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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p>Stephen, hope you had a good break, I know I did &ndash; lovely beach weather.</p><blockquote><p>All men are privileged over women by the actions of a few, whether men want to be or not, because of the fear of violence they can induce. I think that is feminism 101, and…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<p>Oh I love this site. From this............</p><blockquote><p>I'd rather do a map for areas of New Zealand. There'd be a lot of red on mine!</p></blockquote><p>to this...............</p><blockquote><p>All men are privileged over women by the actions of a few, whether men want to be or not, because of the fear of…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 09:44:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
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						It's probably prudent not to rely too much on what either side claims, ie. the Iranians saying that "it was all a bit of a cock-up by the RN and we just kept the marines and sailors as our guests for a while" or the UK newspapers now stating that…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 21:57:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I still think argumentum ad baculum is the best fallacy, and if you disagree I'll bash you.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:52:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Wouldn't a latin name be more plonky than a number? Argumentum ad analogium or something like?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:49:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Today seems to be false analogy day on PA System. No, I don't need to accept any of the things you propose. They are hypothetical extensions of a weak analogy which I don't find approriate.If you do, more power to you, but I will then put on my plonking voice…
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>xactly. All men are privileged over women by the actions of a few, whether men want to be or not, because of the fear of violence they can induce.</p></blockquote><p>You want to be careful with that line of "indirect power by proxy = personal power".  Otherwise you'll be needing to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:04:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Riddley Walker wrote:<br /><em>hope you'll be a little more compelling in your 3 minutes of fame Craig</em></p><p>Well, you'll have to wait and see.  You won't, however, find any stealth F-bombs in my segment. Sorry.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:01:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>yeah, he is a master. crowley did that for me.<br />i hate sticky date pudding, ate it to be polite. now off to dream</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>No, that I didn't know, sounds like one of Riddley's favourites too. I read a little Carlos debunking, but felt that anyone who can stimulate that much thought in me, deserves to be left intact, especially,<br />Stopping the world and the second attention; saved from many a boardroom disaster.</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						for the cream, for the sticky date pudding. one of carlos's favourites you know
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<blockquote><p>spooky. i just bought some</p></blockquote><p>Cake?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:13:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>"and yours assumes male power over females."</p><p>In a broad aggregate, in this society, that's a pretty safe assumption. In terms of who senses intimidation from whom, anyway,</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>3410: Your argument lacks a vital ingredient: Muslim power over non-muslims.</p></blockquote><p>and yours assumes male power over females.</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						spooky. i just bought some
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Vanilla essence is deception.
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>...and the essence of warfare is deception.<br />Sun Sen</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>When love is absent, power quickly fills the vacuum.<br />Jung.</p>
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				<title>Gregor Ronald</title>
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						It's a powerful ju-ju, this four letter word. Why are rational people so excited when it's used in public? It's a word, fer crissake! I'm with Billy Connolly on this; he used to start concerts with a hundred "fuck fuck fuck"s, and then the audience were desensitized.
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						Exactly. All men are privileged over women by the actions of a few, whether men want to be or not, because of the fear of violence they can induce. I think that is feminism 101, and any man who's walked home at night, no matter how well intentioned, and watched…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 20:29:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Malcolm</title>
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						3410:  Your argument lacks a vital ingredient:  Muslim power over non-muslims.
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						Good grief, no.  I'm not interested in arguing about the (im)moral structure of terrorism by making analogies with rape.
