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		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: Behind those Herald home-buying stories</title>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>And here we go again ...</p><p>On Stuff today, <a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/108764020/rental-properties-could-end-up-better-than-landlords-homes" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">another "woe is us" story about landlords' pain and suffering</a>. The source? A thing calling itself "Stop the War on Tenancies", which pretends to be an organisation representing property investors, but is in fact nothing more than one guy with a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2018 20:35:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p><a href="https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/105138910/racist-property-ads-list-ethnicity-of-community-as-a-selling-point" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">As so often happens, it's the apology that makes it worse.</a></p><p>Herald guy apologises <strong>if</strong> ... </p><p>Delete IF. Get IT.</p><p>(but in fairness, the other voices in this story do "get it", and don't deserve to be tarred by association. The Herald, on the other hand ...)</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2018 17:43:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>His language is, shall we say, plain, but treading along the edges of ethical lines is hardly limited to property speculators.</q></p><p>I'm not seeing a major philosophical distinction between this and Bill English's dismissal of the disadvantaged as the drug-addled authors of their own misfortune. Especially so when Matthew Hooton…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 17:08:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Still, the poor(?) little fella seemed to genuinely believe that he was only advocating the kind of thing that they’ve been giving out Queens Service Medals and JP-hoods for.</q></p><p>His position seemed to be "If the agent's saying it's a 'motivated seller' or whatever, then it'd be just plain wrong…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 16:26:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>They were damn stupid to send out a dvd/video without actually viewing it first.</q></p><p>Still, the poor(?) little fella seemed to genuinely believe that he was only advocating the kind of thing that they've been giving out Queens Service Medals and JP-hoods for.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 16:08:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>His antics have cost the Auckland Property Investors’ Association their ANZ sponsorship</q><br />They were damn stupid to send out a dvd/video without actually viewing it first.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 15:43:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I hope he’s a tipping point in the housing bubble debate.</q></p><p>His antics have <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11851578" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">cost the Auckland Property Investors' Association their ANZ sponsorship</a>, which was quick. Apparently other sponsors are also evaluating their involvement.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 14:15:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Made the TV one news also:<br /><a href="https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/business/property-investment-coach-labelled-dishonest-after-advising-buyers-target-vulnerable" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/business/property-investment-coach-labelled-dishonest-after-advising-buyers-target-vulnerable</a> </q></p><p>I hope he's a tipping point in the housing bubble debate.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 01:43:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Made the TV one news also:<br /><a href="https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/business/property-investment-coach-labelled-dishonest-after-advising-buyers-target-vulnerable" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/business/property-investment-coach-labelled-dishonest-after-advising-buyers-target-vulnerable</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2017 06:28:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Not enough character to admit what he has espoused &ndash; what a surprise.
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2017 21:51:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>EE</title>
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						<p>Well 20 days later and I wanted to check whether this new story in the Herald was about the same guy, Ron Hoy Fong. Sure enough.<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11850187" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Auckland property investors urged to target deceased estates, 'dummies' and divorcees</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2017 14:21:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> I have resolved more than one minor niggle through those chats, and they also build good rapport that’s highly desirable for workplace congeniality.</q></p><p>Otoh, I have a friend who <em>seriously</em> needed to get out of Auckland and he now works for the APN-owned Pagemasters, working on Aussie newspaper copy from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:00:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Soon Lee</title>
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						<p><a href="http://thespinoff.co.nz/media/20-04-2017/how-to-buy-your-first-house-a-deep-data-dive-into-those-miracle-property-stories/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chris McDowall @Spinoff does some analysis</a>.</p><p><q>The real story is this: Young people buying a home either need to move out of Auckland, get some cash from their folks, shack up with someone who can, or build a time machine.</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:10:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>NZ Inc is still behind the 8-ball on telecommuting.</q></p><p>I don't know that we are, TBH. A lot of our employment is simply not suited to remote working (hard to milk cows and show tourists around without being present, at least for now), and knowledge industries actually benefit from in-person…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2017 07:35:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						Tremain from today's ODT .... as  relevant here as just about anywhere
