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				<title>3410</title>
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						@RW. Wow, what an awesome resource.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:36:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						NatRad this morning had the Korean student in the States for only eight months ?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:58:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						3410 <a href="http://www.arts.auckland.ac.nz/research/index.cfm?P=436 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> elaboration as requested</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:54:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>there was nada, zip, zilch.</p></blockquote><p>Wha...?? Have you not seen Life on Mars? Noizyboy where are you? What's the name of that Scrapbooking programme you recommend?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:43:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The bit that gets my ire up is the alleged 'newsbreaks' where they deliberately don't tell you the news to bait you into watching the main show later on. That's not a newsbreak, its a bloody ad break.</p></blockquote><p>"I'm Kent Brockman. On the eleven o'clock news tonight: A certain type…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:29:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Interesting how quickly the VT shooters status as an immigrant has been pushed to the front of the news stories.  <br />[and]</p><p>Interesting &ndash; online, the updated Herald story says he arrived in the US 15 years ago. In the print edition, it says he arrived last month...</p></blockquote><p>Yup &ndash; the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:06:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						Interesting &ndash; online, the updated Herald story says he arrived in the US 15 years ago. In the print edition, it says he arrived last month...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:51:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is the book Fiscadoro?</p></blockquote><p>No, it is called Riddley Walker and may have inspired another poster from here abouts.</p><p>Boston Legal does have some good moments, I admit. Last nights was the first I had watched since ages ago and I did like it. <br />I also usually watch Top Gear…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:48:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						it is amazing how often timothy mcveigh is never mentioned in relation to the most devastation acts of terrorism in the last 20 years.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:43:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"he killed 168? nah... lemme know when a decent body count comes up. hold on! do we have a shot of the gunman walking anywhere?"</p></blockquote><p>Interesting how quickly the VT shooters status as an immigrant has been pushed to the front of the news stories. Never mind that he's lived…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:40:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<p>the daniel i referred to earlier in the piece did a study of the transition from 1/2 hour to 1 hour news.</p><p>he found that <em>actual content</em> had decreased, but <em>chat</em> (the fronts talking shit to one another) had increased, as had ads.</p><p>so... more "news" but less, well, news.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:33:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						The bit that gets my ire up is the alleged 'newsbreaks' where they deliberately don't tell you the news to bait you into watching the main show later on. That's not a newsbreak, its a bloody ad break.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:26:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>Brief RB via the secret interweb of course. And yes, guns in America and that word...rampage.<br />Factoid, an Indian woman placed an awl in the dead Custer's ear to remind him to listen next time...</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:25:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<p><em>"This thread needs to go on forever, as a live-bloggin' record of shabby TV news practices."</em></p><p>I'm with you on this one 3410!</p><p>BTW &ndash; does anyone know what Helen Clark did for 9 hours on the water waiting for the wind to blow? I mean, she may may be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:15:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Close-Up trailer: "The worst massacre in US history".</p></blockquote><p>worse than say, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai_lai" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">my lai</a>? or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wounded knee</a>?</p><p>the cynic in me is wondering when gun-toting americans killing one another will no longer be news.</p><p>"he killed 168? nah... lemme know when a decent body count comes up. hold on! do we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:13:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Is the book Fiscadoro? We call it rich peoples TV, weird, and habit it is with me yes. I do like the show "House" though and Boston Legal really has it's moments, so there are good shows, but there are so many other things to do, like read impossible books.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:12:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						Last month, I said to myself "You are being too harsh, even elitist, there must be something to watch and it would stop you obsessing on that book about the post apocalyptic boy" So I went through the programme listings trying to find something to watch. there was nada, zip,…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:48:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<blockquote><p>or even the bleached toothpick of pretty interesting.</p></blockquote><p>Hehe, I'm switching off, weaning myself off my TV news habit, nasty as nicotine. After I left adland I didn't watch TV for 2 years, I'm heading that way again.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:31:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						<p>I thought Garth George was trying the luvverble old curmudgeon bit. Failed of course with railing against the people who dared to write to him  disagreeing with his anti GW hogwash.<br />The TV news thing that grates with me is the interminable live crosses to things that are not really…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:23:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Haldane Dodd</title>
