Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Campbell Live: A Disturbance in the Force

Sofie Bribiesca

Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:18:49 +1200

Oh, very good.

Roger Lacey

Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:18:55 +1200

I interviewed John Campbell for Media3 and we made a longer 22-minute cut for the web only. Happily, it has survived the cull of Media3 episodes. It’s a good watch.

It is a good watch.

Alfie

Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:29:43 +1200

Garrick Tremain considers Julie Christie's influence at TV3.

Russell Brown

Mon, 01 Jun 2015 10:33:57 +1200

I meant to put this in the actual post on Friday: in October 2012, I interviewed John Campbell for Media3 and we made a longer 22-minute cut for the web only. Happily, it has survived the cull of Media3 episodes. It's a good watch.

You can see it here

Kumara Republic

Sat, 30 May 2015 19:42:06 +1200

http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/05/29/aotearoa-pie-the-day-campbell-live-died/

Clever...

All sing along now...

Don't wanna be an Aotearoan idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck Aotearoa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee_uujKuJMI

izogi

Sat, 30 May 2015 14:01:00 +1200

Hi Geoff.

There are numerous other problems eg the assumption that everyone has autonomy in viewing choices, statistical invalidity in respect of age groupings, under-representation of non-home owning viewers and ethnic groups. But the greatest flaw is that they equate quantitative measurement with qualitative assessment

How is the multiple for…

Rosemary McDonald

Sat, 30 May 2015 13:12:40 +1200

http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/05/29/aotearoa-pie-the-day-campbell-live-died/

Clever...

All sing along now...

Danielle

Sat, 30 May 2015 12:12:12 +1200

Don’t watch telly.

How about nope?

Sofie Bribiesca

Sat, 30 May 2015 10:49:43 +1200

532,000 viewers last night. Updated from Herald

artig

Sat, 30 May 2015 10:29:38 +1200

Yes, Rosemary, that was one of the ones I read. And one that perfectly illustrates why I usually just skim the topics and don't bother reading the whole screed. My blood pressure is grateful for that. Fortunately the remainder of the paper, except for some of the letter writers, seldom…

krothville

Sat, 30 May 2015 09:32:28 +1200

That wasn't there when I looked yesterday. It must be a new addition

Sofie Bribiesca

Sat, 30 May 2015 08:27:04 +1200

Of course now it turns out JC was the most popular journo TV had! Why couldn't the Herald, or Savage for that matter, print this before today?

Ah, ETA, been linked to upthread so here's David Fisher with a nice write up about JC

izogi

Sat, 30 May 2015 07:04:59 +1200

There were a few of his topics where I felt fatigued, but I didn't hold him responsible so much as the subjects of his reporting who were clearly aiming to wait things out until people got "fatigued". I imagine it's easier to ignore a journo when it's so simple to…

simon g

Sat, 30 May 2015 06:43:53 +1200

This says it all:

Campbell's crusades should not "go past the point of audience fatigue e.g Pike River", and steps would be put in place to prevent this happening with the show's replacement.

Source: Media Works internal documents

New show's slogan; "We won't bore you with truth" (Source: me).

Lilith __

Fri, 29 May 2015 23:45:53 +1200

Mike Hosking’s inane editorialising peaked this week in this incredible 48-second Mike’s View entitled I want to see news about how happy we all are.

When I saw that mentioned the other day I assumed it was parody. You mean this actually happened?

Rosemary McDonald

Fri, 29 May 2015 23:14:21 +1200

artig, I hope you caught this http://www.sunlive.co.nz/blogs/8176-pinning-tale-on-johnkey.html wee gem from Brian Rogers...editor extraordinaire.

He actually opines of Amanda Bailey, " some minion troublemaker, who has discovered she wields a bit of power and attention after riding along with a bit of horse play."

Uses rustic terms..."feminist gay nazi brigade" and…

Sacha

Fri, 29 May 2015 21:13:53 +1200

CampbellLive was trending in the *worldwide* top ten on Twitter during the show. Flurry of emotion.

Kumara Republic

Fri, 29 May 2015 19:37:43 +1200

http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/3NewsLiveStream

Just great. The program I used turns out to be crippleware and only got about the first half. Might have to grab the rest of it later.