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>To make my explanation of the 'all men are rapists' claim work, you really need to run with the idea that rape is not about sex, it's about power.</p></blockquote><p>So, the 'all muslims are terrorists' claim works when you run with the idea that terrorism is not about violence, it's…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>Ooops!  Critical step I left out....</p><p>To make my explanation of the 'all men are rapists' claim work, you really need to run with the idea that rape is not about sex, it's about power.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>Neil: It's ludicrous, but it fits with the current US administration's position that negotiation is for weaklings. Blair's success is an implicit criticism of the current US "conservative" doctrine, and as such neocon cheerleaders like Derbyshire must say things like that lest the faithful begin to doubt.</p><p>It's pretty funny…</p>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't subscribe to the 'All Men Are Rapists' mantra</p></blockquote><p>Neither do I.  I have lived with a man for nearly 18 years now, and it is simply not a way that he could be characterised.  He's a polar opposite to that idea.  And indeed, virtually all the men I…</p>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<p>Derbyshire's comments are pretty in ya-face-odious but another ridiculous line of reasoning he and others are making is that this is some sort of defeat for Blair and Britain.</p><p>My reading of this is that Blair stood his ground and the Iranians blinked. Blair gave nothing away and warned of…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>Nobody Important, </p><p>After I posted I thought about it a bit and realised that I should've perhaps taken the time to explain a bit more.</p><p>My point is that most men (at least all those I know), are totally against that sort of behaviour, not just personally but socially.  I…</p>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
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						<blockquote><p>even here there is (seemingly) no support for the idea that men as a group need to address this issue?</p></blockquote><p>There's support alright.  You don't tell pedestrians how not to get hit by drunk drivers, you tell people not to drive drunk or let their mates drive drunk.  Yet just…</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<blockquote><p>However, these Iranians are from the elite Revolutionary Guard and had no business in Iraq.</p></blockquote><p>These are not the elite Revolutionary Guards you are looking for...</p>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Unfair, I suggest. I've never perpetrated a sexual assault, and have twice stepped in to prevent one.     <br /><em>[and]</em><br />Misandric crap is indeed no more attractive than misogynistic crap</p></blockquote><p>Sheesh, men are so sensitive! Why am I not surprised that even here there is (seemingly) no support for the idea that…</p>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						Yeah, good news that the British sailors have been released. I can see why the connection is made with the Iranian detainees that the US nabbed in Iraq. However, these Iranians are from the elite Revolutionary Guard and had no business in Iraq. I think the US should send them…
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Dude who knows, but I did like Wille Nelson singing Old Shoe, especially the briefing session for the song.
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						i thought <em>Wag the Dog</em> was just another Left Wing Conspiracy against those well-meaning trans-national media conglomerates?
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>(And since I've brought it up: the schoolboy rape story is awful; esp on the heels of our own Police rape allegations. When are MEN going to own this problem?)</em></p><p>Unfair, I suggest. I've never perpetrated a sexual assault, and have twice stepped in to prevent one.</p></blockquote><p>Misandric crap is…</p>
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						Mr Riddley have you not seen Wag The Dog?
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						Hey that's in A Distant Mirror! (palm oil alert!). First, and Hawkwood was good at this, they would ask for money, the priests would levy the populace, if the populace wouldn't pay up, the pressure was on. Sometimes to curry great favour, Hawkwood would (is that alliteration?) kill teh Priests.…
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p><em>would have been in there like a Falklands minute</em></p><p>well... i thought it a remarkable coincidence that the only female in the detail just happended to give a piece to camera interview on 'it's all part of the job, rah rah, britannia waves the rules' etc, just the day before…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Yup, that's how the old wars were fought (including last century's). Just keep throwing more troops at the enemy til someone wins. Nevermind the deathtoll.</p></blockquote><p>A moment's derail: that's simply not true.  Medieval European warfare had all sorts of informal protocols around battles, most of which were designed to reduce…</p>
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						Damn, if they had of got themselves killed we would have been in there like a Falklands minute, and Jeb could go for the Presidency and all would be well in teh world.