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:16:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>... in Rotorua. He hasn't bought in Auckland.</q></p><p>It illustrates the trade-off between cheap houses and gainful employment in NZ. Unless of course, you're a farmer, or a company director who can afford to heli-commute. NZ Inc is still behind the 8-ball on telecommuting.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:19:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Here's today's effort from the Herald. A nice young man who found that merely making his own lunches gave him enough money to buy his first rental</q></p><p>... in Rotorua. He hasn't bought in Auckland.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:49:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>The Herald are holding up young Scott as a shining example to the rest of us, although you'd have to ask exactly what kind of five star gourmet lunches were foresaken to generate that level of capital.</q></p><p>Once these property pieces have done their online headline dash, both the Herald…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2017 19:13:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<q>By promoting the idea that there is no housing crisis, provided you're prepared to knuckle down to some hard work, self-sacrifice and (cough cough... have rich parents), the Herald's current batch of rich-to-richer tales really are pushing the ethical boundaries of what defines party political advertisements in an election year.</q>…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:44:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p>Here's today's effort from the Herald. A nice young man who found that merely making his own lunches gave him enough money to buy his first rental. No smashed avocado and latté for this lad. While the story acknowledges that <em>"...his parents had helped guarantee his loan"</em> it adds...</p><p><q>...he…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:54:24 +1200</pubDate>
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						<q>Isn't this kind of story the bread and butter of the right wing narrative "if you work hard enough you can be rich"? The implied corollary is "if you are poor it is because you are lazy". Never mind structural impediments like sexism, racism, or simply not having rich mom…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:29:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Didn't Jesus </q></p><p>You forget, today is Good Friday when we celebrate murdering that trouble-making son of a god. In other news, some prophet gets a weekend holiday in heaven before being sent back down "but daaaad!!" "get back down there and clean that mess up" "it's not faaaiiiiirrr! You never…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:59:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>It's almost the same prohibition on usury that Christians have. Not that you'd know that from watching the Christians.</q></p><p>Didn't Jesus cast Goldman Sachs from the temple over two thousand years ago? Somebody obviously screwed up and let the buggers back in.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:03:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lynn Yum</title>
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						Isn't this kind of story the bread and butter of the right wing narrative "if you work hard enough you can be rich"? The implied corollary is "if you are poor it is because you are lazy". Never mind structural impediments like sexism, racism, or simply not having rich mom…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:09:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Nasa believes <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/91575059/video-nasa-oceans-beyond-earth-news-conference" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Saturn's ocean-bearing moon Enceladus</a> could support lifeforms</q><br />No word from the <em>NZ Herald</em> on house prices there as yet!<br />;- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 08:37:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>Islam's issue is charging interest, not banking itself. A point which seems to pass by many of SWB's detractors.</q></p><p>It's almost the same prohibition on usury that Christians have. Not that you'd know that from watching the Christians. There's an interesting <a href="http://www.islamicity.org/2773/history-of-usury-prohibition/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">summary of the subject here</a>. I looked at using…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:38:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Telfar Barnard</title>
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						<p>The $11.1m doesn’t come solely from removal of the subsidy. It also comes from health (hospitalisation) and justice system cost differences between home owners and tenants. It underestimates health savings because it doesn’t include GP visits or prescriptions, nor (as far as I recall) ACC claims.</p><p>However, the data the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:23:03 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Moz</title>
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						<p><q>a 15 year old buying a house</q></p><p>I'm amazed that he could persuade the court that he should be allowed to do that. Normal children can't sign contracts until they're 18, even if they have guarantors. The common practice is for the parents to pretend that they're carrying out the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:06:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Islam's issue is charging interest, not banking itself. A point which seems to pass by many of SWB's detractors.
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				<title>James Dunne</title>
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						He probably gets it paid into an account which doesn't bear interest or donates the interest to charity or makes charitable payments which he thinks outweigh any benefit that he might have derived from the interest or he uses some other sort of Islamic financial instrument.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I'm assuming that, rather than paying SBW through a bank payment, he gets handed a kitbag full of banknotes after each game?
