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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Big props to <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7486797/Slip-devastates-couples-quake-hit-cottage" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this Lyttelton couple</a> for their equanimity in the face of adversity.</p><p>ETA: if you want to see a large mudflow in action, try <a href="http://blogs.agu.org/landslideblog/2012/08/13/do-watch-this-probably-the-best-ever-debris-flow-video-from-austria-last-week/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> .  [warning: may scare your pants off!]</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:51:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						I'm told the smart money in Christchurch is going into beers, burgers, brothels and building.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:45:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>To be fair, it's a huge job</p><p>Being an army of occupation usually is.</q><br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7483671/Drunk-quake-workers-spark-disorder" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">It has its stresses.</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:33:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<q>To be fair, it's a huge job</q>Being an army of occupation usually is.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 13:27:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>To be fair, it’s a huge job.</q></p><p>Of course it's a huge job.  I just want to know which bit of it they're doing.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:20:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						To be fair, it's a huge job.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:14:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Buggered if I know what CERA actually spends its time doing.  If they're not making policy and they're not seeing what's going on in the community.  And they didn't write the Blueprint, they got in a team for that.  So, what?  Serious question.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:35:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Their Minister doesn't believe in heritage so why would they waste time having a policy about it?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:50:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p>Can anyone believe that </p><p><q>Cera did not have any specific policy for heritage buildings in blueprint areas but would "certainly" consider a building's heritage value when deciding whether it could be retained</q> [ [[Cera did not have any specific policy for heritage buildings in blueprint areas but would "certainly" consider…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:44:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>Still in use by hospitals, banks, supermarkets apparently.</q></p><p>Huh.  Groovy. :-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:04:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>Those flyingfox (excellent name for it) and hydraulic tube cash transfer/receipt systems existed into the v.early 1970s-</q></p><p>Dunedin had one in Penroses until 1993 I think &ndash; my first year in Dunedin and I purchased a hat there. Was possibly the coolest thing I ever saw. The building is now…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:55:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						The siren calling our volunteer firefighters has just gone, again.  They've had a busy night.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 06:31:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						Take good care down there. Apparently a big part of the trouble at a highway interchange not far from here on July 21 was pretty similar &ndash; so much rain falling in the river that it flowed back up the storm water drains. Keep an eye on that and stay…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:44:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>Damn. You need a sucker truck now. Ring them first thing: 7am. Good luck tonight.</p><p>Just saw this advice elsewhere: "Ring the council on the 0800 number and press option 4 they will send a sucker truck to clean sewer". Some of those people work all night.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:37:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Oh Isabel.  My heartfelt sympathy.  :-(
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:08:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>O struth!<br />Still no decent reticulation?<br />That is a total indictment of the local council (yeah, we know, Parker &amp; co have always had functioning loos and f888 all you little people- ooo, I can see why citoyens gleefully followed tumbrils-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:04:36 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q> would love a labyrinth – grass, gravel or pounamu – somewhere beautiful for walking, pacing, contemplating, singing, or sitting in the sun any time. A good Gap Filler?</q></p><p>O yes...bring in the birds, and the bush, and the wounded stones, and let the place, and empathetic humans...make it all be-…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:00:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Isabel Hitchings</title>
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						It is disgusting out there. 20cm of water on our drive and probably worse on the street. Storm water going the wrong way so the toilet won't drain and bubbles ominously. We rang the council who recommended sealing it with gladwrap and a brick. We have the chemical loo on…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:56:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>One of my whanau ending-message salutations is, "Stay warm &amp; well &amp; dry!"<br />Be it so Lilith-</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q> – a someone who has dwelt in leaky houses for the past 42 years-</q></p><p>Oh dear!<br />Thanks, Islander.<br />The rain’s eased off a bit, and buckets and towels in position, so I’m not so worried.  As long as we don’t slide off the hill….</p><p>I keep thinking of that house…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:38:27 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Sorry to hear that Lilith  &ndash; a someone who has dwelt in leaky houses for the past 42 years-<br />*buckets<br />*plastic sheeting<br />*newspapers<br />*sqeegees</p><p>= all can be used in ingenious ways</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:18:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Crapola.  EQ-damaged house now leaking in the heavy rain.  Do not like.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 22:03:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I had a look at that Christchurch City Libraries site and I must say I was more than a little gobsmacked at their pricing…<br /><q>Pricing<br />Electronic delivery of image $20.40 per image<br />Image delivered on CD $30.70 per image</q><br />Does that include GST?<br />Even if it does, assuming a file…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:17:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gudrun Gisela</title>
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						Priceless.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:35:36 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>My God, the Chinese Scotsman. I had totally forgotten him. Weird.</p><p>I NEVER have! He used to bike down Pages Road when we were going school (Aranui HS), kilt aflap and the ribbons on his cap aflying &ndash; never stopped. Never talked to anyone. Just wonderfully &ndash; was-</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:29:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>Googled It:<br /> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=138662648367" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=138662648367</a><br />My God, the Chinese Scotsman. I had totally forgotten him. Weird.</p><p>This pic is before my time, but you can just see the Dainty Inn script above the cafe.<br /><a href="http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/heritage/photos/disc16/IMG0070.asp" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://christchurchcitylibraries.com/heritage/photos/disc16/IMG0070.asp</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:11:48 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>the Dainty Inn.</q></p><p>Crikey, there's a name!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:56:19 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p><q>You don’t mean Java, Hebe?</q></p><p>No , on the site of East's bookshop. Beloved tells me now it was the Dainty Inn.</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>hydraulic tube cash transfer/receipt systems existed into the v.early 1970s</q></p><p>Lamson tubes. Ballantynes used them. We had them as newspaper subs to send copy to the printers, and they would send bits and pieces back. Some tubes had a open end with a big metal clip in side to hold…</p>
