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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, with all due disrespect to the Beeb, Russell, you'd think its employees would be too busy trying to restore their own credibility to be flushing Wikipedia's down the loo.</p></blockquote><p>If you're talking about the faked phone-ins and the attempt to fit up the Queen, that's an example of how…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						And as for 'reliably amusing Instaputz' &ndash; thanks for reminding me why about 95% of the American blogs I currently check out regularly are about anything <em>except</em> politics.
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She strikes me as a bit of a noob. The reliably amusing Instaputz has been keeping score.</p></blockquote><p>Oy... someone really needs to engrave this phrase on Althouse's laptop: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS AND WING-NUTS.  She is a really excellent law-blogger, but lately she seems to be rising to every bit…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><em>Quite the variety coming out of BNZ/NAB.</em></p><p>Heh I have a fair idea of who that might be. But I'll let him out himself :)</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>BBC's initial story neglects to mention BBC-sourced edits, many of them innocuous, a few likely to bring the Beeb into disrepute.</p></blockquote><p>Well, with all due disrespect to the Beeb, Russell, you'd think its employees would be too busy trying to restore their own credibility to be flushing Wikipedia's down the…</p>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>so...</p><p>Wouldn't it be intriguing if such a tool existed for conservapedia.  Fewer entries, I'm sure, but the strike rate would be better.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>which of my co-workers is obsessed with editing the 'English Folk Music' page.</p></blockquote><p>Well Harry Orsman passed away already, but it's bound to be someone from Old or Middle English.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Quite the variety coming out of <a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=203.57.240.0-203.57.241.255&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">BNZ/NAB</a>.</p><p>Nice to see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&amp;oldid=32315888" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">somebody counting the rationalist, atheists and humanists</a> though.</p>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I'm holding out for the possibility [the treasurers] like pendants too ...</p></blockquote><p>if they do. i'm selling a bunch at <a href="http://www.wellingtonista.com/craft-2-0-is-on-again-tomorrow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">craft 2.0</a> tomorrow.</p><p></disgraceful self promotion></p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>That's easy, I'm editing Danyl Mclauchlan's page.</em></p><p>You better have a reference for that stuff about me and Chuck Norris.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Ah &ndash; I screwed up the Fonterra search last night. There are <a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=202.50.184.0-202.50.187.255&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">some edits</a></p><p>The include a number of edits on milk, rennet, Fonterra, etc, but they all look factually-based and uncontroversial.</p><p>There is/was a fan of horrorcore working for the company though, and someone who's very keen on pro wrestling.</p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<blockquote>But I'm holding out for the possibility they like pendants too ...</blockquote>Or there's a lot of danglers.
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Great, the wikiscanner site is down. Now what am I supposed to do all day?</p></blockquote><p>That's easy, I'm editing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Danyl_Mclauchlan&amp;action=edit" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Danyl Mclauchlan's</a> page.</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>Treasury is the natural home of the pendant.</em></p><p>Surely you mean the natural home of the <strong>pedant</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, I did. But I'm holding out for the possibility they like pendants too ...</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Re: Music bundle  </p><p>Some interesting observations here on album downloads and a good music site generally. Is your album release strategy the right one? EMI is doing something on this at the moment as Coolfer notes.</p><blockquote><p>EMI has increased its digital album market share by 5% in the last two…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						From the <a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=210.8.218.0-210.8.218.127&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Lion Nathan</a> list, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&amp;oldid=139736832" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">vandalism</a> of the article on Australian comic Mick Molloy.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=202.36.172.0-202.36.173.255&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Treasury</a> is the natural home of the pendant.</p><p>The Reserve Bank and MCH both resolve to third parties.</p><p>Got a result from <a href="http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/f.php?ip1=++139.163.0.0-139.163.255.255&amp;ip2=&amp;ip3=&amp;ip4=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Qantas</a>  too. Nothing scandalous that I can see, but "Changed NZ Island references around. The South Island is colder than the North," is quite funny.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Well the VUW addresses all resolve to our proxy servers so I can't track down which of my co-workers is obsessed with editing the 'English Folk Music' page.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Ah, thanks Alan. It was the address block trick I didn't know.</p><p>Well, there goes <em>my</em> day ...</p>
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				<title>Alan Macdougall</title>
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						<p>Use up hours of time like this: poke the website name of your favourite organisation into a reverse DNS thingy (I use <a href="http://www.bankes.com/nslookup.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this website</a>, but there are others).</p><p>Take the resulting IP address, and poke it into the <a href="http://www.apnic.net/db/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">WHOIS form at APNIC</a> (for Asia-Pacific addresses, you see &ndash; there are…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Some more:</p><p>BBC's initial story <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6947532.stm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">neglects to mention BBC-sourced edits</a>, many of them innocuous, a few likely to bring the Beeb into disrepute.</p><p>LGF lizards <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26669" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">go predictably apeshit</a>.</p><p>BBC Interactive's editor addresses it all in <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/08/wikipedia_edits.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">quite an intelligent blog post</a>, in which he also admits to having corrected his own…</p>
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				<title>JP Hansen</title>
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						<p>Not directly related. Not related at all actually, but The Onion couldn't have written a better story.</p><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20070816/pl_bloomberg/ajkoyhuchw0m;_ylt=AnjR6LHRu9ic5b4ZhvdRpQOs0NUE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Pentagon Paid $999,798 to Ship Two 19-Cent Washers to Texas</a></p>
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				<title>Lyndon Hood</title>
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						<p>Less sinister: <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/science_technology/tory+party+warthogs+smell+of+poo/680567" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tory Party: warthogs 'smell of poo'</a></p><p>On another note, I'm not really a brewer, but I can't help thinking using brewers yeast rather than growing their own sacrificed some authenticity (admittedly perhaps on the altar of non-poisonousness).</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I edit mine. They are both looking at the bottom line AND petty and vain.
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						I must edit my last comment: those two possibilites are not mutually exclusive.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is Wikipedia so important that corporations and governments are prepared to risk the humiliaton of being caught altering pages?</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely. It's the world's biggest encyclopedia, and the highest ranking Google source. And every advertiser and propagandist knows that controlling access to information is vital to their business. I don't think…</p>
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				<title>Paul Litterick</title>
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						<p>Well, there goes my day. This is so much fun. </p><p>This raises Questions, of course. Is Wikipedia so important that corporations and governments are prepared to risk the humiliaton of being caught altering pages? Or are corporations and governments just very petty and vain?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Great, the wikiscanner site is down. Now what am I supposed to do all day?</p></blockquote><p>Keep trying. You know you want it.</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Great, the wikiscanner site is down. Now what am I supposed to do all day?
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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