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Cecelia

Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:42:54 +1200

Watched the show on TV this morning and enjoyed it. Very lucid.

Lilith __

Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:54:00 +1200

While the language may excite the managers and marketing teams it causes severe forehead bruising for the scientists in those teams.

You’re giving me an idea for a smartphone app. It does management maths – looks like a calculator, but produces much more exciting results.

Sure to be a winner…

Lilith __

Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:52:19 +1200

Pretty certain our management think base 3 is on Mt Everest

They've never played baseball then ;-)

Russell Brown

Sat, 01 Sep 2012 11:44:23 +1200

Hi folks.

THis week’s Media3 is now online.

We dropped Alec Ross for Barry Colman. Good show.

tussock

Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:08:46 +1200

Natural enough. Social media gives light to alternative perspectives from those of the mainstream consensus. A presentation of genuinely varying opinion makes people see that some of it must be wrong.

What is wrong is still normally the random musings of the common folk, but not always, and the times…

Chris Waugh

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:25:24 +1200

Did anybody else see this? (And: Does every radio station do online news as badly as Newstalk ZB?) On the one hand, no surprise. But on the other hand, how are we to reconcile this:

Trust in media organisations appears to be dropping as a result of the rise of…

Dave Howell

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 15:43:15 +1200

they do ask that people they deal with use their marketing name

It's all a bit "People's Democratic Republic of X", innit? If you need to ram it down our throats in your name, you're probably not....

Sacha

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:55:27 +1200

that's the high-minded ones :)

Bart Janssen

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 11:53:39 +1200

True in base 3

Pretty certain our management think base 3 is on Mt Everest

Rich of Observationz

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:02:25 +1200

1+1=3

True if plus is a binary string concatenation operator and inputs/outputs are in decimal.

1+1+1=10

True in base 3

BenWilson

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:01:07 +1200

While the language may excite the managers and marketing teams it causes severe forehead bruising for the scientists in those teams.

You're giving me an idea for a smartphone app. It does management maths – looks like a calculator, but produces much more exciting results.

Sacha

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:57:02 +1200

Aspie is fine :)

Sacha

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:56:30 +1200

some of the abuses

Yesterday's trumpeting of transport funding plans is a classic.

Bart Janssen

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:53:53 +1200

And when they’ve been kind enough to get us their two star guests, I’m hardly about to rudely refuse to use it.

Quite rightly too. It indeed would be entirely inappropriate for you to comment on it.

But it is a bit sad that an institute of higher education would…

Bart Janssen

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:19:14 +1200

Autonomic reflex is not the quite the phrase I’m looking for

Anally pedantic is the phrase I use to describe myself, especially on days when my brain appears to notice the silly more than usual.

Steve Withers

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:13:40 +1200

The format of the Herald hardly matters. Their editorials in recent days have seen them trenchantly ridiculed in the comments, their credibility as a ‘journal of record’ very much in doubt for many. For example, they opposed plain packaging of cigarettes on the grounds of intellectual property? The same argument…

thegirlstefan

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 09:03:12 +1200

Alec Ross is also to be interviewed on Nine to Noon after 10am this morning.

Ben Curran

Thu, 30 Aug 2012 07:51:45 +1200

Actually it is a marketing name.

I stand corrected. But they do ask that people they deal with use their marketing name, believe me.

It's fine to use it. It is one of those little niggly things that's automatically makes me want to point out how silly it is every…

Hebe

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:49:23 +1200

The voting fascinates me as a fine way to id the stuffed shirts and rednecks in Parliament.

Great result. Let those who wish marry; it's simple civil rights.

Danielle

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:47:49 +1200

But they do ask that people they deal with use their marketing name, believe me.

We were also meant to answer the phone with "AUT University" when I worked there. (I didn't.)

Russell Brown

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:31:48 +1200

Actually it is a marketing name.

I stand corrected. But they do ask that people they deal with use their marketing name, believe me.