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Here's a story about a 15 year old buying a house (20 years ago!)<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/91448742/on-the-ladder-first-home-at-15-could-be-a-record" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/91448742/on-the-ladder-first-home-at-15-could-be-a-record</a></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>And the RE industry makes up 17% of our GDP.</q></p><p>For comparison:</p><p>* Australia: 11.5% (<a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9mSk-3vOKZwJ:www.afr.com/real-estate/commercial/property-now-australias-biggest-industry-property-council-says-20150527-ghajmt+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=nz&amp;client=opera" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2015</a>)<br />* Canada: 13.2% (<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/08/02/real-estate-gdp-canada_n_11309192.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2016</a>)<br />* China: 12% (<a href="[[https://www.businessinsider.com.au/seriously-these-chinese-malls-dont-have-any-people-in-them-2012-4?r=US&amp;IR=T">2012</a>), 15% (<a href="https://www.thebalance.com/how-does-real-estate-affect-the-u-s-economy-3306018" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2016</a>)<br />* Ireland: 10.4% (<a href="https://docs.google.com/viewer?docex=1&amp;url=http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/publications/pages/publication13187_en.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2005</a>, before the bubble burst)<br />* UK: 11% (<a href="http://www.edmundconway.com/2015/02/real-estate-britains-most-disappointing-industry/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2015</a>)<br />* USA: 8.9% (<a href="https://www.thebalance.com/how-does-real-estate-affect-the-u-s-economy-3306018" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">2006</a>, before Great Recession)</p>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>You ain’t kidding. Nearly 77% of the national wealth is tied up in residential property (scroll down for the pretty horizontal bar graph titled “New Zealand Asset Classes”).</q></p><p>And the RE industry makes up 17% of our GDP.</p><p><a href="http://www.interest.co.nz/property/87021/barfoot-auctions-achieve-sales-rates-two-thirds-central-auckland-properties-one-third#comment-915184" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.interest.co.nz/property/87021/barfoot-auctions-achieve-sales-rates-two-thirds-central-auckland-properties-one-third#comment-915184</a></p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>much of the public transport infrastructure is of most benefit to people who live centrally. The further out you go, the more dispersed PT becomes. </q></p><p>Seen the <a href="https://www.greaterauckland.org.nz/2017/04/10/introducing-the-congestion-free-network-2/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Congestion Free Network v2</a>? Lots more sideways connectedness.</p>
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				<title>Logan O&#039;Callahan</title>
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						<p>Is there any analysis around of the impact of switching housing NZ's budget from building and owning new housing to providing rent subsidies to private land lords?</p><p>Could it be that government rent subsidies push up rents for everyone, and help inflate prices in the lower end of the housing…</p>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						<p>Aucklanders are wage slaves forced to live in far flung suburbs many miles from where they work in crummy underpaid jobs while their bosses do cushy innercity commutes.</p><p>Still more cruelly much of the public transport infrastructure is of most benefit to people who live centrally. The further out you…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>All that's really happening is that the subsidies gone, so the renters get poorer and some non-socially housed rate taxpayers get richer. </q></p><p>There's evidence that any "subsidy" is a recent phenomenon, and that it's a symptom of the casino economy created by an overheated property market. Until recently, Christchurch City…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>...and then there's this...<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11836313" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11836313</a><br /><q>A grand mansion of almost hotel-like proportions is rising on Auckland's northern outskirts in job so big that a commercial-grade tower crane is swinging above the site.</q></p>
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						<p><q>Moving 1000 social housing renters into home ownership could produce a net fiscal saving of $11.1 million over 15 years, BERL's data shows.</q></p><p>Why? On a narrow definition, sure, if the renters aren't paying the full costs of their accommodation, then getting them to move into houses that they fully…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p>What pisses me off about all of this, the articles, the banks, the real estate agents and of course the governments, is that it is all short term thinking.</p><p>Nobody is willing to plan for the long term. Somehow we've come to accept that it's Ok for our governments to…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>stop non-citizens or non-residents buying real estate. </q></p><p>Or, at the very least, do what the Australians do and prohibit them from buying existing housing stock. If their money is welcome in the housing cycle it should be right at the genesis of a property.</p>
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						<p><em>Noted</em> writes that foreign financing changes are <a href="http://www.noted.co.nz/money/property/housing-despite-the-medias-hot-air-a-cool-wind-is-blowing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">having an impact</a>.</p><p><q>The Auckland property market is a giant Ponzi scheme that is kept alive by new entrants — domestic and foreign — piling in. As soon as that tapers off, the Ponzi is in deep trouble. The Herald is very interested…</q></p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Moving 1000 social housing renters into home ownership could produce a net fiscal saving of $11.1 million over 15 years, BERL's data shows.</q></p><p>This seems to have been conventional wisdom until well within living memory. Once the property market overheated it all appears to have evaporated as if it had…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Moving 1000 social housing renters into home ownership could produce a net fiscal saving of $11.1 million over 15 years, BERL's data shows.  </q><br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/91450578/everyone-wins-when-lowerincome-families-own-their-own-homes-says-study" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/property/91450578/everyone-wins-when-lowerincome-families-own-their-own-homes-says-study</a></p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>True, but National are such <em>wankers</em> about it.  Simon Bridges is on record saying this Auckland's housing affordability issues are only in the "top tier". And John Key's housing crisis of 2007 evaporated as soon as he took the reigns.</p><p>I truly hope that Labour's time in the wilderness has…</p>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<p><q>I don’t think that would make anywhere near as much difference as the next suggestion: stop non-citizens or non-residents buying real estate.</q> </p><p>A friend of a relative recently showed a group of non-resident investors 32 residential properties in and around Hamilton. </p><p>The group purchased 28 of the properties before flying…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>Of course, immigration is a major driver of GDP growth when you have a government of incompetent group-thinkers. National loves the “free” GDP growth plus IIRC each National MP owns 2.3 houses so they quite like the current settings because of the tax-free capital gains. And it’s not their friends…</q>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<q>It’s not a supply and demand thing. If it were, then at some point (as with out of season tomatoes or imported Japanese cars) a price level would have been reached where people weren’t prepared to buy Auckland properties any more. By any rational standard, a shack in Avondale is…</q>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11836445" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11836445</a></p><p>This short piece in the herald makes the point that the national party endorses the idea that not being able to buy a house in Auckland is a moral failure for the individual. Whereas 10% of the population owning 50% of the wealth is the real failure.</p>
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				<title>llew40</title>
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						Different argument, and one that would take a different thread (and one I essentially don't disagree with you on) but I was making the point that &ndash; for good or ill &ndash; our political system is capable of systemic/structural change &ndash; and that was an example.