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						<p><q>Do you remember that cafe in High Street near the Cashel corner? It had orange vinyl and an order system on a wire thing like a flying fox across the roof.</q></p><p>You don't mean Java, Hebe?</p><p><q>Those flyingfox (excellent name for it) and hydraulic tube cash transfer/receipt systems existed into…</q></p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>there’s been local ceremonies but – nothing area-wide.<br />It is – difficult to deal with all matters unless a re-balancing has been achieved.</q></p><p>Quite. Re-balancing is the word: to re-store our spirits, re-balance our psyches. I used the word tangi because I think a way of living in Aotearoa has…</p>
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						<p>Hebe, Fail’s was where we kids were on best behaviour/s – wasnt in a paper-wrapping really good fishnchips!<strong> Almost as good as our Nana’s battered blue cod!<br />Last time the family was there was for our Uncle Bill’s 70th birthday*. Bloody good night-</p><p>*1987<br /></strong>And delicious stuff we hadnt eaten…</p>
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						<p><q>The town needs a blessing, a release, a lifting of the shroud. Lots of singing, weeping and karakia; a tangi and a celebration?</q></p><p>It really does, it really really does-</p><p>there's a couple of things being bruited around the kumara-vine and both of them do  concern this matter-<br />there's been…</p>
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						<q>slander, Do you remember that cafe in High Street near the Cashel corner? It had orange vinyl and an order system on a wire thing like a flying fox across the roof. I would love to live somewhere with some character left; there’s fuck all in this place. I’d much…</q>
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						<p><q>little boys in charge</q></p><p>-sausages have no brains...</p>
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						Even the girls are men down here.
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						southern 'man'
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						<p><q>Lots of singing, weeping and karakia<br />Rugby match then </q(Derisive snort) The nearest a real Kiwi bloke and blokess gets to emotion eh?</p>
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						<p><q>Lots of singing, weeping and karakia</q></p><p>Rugby match then #allyouget</p>
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						<q>or fishnchips at Fail’s</q>That was for grown-ups in our house. Never found out why.
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						<p>Hay's: had the most amazing 1960s cafe upstairs that survived until sometime in the early 90s. It was areal piece; I must find out about it. </p><p>Islander, Do you remember that cafe in High Street near the Cashel corner? It had orange  vinyl and an order system on a wire…</p>
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						<p><q>I was rather hoping that the basement cafe would stay like it has been for a thousand years</q></p><p>Me too.<br />As a young kid a millenium ago, there were those three treats &ndash; afternoon tea at Ballantyne's or Hay's, or fishnchips at Fail's-</p>
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						<q>Ballantyne's is moving into the private prison business?</q> Well, there could be plans for the dungeon downstairs to maximise returns, but what I meant is that the justice precinct is ideally placed for a quick trot through the bus exchange to Bally's back door on Lichfield st for a short…
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						Ballantyne's is moving into the private prison business?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:01:23 +1200</pubDate>
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						<q> the justice precinct, </q> .... will secure the Ballantyne's customer base for the next century.
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						hmmm.... it'll make it much quicker and more efficient for the police and courts to process shoplifters.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>The idea of a "Justice Precinct" indeed sounds very Judge Dredd. </p><p>Indeed:<br /><q> "Since the abolition of democratic government in Canterbury in 2011, Mega-City 03 has been a dictatorship run by CERA. ... Its ruler is Chief Judge Gerry Brownlee. He is accountable to nobody. The citizens are permitted to have…</q></p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>just how much the National Party has in common with the CCP, especially in its attitude to its subjects.</q><br />How about the <a href="http://ccdu.govt.nz/what-we-are-doing/justice-and-emergency-services-precinct" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">justice precinct</a>, touted as "stimulating recovery by supporting retail and commercial activity in the central area." Kind of a combination of vacation lands for lawyers in love, with…</p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						The plan, such as it is, makes it into the <a href="http://design.newsccn.com/2012-08-10/163995.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chinese media</a>. Fortunately it leaves English names in English &ndash; Chinese transliterations can be quite hard to decipher, so this makes googling companies like Populous (<a href="http://populous.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">these people? wah, big stadiums!</a>), Woods Bagot (<a href="http://www.woodsbagot.com/en/Pages/default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here?</a>), Boffa Miskell (<a href="http://www.boffamiskell.co.nz/introduction.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">oh, a New Zealand firm?</a>)…
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				<title>Gudrun Gisela</title>
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						Thank you so much for this Steve. I am no longer surprised in the mess we find ourselves in.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:42:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Why he still holds the position he does when failing so badly is beyond explanation i swear.</q><br />It's called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> the Peter Principal</a></p>
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				<title>Gudrun Gisela</title>
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						<p>I don’t know how these people sleep at night.</p><p><br />Millions in the bank and a holiday just  around the corner. A few minutes in the rain no trouble. Why he still holds the position he does when failing so badly is beyond explanation i swear.</p>
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						<p><q> the cheese cutter/cloth cap</q> It’s Garry Moore. </p><p>Poor people; so desperate they are willing to go out in the rain and cold because they have no other way to be heard. Simpson et al adopt civil servant posture number 63(b): I am listening, I feel your pain, I understand, and…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>in the crowd</q><br />sorry, that cap don't fit, this time<br />(that may've been Garry Moore)<br />I was far from that maddened crowd<br />good on them, though...</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>Thought it might have been Ian Dalziel in the crowd, only because of the cheese cutter/cloth cap</q></p><p>By their caps ye shall know them. ;-)</p><p>Or should that be BY THEIR CAPS?</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Cr Tim Carter asks for answers from EQC about their priorites.</q></p><p>And Campbell Live last night followed up on the protest outside EQC and then onto IAG. Thought it might have been Ian Dalziel in the crowd, only because of the cheese cutter/cloth cap upon the head of the man…</p>
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						Unfortunately Gerry Brownlee keeps telling us the market will take care of itself. It wont.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:05:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>In the streets around my neighborhood of St Albans there is  a huge increase of houses for sale. Seems as soon as a house is repaired it goes up for sale and the people take off like scared birds. </q></p><p>Now that is another worry. Once the market reaches a certain…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Cr Tim Carter <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7442329/EQC-doing-easy-fixes-to-boost-numbers-councillor" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">asks for answers from EQC about their priorites</a>.  It's common knowledge that houses with minor damage are getting repaired first, and I'd love to see EQC stand up and explain how this can possibly be a good solution.
