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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Interesting to look back at past comments.
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				<title>Peasant</title>
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						<p>How truly odd that someone capable of such sustained argument and complex sentences could genuinely believe Clark and Collins to be comparable?<br />Seems a bit fishy to me. Me thinks he protesteth too much.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:08:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Glaister</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No she doesn't. It's quite reasonable to say that a corrections system that produces very high rates of imprisonment and high rates of recidivism is not filling its purpose.</p></blockquote><p>That's a technicality &ndash; recidivism is a higher order statistic that's sensitive to <em>so much</em> including lengths of sentences and also…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 16:58:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>E.g. "New Zealand has high rates of imprisonment and high rates of recidivism. I draw only one conclusion from that : the system isn’t working."<br />You may think that's an OK thing to say but on various levels it's crazy. (1) Clark indulges in the fallacy of thinking that you…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:25:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Williamson ranks up there with Max Bradford for successful sector reform.</p></blockquote><p><em>Burrrrrrn!</em></p><p>True, though. Interestingly, the only two old-school holdouts on telecoms regulation in the National caucus were Brash and Williamson. So Brash goes and the Moz gets a promotion ...</p><p>I guess the best you can say about Williamson…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 11:02:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Glaister</title>
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						Simon: I think you mean "from seeing similarities".... Anyhow, I don't deny that Clark has won some elections or that she has some skills... I don't know what you mean by saying that Clark has been "on top of her game" &ndash; is that just the same thing as winning…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 17:25:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>What claptrap, Stephen. Only ideology prevents people from seeing differences between Collins and Clark?</p><p>I loathed Margaret Thatcher with every fibre of my being. But however much I hated her game, she was definitely on top of it, for many years. So is Howard, so was Kohl, and so on.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 15:13:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Glaister</title>
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						Collins strikes me too as a bit of a talentless bore... but only in the sense that Helen Clark is. They're both doctrinairre figures who pander to their bases, with a streak of mongrel and mouthy quickness thrown in to good political effect. You never hear either say anything with…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 14:46:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>Thinks: wonder if Collins could withstand a<br />co-ordinated onslaught against New Right<br />anti-welfare policies...?</p><p>Craig Y.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:17:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						Williamson ranks up there with Max Bradford for successful sector reform.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:16:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>And having  checked Scoop, yup, Worth is <br />now only an associate shadow, which seems<br />to be an indication that Key has recognised<br />his talentless droneship. Pity one can't say the<br />same about co-drone and social conservative<br />apparatchik Judith Collins. Why is she ranked<br />above Katherine Rich, who is a far…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:03:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>And another one for restoring Women's Affairs as<br />a shadow portfolio.</p><p>Craig Y</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:01:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Slack</title>
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						One further point off for elevating Williamson, the single worst thing ever to happen to IT in this country, but a point back on for doubling up in Maori Affairs.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:59:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Young</title>
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						<p>To change the subject to one close...<br />the newish Shadow Cabinet.</p><p>Getting rid of the stupid PC Eradicator role</p><div class="hr"><hr /></div><p>Yes!<br />Dumping that talentless drone, Richard Worth....Yes!!!<br />Promoting Katherine Rich...Well, Yes.</p><p>but...</p><p>Maintaining that other talentless bore, Judith Collins....No.<br />Elevating Chester Borrows, another boring godbot.....No<br />Maintaining National's dire hardline anti-welfare <br />and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:50:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I shouldn't, but I can't help myself...</p><p>How about one of those red|blue billboards worded thusly:</p><p>Honest | Don</p></blockquote><p>Heh... except what politician would you put on the honest side?  Certainly couldnt be Helen Clark.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:53:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Ritchie</title>
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						<p>"The only National MP present was Don Brash, escorted by Bryan Sinclair."</p><p>Was Don attending this breakfast meeting at Diane Foreman's in his jammies?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:39:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I resigned for family reasons... Yeah right</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0612/S00009.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pansy Wong's e-newsletter</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Sensing that the relentless efforts of the media over his stolen e-mails had impacted on National’s efforts in holding the government to account, he chose to step down as leader and will be retiring from politics in 2007.</p></blockquote><p>I mean,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:38:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The new songs that were played last night look to be every bit as good as his last effort (being the awesome Southern Lights).</p></blockquote><p>Ah, and you'd have heard some of those songs if you'd been at the Auckland Great Blend back in July ...