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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p>And now featured by the Guardian in their 'bicycle architecture' photo spread!<br /><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/cities/bike-blog/gallery/2019/jun/17/build-it-and-they-will-bike-the-second-bicycle-architecture-biennale-in-pictures" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.theguardian.com/cities/bike-blog/gallery/2019/jun/17/build-it-and-they-will-bike-the-second-bicycle-architecture-biennale-in-pictures</a></p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>This is still the case. And it really is some bullshit. Especially given that they'd undertaken not to disrupt the cycleway during the motorway-building.</q></p><p>I've got bad news for you... an email reply from the project team, shared via comment at <a href="https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/a-tiki-tour-detour-at-st-lukes-now-through-the-end-of-2015/#comment-98092" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bike Auckland</a>:</p><p><q>Additional works for this shared path have…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:20:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						Heh.  Stuff didn’t just close the comment thread.  They also seemed to wipe out 300+ comments in doing so. Someone must have gotten really sick of moderating.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2015 11:50:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>meanwhile new cycling infrastructure in Wellington has its detractors...<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75315964/Wellingtons-Island-Bay-cycleway-has-left-residents-confused-and-angry" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/75315964/Wellingtons-Island-Bay-cycleway-has-left-residents-confused-and-angry</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2015 05:57:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> they simply were not aware or did not recall passing a cyclist half a km earlier, or recognise they may have done something scary for another road-user</q></p><p>The majority of my brushes have seemed this way. Simple failure to recognize danger. It's something that is hard to clearly acknowledge about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 10:16:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p><q>So long as they see you, and don’t really know what to make of it, that seems safer than just letting them presume that you’re turning left because that would be more convenient for them.</q></p><p>Definitely..</p><p><br /><q>I have once signaled – I just did the standard arm out for right…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:09:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>but I suspect most of them simply assume “bikes are slow” in their sub-conscious</q></p><p>That much I'd believe.  Even when driving I've noticed a distinct difference in the behaviour of other drivers at red lights based on the car I'm driving at the time. The 1989 Mazda 323 hatchback seems…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:04:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p><q>is it possible that some of the latter drivers might be interpreting that as you telling them they should go around you? Maybe they think you’re trying to get them in front of you for some reason?</q></p><p>Hmm.. I hadn’t considered that possibility?  </p><p>I’ve been doing it for about 6…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:45:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>The article was misleading; sentencing is not until March.</q></p><p>Thanks.  If so, that's terrible reporting to completely leave that out, state that he wasn't convicted, and give an impression that it's done and dusted and the man's been let off.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:19:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>So long as they see you, and don't really know what to make of it, that seems safer than just letting them presume that you're turning left because that would be more convenient for them.</p><p>I have once signaled &ndash; I just did the standard arm out for right turn.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:13:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<q> I take my right hand off the handlebar, and point with my finger and a horizontal fore-arm, moving it back and forward in a straight ahead direction (think choo-choo train motions). [--snip--] how many “undertake” me on the left as I expect compared to those who go past on the…</q>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:00:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Glen Koorey</title>
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						<p><q>| results in no conviction for off-duty bus driver</p><p>Does anyone know why? The article doesn’t seem to make that clear.</q></p><p>The article was misleading; sentencing is not until March. The driver is likely to apply for discharge without conviction but that doesn't mean they will get it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 22:00:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<q>choo-choo train motions</q>A signal possibly interpreted by drivers as “stay clear of the obviously crazy cyclist”; but that interpretation has the desired effect.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:41:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p>Sorry, I haven't been back to PA for a while to reply.. yes, I completely concur on nearly all your observations re: Gt North Rd and cycleways between Waterview and and Avondale, inc BHB-Rd intersection...</p><p>I have invented my own hand-signal for such situations  (bicycle going straight ahead, where you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 21:22:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						ah, you mean attacking her as opposed to standing for election against her? #asyouwere
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:00:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						I honestly find it easier to just ride up Chinaman's Hill sometimes. You get to skip the irksome ramp to Newton Road that way too.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:42:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>We await their pleasure, on a work that would take them about 1 day, if they actually worked on it.</q></p><p>I've been avoiding this stretch as much as possible &ndash; mainly by reverting to the old on-road cycle route parallel to the motorway and then taking the underpass at Mountain…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:25:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I noticed that the first thing they strategically did was dig the old cycleway up, so there's no going back now. We await their pleasure, on a work that would take them about 1 day, if they actually worked on it.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:18:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>(well except that for about 3 months they just used the stretch of it past St Lukes Rd to park digging machines and diverted all bikes up a whole bunch of suburban hills to get across what was a 100m downhill cycleway stretch before – I don’t know if this…</q>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:48:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Just watched the last 3D. They all lamented the end of the serious journalism TV genre and gave examples of the sort of voices that would not be heard anymore.</p><p>Now fully into the era of vacuous opinion.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:07:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p>She might be popular but she’s also very polarising.  I think part of her success was probably that the main alternative put up was <em>John Morrison</em>.</p><p>Duncan Garner’s problem is likely just a Green Party hating thing, and not wanting to give any credence to the possibility that someone with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:48:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I'd be going 50km/h within 10 seconds. I'd judge the light the same way I would in a car &ndash; if it's safe to stop, I would stop, otherwise I'd just go through on yellow at 50km/h and clear the intersection in about 3-4 seconds. Since you don't have rear…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Listening to that Mediawatch link izogi posted above. It follows on from a nasty op ed piece in the DomPost a couple of weeks ago
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						He is?