Paul Campbell

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:59:46 +1200

Some times despite hundred thousands of good and honest people wishing as hard as they can the evil black witch still kills the beautiful fairy

(Who probably didn't need any more
of this crap any way)

Sacha

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:40:01 +1200

the on-demand stream

http://www.3news.co.nz/Video/3NewsLiveStream

JP Hansen

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:36:01 +1200

In an amusing piece of synergy, former Listener music writer, Nick Bollinger's kids are 2/3s of the White Man Behind a Desk team.

Click on "See More" on the Facebook profile "about" section's Long Description...

Rosemary McDonald

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:28:54 +1200

You missed the point, Amanda was asking where would the journalists who left TV3 go.

No, I was kinda saying that I really don't care...not having watched telly in ages.

Why? Because even the news (on any channel) had become trite, drivelly dross.

Unbearably trivialised stories delivered by plastic people.…

Kumara Republic

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:20:26 +1200

Tonight I'm going to try and record the on-demand stream of the final Campbell Live broadcast for posterity.

As for Hosking and all the other usual suspects, we can't just wait for him to go 'cheeky darkie' or 'Sheila Dikshit', so we need to set some kind of trap for…

Sacha

Fri, 29 May 2015 18:07:00 +1200

And go where?

Non-tv operators like Spark might be considering their own local content online...

artig

Fri, 29 May 2015 17:23:02 +1200

Meanwhile we get this load of bile from the owner/editor of our local freebie weekly paper, the Weekend Sun/Sunlive.

I don't usually bother to read his 'editorials' but just happened to notice that today's one was mostly about the demise of Campbell Live.

Sad to see that the program ends…

Geoff Lealand

Fri, 29 May 2015 17:18:17 +1200

Peoplemeter technology was introduced in the mid-80s when I was working in TV audience research, to replace the weekly diary system (which had their flaws but had the big advantage that it was a different set of viewers reporting on their viewing each week). PM are now the international norm,…

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 29 May 2015 16:49:21 +1200

As an aside, I want Campbell Live to live on and wish we had a charter that allows TV to flourish in Public TV like the BBC. As I suspect is usual, NZers will venture out and find alternative viewing pleasure and stick it to TV3 when available (or at…

Roger Lacey

Fri, 29 May 2015 16:42:23 +1200

BTW John Campbell, if you're reading this. Go you good thing!

Roger Lacey

Fri, 29 May 2015 16:41:04 +1200

I'd still love to know more about the "people meter". I imagine it as some 1960's contraption connected to a socket in the wall that leads back to a ticker-tape machine in a dusty basement.
Whatever it is I'm sure that some boffin at TVNZ has hacked it to provide…

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 29 May 2015 16:27:16 +1200

But that would require someone at TVNZ to admit they got it wrong with Hosking.

With the ratings 7 Sharp has (which is what Christie et al wants) and the value and sway a 5 year old viewer seems to register, TVNZ wont comit Hara-Kiri. TVNZ ratings says to Kevin…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 16:05:55 +1200

I’m struggling to see it actually happening, though.

It would be a supreme irony to have 7-sharp replaced by John Campbell.

But that would require someone at TVNZ to admit they got it wrong with Hosking.

Hilary Stace

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:46:29 +1200

I agree. Seems logical that someone who has the pulling power of 300,000 viewers nightly and considerable personal loyalty would be an attractive brand for some commercial outfit, which is what TVNZ is now. I'm sure sponsors would line up too.

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:43:07 +1200

And go where?

Simple.

Don’t watch telly.

You missed the point, Amanda was asking where would the journalists who left TV3 go.

This is a perennial problem with jobs in New Zealand, particularly in specialised fields. There really are only a few employers for talented journalists/camera operators/editors. This means those…

izogi

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:29:56 +1200

It’s now more than 25 years since they started broadcasting and the ratings for their evening news show are still much lower than for TV1, even though I consider 3 News to be a much better product. I expect there are many people out there who have always watched TV1…

Rosemary McDonald

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:29:45 +1200

And go where?

Simple.

Don't watch telly.

I've not watched more than an hour of telly in the last year.

Maybe two hours in the past 18 months.

Don't miss it.