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						O! That is so <em>good</em>!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:55:00 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Hot off the press by Joe Wylie.<br /><a href="http://porcupinefarm.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/a-funny-thing-happened.html?spref=fb" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://porcupinefarm.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/a-funny-thing-happened.html?spref=fb</a></p>
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						<p>I hope not . The idea of producing a rail system  for people who might never live here seems absurd. The fear of another quake for one and   the fiasco of being unable to insure buildings  is a reason why so many are selling up and leaving town.<br />In the…</p>
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						There's a <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/334730616618029/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">FB group for saving the Ng Gallery</a>.
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						<p><q>there’re now 4+ of us eh?) who cherish our motu, wish to nourish our best ideals, and give much more than we take</q></p><p>And counting! :-)</p><p>Thanks Sacha for pulling up that section about action.<br />And particularly this:<br /><q>And it’s also worth remembering that there are lots of people feeling…</q></p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>the Greedies will NOT win!</q></p><p>Hear hear!</p>
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						<p><q>the lack of idealism, altruism, or signs that we can and should build something of more than commercial value. </q></p><p> -from politicians and other so-called civic leaders: Lilith's link was well worth the reading &ndash; but disheartening.</p><p>BUT &ndash; there's all the rest of us, from our host on this site…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Both well worth reading.<br />The thing that startles and saddens me- again and again in today's NZ- is the lack of idealism, altruism, or signs that we can and should build something of more than commercial value. <br />All too often, the barren reductive nature of the debate itself is dispiriting.…</p>
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						<p><q>Brilliantly written, and worth reading the rest</q></p><p>+1. Agree with this sentiment too:</p><p><q>The better option, of course, is to organise and respond. A group of people who have a pretty clear objective – no matter how apparently minor – that involves provoking a bit of a ‘slip’ in the…</q></p>
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						And ripped from a tweet of Jackson's : <a href="http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/jamie-mcgregor-smith-athens" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the remains of the 2004 Athens Olympics sports facilities</a>.  Something for Chch to think about.
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						<p>A very detailed and interesting response to the Plan from <a href="http://www.thepoliticalscientist.org/?p=913" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Political Scientist</a>.</p><p><q>Monday night last week was like Christmas Eve in Christchurch.</p><p>As the evening darkened, the presents – carefully wrapped and prettily presented by the best PR Christmas wrappers CERA could buy – were lain beneath the brightly…</q></p>
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						<p>Good morning Steve, your advice above about concrete pills cheered me greatly.  </p><p>Bother action certainly can work: at one time in my distant pass when I lived and worked in Auckland the Auckland City workers were taking industrial action and meeting in the town hall for discussion.  After the usual…</p>
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						<p>An anecdotal friend of a friend of my neighbours cousin once sent 999 (for that were the maximum that you could) black pages from a computer to a company that owed him money, for work done. The fax machine malfunctioned and set fire to the building.<br />Not that anyone in…</p>
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						<p><strong>What goes around...</strong><br /><q>Fuck their fax machines with black faxes.</q><br />The moebius fax or just a taped loop, works well also...<br />:- )</p>
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						<p><q>It’s cold, it’s August.</q></p><p>There is no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing… Sir Rannulph Fiennes said that, apparently.<br />And…<br />To paraphrase <a href="http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Martin Niemöller</a>…<br />First they came for the Cantabrians, but it was a bit nippy.</p><p>Concrete pills all round I reckon, get yer game face…</p>
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						Back in February, indignation over Town Clerk/CEO Marryatt's pay rise had over 4000 rallying outside Council HQ. Council management's response was to authorise an $80,000 "audit" of their own communications performance. Today Marryatt failed to attend a <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7431487/Marryatt-a-no-show-at-communication-workshop" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"workshop"</a> where councillors who were never consulted on the decision to commission the…
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						<p><q>It feels like a lot of people are completely over being ignored and know it is pointless.</q></p><p>People can be very smart like that. Show some resourceful, coherent leadership that has a realistic chance of making a difference and they'll back it. Otherwise, more pressing needs closer to home will…</p>
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						<p><q>I think any political pressure we can generate is a good thing. The erosion of democratic rights affects all of us, not just Christchurch people.</q> Agreed, with bells on.  It could just as easily have been / or could still be Dunedin.  </p><p>What I keep coming back to is the…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>MPs are elected; Cera /CCDU isn’t. They answer to no-one bar Big Ger.</q></p><p>I think any political pressure we can generate is a good thing.  The erosion of democratic rights affects all of us, not just Christchurch people.</p>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p>MPs are elected; Cera /CCDU isn't. They answer to no-one bar Big Ger.</p><p>Hey Sofie, it's not all bad here, just a lot of knots these days. And certainties are a thing of the past.</p>
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						<p><q>As Emma said, everyone is knackered. It’s cold, it’s August.</q></p><p>Ok I gettit. I'll get back to yous in December and see how it's working out for yas ;)</p><p>For what it's worth, I continually email lots of MPs. If I have a question that's what I generally do. Surprisingly,…</p>
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						At the right time. No point questioning now; we've been told what will happen. Most of us have read the glossy mailout, the plan in the paper and on the net and tv. Our specific questions will not be answered, we know that from experience, so why go? We told…
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				<title>Ed Muzik</title>
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						<p><q>Exhaustion? It’s been nearly two years, Leigh. Quite a lot of us are knackered.</q></p><p>I'd also argue that going to a meeting to talk to planners who will probably not answer direct questions such as "do you know how much this stadium will cost" or "has anyone done a feasibility…</p>
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						Hi Emma and Lilith, I absolutely get the exhaustion factor and the 'how much more can we be expected to bear' factor.  Just hope to cheer you people on, and to say I'm with you on this one.  Lilith, great idea.  I'd thought of that and will do so: Claire…
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						Out-of-towners who want to support our struggles might consider writing or emailing their MP.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>What's up, people?</q></p><p>Exhaustion? It's been nearly two years, Leigh. Quite a lot of us are <em>knackered</em>.</p>
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						<p><q>As Lockwood Smith keeps telling Parliament, “Ask the right questions”. It’s not like there will be door knocking to see if you like it.</q></p><p>They're not asking for feedback or submissions at all.  CERA is not accountable to us.</p><p>Tens of thousands of people made submissions for Share an Idea,…</p>
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						Gotta agree with Leigh there.
