http://www.3news.co.nz/Kaye-stands-by-kidney-patient-decision/tabid/1607/articleID/345920/Default.aspx

Not sure that that rule applied to still photography, though. It's not a rule in the general guidelines.

It certainly has disappeared from the herald. It certainly was during her testimony and well after the first 15 mins. Anyway I'm not getting up in your face about it. So be it. Judge decides.

How so? I cannot find the photo to look at it, but I see nothing in the rules prohibiting the photographing of witnesses provided…

Yes, and I'm sure that TVNZ's editorial staff forced TV3 to run footage that was outside the rules that the judge (who apparently said no footage from outside the first 15 minutes of the…

For them engagement means talking,
not raining hellfire from on high!

Media do not have an automatic right to record anything and everything that happens in our courts. Indeed, there is a…

I have it on…

I think it was because
the judge thought TV3
was All Out of Love
with that 'ear supply' clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWdZEumNRmI
;- )

Not impressed with The Justice Wylie on this decision. More suppression. Where the hell have our rights gone? I'd be right pissed at the mo if I was TV3.

I think that callsign/model number/ FK-U1 is wrong. Surely it is FK-U2.

We've had better longterm success in high-jacking democracy and squashing the Right by keeping all our personnel, networks and information…

Meh. 30 years is the blink of an eye in governance terms.

Yes, its the most compelling piece of the jigsaw. If Clapper had come on a Boeing with a diplomatic retinue it would have been spooky business as usual, and something that the New Zealand public can vote on.

Formally unannounced in USAF…

Read the article. Those planes get used for just one or two extremely senior staff, with a large retinue of office staff and technicians (and sometimes media) in tow.
Does it…

Otherwise described as "Ten thousand rivets flying in close formation" according to a former flatmate.

That can't be terribly comfortable.

a glimpse inside the power conduits.
I don't think the 'silo' life is for me,
closet claustrophobe that I am...

:- )

I bet you thought it was a pie-cart when really it was recording everything anyone in the city was saying on their phones

Belt and braces. If you read the article Paul linked, the trailer is palletised for air cargo. That means it's run in on tracks and then secured with locking pins. Air forces around the world…

Looking at that inflight pic:
they sure have a lot of faith in their strapping...
I wouldn't wanna be seated (or sleeping) on the side if they were taking evasive action…

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/c17-swank/pict9.jpg

Because you don't get a full suite of secure communications equipment in business class. That plane's connections into the US national security communications network will be on a…

Dot com just looked like an easy target (easier than google ) and perhaps he was just the catalyst for the arrangements being outlined by John Campbell.

I stoatily agree.

indeed, look what happened to the guy who started Lavabit when he wouldn't cooperate:

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/20/why-did-lavabit-shut-down-snowden-email

The GCSB Act 2003 is a bit different in terms of language, but the rough gist is that the Minister controls the functions of…

Secret due to divine right, sadly. "The counsels of the crown are secret", or else we might realise that they are mere mortals like us.

it isn't – including different legal wording about the nature of the oversight relationship. This was discussed many moons ago if someone with more time wants to look it up.

Otherwise known as pulling up the ladder behind you.

According to this the PM asked Mateparae "out of the blue" to take on the office of G-G in (logically) February 2011, six months after one would have expected a decision to have been made according to the process…

Well , Ian fletcher himself says About the GCSB

The Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) is a public service department with its head office in Wellington, New Zealand. The Director of the GCSB reports directly to the Minister responsible for the GCSB, traditionally the…

ETA: Good of Key to tidy up after himself.

In the same way, I suppose, that Anne Tolley is meant to be across every police raid on every meth lab and gang headquarters?

Key is the Minister, not the…

No: [[http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2003/0009/latest/DLM5647940.html|The State Services Commissioner—
(a)is responsible for managing the process for the appointment of the Director; and
(b)must provide advice on the nominations for Director to…

Well exactly.