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Why is Duncan Garner (an Aucklander) campaigning against our popular female Greenish mayor in Wellington?
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						It doesn't. Guessing it would have cost him his job &ndash; which seems quite fair to me, given the nature of the offence.
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						On a related topic to Russell's post, yesterday's Mediawatch <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/201782484/puncturing-the-news-cycle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">contains a 7 minute segment</a> discussing media coverage of Auckland's Nelson Street cycleway and Wellington's Island Bay cycleway.
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						<p><q>results in no conviction for off-duty bus driver</q></p><p>Does anyone know why?  The article doesn't seem to make that clear.</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>No worries, Ben. Yup, I've seen similar confusion over diagonal cycle crossings' signs and lights elsewhere &ndash; I think it's a byproduct of their being fundamentally a stupid idea.</p><p>I practiced what I preached on Nelson Street this morning, using a new secondhand bike with lovely big 700c wheels -…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<p><q>Wellington court case – including footage – results in no conviction for off-duty bus driver using his suv as a weapon against cyclist</q></p><p><q>The video, which Simeon claimed was edited, shows Simeon driving up close behind Emet on Kent Tce, before tooting at him to get out of the way.…</q></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Wellington court case &ndash; including footage &ndash; results in no conviction for off-duty bus driver using his suv <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/75017196/road-rage-victim-urges-everyone-to-chill-out-and-take-a-breath" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">as a weapon</a> against cyclist.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Wish I'd read that last night. I just got punked by a diagonal crossing that led me to sign saying "Cyclists, Dismount". Oh? OK, so I'm going here then, am I? Color me confused as to what that crossing is for. I was at least halfway across before I could…
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						Lifehack for the diagonal cycle crossing at Victoria/Nelson Street: if you want to go down towards the viaduct or Quay Street quickly and in peace, punch the button to activate the crossing, then when it goes off, head along it for a couple of metres and then drop straight downhill…
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>Come to think of it, I suppose there would be insane arguments for doing so …</q></p><p>As many YouTube videos from nutbar mountain bikers testify.</p>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>The BSA is New Zealand's most toothless organisation. They would probably just rule that Mike Hosking is expressing 'an opinion'. Remembering, of course, that he is not really a journalist.<br />I rode bikes to work through the 80's and 90's while living in the CBD (Hobson, Albert, Emily, Anzac, Whittaker,…</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<q>(well except that for about 3 months they just used the stretch of it past St Lukes Rd to park digging machines and diverted all bikes up a whole bunch of suburban hills to get across what was a 100m downhill cycleway stretch before &ndash; I don't know if this…</q>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 11:21:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>for me it’s 2-3 km extra (10-20%) distance in exchange for a nearly flat ride and nearly half on protected cycleway</q></p><p>Presumably the alternative is New North Rd? Or perhaps a sneaky back street route to Mt Eden Rd I can see why you'd avoid those. Hilly and dangerous. I'm…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 09:24:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Great for a weekend tootle, or a fitness program… but not really a commute?</q></p><p>Yeah, that’s certainly true if your commuting destination is the CBD. It’s a function of the fact that full-fledged cycleways are a byproduct of motorways.</p><p>Otoh, it’s a bit different if you happen to live in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 08:24:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Thanks for the photo credit Russell!</q></p><p>Thanks for the photo, dude.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 08:22:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Kraitzick</title>
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						Thanks for the photo credit Russell!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2015 07:39:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						<p><q>The SH20 (southwestern) cycleway tracks the motorway, so it currently comes as far north as Mt Roskill.</p><p>It will connect with the SH16 (northwestern) cycleway when the Waterview Connection opens  [snip]</p><p>The main problem will remain with the part of the northbound journey which includes an off-putting climb up to…</q></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>And the Nelson St cycleway feels ten times safer than when I’ve ridden down Nelson St in the traffic.</q></p><p>I used to do it sometimes. You really needed to be feeling confident.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:41:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> <em>He’s gone from merely trying for clickbait, essentially trolling, to actually defining groups of others (the poor, the unemployed, maori, cyclists) that according to him it is OK to hate and denigrate.</em></p><p>Worth firing off a few BSA standard complaints about denigration, perhaps?</q></p><p>Not remotely worth it. It falls well…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:39:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Out of curiosity, what is the planned route to connect Onehunga to the central city cycleways?</q></p><p>The SH20 (southwestern) cycleway tracks the motorway, so it currently comes as far north as Mt Roskill.</p><p>It will connect with the SH16 (northwestern) cycleway when the Waterview Connection opens – or maybe a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:34:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I was having this disagreement with Wellington cyclists recently. When you’re around pedestrians on a shared space, anything above about 15km/h is either unsafe or uncomfortable for the people you’re around, depending on how many of them there are. </q></p><p>That is true, but it's hyperbole to say that speeding bikes…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:28:51 +1300</pubDate>