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						<p><q>It’s not an opportunity to be part of the decision-making, it’s just a Q and A.</q><br />How frustrating!  In my wishful dreaming I imagine several thousand people turning up each standing up one after the other and saying things like “My question is ‘where are my democratic rights to be…</p>
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						<p><q>It’s not an opportunity to be part of the decision-making, it’s just a Q and A.</q></p><p>Um isn’t that precisely what people should be doing ? As Lockwood Smith keeps telling Parliament, “Ask the right questions”. It’s not like there will be door knocking to see if you like it.…</p>
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						<p><q> the first public meeting about the new plan</q></p><p>It's not an opportunity to be part of the decision-making, it's just a Q and A.</p><p><q>Sue Sutherland turned up with several questions, including whether the central library building could be incorporated into the new blueprint.</p><p>She was told it would be…</q></p>
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				<title>Leigh Russell</title>
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						The paucity of people at <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7426086/CBD-meeting-draws-good-questions-but-few-people " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> this public meeting</a> is dismaying.  It's the first public meeting about the new plan. Fewer than 25 attended???  What's up, people?
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						Hello Ian, yes, how dramatic!!!  Haven't seen any live footage yet, but look forward to it.  <a href="http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/1197/home " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> This site banner</a> is the most exciting I've come across in terms of eruption footage, and although it's used on an Auckland site I don't think the imagery is of NZ volcanoes.
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						<p><strong>NZ gets the ashes...</strong><br /><q>...eruptions of the volcanic variety!!</q><br />Ask and you shall receive &ndash; <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7428251/Mt-Tongariro-eruption-cancels-flights" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tongariro has erupted overnight</a>  and White Island is on alert... oh the joys of living in dynamic world, eh!</p>
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						It would be a matter of supreme irony if the building owned and occupied by Alice's in Videoland was demolished: it was one of the few buildings to survive the earthquakes in fine good style, having been 'over-engineered' in the wake of the Napier earthquake of 1931.  The surrounding buildings…
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						<p><q>Where’s the cheap-rent neighbourhood where creativity can thrive? Don’t tell me, in a special newly built area with an eruv around it and “Creativity Quarter” signage.</q><br />Look for the Innovation precinct on <a href="http://ccdu.govt.nz/sites/ccdu.govt.nz/files/documents/christchurch-central-recovery-plan.pdf " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> The Plan of The Blueprint</a>!  I'm not joking!  I don't know what to think about that…</p>
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						<p><q>Henderson still had his Russian MiG fighter jet stored in the old Electrolux complex until its recent sale by receivers </q></p><p>So, a garage then. ;)<br />I actually love old buildings, just thought the CCCouncil mightn't. Or as you said insurance did not reflect it's purchase value.<br />Here is one I…</p>
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						<p><q>You’d be silly to build it and not put a roof on it.</q></p><p>We did <a href="http://www.vbase.co.nz/venues/ami-stadium/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">that</a> already.  Yes, it’s supposed to be temporary.  And note it’s currently run as a charity.  And it’s been running well under the 18,000 capacity.  Couldn't we just put a roof on this one?*</p><p>*naive…</p>
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						<p><q>It looks frigging heinous to me</q></p><p>They've come up with a whole bunch of innovative ideas, which is a lot more than our planners have.  Doesn't mean these particular ideas would suit Chch, but we could think up some of our own!  Creativity doesn't have to be a low-rent thing…</p>
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						<p>Chch has an opportunity to learn from Dunedin's stadium experience, which I feel is mixed (others such as Paul are more anti).</p><p>The insurance payout and the population will help make it financially more viable. Simply put, Dunedin's stadium is a large drain on not enough people.<br />You'd be silly…</p>
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						<p>It looks frigging heinous to me. Give me Wellington anyday.</p><p>Where's the cheap-rent neighbourhood where creativity can thrive? Don't tell me, in a special newly built area with an eruv around it and "Creativity Quarter" signage.</p>
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						<p>Just picking this out of RB's twitter feed:</p><p><a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/cities-as-gadgets-8-features-this-brand-new-city-has-that-yours-doesnt.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cities as Gadgets: 8 Features This Brand-New City Has That Yours Doesn't</a></p><p>Interesting stuff.</p>
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						<p><strong>Dungers and Dragoons...</strong><br /><q>The old cruddy vandalised building was <br />obviously rubbish before the Quakes</q><br />I don't believe it was <em>that</em> cruddy, it was a pretty solid looking viable stove manufacturing plant prior to Hendo/Council's stewardship &ndash; in fact Henderson still had [[http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/3722205/Henderson-unwilling-to-let-MiG-jet-go-to-auction-house|his Russian MiG fighter jet stored in the old…</p>
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						<p><q>Good money after bad…</q></p><p>So, $4.9 mil , 577k , just doing the math .  Who loses here again?The old cruddy vandalised building was obviously rubbish before the Quakes. (and I bet they knew it)</p><p>As far as Stadiums, concerts etc goes, if there is more than one asset for…</p>
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						<p><strong>Good money after bad...</strong><br /><q>Pitching one council-owned asset against another...</q><br />Speaking of which, the $4.9 million asset 'we' acquired off  l'il Davey Henderson, went <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7420287/Welles-St-building-neglected-before-fire" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">up in smoke at the weekend,</a> I note in the comments that:<br /><q>According to the CCC Insurance schedule it was insured for $577K Demolition Value.</q><br />I…</p>