August 2010: Key appoints Mateparae, the then…

I would suggest the whole fireworks thing is a diversion – nothing to substantiate that claim but its the sort of thing one could…

All US government operatives stationed overseas get home leave.

I'm not sure what your point is.

For example, “did he mention dinner” is not disproved by “he never asked me to eat fish with him”.

Mentioning a fireworks display is not the same as inviting someone to it or asking if they’ll attend. But offering up and denying the latter…

And Pete George said that these would have been possible conversations between Banks and…

I believe the 2 cheque scenario was requested by Banks. Dotcom gains (and gained) nothing by splitting the $50,000.00. Banks benefitted and was the one who was initially able to…

So basing our assessment of what has happened entirely on Dotcom's claims about what he says Banks says he told Key would be very silly. Accepted. But that's…

Yes indeed, it's quite a list.

Hear, hear. Weasels are a…

The current regime has its roots in Bill Clinton's administration who…

I've seen this called 'Reagan's dilemma' before, in reference to Iran/Contra and the President's lack of any knowledge regarding what was swirling around him.

Not his best moment either as a journalist or as an interviewer. But since then he's become much better at both.

How is Dotcom's "goodness" or "badness" relevant to the present discussion? Let's say, purely for the purposes of argument, that Dotcom is a crooked copyright thief who made his fortune out of illegal activities.…

Evidence for people's states of mind is remarkably hard to find though. All you have to go on is circumstances and likelihoods. How plausible is it that person Y wouldn't be aware of Z given A,B,C...X.

And again, this isn't a court where…

I mean, I've heard all the rumours...
and I even read all the ©opyright Thread!

And Key should have an interest because oh...y'know, he's the friggin head of said GCSB! It was his "operational matter". or as RB asks, What the hell does…

Simon Grigg. Just sayin'.

That has long been your tactic in other forums (most of which have banned you for it) and I'd hate to see it swamp conversations here.

To be fair that's also the point where we moved away from importing English GGs

Oh, attested facts, pfft. ;-)

Yeah, nah the list of Governors and GGs doesn't bear out your argument. In…

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/20/why-did-lavabit-shut-down-snowden-email

English did that openly in a Radio NZ interview about going in to bat for US interests at TPPA negotiations. Poor dears need all the tenderness we can administer.

how do we know that?
might have even taken advantage of it.

It’s made particularly pertinent by last month’s events – the NSA knew about the Heartbleed bug and was actively exploiting it – as a result of 5-eyes the GCSB must…

I remember some uncertainty and intrigue in the news around who would replace Sir Anand prior to Key appointing Mataparae.

With the many able…

"Mr Banks told him he had told the Prime Minister about a New Year's fireworks display"

is not the same as

"he has never spoken to me about going to fireworks".?

If your comprehension is that woeful , good luck with…

no Pete. Trying to hold the powerless to account is a tired ruse that demeans all who undertake it. Tis not a level playing field.

I think you're trying to make a lot more out of this than the known evidence supports.

It could have been:
Banks: Do you want to come to Dotcom's…

There's nothing radical or novel about trying to hold everyone…

Mr Dotcom claimed in court Mr Key had heard about him because Mr Banks told him he had told the Prime Minister about a New Year's fireworks display being put on by Mr Dotcom.

Mr Key said he had "no idea what John Banks said to…

you really don't understand power much, do you, Pete.

Most of us hold governments and others with significant influence to higher standards than others. We expect more accountability and better oversight because history has taught us that power tends to be abused if it's unchecked.…

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11259123

It's also nonsense on the facts of the matter. Fletcher was back working for the sunny state of Queensland while the surveillance took place. It would be more plausible…

Thanks for swinging by, Paul. You may well be right, and I could have been clearer in saying that I'm not dismissing what you say. It would certainly explain a few…

I may be going over the edge with conspiracy here, but now that he's been shunted into what's meant to be such a…

are you suggesting he said no, hence trouble thereafter?