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						I doubt you can expect a conviction in these circumstances, but you can report people anyway. At least a record is kept that they were involved in this kind of traffic incident. Might deter them at best, or get them later at worst.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:26:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Glen Koorey</title>
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						I'm mostly fairly excited and impressed with what's been happening cycling-wise down our way <a href="http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/tag/major-cycleways/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">in Christchurch</a> lately (e.g. 9km of new separated cycleways so far this year), but I gotta say that I'm really keen to try out that shiny pink new ride you've got when I'm next in Auckland!…
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				<title>Glen Koorey</title>
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						<q>I guess driving is regarded by many drivers as not just a way of getting around, but a moral good and a human right &ndash; a triumph of western civilization which countless TV shows and advertisments tell them is an important status symbol in a values system they've totally brought…</q>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:01:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Patrick Morgan</title>
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						Tune in to RNZ Mediawatch on Sunday for some thoughts on how media treat cycling &ndash; and how this is changing. Case study: <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/story/worried-wellingtonians-question-new-cycleway-2015120317#axzz3tgpA4NX5" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.3news.co.nz/tvshows/story/worried-wellingtonians-question-new-cycleway-2015120317#axzz3tgpA4NX5</a>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:54:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzMM</title>
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						Out of curiosity, what is the planned route to connect Onehunga to the central city cycleways?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:13:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Roger</title>
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						<p><q>It is possible to call *555 to report bad driving. Or the police if it was really bad. For someone pushing me with their car it would be the police.</q></p><p>Well, of course it is &ndash; but the attraction of doing so disappears quite quickly, the Police generally aren't interested…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:17:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q>Inapproprite speed is as dangerous on a bike on a cycleway as it is in a car on the road. A lot of MAMILs are old school cyclists who are used to neglected and unused cycleway segments that were basically deserted and their playspaces.</q></p><p>I was having this disagreement with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:56:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						Today was my first time on my bike since [mumblemumblemumble], and even though I was heading to K Rd, I took the Lightpath route to try it out. I have never felt so at ease on my bike in Auckland, ever.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 15:53:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p><q>OTOH, I’ve seen some appalling etiquette among cyclists in Auckland, particularly the MAMIL weekend warriors...</q></p><p>Inapproprite speed is as dangerous on a bike on a cycleway as it is in a car on the road. A lot of MAMILs are old school cyclists who are used to neglected and unused…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 14:38:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>I finally got to try out the LightPath this morning as part of my daily commute.  I remember the concerns raised here so was interested to see how things turned out.</p><p>Very good, as it happens.  I like and the perspex safety walls don't bother me too much.  And the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 13:11:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p><q>By all accounts, the driver of this car deliberately entered the cycleway and drove towards a family heading up on their bikes. The driver laughed before reversing out and exiting via Cook Street, presumably breaching the no-right-turn sign there.</q></p><p>Sorry if I’ve missed something in the comments.  But especially given…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 12:43:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>He's gone from merely trying for clickbait, essentially trolling, to actually defining groups of others (the poor, the unemployed, maori, cyclists) that according to him it is OK to hate and denigrate.</q></p><p>Worth firing off a few BSA standard complaints about denigration, perhaps?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:38:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jolisa</title>