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						A couple of unconnected thoughts that popped up over the weekend. First, the proposed stadium is meant to be a great venue for concerts. But unlike Dunedin &ndash; which has only had the one big concert and don't have any more on the horizon &ndash; Christchurch still has other indoor…
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						<p>I'm well aware of the context, thanks. This govt and their parties deserve credit for some things, but not the one you suggested, that's all. </p><p>I'm certainly not offended by disagreement. Certainly am by some of the stuff that's being done (and not done) in our name, regardless of ideology.…</p>
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						<q>I want people in this city to work together, bringing their own perspectives and strengths to create something better than before. For that to work we are all (and I definitely include me because I can be great at smart comments without being constructive) going to have to show generosity…</q>
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						My politics: a Green who wants results, and who knows and respects people who sit on most parts of the political spectrum. I’m not offended at all; I want people in this city to work together, bringing their own perspectives and strengths to create something better than before. For that…
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						<q>Lilith and Sacha: This is not and was not an ideological game. I repeat: It is not generally understood yet how very close Christchurch was to a complete economic collapse in the months after February. Start with that premise and detail what you would do better. And how about a…</q>
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						Lilith and Sacha: This is not and was not an ideological game. I repeat: It is not generally understood yet  how very close Christchurch was to a complete economic collapse in the months after February. Start with that premise and detail  what you would do better. And how about  a…
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						<p><q>while I’m sure the short-term business subsidies were vital, it wasn’t exactly rocket-science to see that they were needed</q><br />snap</p>
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						<p><q>the business subsidy was brave and bold</q></p><p>'Brave' suggests the (business) folk they listen to were opposing it. As if. </p><p>Intervening in the failed post-quake residential housing market against the urgings of neolib acolytes and foreign insurers and bankers &ndash; now that might deserve the term. These are timid boys…</p>
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						<p><q>Key, English and Joyce, and Brownlee’s business-type approach of “Here’s the problem. Deal to it” worked perfectly.</q></p><p>John Key’s disaster response:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHEfqjcwyKE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHEfqjcwyKE</a></p><p>And while I’m sure the short-term business subsidies were vital, it wasn’t exactly rocket-science to see that they were needed.</p><p>IMHO all kudos to the council workers and…</p>
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						Some people have no sense of adventure :-)
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						<p>Don't agree. We need both. No use having fixed homes and no jobs, and the reverse is equally true. </p><p>It is not generally understood yet ( spelt out clearly in the Press CBD feature yesterday  for the first time that I can recall) how very close Christchurch was to a…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Steve: the million litres as I understand it was for EQR (the Fletchers subsidiary) </q></p><p>I thought it rather disingenuous of Brownpants to answer a question like"What are you doing about the rebuild of Christchurch" with "Well, we bought some paint"<br />Sheesh.</p>
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						<p><q>Hi Russell, I’ve come to this discussion rather late in the piece. I love these descriptions of drama in the landscape juxtaposed with the day-to-day reality of Auckland’s hum of increasing development and the enjoy-as-you-go attitude of the locals! </q></p><p>I had fun explaining New Zealand's geological hazards to my friend's…</p>
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						<p>Steve: the million litres as I understand it was for EQR (the Fletchers subsidiary) which is repairing homes under the $100k damage cap on behalf of EQC. EQC does not deal with commercial properties (which is most of the CBD). Sorry about the acronymitis.</p><p>I'm in awe of your calculating…</p>
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						<p><q>It has been suggested above that the housing situation is a red herring in relation to the planned CBD.  I disagree.  The central city belongs to the people of Christchurch, and many of these people are being treated very badly indeed, so their annoyance is to be expected.</q></p><p>Yes, this.</p>
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						<p><q> I think it says a lot about this government’s view on “green” issues – people called for a “green city” through share an idea, and so the government is saying “look – we listened!</q><br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7327736/Govt-needs-5-million-litres-of-paint-for-quake-repairs " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Govt needs 5 million litres of paint for quake repairs</a><br />A rough calculation reveals…</p>
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						<p>A nice opinion piece <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/7417889/Rebuild-needs-a-rethink" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">from Rod Oram</a>.</p><p><q>Lots of people in Christchurch want sustainability. But the council and the Government will do nothing to help achieve that beyond "encouraging" property developers to improve energy efficiency. Failure is certain, because existing New Zealand building codes, energy efficiency standards, designs and materials…</q></p>
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						<p><q>An Auckland volcanic eruption is basically everyone in the region GTFO, with, hopefully, a few weeks’ notice. From Auckland Uni’s geology department:</p><p>    Shock waves from an eruption will break windows and flatten buildings, fiery fountains of lava will set structures and trees ablaze, and base surges – a ground-hugging, deadly…</q></p>