How about CPAC/movie mogul cronyism? Its all in the TPPA and how you hold your…

"... over claims that Fletcher, who was shoulder-tapped by Key to head the bureau, was hired to help facilitate the FBI raid on Kim Dotcom's mansion"

– but the programme never made any such "claim". You only have to actually watch it and be able to listen.…

"Trust me. There's nothing to see here folks... moving right along."

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10068990/Key-knocks-Campbell-conspiracy-theories

+1. I have always thought this.

No, he was a very able head of NZDF and well-respected.

[edit: except by Jon Stephenson ;-) ]

Seriously, if he has a bad memory then we don't want him running the country, surely it is one of the basic requirements for such a job.

I'm not sure if it quite amounts to that, but Mataparae was certainly [[http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL1104/S00150/has-gov-general-designate-jerry-mateparae-misled-the-nation.htm|under pressure over his responsibility for the…

That alone is a very important function. All too often we have political stuffups and scandal in years one and two that are conveniently forgotten by the time it comes to choose the next government.

Only tells lies in the first two…

Over on The Standard they're claiming it's his tell, how you can tell he's lying (I figure more likely it has something to do with his lips moving) – I guess you…

The question is will this story result in any real change?
From the posts here it would seem that many of us neither believe nor trust…

once in a while

Like the Winebox?

Is there no mechanism for a "question on notice" or require an undertaking for the PM to actually make some enquiries with departments etc to find out actual information?

By abusing the respect too many kiwis have for his office.

Fortunately that respect is eroding, along with deference generally, limiting his ability to pull such stunts in future. And the more he does it, the faster it erodes.

http://youtu.be/oTI1zuUbHm8

I dunno.

But there is a weird standard of proof that in all this stuff.

Everyone has to make their own call obviously, but for me it comes down to this. We need intelligence services, and they will operate in…

Damn good question. When someone in a position of power is demonstrably lying, I expect the checks and balances in the system (in this case, opposition and media) to do their fricken jobs and call him on it.

that and conveniently leaving out parts of the timeline that don't suit Farrar's spin.

– He has admitted that *both* meetings with Fletcher were organised by his office.

– But he insists he didn’t discuss the GCSB role at all with Fletcher at the breakfast meeting.

– Asked about his false statement that…

at the behest of the US, which wanted to refocus its intelligence activity towards the protection of intellectual property interests

This is the pattern of everything we have seen coming out of the US for at least a decade. The power they are seeking, and have achieved, over all internet…

His complete dismissiveness all but screams Campbell is onto something which the story alludes to but hasn't quite nailed yet – I doubt we the public will ever know the real story but…

Random thought crossed with a genuine question: Was there some pressing reason to move Mateparae…

This, more than anything else, will keep the story alive. Is he really…

Oath – it also show a distasteful…

@CampbellLiveNZ
@TrevorMallard No. He became @GovGeneralNZ deservedly & in good faith. But, after his departure, the job description & the GCSB changed.

No argument there — but it's just as important that journalists don't "grossly over-reach" as the Prime Minister groks the wisdom in the old saw it's better to keep…

Looking…

And then thrown away by Key?

And then, and only then, was Fletcher on a new, one-person, shortlist?

Especially if the move away from military type experience is part of a 'growing up process'. A lot of condescension from Finny in…

That’s useful. But it doesn’t explain the lies and evasiveness around the circumstances of his appointment, if it was simply a shoulder-tapping of a highly-qualified New Zealander.

It also seems to represent a really remarkable degree of disorganisation to have…

Proved the latter but only implied the former. Yet.

Yes. It's one thing for a PM to decline to talk about security matters (as they have all done), but another to flat-out lie instead. Struck me he's not very good…

Yes it implies that should have extra, independent oversight, rather than less – organisations like this need to have whistle blowers standing there looking…

And that's the fundamental problem with secret agencies: the secrecy…

Ta. Fixed.