Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Cannabis reform is not a mission to Mars

Dennis Frank

Fri, 26 Aug 2016 10:52:12 +1200

Russell, I suggest you consider the issue from a minority-rights perspective too. Women, Maoris, homosexuals are all large minorities that achieved liberation from legal and cultural oppression in the 20th century. Folks choosing to use cannabis remain the only large minority still oppressed.

It will probably help them to clarify…

Shulgin

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:40:14 +1200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoW4Vw4XGAs

major tom

Shulgin

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 20:03:34 +1200

"We are not operating in a rational space."

I thought it was about a mars shot, in a thin can...but anyway...some of that chyna steel can be rolled real thin...to make lite weight versions.

Anyway, rational space....there is shit in the water, and we concern ourselves with a mars shot....a…

Sacha

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 18:03:19 +1200

I thought he was actually smarter than that.

Nope.

Russell Brown

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:53:29 +1200

A rational sensible data driven approach to mind altering drugs would require people to change their minds.

And we do not live in a rational space. Example: Parliament’s Health committee reports back recommending the reclassification of the NBOMe class of drugs as Class B under the Misuse of Drugs Act.…

linger

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:09:11 +1200

So whether that makes it less a mission to Mars and more a hiding to nothing depends on the people making the decisions.
*Looks at headlines* ... Yeah, I wouldn't be too optimistic either.

Bart Janssen

Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:50:40 +1200

It’s not a mission to Mars

No it isn't. A Mars mission is just solving engineering and biological problems and getting the money.

A rational sensible data driven approach to mind altering drugs would require people to change their minds.

william blake

Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:57:11 +1200

(Mikes’ )Marijuana Minute – Urban Dictionary

A seemingly long period of time. It occurs most often when under the influence of marijuana due to the altered state of mind. An actually short moment may seem to drag on forever.

Similar to: New York Minute

Dude, that speech lasted a marijuana…

Shulgin

Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:45:56 +1200

flag pole...I get it..the government was flagging in the poles...steel poles from chyna...with no test certificates...I suppose at the bottom of that issue...is a public health concern, I mean water-view steel strands, and 8 million liters of shit in a Fletcher tank, right on the Manukau harbor foreshore. How is…

kw

Wed, 24 Aug 2016 18:58:23 +1200

From the people who brought you a flag poll...

Ian Dalziel

Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:24:52 +1200

What we need is a Reeferendum!

Ethan Tucker

Wed, 24 Aug 2016 10:29:12 +1200

does he just sit in splendid isolation

Depends if you define Masterton as splendid.

Ross Bell

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 19:12:19 +1200

I've just watched "Mike's Minute." Just... wow... lost for words. I thought he was actually smarter than that.

BenWilson

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 17:15:35 +1200

I find it hard to argue about the best kind of decriminalization in good faith. I fundamentally cannot think of a "fair" fine or punishment to impose on a cannabis user. It could only be done as a bargain thing, in which I start from the position that there should…

linger

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:14:42 +1200

But it's his drug of choice, so of course that's different.

william blake

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:09:34 +1200

Du Fresne states that the drug foundation has 'issues' with alcohol requiring them to have some kind of ideological enema. It seems from their website that they treat alcohol just like any other drug and explain its toxicity and addictive properties. KdF seems to be suffering from some kind or…

Russell Brown

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:53:20 +1200

Report released this year on Aussie Decrim models:

This seems pretty emphatic:

There is clearly a strong public health benefit to people who use drugs being diverted away from the criminal justice system and this is not a radical idea – it is already happening,” says Dr Hughes. “The research…

Ross Bell

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:43:01 +1200

Report released this year on Aussie Decrim models: https://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/news/decriminalisation-drug-use-sound-and-pragmatic-public-health-policy-says-national-drug-and

Russell Brown

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:22:51 +1200

Which might encourage cops to set up checkpoints and search every likely looking vehicle, or scour student residences with drug dogs in order to fill their ticket quota and bring money in. (That sort of thing has been reported in US states with an infringement regime for cannabis).

I think…

Tom Semmens

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:57:28 +1200

I read the Du Fresne piece. I came away profoundly grateful he hadn’t managed to work in the phrase “cultural Marxists”.

andin

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 14:41:28 +1200

Karl du Fresne
Man! does he just sit in splendid isolation writing that shit?
he needs an ayahuasca cleanse immediately
look at the data, listen to experts and question what you know.
Sound advice but it might be beyond some of those people. They have a soapbox and something resembling…

Rich of Observationz

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:46:25 +1200

possession attracts a civil fine, like a traffic ticket

mpledger

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:13:07 +1200

We all know who the "nutters" are "running the place on political polling".

Public Address

Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:13:07 +1200

Discussion from blog post.