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						<p>Yes that would about cover it, you'd think. Obviously this is beyond American right wing pundits and their acolytes.</p><p>Now Little Goofballs are apparently getting their knickers in a twist about Nancy Pelosi wearing a headscarf.Then they insist that it about whether she should be in Syria or not.</p><p><a href="http://www.mahablog.com/2007/04/04/pelosi-wears-scarf-righties-bark-at-moon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>…</p>
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						<p>I assume the training involves</p><p>"Look if somone demands you say something on a video just go along with it so as not to antagonise them, we'll all know you did not mean it, the most important thing is not to play the hero."</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Those people are weird in a very bad way</p></blockquote><p>It is the pride in that weirdness that is so very unsettling. The apologies in the Carroll case were all very muted and in a couple of cases people commented that they stood by what they had said at first.</p><p>Would…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>"Modern warfare is much more civilised inasmuch that fewer soldiers are actually killed; which stops the nation from complaining sooner. (But America finally seems to be waking up to their Bush folly)"</p><p>Oh if only this was true! </p><p>Millions died in Vietnam; A million Iranians died fighting in the war…</p>
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						<p>"Modern warfare is much more civilised inasmuch that fewer soldiers are actually killed"</p><p>I'd make a minor correction. Modern warfare by superpowers against small nations are more civilised in that the superpowers have less soldiers killed. The other side's losses are of course much bigger now than they have ever…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>(And since I've brought it up: the schoolboy rape story is awful; esp on the heels of our own Police rape allegations. When are MEN going to own this problem?)</p></blockquote><p>Unfair, I suggest. I've never perpetrated a sexual assault, and have twice stepped in to prevent one.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>"...It is the job of a Royal Marine to fight, and if necessary suffer and die, for his country..."</p></blockquote><p>Yup, that's how the old wars were fought (including last century's).  Just keep throwing more troops at the enemy til someone wins.  Nevermind the deathtoll. </p><p>Modern warfare is much more civilised…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>At the end of the day, U.S. commentators like Derbyshire have a disturbingly fascist bias towards the glorification of violence as an end unto itself.</p></blockquote><p>So long, of course, as it doesn't personally involve them or their children.</p><p>You may recall the release of American journalist Jill Carroll in Iraq.…</p>
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						<blockquote>I don't know how outraged opinion has been in the U.K. over this sailor thing. I assume its split along partisan lines with the Telegraph demanding that gunboats be dispatched to treat the beastly Persians to a lesson in Her Majesty's justice, and the Independent and Guardian insisting on a…</blockquote>
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						<p>Ohhhh, having just read the Derbyshire diatribe, I ahve to observe &ndash; it doesn't make sense. Firstly, he seems to think that everyone getting killed is a more a desirable outcome to everyone going home &ndash;</p><p> "...It is the job of a Royal Marine to fight, and if necessary suffer…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						*follow their lead (Australia)
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Isn't Prime news australian focused? So perhaps they just follow the lea a little too closely. I can imagine in Australia the cellphone case is far more important.
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						<p>It's good news that the captured British sailors are to be released </p><p>Anyone else bemused that while this story was the lead item on TV1's <em>Breakfast</em> news bulletins this morning, it came up LAST on Prime's <em>Today Show</em> news bulletins?? WTF?</p><p>The Aussie news' lead story was about some Aussie…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>As I understood it, the sailors were following rules of engagement (or in this case, non-engagement) and surely should only have been court-martialed if they'd ignored those and opened fire.</p></blockquote><p>Their "cowardice" apparently consists of (a) not shooting when they wre hopelessly outgunned, and (b) going along with the banal…</p>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>Here's where I've been.</p><p><a href="http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=CAUSARCLEGLYATBYBEBAHRCZDKFIFRDEGRISIEITLILUMKMCNLNOPLRUYUSKSISECHUKVABHTRAECNINSGTHAUFJPFNZCK" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Places Brent's visited</a></p><p>I am not sure that a day in Hong Kong should entitle me to get all of China coloured in, but hey ...</p><p>Very disappointed that Antartica wasn't there, that would've given a huge red swathe across the bottom of my map ...…</p>
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						<p>I think Mr Darbyshire is upset that someone took his causus belli (sic) away.</p><p><br />I wonder what Mr Farrar is going to say now?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But isn't the first stage of making a complaint to the BSA notifying the broadcaster that you have a problem with a specific incident, and then if you have no luck you then complain to the BSA?</p></blockquote><p>True. But if you're the Minister of Broadcasting, you do so in a…</p>