However....the Young People are reorganising the household's internet service and when the transition is complete I intend to watch…

Sofie Bribiesca

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:26:14 +1200

Along with John Campbell, how many others are going to just walk away from TV3 in the next few months?

They are all between a rock and a hard place. With digital transition comes fewer jobs and many at both TVNZ or 3 are clinging to their jobs whilst they…

Amanda Wreckonwith

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:16:50 +1200

Along with John Campbell, how many others are going to just walk away from TV3 in the next few months?
And go where?

Amanda Wreckonwith

Fri, 29 May 2015 15:14:42 +1200

But quality journalism is in trouble when the Listener starts dumbing itself down.
Quality journalism? I buy it for advice on the latest fad diet, the newest 'likely' cancer cure/cause, and to see what I could be watching if only I had taken out a Sky subscription.

Actually, I don't…

Rosemary McDonald

Fri, 29 May 2015 14:54:28 +1200

The Paul Henry experiment sees to have been a disaster ratings-wise. I’m surprised that he keeps showing up on screen.

Gross...but I liken Paul Henry to a dose of herpes....

Michael Meyers

Fri, 29 May 2015 14:39:53 +1200

I feel like TV3 is a little hamstrung by the inertia of the viewing public. It's now more than 25 years since they started broadcasting and the ratings for their evening news show are still much lower than for TV1, even though I consider 3 News to be a much…

Alfie

Fri, 29 May 2015 14:08:21 +1200

I like that Te Waha Nui has posted a piece about the Listener music critic fiasco too.
Thanks for that Alastair — here's the story you reference.

I can almost understand Julie Christie's 'Let them eat crap' logic. Her contribution to local television over the years has always been lowbrow…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 14:07:58 +1200

I'm going to abuse this space with my two celebrity sightings of JC.

First was one morning after I'd dropped the car off for a service and was riding up the hill past TV3. It was a beautiful day and I was just enjoying the freedom of riding. Mr Campbell…

Alastair Thompson

Fri, 29 May 2015 13:59:48 +1200

Very well said Russell.

Remember also that the day after John Drinnan unofficially announced the original axing Tim Murphy announced his resignation too.

And that today on the day that Campbell Live ends 186 Fairfax editorial staff have been told they have to apply for their own jobs.

For both…

WaterDragon

Fri, 29 May 2015 13:59:01 +1200

Like so many others I am gutted at the demise of Campbell Live from the TV3 chanel. It coincides with my departure from watching anything on TV3. The successive emasculation of our public media by assorted tosspots is something that I can live without. As for Mike Hoskings, pfft!

Helga

Fri, 29 May 2015 13:23:12 +1200

The one piece of cheer in that article is 0/10 for Banks

Robert Fox

Fri, 29 May 2015 13:09:52 +1200

Like this you mean
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/8026536/Brownlee-The-Press-is-the-enemy

Kumara Republic

Fri, 29 May 2015 13:03:22 +1200

Yup – I keep harping on about this but The Press has been no better than average on the Insurance and EQC issues. The news reporting and features have been there but there is only a resigned editorial ambivalence towards the plight of their readers who are still suffering. If…

Robert Fox

Fri, 29 May 2015 12:54:46 +1200

Kumara Republic

Fri, 29 May 2015 12:34:23 +1200

Doubtless to the chagrin of many of his colleagues, Mike Hosking’s inane editorialising peaked this week in this incredible 48-second Mike’s View entitled I want to see news about how happy we all are. He dismissively rattles off a list of things he doesn’t want to hear about

The Korean…

Helga

Fri, 29 May 2015 12:19:43 +1200

It takes a government to establish a new public service TV channel and if it's not already Labour policy I'll be surprised. Campbell Live redux on TV7 redux?

Hebe

Fri, 29 May 2015 12:12:56 +1200

Campbell Live's coverage of post quake Christchurch has ventured beyond anywhere TVNZ and to its shame the Press are proactively willing to tread. Where Campbell live led other media grudgingly had to follow.Thousands of people in Christchurch have been treated appallingly by the the government through EQC, and the Insurance…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 12:07:17 +1200

I've been reading more than few comments about how quality journalism is not Mediaworks' problem. It isn't their fault that CampbellLive was the only surviving TV journalism and they were merely making the correct commercial decision.