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						I'm very concerned about the absence of the democratic process in the development of these plans.  Certainly submissions have been taken into consideration initially, but the forthcoming process seems to require nil involvement with the Christchurch constituency, an old-fashioned term, that.  New Zealand is not a corporation, it's a democratic…
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						<p>I remember the halcyon days when merely widening a road in Chch took 20 years of debate!!</p><p>That sort of consultation is arguably too slow.  But we got a decision that was carefully crafted. :-)</p>
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						<p><q>“Christchurch just fits in the middle.</p><p>“Same with the rugby stadium. Eden Park is 50,000 to 60,000 people, Wellington 34,000. It’s 20,000 or so down in Dunedin. So OK, Christchurch is our second biggest city, let’s make it 35,000.”</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth_Barr_Stadium" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dunedin is 30,000</a>, actually.  And disastrously too big and expensive.</p><p>The…</p>
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						<p><q>so people understand what they can influence</q></p><p>Interesting discussion to have.</p>
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						<p><q>Most of these may have been asked and answered. Possibly in this thread :) A quick list of 'what I'd like to know' before deciding on how good this plan is.</q></p><p>Many have. I'll pick a few of the simpler ones. </p><p><q>Why should we build a convention centre? Why should…</q></p>
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						You’ve nailed the questions we really need answered, and replied to (and re-asked when the answer is not adequate).  Distribute them widely please Rob.  You have it too?  You need down time: enjoy that harbour and the sun.
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						<p><q>I do find merit in lots of it.</q><br />I probably will too. When I get over being turned off by the slick advertorial video…. :)<br />Best of luck with the lurgi. A lot of it about. Codral is helping here!</p>
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						I know what you are saying….but I differ in that I do find merit in lots of it. I would like the drivers and rationale behind all these big plans more widely understood in this city, so people understand what they can influence. I see lots of opportunity; it’s a…
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						<p>Some basic questions:<br />Most of these may have been asked and answered. Possibly in this thread :) A quick list of 'what I'd like to know' before deciding on how good this plan is. <br />Convention centre.<br />Why should we build a convention centre? Why should residents pay for it?<br />Why…</p>
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						I have the luxury of stepping away from this, so I will. Dont want to drag those positive about it down. and I can't find merit in any of it so I will bow out.
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						<p><q> And we wouldn’t have to spend megabucks on a new library if the convention centre wasn’t plonked on top of a perfectly repairable old one.</q></p><p>I think the picture is quite clear, don't you? It is not about the people at all. Amy Adams did her best to hide that…</p>
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						PS And we wouldn’t have to spend megabucks on a new library if the convention centre wasn’t plonked on top of a perfectly repairable old one.
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						<p>From today’s Feature in the Press;<br /><q>Their first priorities were the siting of the convention centre and a landscaping of the Avon to remove the building clutter, making the river once again visible as the sculptural spine of the town.</q></p><p>So who made those the priorities? Why is a dedicated…</p>
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						<p><q>Fran O’Sullivan obviously didn’t realise her Kool Aid was the Ken Kesey recipe ;-) Oh the swirls! The colours! The ideas!</q></p><p>My Uncle was friends with that dude. I suspect any relation connection to Fran O'Sullivan witterings on would be an insult of the highest order. :)</p>
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						<p><q>And I totally agree with Rob above about the billion-buck monuments. I can spot a major case of legacy disease.</q></p><p>Something Ian Athfield could see and quickly distanced himself from.</p>
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						<p><q>She learnt her city planning from the Beijing Municipal Government? "Heritage? Fetch me ten thousand migrant workers and give them a sledgehammer each!"</q></p><p>I was thinking more Chase Corporation mirror-glass.</p>
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						<p>Sustainable? Cutting edge? Green. It is fucking not. It is, however Canadian and Australian-pension-fund-investor friendly, and that’s what really counts innit?</p><p>There’s a slight green tinge but it’s pragmatic: the river corridor park for instance is the land that be rebuilt upon without huge cost. The frame is a negotiable…</p>
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						<p>I can't even muster 'quite good' yet. Maybe I'll come round on a sunnier day :)<br />The convention centre in the square says clearly: we don't want you here. <br />The giant stadium is going to be largely empty- another massive subsidy (CCC put at least $85m into AMI stadium over…</p>
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						<p><q> In future years, if the central city started to bulge at the seams, this land could be released back to the market.</q></p><p>So, ticky tacky houses then, just in the future when all the assets are gone I imagine. I cant get my head around the buildings because I don't…</p>
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						<p><q>I’m recalling the nasty boring commercial mosntrosities dominating the skyline around the cbd</q></p><p>Yeah the taller ones will mostly be unlamented.</p>
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						<p><q> I do wonder why such an important set of decisions are being taken so swiftly.</q></p><p>I honestly believe that the biggest reason was the rhetorical appeal of "100 days" for the minister. The fact that this arbitrary deadline made the big launch clash with the Olympics opening (hence the embarrassing…</p>
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						Oh I lamented all the lovely old Manchester St, etc, buildings. However I'm recalling the nasty boring commercial mosntrosities dominating the skyline around the cbd.