</p><p>Re starting threads, you can't.…</p>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<p>My school didn't need no poets nor no english and it done me no harm.<br />I walked the same hallowed halls as Michael Laws, though a year or two behind and I have no recollection of him. We both followed in the footsteps of Andy Haden. <br />It's a funny old…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 12:05:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						Have just failed in an attempt to initiate a thread (how does one do this these days?) about (presumably) a mate of Russell's called SJD, who put on a terrific gig last night with some of his pals.  The gig was significantly better in my opinion that the tired old…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:38:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kevin Moar</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and debating isn't nerdy for the record. It's ultra-nerdy. And we're proud of that fact.</p></blockquote><p>Oh Marcelo, talk nerdy to me.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I shouldn't, but I can't help myself...</p><p>How about one of those red|blue billboards worded thusly:</p><p>Honest | Don</p></blockquote><p>Nice.</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can see the next tui billboard already:</p></blockquote><p>I shouldn't, but I can't help myself...</p><p>How about one of those red|blue billboards worded thusly:</p><p>Honest | Don</p>
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				<title>Muriel Lockheed</title>
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						<p>I was credited with 100% attendence at high school.  Completely wrong, I clearly remember bunking off regularly.</p><p>Sigh does that mean that I was so utterly insignificant that it mattered not if I was there or not!!</p><p>It is funny the things one can be proud of really &ndash; I…</p>
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				<title>Jason Lea</title>
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						I missed a total of 3.5 days school from primary until I graduated university.  Getting sick in the school holidays sux :(
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						That is impressive, they managed not to get sick during winter once in 5 years.
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						Speaking of prizes, at our school prizegiving recently three students were announced as having gone through high school with 100% attendance.  There were stunned gasps of astonishment, amazement, bewilderment and general awe.  I think I missed 3-5 days every term for the duration which would add up to about 50…
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						Yearbook stalking! Here I was, thinking I'd seen everything there ever could be on the Internet...
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				<title>Hamish</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I resigned for family reasons... Yeah right</p></blockquote><p>The irony being that he does have worthy family problems of his own causing to deal with :D</p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<p>B Jones wrote "I won a prize at school for a poem about maths. The only way that could have been nerdier would be if I'd written a computer program to generate it."</p><p>And read the poem out to the Chess Club.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						"About 25 guests had gathered from around New Zealand for the breakfast meeting, held at the home of Diane Foreman, in St Stephens Ave, Parnell. The guest list included Ruth Richardson, Roger Kerr, Catherine Judd, two ACT MPs, Rodney Hide and Stephen Franks, Auckland mayor John Banks, Business Roundtable chair…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Jimmy D, if it could also put some techno to the lyrics you'd be on to a winner.
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				<title>Manakura</title>
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						<p>I can see the next tui billboard already:</p><p>I resigned for family reasons... Yeah right</p><p>Unbeleivable that he has tried to credit himself with bringing "maturity" to economic and treaty discourse in the public arena... wtf!?  I remember when he admitted he hadn't read the treaty document at some point…</p>
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				<title>Kent  Parker</title>
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						<p>Brash has quit politics.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3884015a10,00.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3884015a10,00.html</a></p><p>Time for a new thread.</p><p>Oh, and "his resignation had nothing to do with the recently published book, The Hollow Men, by Nicky Hager."</p>
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				<title>Jimmy D</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I won a prize at school for a poem about maths. The only way that could have been nerdier would be if I'd written a computer program to generate it.</p></blockquote><p>Dude. Mad respect. I think you should post a copy to John Key.</p><p>My current business partner once wrote a…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><em>Having worked for several Ministers in a UK Government Department, I can attest that there is no correlation between business success and governmental competence.</em></p><p>I guess it would be a little graceless &ndash; depending on your political orientation &ndash; to enter the current and previous Mayors of Auckland as prosecution…</p>
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				<title>Marcelo Rodriguez Ferrere</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"He did quite well too, and was awarded a flash for his "devoted contribution to the club".</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>"And yet now he is contrasted with Brash for being less nerdy."</p></blockquote><p>As a <em>current</em>  (university, former school) debater, I'd just like to defend Key's decision in 1977 to make that devoted contribution.…</p>
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				<title>Damian White</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would like to confirm that experience in business does not really qualify you for anything much other than...business.</p></blockquote><p>. . . surely the whole 'reality TV' phenomena is evidence enough that experience in business can also qualify you for <em>making a complete arse out of yourself on public telly</em>…</p>
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				<title>Kent  Parker</title>
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						From the entrails of the information you provide, Ben, I would say that he is an ardent supporter of Indian sheep farmers.