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						<p>Those magenta wheels &ndash; so cool! And Claire &amp; baby so pretty in pink :-)</p><p>I love Sam's description of the over-the-top colour choice, too... this thing is getting noticed all over the world. It's such a massive gesture of cheeky chutzpah and vote of confidence in a new way of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 11:12:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I guess driving is regarded by many drivers as not just a way of getting around, but a moral good and a human right</q></p><p>Much like gun ownership.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>his vacuous rants</q></p><p>The problem is that his rants are not vacuous, they are in the full of incitement to do harm. In this case to cyclists. But also to do harm against refugees. To do harm against those with different political opinions.</p><p>He's gone from merely trying for clickbait,…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>But part of me said “hey, it’s cyclist day, use the road”.</q></p><p>Yeah. I don't seek to excuse the driver, and I can understand why you did it &ndash; I'm luckier in that my hair raising experience at that intersection was in a car. Of course I was not at…</p>
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						At risk of over-posting here &ndash; I took the Nelson Street and NW Cycleway route back home to Morningside last night. Massive difference &ndash; it's shortened my commute home by 15 minutes (1/3rd reduction). That is time in pocket to commute in from further out, or visit destinations in town,…
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						<p>The one where the lady knocked me off by not stopping at the stop sign at intersection? </p><p><q>Just don’t expect a particualry positive reception [...]</q><br />The policewoman at the station was an absolute pro and lovely to deal with when I reported the crash. </p><p><q>[...] you’re prepared to push hard…</q></p>
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				<title>Jim Cathcart</title>
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						I’m not really sure of what it is about Auckland and the Mr Wheeler attitude towards cyclists, but it fits in well with the NIMBY concept of property rights. After riding the main roads of Osaka for over 10 years, I never experienced road rage or intimidation once, even if…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						...and just to add: I'd commend and recommend anyone who has an unpleasant bike v car encounter to contact the police.  Just don't expect a particualry positive reception or results unless you're prepared to push hard for it against institutional apathy.
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>So she was saying you intentionally rammed her car with your pedal, with a high likelihood of causing your own death or serious injury...? </q></p><p>No, her defence was that once she'd rammed me into the bus, I'd cracked her windscreen by repeatedly pounding on it.  Which I did, because I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2015 00:22:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>This is the sanest argument I know for having a GoPro on top of your helmet</q></p><p>Come to think of it, I suppose there <em>would</em> be insane arguments for doing so …</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>AND next year the Nelson St path will run right past my front door. I’m truly living the dream.</q></p><p>A friend has been riding to work from Morningside to Fairfax in the former Telecom building on on K Road.</p><p>She's about to take up a job at the new NZME…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:46:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						<q>I was once crushed into the side of bus on Customs St by a young lady deliberately puliing her car over to the left as I slowly filtered through between her on my right and the bus to the left. My RH bike pedal got caught and mangled in her…</q>
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				<title>Claire J</title>
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						Ecstatic on opening night. And also beyond delighted to realise this is perfect for my work to daycare to home circuit. AND next year the Nelson St path will run right past my front door. I'm truly living the dream.
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Surely this is assault with a weapon? Not just a traffic infringement.</q></p><p>I was once crushed into the side of bus on Customs St by a young lady deliberately puliing her car over to the left as I slowly filtered through between her on my right and the bus to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:32:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Some Stats</title>
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						<p><q>What do you do at those times? I’m ok admitting, I was frightened of that driver.</q></p><p>When you encounter dangerous aggression from cars, call the police immediately.  Use *555 which is for urgent traffic issues and goes through to the central control room.  In my experience, the operators there are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 22:06:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Wichid</title>
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						No, cycle crossings are matched to traffic movements in similar directions like other pedestrian crossings
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 21:29:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeanette King</title>
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						Only wish I could be there with my magenta wheels ...
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:43:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						<p><q>What do you do at those times? </q></p><p>This is the sanest argument I know for having a GoPro on top of your helmet to record the license, the action and the driver for later complaint to police. Unless complaints are made, and in quantity, leading to convictions, nothing will change.</p>
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				<title>Jon Briggs</title>
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						After reading this post I sought out the new path on m way home today.  Magic.  I will test it out in rush hour tomorrow, but reckon this will save me from the daily nightmare of all the unphased traffic lights down Queen St!