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						<p><q>“Heritage? Fetch me ten thousand migrant workers and give them a sledgehammer each!”</q></p><p>Yes, that's exactly it. :-s</p><p>I think there may have been more old stuff in the CBD than you remember, Sacha.  We certainly cried over a lot of what have been described as "character" buildings after the…</p>
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						<p><q>many other maddening things in that article</q></p><p>Her last sentence is a beauty:</p><p><q>What if other New Zealand cities &ndash; particularly Auckland &ndash; were given the tools so they too could follow Christchurch's example and wipe the barriers that stymie economic growth?</q></p><p>Let's knock it all down everywhere so unambitious…</p>
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						<p><q>heritage-laden</q></p><p>She learnt her city planning from the Beijing Municipal Government? "Heritage? Fetch me ten thousand migrant workers and give them a sledgehammer each!"</p>
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						<p><q>I’m sorry, heritage-laden??</q></p><p>As if. Mainly drab modern fare even before the quakes.</p>
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						<p><q>That's a very honest opening sentence.</q></p><p>I must have missed more about the last word here unless O'Sullivan knows more than Isaacs does:</p><p><q>It is a stunner. Compact. Cutting edge. Green. Sustainable.</q></p>
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						<p>Christ on a cracker.  Does she know the origin of that phrase?</p><p>And foremost among many other maddening things in that article:</p><p><q>heritage-laden CBD epitomised by Cathedral Square is a thing of the past</q></p><p>I’m sorry, <em>heritage-laden??</em>  That’s one way of describing all the beauty and history Chch people are…</p>
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						Well. <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10824432" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">That's a very honest opening sentence</a>.
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						<p><q>Isaacs was surprised the use of “green technologies” was so popular, which was “good to know”.</q></p><p>I’m pretty sure this came up prominently in Share An Idea.  How many times do we have to say these things?</p><p>Also, thinking about the Plan and my feelings almost of panic about it,…</p>
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						<p><q>Essentially, the Crown would be landbanking property that in the long-term would be made a lot more valuable by Christchurch becoming a success. In future years, if the central city started to bulge at the seams, this land could be released back to the market.</q></p><p>Yes, my heart sank when…</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7413021/Green-city-initiatives-most-popular" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chch Press survey</a> about plan shows good support but some different priorities to the CCDU boss:</p><p><q> A Press poll asked 507 readers what they thought of the 100-day blueprint, their most and least favoured projects, what was missing, and when they envisaged the Christchurch rebuild would be complete.</p><p>More than…</q></p>
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						<p>And the Frame logic <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7413466/Plan-will-change-the-face-of-Christchurch" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">is confirmed</a>.</p><p><q> Miskell says this is where the advantage of having all the experts in the one place really showed. Cera's economics team could see angles that Blueprint's architects and urban planners could not imagine.</p><p>The economists said a much fatter park strip &ndash; one a…</q></p>
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						<p>and in case we're in any doubt about <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/7413466/Plan-will-change-the-face-of-Christchurch" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">who was in charge</a>..</p><p><q> Miskell can at last afford to relax after the "100 days" allowed his small group, co-led with Peter Marshall, managing director of Christchurch architects Warren and Mahoney, to re-invent a city.</p><p>A hundred days, Miskell scoffs. It was…</q></p>
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						<p><q>the three big ticket items – stadium, convention centre, metro sports hub – will come to 1.2 billion</q></p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/7412781/Big-three-have-1-2b-price-tag" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Press story here</a>.</p><p><q>The $1.2b price tag was about $720 million more than budgeted for in the city council's annual plan.</p><p>Coleman's source said the stadium would cost $506m, the convention centre…</q></p>
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						<p><q>And BTW it’s great to have you on PAS, Ed Muzik! Your long form is even better than your tweets. :-)</q></p><p>Cheers! I think people who read my tweets think I'm really angry and cynical ... which is probably true. But I also have a weekly column in the local…</p>
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						<p><q>Their age is indicative of the big picture of abandonment down there. It’s so wrong. Fuck this Government.</q></p><p>YES.</p><p>A government/social set-up that puts stadiums &amp; convention centres &amp; cathedrals ahead of thousands of devastated households  __who still dont<br />have good water supplies &amp;/or working loos &amp;/or functioning houses…which is THE priority &ndash; not…</p>
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						<p><q>like a classic rock radio station the hits just keep on coming</q></p><p>You said a bunch, andrew.</p>
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						<q>– people called for a “green city” through share an idea, and so the government is saying “look – we listened! Lots of parks!”. When actually as much, if not more, of the “green city” argument was around sustainability in a broad context – public transport options so we can…</q>
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						Well I just watched 3 News with regard Insurance peeps fronting up to Cantabrians. Some of the most conservative people I have seen in a long time. Almost tears. First time despair.Lots of elderly.I think they are feeling really alone. They need some sort of support now.  Their age is…
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						<p><q>people called for a "green city" through share an idea, and so the government is saying "look &ndash; we listened! Lots of parks!</q></p><p>Well, one big park, which is hardly the same thing. I'm delighted by the Avon park plan, but mixed-use central neighbourhoods and sustainable buildings seem to have…</p>
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				<title>Ed Muzik</title>
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						<p><q>Some of that protecting value would appear to be true but I reckon the frame is a landbank and sop to the green desires of the “make a wish” consultation.</q></p><p>I agree with the landbanking and the comment about playing to green desires. I think it says a lot about…</p>
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						Some of that protecting value would appear to be true but I reckon the frame is a landbank and sop to the green desires of the “make a wish” consultation. When that compacted core fills up, and I’m picking that won’t take too many decades – 10 to 15 years?…
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						<p><q>there are a huge number of amendments to the City Plan. Some are far-reaching</q></p><p>Can you spell some of them out for us. Haven't had time to read through that appendix yet.</p>
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						<p>Found <a href="http://thestandard.org.nz/gerrymania/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this take</a> on the Frame interesting (and sadly all too plausible):</p><p><q>The ‘frame’, the green space is nice but lets be honest about its purpose. The Christchurch CBD already had too much retail space before the earthquakes. With 10% of the population gone, the CBD doesn’t need to be…</q></p>
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						I agree with all of your comments. But, as ’everyone” says, the devil is in the detail. One detail is that the green frame is not a Hagley Park-type forever green space; the CCDU reserves the right to flog it off as deemed necessary; in other words a big landbank…
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						Thanks
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						<p>I like the green frame and the compact core. I like the greater space along the Avon. I like the precincts and the fact that most everything is within walking distance. </p><p>The argument that it does nothing for the suburbs is a red herring. This is the plan for the…</p>
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						Any particular aspects? Genuinely interested.