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						<q>And yet, and yet &ndash; we know it can be done. For all their faults, the 1984 Government took bold action to course-correct from the cul-de-sac of Muldoonism. We've seen our Government's make progressive law changes that reflect changing mores and modern contemporary social views. We've seen the emergence of…</q>
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						<q>And a crash *will* help. Prices will re-align with earnings as speculators are forced to bail. Hopefully, a government will be forced to implement radical policies to reboot the economy (e.g. building a bunch of high-density housing, a la Hong Kong). Either that or we'll get a Trump (one way…</q>
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						<p><q> the 1984 Government took bold action to course-correct from the cul-de-sac of Muldoonism</q></p><p>How many people were sleeping on the street in the Muldoon era &ndash; my partner remembers very few, but not sure whether than was because they had state houses and jobs sweeping railway platforms, or were locked…</p>
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						<q>I don't think our political system can cope with this problem, TBH. I expect it to get worse and worse. Our way of running things is incremental and is thus incapable of systematic and major change involving several steps at once. So it's spiralling in on this very poor situation.</q>…
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						<p>It's nothing to do with immigration.</p><p>It's not a supply and demand thing. If it were, then at some point (as with out of season tomatoes or imported Japanese cars) a price level would have been reached where people weren't prepared to buy Auckland properties any more. By any rational…</p>
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						<p><q>You ain't kidding. Nearly 77% of the national wealth is tied up in residential property (scroll down for the pretty horizontal bar graph titled "New Zealand Asset Classes").</q></p><p>Does anyone have similar stats for the rest of the OECD? Google seems to be a bit scattershot right now. In any…</p>
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						<p><q> Our way of running things is incremental and is thus incapable of systematic and major change involving several steps at once.</q></p><p>Interesting and terrifying thought. Certainly the Government of the last decade has been in thrall to the notion of incrementalism as a virtue (with the successful navigation of things…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Limiting ownership to residents might help or it might not. Whether you are a resident or not you still need somewhere to live, so the presence of large numbers of people is going to drive up prices whether they can own property or not. Property becomes even more compelling as…
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>I’m not sure that that would be easy, and it might <strong>make housing affordable again</strong> </q></p><p>FTFY</p>
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						<p><q>    massively reduce the number of people moving to Auckland. ... How, exactly, would you do that</q></p><p>I'd say via most immigrants live in Auckland, we want fewer immigrants in Auckland, we don't have the means to stop them moving where they like once they're here... ergo, we need to permit…</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p>The first step would be to stem the record numbers of people arriving, full stop.  The floodgates have been open too long, Auckland has been full for more than 20 years IMO.  I agree that simply moving the record numbers of immigrants to the regions is a non-starter.</p><p>One way…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						That one stinks like fortnight-old fish. Too good to be true.