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						<p>here's my  <a href="http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=AOBWEGKEMWMUMZZASZTZZWDKFRDEGRITNLNOSECHUKVABHCYILCNIDMYSGAUFJPFNCNZTOVUWS " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> 'Hater of Freedom'</a> map.</p><p><em>Meh... If the poor...[through to] ... engage in auto-etoticism?<br /></em></p><p>hope you'll be a little more compelling in your 3 minutes of fame Craig</p>
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						I don't know how outraged opinion has been in the U.K. over this sailor thing. I assume its split along partisan lines with the Telegraph demanding that  gunboats be dispatched to treat the beastly Persians to a lesson in Her Majesty's justice,  and the Independent and Guardian insisting on a…
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						<p>Jamie Anstice:</p><p>Yes &ndash; but if Steve Maharey doesn't like that, then he's in a much better position than most to amend the Broadcasting Act.   Maharey has apparently decided not to lay a formal complaint with Radio New Zealand, so let's just hope he's going to have a nice long…</p>
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						<p>Now there's a book, Generals Always Die In Bed, by Charles Yale Harrison. I mention this because don't you just love the way John and Ralph above can rant on about how sailors should fight or be court-martialed. Ever seen All Quiet On The Western Front, boys?<br />Are these people…</p>
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						<p>As I understood it, the sailors were following rules of engagement (or in this case, non-engagement) and surely should only have been court-martialed if they'd ignored those and opened fire.</p><p>Anyway, as Russell said, it seems to have worked out reasonably well. I don't think Western powers getting in a…</p>
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				<title>Neil Morrison</title>
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						<p><a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MGNkYmUxOTAyMmZkNWU5ZGQ2YTAxMmJiNmQ3MDRmNmU=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">John Derbyshire</a> supporting the British sailors:</p><blockquote><p>Once again, it's me and Ralph Peters on the same wavelength, deploring the cowardice of the British sailors and marines kidnapped by Iran. When it happened, I said I hoped the ones who'd shamed their country would be court-martialed on return to Blighty, and…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Make a BSA complaint, take a ticket and stand in line with the rest of us</p></blockquote><p>But isn't the first stage of making a complaint to the BSA notifying the <strong>broadcaster</strong> that you have a problem with a specific incident, and then if you have no luck you then complain…</p>
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						One of the joys of insomnia is that I get to watch a lot of BBC World (on the free telly, not the rich folks one). Watching his press conference this morning I found myself musing on how much Mahmoud Ahmadinejad resembles the <a href="http://www.sylvanianfamilies.com/index.php?cPath=21_7" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Sylvanian Families hedgehogs</a>. Surely someone who resembles…
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>I like how a visit to tiny li'l Hawaii also marks big ol' Alaska too.</p><p><em>(But what about the carbon footprint?!)</em></p><p>I'd rather do a map for areas of New Zealand. There'd be a lot of red on mine!</p>
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				<title>Michael Burns</title>
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						<p>Dissapointed to see you haven't been to New Zealand Russell. You really should check it out, it's a lovely place.</p><p>Here's mine (Russia and Canada do help make it look a lot more impressive than it actually is)</p><p><a href="http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=CAUSCZFRDEIEITNLRUCHUKVASGKRAUNZ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=CAUSCZFRDEIEITNLRUCHUKVASGKRAUNZ</a></p>
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						<blockquote><p>Could some tech-savvy at-risk youth explain to me how I get Public Address radio onto my iPod . . ?</p></blockquote><p>Coming your way. Radio Live initially wanted to host the full-show podcast, but didn't get around to it, so we'll do it this week.</p><p>And then there were problems getting…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>For those who are wondering where the piece on election funding is, it's here</p></blockquote><p>Duh. Sorry ...</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><em>I'm rather less exercised by the actual cussing that some people are having conniptions about.</em></p><p>Meh... If the poor little darling can't handle Question Time, then I respectfully suggest he had in his ministerial warrant and fuck off back to academia.  I also pointed out on Kiwiblog the amusing irony…</p>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						For those who are wondering where the piece on election funding is, it's <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2007/04/closer-look-election-funding.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>
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						<p>So here is where I have visited:</p><p><a href="http://www.world66.com/myworld66/visitedCountries/worldmap?visited=CAUSMXBRADATBEBABGQIHRCZFRDEGRIELILUNLYUESSECHUKVAIRTRINJPNPPKAUNZ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Places I have Visited</a></p><p>Interesting to see the old overland from Kathmandu to London trail mapped out. It was from when I should have been in 7th form and dad wanted to go traveling. He was only allowed to go if he took…</p>
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						Could some tech-savvy at-risk youth explain to me how I get Public Address radio onto my iPod . . ?
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:22:31 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:22:31 +1200</pubDate>
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