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						I like it. So does just about everyone I've talked with.
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						<p><q>A planned city ... Canberra. Enough said (for anyone who has ever tried living there).</q><br />Canberra. Shudder. On the other hand, I did just spend two years living in another planned city, Milton Keynes, and that was ... okay. But the thing that made living in MK bearable was that…</p>
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						<p>An interesting article in <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/where-the-brits-have-us-beaten-20120801-23fgj.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">today’s SMH</a> about the mistakes Sydney made with Homebush and Darling Harbour, which resonate with me in relation to the this Christchurch plan:</p><p><q>Like Darling Harbour, whose failure we now blame on the bicentenary rush, the Homebush development began with a development corporation concerned mainly with…</q></p>
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						While the Rebuild Plan looks good on paper, we'll just have to wait if it can answer the ultimate question: can it reverse the long-time mall-ification of ChCh?
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						<p><q>There is going to be a *lot* of opposition to a new cricket ground in Hagley Park. I’m half thinking it’s there as a sacrificial duck.</q></p><p>Undoubtedly. Every city plan needs a good lightning rod.</p>
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						<p><q>Pegasus land has yet to convince me; it’s a good distance from the faults that have gone so far</q></p><p>Brooklands, Pines Beach and Waikuku Beach all had severe damage.  OK Pegasus is further inland from the beach, but still.</p>
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						<p><q>the much touted success of Pegasus Town relative to its neighbours in the earthquakes, as a result of major groundworks prior to building</q></p><p>Pegasus land has yet to convince me; it's a good distance from the faults that have gone so far.  It would be interesting to see what happens…</p>
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						<p><q>I think Ben is right: now we know what the risks are, we can mitigate them.</q></p><p>It's a possibility, anyway. I don't really have an opinion about whether it's appropriate. It would be appropriate to research it, is the most I'd say.</p>
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						<p><q>crikey, that’s another layer</q></p><p>The layer that runs the actual buses :-)<br />(it's basically ECan)</p>
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						One party will probably pick up the bullhorn and tell the others how it will be. You can guess which one..
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						crikey, that's another layer.
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						You want them to talk to each other? Can't be done.
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						<p><q>ECan’s public transport plan</q></p><p><a href="http://www.metroinfo.co.nz/network-review.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Something more accessible here</a>.  2 days to go for anyone else wanting to give feedback (online feedback form, just follow my link).</p>
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						Found ECan's <a href="http://ecan.govt.nz/our-responsibilities/Regional-Land-Transport/Pages/regional-public-transport-plan.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">public transport plan</a> for the region, though I have no idea how this fits with the other transport plans from the Chch City Council and CERA.
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						<p><q>Idea is to make em easiest to fix/rebuild afterwards. Though that’s all relative.</q></p><p>“Ground repair”: making the ground more compacted and therefore stronger, can be done, with enough money.  There is <a href="http://www.pegasustown.com/more-info/pegasus-update" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the much touted success of Pegasus Town</a> relative to its neighbours in the earthquakes, as a result of major…</p>
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						<p><q>at last – the flying car</q></p><p>A friend has been working on the Martin Jetpack  for years now and all through the earthquakes without too much inconvenience, for it has of course been built and refined down in Chch. So maybe a flying car is not too far off. :)</p>
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						<p><q>I cannot now believe that anything humanity can build will withstand those forces</q></p><p>Seems reasonable. Idea is to make em easiest to fix/rebuild afterwards. Though that's all relative.</p>
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						<p><strong>marsh mellow...</strong><br /><q>...it would make sense to build transport infrastructure that is impervious to it.</q><br />at last &ndash; the flying car<br />or hoverbelt!</p>
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						<p><q>Nothing can stop that: 20 seconds and it's gone.<br />Not necessarily. If it's raised enough, it could be entirely unaffected. In fact, if liquefaction is constantly happening, it would make sense to build transport infrastructure that is impervious to it.</q></p><p>I cannot believe that's possible having experienced the big quakes.…</p>
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						<p><strong>Bogside...</strong><br /><q>fowling &amp; eeling...</q><br />These should be suburb names!</p>
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						<p><strong>Human era...</strong><br /><q>Didn’t I hear Northland with its sandstone foundation would be safe...</q><br />More than likely, at least a millennia (or two), and you'll be able to look for traces of <a href="http://data3.blog.de/media/982/2236982_bfe528c88f_m.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">previous ruling species</a> who also thought they were in a safe area (or era)...</p>
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						<p><q>Not that I’m panicking but is anywhere in NZ safe? </q></p><p>Oamaru....</p><p>Maori didnt build in Otautahi; Kaiapoi was built relatively late. Maori settled in Akaroa and Lyttelton areas, places with good harbours and stable ground (comparatively.) Swamps werent esteemed as living places  though they did have other attractions &ndash; which…</p>
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