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				<title>Ian Tinkler</title>
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						<p>My Fav article is by Scott Yorke<br /><a href="https://imperatorfish.com/2017/03/31/i-bought-my-first-house-when-i-was-23-and-now-i-own-four-heres-how-i-did-it/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://imperatorfish.com/2017/03/31/i-bought-my-first-house-when-i-was-23-and-now-i-own-four-heres-how-i-did-it/</a></p>
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						<p><q>Change our immigration policy settings to massively reduce the number of people moving to Auckland. </q></p><p>How, exactly, would you do that? Incentives to live in the regions, which will then suffer the same kinds of infrastructure and housing-price stress as Auckland but with a far lower starting point in terms…</p>
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				<title>Mikaere Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>It’s a huge and complicated problem.</q><br />True, but it there are some pretty easily picked low hanging fruit:</p><p>* Change our immigration policy settings to massively reduce the number of people moving to Auckland.  <br />* Disallow non-residents from purchasing real estate<br />* Implement a capital gains tax (except on the…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>Not surprising when it’s almost all of our capital.</q></p><p>You ain't kidding. <a href="http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/86724/clone-another-slower-month-housing-sales-will-give-reserve-bank-optimism-its-efforts" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nearly 77%</a> of the national wealth is tied up in residential property (scroll down for the pretty horizontal bar graph titled "New Zealand Asset Classes").</p>
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				<title>Walter  Nicholls</title>
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						It's got to the point where I've seriously considered that having two kids is too expensive.  It's not just a 10% on a potentially million-dollar house, getting through University isn't exactly cheap either. My 15-year-old has already decided she'll never buy in Auckland.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>With our tax and investment systems so ridiculously geared towards property as an asset class, for those who could it has simply been the most sensible way to save for their retirement.</q></p><p>Pretty much. It's an asset that's easy to understand, over which you have a lot of control, and…</p>
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				<title>Rebecca Gray</title>
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						<p>And this, in an article which otherwise appears to be promoting membership in a property investors' association.</p><p>Amazing.</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>By, er, Anne Gibson.</q><br />and there's this story from April 3<br /><strong>How to get a $1.7m Auckland property portfolio in 4 years</strong><br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11831331" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11831331</a></p><p>in which __"(Phil) Twyford praised the Herald for its property coverage because he said it showed what was really going on and had resulted in people calling…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>a plague upon their houses … perhaps we need some Aussie termites</q><br />or termagents &ndash; Pauline Hanson seems like a one-woman plague...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Holy shit.</p><p><a href="https://www.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/6251289" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This Companies Office entry</a> indicates that Ron Hoy Fong recently re-registered a company in the name of Richmastery, the get-rich-quick “property education” company that <a href="http://www.landlords.co.nz/article/4270/losing-lustre" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">left a trail of victims before the GFC</a>.</p><p>Here’s <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10581727" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Herald’s 2009 report on Richmastery going into liquidation</a>. By, er, Anne Gibson.</p>
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						Nah, that's because the curve has changed as much as anything else. The extreme ends used to be much closer to the centre before, now the richest are pushing the average up more because they have 100x the average wealth rather than 10x.
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				<title>Glenn Pearce</title>
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						<p>Someone said to me a while back, "when you earn the average wage but you can't afford the average house something is screwed"</p><p>Simple really when you think about it.</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>Generation Rent-Seeker has become just as powerful as an upper house, and it’ll likely take one of those horsemen to dislodge them.</q></p><p>So ... a plague upon their houses ... perhaps we need some Aussie termites</p>
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						<p><q>How does it compare to the Sutherland Shire, where the Cronulla riots happened a bit over a decade ago?</q></p><p>People fighting over surf breaks and arguing about $50,000+ cars are not really the criminal elements most people fear. In that area you're far more likely to get run off the…</p>
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						<p><q>"He asked me the same thing about people from Penrith when he discovered that's where I'm from".</q></p><p>How does it compare to the Sutherland Shire, where the Cronulla riots happened a bit over a decade ago?</p>
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						<p>"for a decent quality home"... let us hope that that is what Ngai Tahu Incorporated is being forced to build, because we desperately need to see that become the new normal. I don't have any confidence that they would choose to do so.</p><p>But that is a whole other topic:…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile in Chchch $550,000 apparently becomes the new 'affordable' housing price...<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/91373465/christchurch-city-council-wants-ngai-tahu-homes-to-be-genuinely-affordable" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/91373465/christchurch-city-council-wants-ngai-tahu-homes-to-be-genuinely-affordable</a></p>