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				<title>dcnbwz</title>
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						The instances of these drivers' behaviour, which one of the previous commenters got right in terms of this being an assault, is disgusting. I believe these people are representative of the bullying selfish behaviour that has been fostered in our culture over the last twenty or so years, encouraged by…
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				<title>AThrift</title>
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						"Car drivers" (whatever that actually means) should welcome more cyclists as every cycle is one car less, so they can dash off to their next traffic jam all the quicker.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:29:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						It is possible to call *555 to report bad driving. Or the police if it was really bad. For someone pushing me with their car it would be the police.
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				<title>Sam M</title>
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						<p>Cheers!  Will definitely go for an amber in that direction.</p><p>I also drive in (getting off the NW MW at Nelson St) and the traffic seems to have been a lot worse the last couple of weeks.  Once the cars actually get onto Nelson St, I don't think they move…</p>
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						Congratulations Auckland on the cycle-path awesomeness! Let's hope these paths become standard around New Zealand. That would be amazing.
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						Righto, I'll make a point next time of going on a foggy day, skip lunch in Sausalito and make my kids ride the extra 15kms to Tiburon to avoid the Ferry queue. Sounds like a great day out :-)
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				<title>Lilith __</title>
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						<q>I saw another guy in a car do this to a person on a bike turning right into Nuffield Street in Newmarket. I was driving, and in the lane next to them. There was a red arrow and the guy in the car behind the person on the bike physically…</q>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Turning right out of Gundry is a pretty game maneuver, even in a car – I don’t usually do it, even though it’s an obvious shortcut if you’re coming up Newton to K Rd. It’s got many layers of wrong about it.</q></p><p>Yeah, like I said, I considered trundling along…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Map at Canada St entrance for those unsure where the access point is</p><p>This from Sam > <br /><q>"1. I can’t think of a single cycle project that has generated as much excitement as this..."</q></p><p>What I was thinking of when I said the lightpath symbolises great things for a re-imagined…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Really :) I think it depends on the day and the weather a bit. Sausalito is not a real ride &ndash; you should have cycled to Tiburon and caught the ferry from there. No queues. </p><p>Like anything it could be better but by an large being able to cycle or…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>The colour is called Telemagenta by the company that made it. Ironically the details are in a post called Pink Frost. ( they don't once mention the Chills but...)<br /><a href="https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/pink-frost-meet-the-team-who-put-the-icing-on-the-nelson-st-cake/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pink Frost: meet the team who put the icing on the Nelson St cake</a></p>
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				<title>JessicaRose</title>
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						At the risk of over commenting &ndash; we have some amazing crowd shots of so many happy engaged people of Auckland all enjoying the moment.  It's weird that this invokes a negative response from anyone.
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				<title>Su Yin Khoo</title>
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						<p>Bike Auckland has <a href="https://www.bikeauckland.org.nz/maps-rides/cycle-maps/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">collated a few map resources here</a>.</p><p>If you're coming off the North Western, it's not too much of a detour to use Light Path to get to Albert St. Give it a go and see how you feel.</p><p>Attached is a very rough sketch of the route.</p>
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				<title>JessicaRose</title>
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						<p><q>It was bloody scary, which I presume was the driver’s intention. It felt like a deliberate and very dangerous attempt to intimidate.</q> </p><p>That’s awful.  More so as it’s not even uncommon.</p><p>I was going straight ahead on MacKelvie Street on Ponsonby and a guy at the stop sign on Rose…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:49:16 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p><q>I've never had such a big grin on my face on this Nelson St bike hoon since the great Harbour Bridge civil disobedience crossing in 2009(?).</q></p><p>My forgotten 8th reckon from the post above was just that &ndash; at last, a return to that same festival atmosphere.</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<p>A few thoughts:</p><p>1. I can't think of a single cycle project that has generated as much excitement as this, even amongst the relatively bike friendly circles I move in (online and off). I rode up for the first hoon with a group of several colleagues plus one more who…</p>
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				<title>Sam M</title>
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						<p>Is there a good resource that can help cyclists figure out routes in AKL?  I commute in regularly along the Northwestern Bike Path and then to Albert St but haven’t figured out if this new stretch of Light Path should feature or not.</p><p>I have no idea how to get…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:32:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p>Turning right out of Gundry is a pretty game maneuver, even in a car &ndash; I don't usually do it, even though it's an obvious shortcut if you're coming up Newton to K Rd. It's got many layers of wrong about it. </p><p>Agreed that drivers shouldn't be dicks, though. Some…</p>
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				<title>JessicaRose</title>