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						The contrast between CNN and CNN International during last night's Virginia Tech coverage was marked... Wolf Blitzer in his Situation Room was shouting questions and observations at reporters, witnesses and the viewer...  the two presenters who first fronted the breaking news were following the usual set of inane questions that…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:02:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						Haven't been back to CNN since.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:00:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						Controlling emotion regardless of what news is being read is, of course, the art of the professional broadcaster.  Phillip Sherry many yonks ago had a 'one face fits all' style of delivery a la Cronkite (mind you it could have been a rubber mask), and dear old Richard Long was…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:58:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Kath, cough, cough, that would be Kath who would be you by osmosis.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:49:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						Intriguing, Riddley. Please elaborate.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:46:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						<p>Absoluteloy? </p><p>Have i been turned into Kel by osmosis?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:44:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
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						Mmmm the walk on shot, now there is one part of the news presentation that serves absoluteloy no purpose whatsoever. The walk-on shot is probably my most coveted hatred of television media in general, that and bad continuity.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:42:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p><em>no-one is DVD-recording</em></p><p>you mean 1 and 3 tv news? it is being continually logged in its entirety ad has been for years, if that's what you mean. and not by the broadcasters either.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:30:47 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Close-Up trailer: "The worst massacre in US history".</p><p>If they don't know any history, couldn't they at least learn how to use Google?</p></blockquote><p>You're assuming that they value accuracy.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:30:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						one of the more distatsteful aspects of these tragedies' coverage i find, is the desperate attempts of the correspondents to mute their excitement. i can understand their excitement, and i know it doesn't mean they like what's happened or aren't truly appalled by it, but the excitement comes through often.…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>SG, <br />This thread needs to go on forever, as a live-bloggin' record of shabby TV news practices. I can hardly believe that, as of Apr. '07, no-one is DVD-recording, and YouTube-embedding these myriad embarrassments, C&amp;L-style. Props to Dannews, but more needs to be done. (Note: such appropriation <strong>is</strong> protected by s.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:28:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Garth needs a hug, really.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:27:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>yes that is a nice voice isn't it m?<br />GG should've listened to the "Warning, warning, pull up, pull up" a long time ago. he heard it, but thought it was a reference to his fly.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Response from TVNZ and TV3 &ndash; not one &ndash; not one &ndash; alteration to programming. Not one extended bulletin. No "Close-Up". Nothing. At All.</p></blockquote><p>A little like the response from the rest of the world since...much of what was pledged, including the governmental aid, didn't turn up. That mighty US…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Close-Up trailer: "The worst massacre in US history".</p><p>If they don't know any history, couldn't they at least learn how to use Google?</p>
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						Garth George on it...indescrible.
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						...or the voice on Flight Simulator 1.0, "Warning, warning, pull up, pull up", ineffably slow and silky, no hint of panic.
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>One News headline on Virginia Tech aftermath: "Authorities are under fire ..."</p><p>Oh dear.</p>
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				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13422#post13422</link>
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						<p>OK, this is my personal fav, when they interview an academic or pseud, they alway sit in front of a bookcase, always, and their book, if they have one, is always in view on the shelf behind the learned head, brilliant.<br />OK, fav 2, when they go in a pollies…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:17:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>B Jones</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13419#post13419</link>
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						<p>Copywriting:<br />Real estate agents think "Towering Inferno" is a great tagline for a highrise apartment building &ndash; nothing like the prospect of being trapped and burned to death to move property I suppose, unless they're talking about house prices.  In other crimes against the English language, I saw one once…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:46:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13418#post13418</link>
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						and the quickly putting away guinea pig under the counter shot.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:44:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Felix Marwick</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13417#post13417</link>
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						<blockquote><p>has anyone noticed that they always have experts walking past or towards the camera before they're interviewed.</p><p>it kind of says, "look dr. [whogivesashitreally] can walk in a straight line! s/he is therefore someone you should listen to attentively!</p></blockquote><p>If I may give away a few trade secrets.</p><p>That's probably…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:39:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13414#post13414</link>
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						<p>The crabs of ineffable wisdom, who pwn penile pesticide. </p><p>Sorry, what were we talking about again?</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:16:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13413#post13413</link>
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						<blockquote><p>As for the quality of "our news", the Boxing Day Tsunami was the low point.</p></blockquote><p>What annoyed me most about that news coverage was the solid month of competition over who could cram in the highest number of superlatives, imparted in a ringing thespian tenor.  It was like they were…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:14:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13412#post13412</link>