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						<p><q>And it goes back that far .... I remember Michael Cullen being particularly (and cavalierly) dismissive of the idea of introducing a capital gains tax.</p><p>This sort of institutionalised crisis takes decades to form, and will probably take a long way to unwind &ndash; assuming there is a political will…</q></p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>We have been trying to guide our daughter into a first home in Auckland, she has $30k saved</q></p><p>$30k doesn't get you overly far against a deposit requirement of, at pretty much barest minimum, 10%. The only places for $300k tend to be apartments, and the banks are much more…</p>
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						<p>The Tintin cover is brilliant!</p><p><q> first inner-city Sydney job the company smartarse</q></p><p>Ah yes, the Lesser Australian Dickhead, a promiscuous species seen in a wide variety of habitats throughout the country. An introduced species, commonly regarded as a pest if not a plague, very resilient in the face of attempts…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						On my first day at my first inner-city Sydney job the company smartarse asked me if it was true that people from NZ would look inside the back of a radio hoping to spot the little man inside. "Don't take any notice of that bastard", said the guy at the…
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						<p>This clickbait nonsense in the Herald and Stuff is infuriating.  No doubt, the current tax regime and demand vs supply absolutely favours property investment.  We have been trying to guide our daughter into a first home in Auckland, she has $30k saved, achieved by living at home until recently.</p><p>It…</p>
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						<p><q> firstly, property inflation gains are undertaxed</q></p><p>I think it would be more accurate to say that capital gains after inflation are undertaxed. Australia used to do this explicitly, taxing everything after inflation when you sold the property. It was quite straightforward and seemed fair to most people.</p><p>But Howard "simplified"…</p>
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						<p>There are actually two related structural biases:<br />&ndash; firstly, property inflation gains are undertaxed<br />&ndash; secondly, leverage is available to ordinary individuals on property purchases and not on any other asset class.</p><p>This is not widely understood, but if I buy a house on an 80% mortgage and it appreciates…</p>
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				<title>Shaun Scott</title>
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						<q>Hmmm – well I guess there is the Acheson Street shops a coupla blocks away from me in Shirley – basically a rollerdoor display area, in a state house area – most of which never roll up – there’s even a gone-out-of-business ‘Dress for Even Less’, which says a lot!</q>…
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						<p><q> lso people who want to feel that their investment portfolio is righteous thing that doesn’t exclude those who really try hard enough. I’m under no illusions that my own investment property is not a contributor to anything genuinely positive in the NZ economy.</q></p><p>I am wary of the "boomers are…</p>
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						<p>But if you're a CBD person, you *want* to work in a place with shops and bars and coffee and non-suburban people. </p><p>And if you're an inveterate suburbanite couple you get jobs in Takapuna and Albany with a sweet commute from your North Shore house, then one of your companies…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I sometimes think National actually would really like to lose the next one and dodge the bullet.</q></p><p>I agree but it looks like Little is doing a much better job at losing the election than National expected.</p>
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						<p><q>The advantage of Sydney is that there are jobs right out, so you can reasonably find decent paid work even west of the geographic centre (the CBD is close to the eastern edge of the city).</q></p><p>Yeah, Auckland's highly-paid jobs are largely concentrated in the CBD, which accounts for, from…</p>
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						<p><q>Those three suburbs are not on the railway lines, they're not close to the motorway, and that means that a commute to the CBD, or even to Penrose, will take well over an hour</q></p><p>I was about to say "come to Sydney, we have cheap houses close to PT and…</p>
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						<p><q>I'm also quite intrigued about the apparent blanket snobbery of entire suburbs that seems to condemn them to not even worth looking at on the basis of a few bad streets or sensationalist stories in the media...</q></p><p>There are three &ndash; count them, <strong>three</strong> &ndash; suburbs in Auckland with a…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>A bailout of toxic mortgages would also drive a wedge between the market pragmatists and the market purists within the NACT bloc. I suspect both the red and blue blocs are secretly hoping the opposing bloc is in power if/when the housing bubble pops.</q></p><p>This is still my theory about…</p>
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						<p><q>these articles do buy into the narrative that if you forgo smashed avo and work hard you too can own a home</q></p><p>Of course. But only people who aren’t actually trying to do it can even possibly buy into that narrative. </p><p><q>It also works on those parents too selfish or…</q></p>
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						<p><q>I imagine if the fabled Great Correction does eventuate, it will be framed as a National Crisis, and the government will attempt to prevent all those mortgages from going upside-down. That will be expensive.</q></p><p>In addition to derailing the neoliberal just-world orthodoxy, a bailout of toxic mortgages would also drive…</p>
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						<p>These articles are also putting expectations on parents .... we've saved and budgetted to put our kids thru Uni, and out the other end with no debt, trying to give them the same start in life we had. </p><p>Now the Herald thinks we're expected to mortgage our retirement savings to…</p>
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						These house-buying stories are similar to another tiresome media staple: in order to "prove" that welfare recipients are to blame for their own circumstances, a healthy, prosperous person will choose to live on the benefit for a week or month, and not starve, <em>so there</em>. All other advantages existing prior…
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				<title>Martin Brown</title>
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						I sometimes think National actually would really like to lose the next one and dodge the bullet.