Which sounds fine until you realise two things:
The first is that while CampbellLive…

Mike O'Connell

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:59:11 +1200

Oh gosh, quite forgot, it's Friday and my brain is elsewhere!

Paul Brislen

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:58:49 +1200

Afflict the comfortable, comfort the afflicted. That's what I want from my journalism, from my news gatherers.

Challenge those in positions of authority to keep them honest, act as a Fourth Estate and play a part in raising the consciousness of the nation.

I remember not understanding words on TV…

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:58:14 +1200

If Mr Hosking wants people to be happy he could start by retiring and then perhaps move on to another country ... I hear the 'stans are always looking for lickspittles.

Bart Janssen

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:55:29 +1200

A great effort from the New Hope. Who is he? Will he be back?

It seems so. He’s here on Twitter and here on Facebook.

I'm not sure why but his style reminded me strongly of a certain child of a well known blogger and media commentator.

He also made…

Myles Thomas

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:47:04 +1200

Around 6.45 tonight Aucklanders are gathering outside TV3 for a Campbell-Light Vigil. A final sendoff. What better way to mourn the passing of nightly current-affairs in NZ.

Tim Michie

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:43:06 +1200

space for a Jon Stewart Daily Show take on things. Ahem Brown Eye.

Tim Michie

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:40:41 +1200

We all remembered Campbell Live was there. And it was there when people needed a voice, Christchurch as mentioned, Cave Creek, poverty etc. My impression of this advocacy is it stayed on the issue and the programme didn't make it all about itself – quite a temptation in the current…

Mike O'Connell

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:26:45 +1200

Don't be too despndent, there's always The Civilian: MediaWorks confirms reruns of Road Cops is its new current affairs show. Love this... 'Road Cops is a "natural evolution" of Campbell Live... [Mark] Jennings said that the stars of Road Cops had spent “much more time” in local and…

Cecelia

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:20:28 +1200

Is he called White Man Behind a Desk???? Very good.

John Campbell and his team have excelled themselves this week. TV 3 does not deserve them.

Russell Brown

Fri, 29 May 2015 11:14:02 +1200

A great effort from the New Hope. Who is he? Will he be back?

It seems so. He’s here on Twitter and here on Facebook.

Sacha

Fri, 29 May 2015 10:39:43 +1200

I feel so helpless about the stuff that seems so wrong in NZ these days. What can I do about it?

I'm supporting Action Station to help galvanise community action beyond our disappointing party political system.

There are many community groups and volunteers who do wonderful, practical things to improve…

Ianmac

Fri, 29 May 2015 10:11:20 +1200

A great effort from the New Hope. Who is he? Will he be back?

Ianmac

Fri, 29 May 2015 10:09:30 +1200

I feel so helpless about the stuff that seems so wrong in NZ these days. What can I do about it? Not much but to see Campbell Live in action is to offer a glimmer of hope. Someone cares. Someone is doing something positive.
But now the screen is blank.…

Robert Fox

Fri, 29 May 2015 10:01:37 +1200

George Darroch

Fri, 29 May 2015 09:29:57 +1200

Really good television is about the full range of emotions. Campbell Live delivered that, night after night. Joy, wonder, fear, shock, surprise, anger, sadness, pathos, love. Often all in the same story.

That’s why it has our hearts.

Russell Brown

Fri, 29 May 2015 09:28:38 +1200

The Ruminator has a great, wonderful, heartfelt post from Ali Ikram:

Only last week the news was delivered that the show would not go on. Originally, the intention was for everything to tick along for another six-to-eight weeks while a replacement was readied. But it soon became evident that wasn’t…

Craig Ranapia

Fri, 29 May 2015 09:24:17 +1200

I want to see news about how happy we all are

And you know what, Mike, Campbell Live did plenty of warm-fuzzy human interest fluff. Some people might even say too much. But actual honest to dog journalism is about how unhappy people can be. If it had been up…

Hilary Stace

Fri, 29 May 2015 09:23:45 +1200

This family is angry about the end of Campbelllive. We were angry when TV7 finished too. I don't know about other NZers but I would guess that there are many other angry people out there too. So where will that collective anger go?

Public Address

Fri, 29 May 2015 09:23:45 +1200

Discussion from blog post.