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						<p><em>like a loose but very loving guinea pig</em></p><p>that could be the origin of the crabs.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:08:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13410#post13410</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Can I just say that "Bosomworth" is an amazing name?</p></blockquote><p>He bears it very gracefully, along with a select few others.</p><p>He told me it's a Scottish name, and I figured out that the equivalent English would be "Broomwright", ie a maker of brooms (besoms).</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:55:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13408#post13408</link>
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						No, I was thinking of something more romantic, like a loose but very loving guinea pig.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:53:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						Or an overdose of Viagra?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:45:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13405#post13405</link>
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						or for a treatment for crabs
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:30:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13400#post13400</link>
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						<p>Whether it's <em>Quick to pick up, hard to put down</em> or <em>Easy to pick up, hard to put down</em> you have to admit they have some interesting alternative meanings, if you consider the "pick up" and "put down" bits in particular.</p><p>Sounds like a strapline for that infamous B-movie, __Bad…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:27:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13396#post13396</link>
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						They named him by committee? Wow, that's scientism for ya.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:25:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13393#post13393</link>
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						nothing like design by committee for truly horrible results
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:22:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13392#post13392</link>
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						Can I just say that "Bosomworth" is an amazing name?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:21:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mark Easterbrook</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13390#post13390</link>
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						<blockquote><p>A while back I decided to believe that ad writers were all being tongue in cheek/ironic/playing a joke at the world/frustrated doctoral students.</p></blockquote><p>Never get fooled into thinking that what you read is what the copywriter originally wrote. There are usually many, many levels of painful compromise.</p><p>An example: I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:16:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13389#post13389</link>
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						<blockquote><p>has anyone noticed that they always have experts walking past or towards the camera before they're interviewed.</p></blockquote><p>and it's written in the training manual that there must be a staged shot of expert talking to the receptionist in their office.</p><p>As for the quality of "our news", the Boxing Day…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:16:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13384#post13384</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Apart from the obvious cost savings in padding out your broadcast with other people's footage, perhaps some smart person knows that there are lots of Kiwi expats in Oz?</p></blockquote><p>Surely they're watching Australian news and not our news? I mean, that would make sense if it was lots of news…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:04:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13374#post13374</link>
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						<blockquote><p>television news is a soap opera that serves to reinforce the viewers' understanding of the world.<br />has anyone noticed that they always have experts walking past or towards the camera before they're interviewed.</p></blockquote><p>I cringed last week during 3 News' reporting of the 10 y.o. who escaped being dragged into…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:24:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13352#post13352</link>
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						<p>"was his first name daniel?"</p><p>Nope, this was John Bosomworth, who now works in a completely different field. (Nice guess that it was pol sci tho: I understand there was a big argument in the department whether the work was really pol sci or not).</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:04:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13326#post13326</link>
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						Most copywriters here, arn't, too small a market, too low the pay, too little the need for NZ companies to compete with engaging and well written copy.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:00:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13322#post13322</link>
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						A while back I decided to believe that ad writers were all being tongue in cheek/ironic/playing a joke at the world/frustrated doctoral students.  The alternative, that being that their copy is meant to be serious, was too hard to swallow.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:52:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13308#post13308</link>
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						<p>One in Mangere Bridge about a year ago:</p><p><strong>Perfect for people who don't like painting windows</strong></p><p>That's me, but I didn't fall for it...</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:31:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
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						<strong>PS</strong> stephen, i think i know the dr. pol-sci you're talking about. was his first name daniel?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:30:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Che Tibby</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13306#post13306</link>