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q> probably Aranui, maybe Shirley.</q><br />Hmmm &ndash; well I guess there is the Acheson Street shops a coupla blocks away from me in Shirley &ndash; basically a rollerdoor display area, in a state house area &ndash; most of which never roll up &ndash; there's even a gone-out-of-business <strong>'Dress for Even Less'</strong>,…</p>
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						<p><q>if you forgo smashed avo and work hard you too can own a home (with mummies and daddies help)</q></p><p>It also works on those parents too selfish or feckless to lend/give their kids that crucial two-or-three-hundred-thousand (say it quickly and it doesn't sound like much). Pity the parents who don't…</p>
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				<title>Glen Koorey</title>
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						<p><q></p><p>Matthew Poole, in reply to Moz, about 2 hours ago</p><p>I suspect that Glen, being from Christchurch, has no idea what the bottom quartile of Auckland's housing actually looks like. Zero non-private-car transport options, and deciding whether you prefer blue or red when you pick the gang affiliation of your…</q></p>
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				<title>Sam Bradford</title>
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						<p>I agree with Ben, I don't think they're even trying to journalism. They've just realised that these stories are a good source of infuriated page-clicks and shares. They're rage-baiting the public. </p><p>It's also interesting that 'young couple buy a house' is rare enough to be considered newsworthy. Kind of undermines…</p>
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						<p><q> It’s obviously not aimed at Millenials themselves because they don’t even read Granny. </q></p><p>these articles do buy into the narrative that if you forgo smashed avo and work hard you too can own a home (with mummies and daddies help) &ndash; if young people weren't so lazy and drugged up…</p>
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						I doubt the people writing the articles are actually stupid. The true detail is usually in the article anyway. Which leaves me scratching around for their real motives. It's obviously not aimed at Millenials themselves because they don't even read Granny. Presumably it's all about the clickbait and the heightened…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I have a house because three people close to me died.
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>But let’s not be demonising South Auckland.</q><br />Oh, I'm not intending to, that just happened to be an easy example of a battered house that's got a price expectation of $silly (as opposed to $ludicrous or $ROFLMFAO), to demonstrate to Glen just what something around the bottom quartile of Auckland's…</p>
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						<p><q>the government will attempt to prevent all those mortgages from going upside-down</q></p><p>I think you've confused mortgages with banks, individuals will be left to the market...</p>
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				<title>Zach Bagnall</title>
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						<p>Shady business, on many levels.</p><p>I imagine if the fabled Great Correction does eventuate, it will be framed as a National Crisis, and the government will attempt to prevent all those mortgages from going upside-down. That will be expensive.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>As an example, Glen, this fine specimen filters out of TradeMe’s results when the maximum price is the extravagant sum of $500k. </q></p><p>It’ll go for way more than its rateable value, though. QV’s mid-range value on that property is $660,000, which still makes it one of the cheaper houses in…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p><q>I’m pretty sure that most first home buyers will be aiming closer to the lower quartile (or even lower 10%)</q></p><p>As an example, Glen, <a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1296992330" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this fine specimen</a> filters out of TradeMe's results when the maximum price is the extravagant sum of $500k. That won't even be the bottom 10%, which…</p>
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						I'd have to agree that these pieces are FIRE-sector advertorials pretending to be news stories. I know motivational snake oil when I see it, and it's getting horribly tiresome. It'll sting painfully, but bring on the bubble burst for the sole reason that it might just force Generation Rent-Seeker to…
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						<p><q>Anyone able to translate the worst parts of Otara and Mangere into Christchurch?</q></p><p>Closest I recall is <a href="https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Aranui,+Christchurch+8061,+New+Zealand/@-43.5115142,172.7158676,425m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x6d3188e57f74c40d:0x500ef8684795c40!8m2!3d-43.5102623!4d172.7066584" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">probably Aranui</a>, maybe Shirley. Even so, in Auckland terms those are more "the rough end of the North Shore" than "the bad part of South Auckland". But yeah, I could have added "gunshot…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						Last week I had to drive to an after work hours project. Normally it takes me 5-10 mins. It took 1 and a quarter hours. I had allowed 20 mins which was triple the usual time but there was an extra wide crane truck blocking all of a lane and…
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						<p>I suspect that Glen, being from Christchurch, has no idea what the bottom quartile of Auckland's housing actually looks like. Zero non-private-car transport options, and deciding whether you prefer blue or red when you pick the gang affiliation of your neighbours.</p><p>Anyone able to translate the worst parts of Otara…</p>
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						<p><q> I'm pretty sure that most first home buyers will be aiming closer to the lower quartile (or even lower 10%), </q></p><p>Only those who have no other options. Buying the bottom-end houses is rarely a good idea because they tend to stay at the bottom of the market. Viz, as house…</p>
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						<p><q>I'm pretty sure that most first home buyers will be aiming closer to the lower quartile</q></p><p>Bottom quartile in Auckland is, last I saw, in the vicinity of $600k, meaning a 20% deposit of around $120k, and competing with speculators who are eyeing up the gentrification-induced capital gains that come…</p>
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				<title>Alan Perrott</title>
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						on the bright side; it's not a bad look if you like a bad look.