Simon Lyall

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:49:11 +1200

That's the official public name of the institution, though.

Actually it is a marketing name. The legal name is "Auckland University of Technology" as they themselves state on their about page and it is also on the The New Zealand Vice-Chancellors' Committee website

Russell Brown

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:39:52 +1200

p.s. “AUT” is fine. “AUT University” is not.

That's the official public name of the institution, though. And when they've been kind enough to get us their two star guests, I'm hardly about to rudely refuse to use it.

Shaun Lott

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 19:05:15 +1200

The Guardian survived the conversion to the Berliner, for sure. But the Independent certainly seemed to lose depth when it became tabloid. In the digital age, though, such things should surely count for less and less over time? I find the NYT almost unreadable in person, but great on the…

Chris Waugh

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:26:06 +1200

A tabloid format might mean less depth, in that the stories are likely to be shorter (they will be, slightly, in the new Herald).

Why will the stories be shorter? The Beijing News, like, it seems, most papers here, is in a tabloid format but does some pretty in depth…

Rich of Observationz

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:46:33 +1200

The Guardian has [not] been any less good since it switched to Berliner format

I was disappointed in it when I went over to the UK though. Was expecting a jam filled doughnut with the news in some sort of fortune cookie styled insert.

Russell Brown

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:23:42 +1200

I don’t really see why the size of paper the words are printed on is treated as so controversial by some people.

I suppose it's because the same word is used to describe both the physical format and the style of journalism traditionally associated with with that format.

A tabloid…

Richard Aston

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:56:38 +1200

And the dangling conversation

I like that phrase Lilith , not sure exactly what it means but I like the idea that a conversation could dangle for a while , anything to do with pregnant pauses ?

Morgan Nichol

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:56:04 +1200

I don't really see why the size of paper the words are printed on is treated as so controversial by some people. Broadsheet is usually a pain in the arse to unfold in a cafe (and even worse when you're trying to hold it up to read without a table)…

Richard Aston

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:42:25 +1200

Please tell me Bob Jones – property developer – is not to be further retained as a columnist?
Judging by the positive comments to his latest call to put white collar crims in the stocks, he has plenty of supporters in the Herald readership .
I despair sometimes.

Lilith __

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:32:51 +1200

This is the home of the pendant

And the dangling conversation. ;-)

andrew r

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:23:00 +1200

Sorry, not holding out much hope to be honest.
Please tell me Bob Jones – property developer – is not to be further retained as a columnist?

Sacha

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:01:01 +1200

just call em the Ak University of Tautology. that works :)

Tony Siu

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:36:07 +1200

Wow, alec ross is in town?

Bart Janssen

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:30:22 +1200

And on topic.

It's great to see them acknowledge they have a problem with stats. It would also be nice to see them address their problems with the other sciences in a similar manner.

It really isn't that hard to find scientists who would be most happy to explain the…

Bart Janssen

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:26:41 +1200

given that it's their official brand?

So you're saying we should abandon our love of proper English in favour of marketing? This is the home of the pendant.

Bart Janssen

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:24:13 +1200

What exactly do we think the 'U' stands for?

Unremarkable?

Sorry but I couldn't resist.

Sacha

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:15:47 +1200

what do you want to call them instead, given that it's their official brand?

Shaun Lott

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:13:22 +1200

Well, I'll be convinced when I read it... shifting to tabloid was pretty much the end of the UK Independent as a serious contender.

But on another, unrelated point... Can we please not ALL go along with that dreadful phrase 'AUT University'... What exactly do we think the 'U' stands…

Ana Simkiss

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:03:42 +1200

I was worried there might be a cleanout of senior (expensive) writers when they freshened up the herald, but it appears not. I hope.

nzlemming

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:21:29 +1200

Absolutely a propos of nothing at all, but you should visit Family First's website right fucking now! ;-)

[edit] Okay, so it's not their real site, but it's still funny.

Public Address

Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:21:29 +1200

Discussion from blog post.