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						<blockquote><p>television news is a soap opera that serves to reinforce the viewers' understanding of the world.</p></blockquote><p>has anyone noticed that they always have experts walking past or towards the camera before they're interviewed.</p><p>it kind of says, "look dr. [whogivesashitreally] can walk in a straight line! s/he is therefore someone…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:29:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13293#post13293</link>
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						<p>As an Occasional Copywriter, I am often highly amused by real estate agents' efforts when it comes to advertisements. </p><p>I think the best one so far was for a ground-floor unit with easy access. Hence, it was headlined:</p><p>                                       <strong>Disabled's Delight!</strong></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:08:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13290#post13290</link>
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						Would NZ exist at all if the News didn't? Living overseas was brilliant, if only for the release of the continual stranglehold the News has here, it's like the partyline phone on a lonely Vigil farm, in Winter, and it's raining, cue Minstrel.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:06:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13285#post13285</link>
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						<p>"why TV1 &amp; TV3 show so much Aussie news on our bulletins. A shooting in Wollomooloo has sod all to do with us."</p><p>Apart from the obvious cost savings in padding out your broadcast with other people's footage, perhaps some smart person knows that there are lots of Kiwi expats in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:54:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13277#post13277</link>
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						They write their own ads. We called it..."Clients who write their own ads", you can see it everywhere, but Real Estate is one of the best, Auckland Glass were good, so was the paint stripper guy, the mad butcher (brilliant name for CJD times). The horror of realtor ads is…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:32:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13273#post13273</link>
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						<blockquote>This is why when you go on holiday out of range of the news, and then come back, it's hard to "get into", just as if you had missed a couple of months of your favourite soap.</blockquote> Not quite, when I come back from OS I'm always asking the taxi…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:24:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13271#post13271</link>
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						<p><em>It makes you a smoker.</em></p><p>That too I guess, unfortunate habit that it is.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:56:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13270#post13270</link>
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						<blockquote><p>television news is a soap opera that serves to reinforce the viewers' understanding of the world</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, but, ahm, it also subtly and not-so-subtly <em>shapes</em> people's worldviews- no? So we all understand it's a <em>very dangerous world</em> out there that we need protection from, in so many ways. And we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:44:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13267#post13267</link>
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						<p>Thanks Stephen and Heather you have destroyed the thin veneer.<br />Head explodes.<br />Footnote, when I worked in advertising (long sigh of futility), we used the BNF (babies need food) principle (the only one we had really) to filter client product lies, I mean puffery, for example, Rinso Cleans!<br />Well one…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:20:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13265#post13265</link>
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						<blockquote><p>and next we see why babies need food</p></blockquote><p>I SAW THAT PIECE!  Cutting-edge research that concluded that mothers should eat healthily while they're pregnant.  Then they had a shot of a new mother and a voiceover saying something like "but you don't have to tell Grace that, she's just given…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:10:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13264#post13264</link>
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						<p>An old mate of mine did his doctoral thesis on television news and came to the conclusion that essentially television news is a soap opera that serves to reinforce the viewers' understanding of the world.</p><p>This is why when you go on holiday out of range of the news, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:10:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13261#post13261</link>
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						<p>Sunday mornings are ad-free.... except of course for the blatant and VERY extensive advertorial that's inserted in the NZ on Air funded What Now- 'cos our kids don't get enough exposure to ads at other times, see? </rant><br />Nobody Important- I saw that item and was similarly dismayed- a bogus rape…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:02:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13260#post13260</link>
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						<p>The old Network! Promos, the silly voice-overs..."and next we see why babies need food and where belly button fluff comes from, only on TV Chew.<br />30 minute show, <br />15 minutes actual show<br />8 minutes ads<br />7 minutes network promos<br />Priceless.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:31:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:25:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Americas Funniest Home Videos" has taken over my house at 6pm...I can't go back now.</p></blockquote><p>It's re-runs of <em>Who Wants to be a Millionaire (UK)</em> on Prime for us.  I resolved (suddenly) to stop watching the 6om news about 2 years ago, after one fluffy kitten story too many.  We…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:05:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nobody Important</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If anyone is interested in our declining news services, they need look no further than .......</p></blockquote><p>tonights (Monday) One network news late* edition. Sandwiched in the middle of their story on the bogus rape claimant was a brief description of the rapist who attacked a 12 y.o. in Hastings. <br />I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:37:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tim kong</title>