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>All of these property stories are just click bait to help out the advertising department at the Herald. I use Ben Torkington’s Chrome extension and it identifies the source of click bait stories. These ones just get labelled property.</p><p>What I dislike about the property stories  is that when it…</p>
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				<title>Glen Koorey</title>
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						<p><q>Then we get Liam Dann, yesterday, talking about how the average Auckland house price increased by $114,000 last year. Which means the average purchaser's average 20% required deposit increased by $22,800 last year.</q></p><p>I never understand why the media focus is always on what the AVERAGE price is doing. I'm…</p>
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				<title>Te Radar</title>
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						Thanks so much for this Russell. Finally explained. Also: Sheez.
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						<p><q>the average Auckland house price increased by $114,000 last year. Which means the average purchaser's average 20% required deposit increased by $22,800 last year</q></p><p>So if you can't save $22,000 a year you're getting further away from buying that median house, not closer. I have been through the "watch my…</p>
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						<p><q><br />The secret is drainlaying…<br />…and being in Palmerston North!<br /></q><br />Don't forget "He lived at home, paying $50 in board a week".</p><p>There's a very consistent theme of parental largesse that runs through most of these stories, be it wedding gifts, equity gifts, or room and board at below-market rates (frequently…</p>
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						<p><q>When the Herald and Stuff are publishing stories basically encouraging young people to invest in the housing market regardless of whether they can afford to, I start to wonder whether the crash is going to be this month or the month after.</q></p><p>The Herald has to be making a fair…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p>On <em>Stuff</em> today:<br /><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/91268790/On-the-ladder-At-19-Travis-Parry-has-just-bought-his-first-home" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/91268790/On-the-ladder-At-19-Travis-Parry-has-just-bought-his-first-home</a><br />The secret is drainlaying...<br />...and being in Palmerston North!</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						Then we get <a href="http://ww.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11832974" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Liam Dann, yesterday</a>, talking about how the average Auckland house price increased by $114,000 last year. Which means the average purchaser's average 20% required deposit increased by $22,800 last year. That's probably almost literally a (very small) truckload of smashed-avo brunches just to keep up with __the increase…
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Wobbles ahead?</strong><br />Ok so that'll work for one generation...<br />....what'll this crop of 'giftees' leave their kids?</p><p> and then probably all the dead baby boomers' personal credit card debt will skew the system (not everybody's parents are rich or living within their means)...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Of course they hope to make enough of a tax-free gain to offset this. </q></p><p>Yeah, that's the underlying assumption in most of these stories.</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Thank you for doing this Russell. It was just about driving me nuts reading through those to discover the lies on which they were based. It's just so awful and sends a message to all the young workers and couples out there that the reason they can't buy a house…
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				<title>Nick Russell</title>
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						These stories remind me of that hoary old chestnut they used to tell about sharemarkets being overheated when you start getting stock tips from cab drivers and the like.  When the Herald and Stuff are publishing stories basically encouraging young people to invest in the housing market regardless of whether…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Also, notice they were getting $470 in rent. A $640k mortgage costs about $800 a week to service in interest costs alone (plus obviously you have rates, maintenance, etc to take care of). So if they were actually fully financed, they'd be losing over $300 a week in real cash.…
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				<title>Tom Johnson</title>
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						<p>I agree. They seem to be advertorial rather than informative and we know that media companies see this kind of story as a part of a parcel of options to warm advertisers. </p><p>Live at home for free, don’t go out and get mum and dad to gift you money seems…</p>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						One wonders if we’re even close to reaching peak neo-liberalism and how much worse this might get before it improves.   People are living in cars and we celebrate speculators, nepotism and profit.  Moral shortcomings framed as economic wins.
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				<title>James W</title>
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						Yup, when I saw Ron Hoy Fong's name yet again, I too did a Google search to check how many times the Herald had done his PR work for him. The problem is they keep forgetting to put the "Sponsored Content" tag on all his stories.
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Do those stories drive much traffic? I see them more as native content from the newspaper's last major advertising revenue stream.
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				<title>GLaird</title>
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						They didn't use that 30k towards the deposit either but for renovations and advertising according to the article so what we're looking at here is a large equity gift from mum and dad.  Such a misleading article in so many ways.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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