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>Was at the Back Bencher today, where I found out that Key's dish is a lamb madras with lemon rice pilaf.</p><p>Any soothsayers amongst us able to divine something of import from this?</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Just down the road from you and JK, I was at Christchurch Boys', former alma mater of ... Don Brash!
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p><em>Post, re-read, correct</em></p><p>I seem to have implied above that politicians are not people. That is, of course, absurd.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<p>Hah! Prominent people who went to the school I spent most time at (moved a bit).</p><p>Sir Bob Jones<br />Bill &amp; Boyd.</p><p>How embarrassing eh?</p><p>meanwhile, great letter in today's DomPost sugsesting Key owes his success to the Labour party for creating State Housing so that his family could have a…</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Having made it through school prizeless (I was frequently "in for the high jump" though) I hesitate to contribute to this thread.</p><p>I would like to confirm that experience in business does not really qualify you for anything much other than...business. And even then a lot of "success" is about…</p>
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				<title>Gary  Hutchings</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But hasn't Key made his money through share trading? In which case, apart from his own dealing business, has not managed a business with the usual production/profit margins/debtors/creditors etc. His business consisted mainly of putting money in the right places, buying and selling t o maximise return etc.</p></blockquote><p>He was…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						I won a prize at school for a poem about <em>maths</em>.  The only way that could have been nerdier would be if I'd written a computer program to generate it.
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						Having worked for several Ministers in a UK Government Department, I can attest that there is no correlation between business success and governmental competence. Businesses exist solely to make profits. Despite everything the Rogergnomes claim, Governments cannot be run like businesses, since there is no profit motive.  Appointing the CEO…
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But hasn't Key made his money through share trading? In which case, apart from his own dealing business, has not managed a business with the usual production/profit margins/debtors/creditors etc.</p></blockquote><p>I think that's a little unfair. Successful trading requires an in-depth understanding of all of these factors and more besides. He…</p>
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				<title>Hamish</title>
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						<blockquote><p>does this make public figures like John Key mass debaters</p></blockquote><p>Heh. Yes.</p>
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				<title>Jimmy D</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the next year I won English and Creative English, the fruits of the latter being reproduced in the 1980 yearbook in the form of an amusingly romantic poem with the inscrutable title 'Integration by Inspection' (First Prize, Senior Poetry).</p></blockquote><p>Hidden depths!  I also have a school prize for poetry,…</p>
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				<title>Kent  Parker</title>
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						<p>But hasn't Key made his money through share trading?  In which case, apart from his own dealing business, has not managed a business with the usual production/profit margins/debtors/creditors etc.  His business consisted mainly of putting money in the right places, buying and selling t o maximise return etc. </p><p>I know…</p>
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				<title>Andre Alessi</title>
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						<blockquote><p>He was a keen member of the 1977 debating team.</p></blockquote><p>And yet now he is contrasted with Brash for being <em>less nerdy</em>.</p><p>Sadly, the only two people who ever made headlines from my school year were a murderer (killed his offsite remedial reading teacher at 15, was picked up by…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I should note that on closer inspection I did find John Key in one of the yearbooks and have updated the original post accordingly. He was a keen member of the 1977 debating team.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I know Anton as well, terrific guy.</p></blockquote><p>Yes &ndash; and always an independent thinker. You should ask him about his rock 'n' roll years ...</p>
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				<title>Joe Boden</title>
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						<p>Interesting post Russell.  It's hard sometimes to be able to see the present person from the bits and pieces of the past, isn't it?</p><p>I know Anton as well, terrific guy.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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