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						<p>Sort of off topic &ndash; but imho, cool nonetheless &ndash; particularly if Keith and other sundries are going to go pure digital and deliver.</p><p><a href="http://red.com/cameras.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://red.com/cameras.htm</a></p><p>Brought to you by the fellows who make Oakley sunglasses &ndash; and kickass in so many ways.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:52:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mike Graham</title>
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						<p>Nobody Important &ndash;</p><blockquote><p>I have often wondered what the point of 'crossing live' to a reporter at Auckland's viaduct has to do with a Wellington story.</p></blockquote><p>Agreed, and I've often wondered why they label the left and right screens with the locations, rather than with the name of the person…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:25:39 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>If anyone is interested in our declining news services, they need look no further than the US to be reassured. <em>(Where's that sarcasm emoticon?)</em>  </p><p>New(ish) CBS News Anchor Katie Couric does a first-person 'personal notebook' where she shares some folksy stuff to charm middle America. Unfortunately she doesn't actually write…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:21:35 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>"...If they needed to fly to Los Angeles to do a piece to camera in front of a building, it seemed, they just did it."<br />Any particular story in mind?<br />Yes, but I damned if I can remember what it was. I just recall sitting in front of the TV…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:00:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sundays were commercial free</p></blockquote><p>Recently I was browsing through the Broadcasting Act and I was surprised to discover that TV is still commercial-free on Sunday mornings &ndash; between 6am and midday.</p><p>I guess I should get out of bed earlier on the weekend.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:44:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						"Americas Funniest Home Videos" has taken over my house at 6pm...I can't go back now.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:39:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The fact that you sat at an outdoor table at SPQR doesn't make you a celeb. It makes you a poseur.</p></blockquote><p>It makes you a smoker.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:25:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How do you feel now?<br />Was that hard?<br />Are you going to apologise?<br />Can you tell us what you think of it?</p></blockquote><p>I can recall as a kid in 1989 when Monica Cantwell was murdered on Mt Maunganui, her mother was interviewed on TV by Susan Wood, who inquired "Were…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:11:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13205#post13205</link>
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						I like my vowels short though... and Cronkite makes me think of pulmonary issues, not current affairs.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:27:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>Kenny Brockelstein</p><div class="hr"><hr /></div><p>>     Kent Brockman<br />NZBC</p><div class="hr"><hr /></div><p>>     TVNZ</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:59:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Shouldn't that be..</p><p>I'm juuuuuuhhhhaaaaaa Saarinen....</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:46:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>Hi Rob</p><p>In slightly less ranting mode &ndash; I realise the whole name thing is probably a "directive". The thing about it for me is it is so obviously a marketing ploy.</p><p>I guess what was being attempted was to create a journo/reporter (I think there is a distinction) who…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:45:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Juha Saarinen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13199#post13199</link>
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						<p>How do you feel now?<br />Was that hard?<br />Are you going to apologise?<br />Can you tell us what you think of it?</p><p>I am Juha Saarinen, and you are reading my comment on Public Address. Good night!</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:42:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						I've not watched the TV news for a few years now, watched it a few weeks back and wow, it seemed really surreal, for a second I thought I was high.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:31:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						I've seen NZ TV develop almost since it's inception &ndash; from back in the old B&W days when Peter Empen, with his brilliantined SB&S, read the news with all the gravitas of an undertaker and Les Andrews used to sing Pedro the Fisherman every Sunday evening.  Riveting.  But once the Town & Around…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:41:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						To be fair on the journos, Bart, they have been <em>required</em> to "sign off" every story since, I think, the late eighties (eg, ending with: "...Bart Jonswattle, TV One news.")  My ex-boss- a fine wordsmith-  worked in TVNZ news for many years and almost quit when they said he had…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:40:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>reece palmer</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13189#post13189</link>
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						It has been this way for ages though, glaring inaccuracies covered by shmaltz and a down beat backing track. that isn't news. Neither is the supposedly newsworthy mention of a story that just happens to be on sixty minutes, right after campbell live folks. I've taken to watching prime news…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:22:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13186#post13186</link>
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						When the suits at TVNZ read all this, they may be Ng-camdescent with rage!!!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:04:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						When SWMBO and me came back from the UK 3 years ago we didn't bring the telly.  We still have yet to buy a TV card for any of the PC's.  Reading this I can't see any compelling reason to bother.  The strange thing is that after the first few…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:12:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Release the Ng cam!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:47:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13179#post13179</link>
