p>So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of the schedule on TV One and TV2. Note that TVNZ specifically said in its submission that the measure was unrealistic and unnecessary. Go figure.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe this…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:12:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you</blockquote>Most people aren't aware of their rights, and are easily dissuaded by statements such as "it was in the contract". As is pointed out, a contract is only a contract when both parties realise they've…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:51:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<blockquote><p>We also recommend rewording section 84(1)(c) to clarify that a time-shifted recording must not be made from an on-demand<br />service.</p></blockquote><p>So capturing free content streamed off the TVNZ on demand site  is now forbidden.  go figure,</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:48:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh, and also, the select committee seems to have missed the point on the silly ban on time-shifting programmes for which there is an on-demand alternative. So it looks like the bill will go forward with a provision that would outlaw using your PVR or VCR to record much of…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:36:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						and last i heard, small print wasn't especially binding until somebody pointed it out to you
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.</p></blockquote><p>Good point. The status of shrink-wrap contracts is pretty much untested in NZ.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:55:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><em>copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts</em></p><p>I have no problem witn this provided that at the time of purchase they get a contract signed and witnessed by their agent and the purchaser.</p>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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						<p>Double Meh.  I guess now rather than fighting for sane laws, we return to our position of praying for the swift demise of the current Big Media business models?</p><p>Are there still laws on the books protecting the rights of buggy whip manufacturers?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:09:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You'll have to delete your digital copy if you part company with the original CD. The sunset clause is gone. And the committee wants the bill amended "to make it clearer that copyright owners always have the option of contracting out of all of the permitted acts.</p></blockquote><p>Meh. May as…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:53:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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