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						<p><q>The fact is, this whole thing cost $18 million to build. Which might sound a lot, until you place it in the context of $4.2 billion of NZTA spending in Auckland in the next three years alone.</q></p><p>So important to have that context.  You can forgive people for thinking that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:25:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Myles Thomas</title>
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						<p>Re duhaminising of cyclists. </p><p>This was the point of the recent safety ads getting people to think of cyclists as real people. They featured a person with DAD or DAUGHTER written on their shirt while riding a bike.  Perhaps whoever researched that campaign discovered that drivers' dislike of cyclists is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:03:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p><q> Ask anyone in Sydney or SF how many tourists enjoy walking / cycling over those iconic bridges and the answer is – a lot and they are all happy. </q></p><p>Actually, having just done the cycle over Golden Gate bridge 6 weeks ago, I can tell you it's not as pleasant…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:55:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Ahem, tis <em>pink</em> rather than magenta &ndash; designed to <a href="http://m.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&amp;objectid=11556489" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">represent heart totara</a>. Can see it from planes apparently.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:38:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kavin King</title>
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						Vacuous 'rant'.  Is this a spelling mistake?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:35:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Su Yin Khoo</title>
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						<p>I don't have a cruiser but did swap out my flat bars for cruiser-style bars which is what enables me to continue climbing Auckland's hills at 37 weeks. :-)</p><p>FWIW, I don't get any more care and courtesy on the roads cycling with a puku nui.</p><p>I've never had such…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:34:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<p><q>It's just as well we're building cycleways, because those things look bloody difficult to ride in traffic.</q></p><p>Having spent a month cycling round Santa Monica and Venice on a less exaggerated cruiser, I can tell you that they're much better than they appear. The super upright laid-back position is great…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:32:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Another lady on her way to First Thursdays on a trendy cruiser bike.</p><p>It's just as well we're building cycleways, because those things look bloody difficult to ride in traffic.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Exactly. I don't hear anyone moaning about the Northern Busway now...</q></p><p>The classic there is <a href="http://publicaddress.net/hardnews/you-can-roughan-but-you-just-cant-hide/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">when John Roughan in the Herald condemned the busway on its opening as a "monstrous" folly, then six years later touted its great success as an argument against rail</a>.</p><p>Sample:</p><p><q>Auckland is a car city…</q></p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						I guess driving is regarded by many drivers as not just a way of getting around, but a moral good and a human right &ndash; a triumph of western civilization which countless TV shows and advertisments tell them is an important status symbol in a values system they've totally brought…
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<p><q>The opponents of change slink off from their position without a moment of shame or introspection, before bloviating in public on the next thing</q><br />Exactly. I don't hear anyone moaning about the Northern Busway now...</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>We had a walk along the magenta trail on Saturday. It is only 700m but very impressive. I think the symbolic value of the magenta loop is magnified by the colour. It will be great when a cyclist can ride to skypath and over the bridge.</p><p>Ask anyone in Sydney…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:07:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Late on Thursday, a bicycle in the style of later Warhol.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:07:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Jessica from Bike Auckland, who did much of the work to make the big ride happen.</p><p><strong>NOTE:</strong> Feel free to share your own pics here. Just write your comment and then use the “Choose File” button to select an image. You can add as many as three pics per comment…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 13:05:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>That won’t ever change, but hopefully we give them less of a microphone in the future.</q></p><p>My use of the word "whiners" was considered. Hosking is fond of complaining about people complaining, but here he is when something good happens – moaning for the sake of it.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:54:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>bob daktari</title>
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						<p><q>The opponents of change slink off from their position without a moment of shame or introspection, before bloviating in public on the next thing</q></p><p>given the rate cycleways are being introduced (and embraced) it won't be overly long before Hosking et al are champions how Auckland has transformed  into a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:50:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						'bloviates' &ndash; what an apt description of his vacuous rants
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:46:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>This is our city, and these are our lives. And we want to make them better.</p><p>We shouldn't have to justify that. But we do. The proof is usually in retrospect &ndash; we see how good things are, and the mainstream changes. The proof is also available elsewhere in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:30:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:30:04 +1300</pubDate>
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