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						<blockquote><p>...instead they will get Kieth Ng's digicam feed direct on public address.</p></blockquote><p>Bring it on!</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-biting-back-at-bill/?p=13177#post13177</link>
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						<blockquote><p>One key thing they did, which has come back to bite them on the arse, was deliberately create a celebrity culture.</p></blockquote><p><rant><br />For me that's the whole of the news now (and TV3 deserves brickbats as well). The idea that promotion for reality TV should be on any "news" programme is…</rant></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:32:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"...If they needed to fly to Los Angeles to do a piece to camera in front of a building, it seemed, they just did it."</p><p>Any particular story in mind?</p></blockquote><p>Sixty Minutes did a story in 1996 on OMC when we were sitting in London for seven weeks (actually flying…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:57:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonty</title>
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						Well at least the salary levels are directly proportional to the level of incompetence.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:55:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>johnno</title>
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						Perhaps an enterprising print journalist might want to track down someone who has worked at TV3's 60 Minutes, the Aussie 60 Minutes, and TVNZ's Sunday.  Then they could ask them which programme demanded the longest hours and had the fewest resources, and had to turn around the most stories per…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:53:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"...If they needed to fly to Los Angeles to do a piece to camera in front of a building, it seemed, they just did it."</p><p>Any particular story in mind?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, but I damned if I can remember what it was. I just recall sitting in front of the TV…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:35:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>johnno</title>
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						<p>"...If they needed to fly to Los Angeles to do a piece to camera in front of a building, it seemed, they just did it."</p><p>Any particular story in mind?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:26:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>Yes RB, you're right about the salaries, and that sort of culture is really hard to get rid of, that will take a revolution, not evolution. Same thing with AirNZ, Telecom, maybe even Health, Education, it's just very hard to wean people off big pay, low results required. <br />And all…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:26:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tane Wilton</title>
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						Why don't you link to the union's campaign website at www.ourmedia.org.nz where you can email the CEOs of TVNZ and APN, as well as Steve Maharey.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:19:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>ps. give Keith Ng that camera right now! What a great idea!</p><p>pps. It is still nice to listen to someone who knows how to "deliver the news"</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>you'd think both channels would hire reporters who didn't have to have the story explained to them every time</p></blockquote><p>I gave up on TV reporters a loooong time ago. And presenters...Arghhh. I just want to punch that Alastair Wilkinson (that's the smarmy guy on TV3 eh?) in the nose.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:05:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>when TV3 arrived and they felt some odd need to, you know, compete. TV One didn't ever need to compete, it just needed to be TV One and hold it's head high, a la ABC and BBC 1.</p></blockquote><p>One key thing they did, which has come back to bite them…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:03:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The faux-international style (over substance) took hold at TVNZ sometime in the late '80s,</p></blockquote><p>when TV3 arrived and they felt some odd need to, you know, <em>compete</em>. TV One didn't ever need to compete, it just needed to be TV One and hold it's head high, a la ABC and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:24:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I used to be a Copywriter, who had to deal with TVNZ way back. I'm not a journalist, but from what I know (very little), the culture is just plain wrong for any kind of innovation or suggestions for it.</p></blockquote><p>This is actually why I'm inclined to give the current…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:20:30 +1200</pubDate>
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						The rot set in when they stared listening to Kent Brockman and Troy McLure. Although I suppressed the Mayor Quimby meme, I was watching The Simpsons last night (getting child rearing advice, the kids use Homer against me) and hell, John Key is Mayor Quimby!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:14:18 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						The rot set in long before Ralston. The faux-international style (over substance) took hold at TVNZ sometime in the late '80s, and the marketing hot-shots obviously still hold sway. TVNZ seems further than ever from realising that it's quality content that attracts viewers, not empty sloganeering. Something is <em>seriously</em> wrong…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:59:51 +1200</pubDate>
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						I used to be a Copywriter, who had to deal with TVNZ way back. I'm not a journalist, but from what I know (very little), the culture is just plain wrong for any kind of innovation or suggestions for it. It's going to have to take a Govt. intervention like…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:43:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Stoked! A quote. Personally, I think TVNZ is going to go down a long, long way before there's a re-build from the ashes. And that new promo suggests I may be right.</p></blockquote><p>I've always thought that one of the worst of the hither-and-thither decisions in the past decade and a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:32:23 +1200</pubDate>
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						Stoked! A quote. Personally, I think TVNZ is going to go down a long, long way before there's a re-build from the ashes. And that new promo suggests I may be right.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:10:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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