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						ouch, that was possibly the lamest award show I've ever seem. a significant portion of  the winners didn't bother to turn up, the mc's were lame, and in contrast with the down to earth nature of many of the nz musicians the set looked like some crazy fashion shoe set…
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				<title>Robert Fear</title>
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						<p>This maybe old news for those interested in alt means of interacting with your computer but <a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Johnny Chung Lee</a> has been working on some alternative uses for a Wiimote controller &ndash; finger tracking, interactive whiteboards (on any surface) and VR head tracking.</p><p>Another source of Wiimote related projects can be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sept 2008 00:21:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Perrin Morrow</title>
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						<p>The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/review/product/B000FKBCX4/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?_encoding=UTF8&amp;showViewpoints=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">customer reviews</a> on Amazon are filling up with people complaining about the DRM on Spore and giving it 1 star (although 90% of them are by people who haven't actually bought the game).</p><p>Personally I didn't have any problems with the DRM (which is not to say I won't in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sept 2008 01:40:41 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>and? are you going to take it up with them, they can never learn if you just suck it and keep quiet.<br />surely you're entitled to a fresh install with 3 lives?</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sept 2008 15:12:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>russell, did you do anything about getting the spore people to address the difficulties in installing their legitimately purchase software? I'd like to hear how they respond.</p></blockquote><p>Unofficially and apologetically. EA are new to the download thing and they've got it crazily wrong. It's just stupid to take  $100+ for…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sept 2008 14:24:55 +1200</pubDate>
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						russell, did you do anything about getting the spore people to address the difficulties in installing their legitimately purchase software? I'd like to hear how they respond.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sept 2008 14:14:39 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>but it's hardly a name to conjure with</p></blockquote><p>but it is accurate,or more to the point not misleading, if that counts for anything.</p><p>I personally like the sound of the Loxene Golden Disc Awards,</p><p>vodafone gold disc awards?<br />Vodafone silver disc awards<br />Vodafone 5 meg data file awards?<br />vodafone golden…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sept 2008 10:43:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it should be the rianz music awards.</p></blockquote><p>It <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Music_Awards" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">used to be called that</a>, but it's hardly a name to conjure with. And unlike ARIA it's not even a word.</p><p>Before that it was the RATAs and before that the Loxene Golden Disc Awards. <em>That</em> was a good name ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sept 2008 07:32:01 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>To what earthly end, though?</p></blockquote><p>I'll take that as a yes please.</p><p>the earthly end being an awards system that focuses on acknowledging greatness across all artists. is that really so offensive to you? its a simple, basic concept. if you're not doing that then don't use the term new…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 20:57:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That statement my statement is ridiculous is in fact ridiculous.<br />b nets? nominated by stations, artists are not part of that process? ring a bell?</p></blockquote><p>Or try the Qantas Media Awards, the Montana Book Awards, etc, etc.  The idea that it's a "fault" that people have to enter to be…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 19:49:40 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>That's a ridiculous statement. It's the way that all industry awards of any kind operate. And if it wasn't that way, I'm sure you'd complain about that too.</p></blockquote><p>That statement my statement is ridiculous is in fact ridiculous.<br />b nets? nominated by stations, artists are not part of that process?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 19:30:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Daniel McConnell</title>
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						<p>Still very cheap &amp; still very capable</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/QgKCrGvShZs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/v/QgKCrGvShZs</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 18:21:58 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How's Leo enjoying Spore?</p></blockquote><p>He's storming through it: last seen designing a spaceship, which isn't bad considering that yesterday he was just a little protozoan.</p><p>Nice feature: he was playing yesterday and then saw a creature that he'd made with the Spore Creature Creator when it was released a while…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 17:58:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						How's Leo enjoying Spore?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 15:29:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>artists and their labels nominate themselves for award recognition. That 'feels' weird man, just wrong. its someone elses job to say you're good, not yours.</p></blockquote><p>That's a ridiculous statement. It's the way that all industry awards of any kind operate. And if it wasn't that way, I'm sure you'd complain…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 15:26:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Ohhhhh I see. Hadn't realised that it was only for the labels.  In which case, of course they're the ones nominating their acts. It makes sense, I guess.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 15:09:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is there anything at all stopping any musician in NZ joining RIANZ?</p></blockquote><p>It's a label's organisation, not musicians. To join one needs to be a recording label or distributor or something related. People don't join as such. You apply and if you fit the criteria you get to join, usually…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 13:47:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						I didn't find your explanation at all boring, robbery. Kindly school teacher? No. Reasonable person explaining to another reasonable person the inner workings of RIANZ? Yes. So thankyou for that. Look robbery, I know peeps, family and friends, that are members of RIANZ. One or three of them may have…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 09:38:03 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>If that's standard now it's jumped 100% since the last time I manufactured in NZ in 2004.</p></blockquote><p>$1750 is one of the best deals going for 500 at the moment. price goes down the more you press as you know but print runs have dropped hugely since the good old…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 00:20:03 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe the lower level musician could add 10c per head to their door price to cover it...lets face it if they can't pull enough punters over a year to cover that then they may be too lower level to seriously take part</p></blockquote><p>so now you're judging greatness on income? you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 00:15:19 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I know I'm going to regret asking this but what club do you speak of, Robbery?</p></blockquote><p>of course you are jackie but try reading it with a warm caring and informative voice, kinda like a kindly school teacher, and understand that i'm just interested in the facts of this, not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sept 2008 00:04:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In a country as small an nz where many artists make an impact purely from their own initiatives, independently this always seem like the awards were a promotional exercise for the bigger players who had decided to form a club and give themselves awards.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>also noting that a lot of…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 22:29:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would think a national music awards could and should be organized, supported and funded by a govt arts body</p></blockquote><p>not at all, it's a celebration of success and a PR opportunity. That's all. A government funded thing for worthy lower level musicians would last about ten minutes before the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 21:16:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>$3.50 per disc cost to manufacture</p></blockquote><p>If that's standard now it's jumped 100% since the last time I manufactured in NZ in 2004.</p><p>So the real cost is $100 plus $60</p><p>Maybe the lower level musician could add 10c per head to their door price to cover it...lets face it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 21:11:41 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>It would also have no one to fund it or organise it.</p></blockquote><p>well they're doing quite a bit of sponsorship (vodafone, nokia, steinlager, warehouse, etc) so that sorts a bit of the dosh,</p><p>I would think a national music awards could and should be organized, supported and funded by a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 20:55:09 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd imagine the twelve CDs probably cost more than the $100.</p></blockquote><p>wholesale wise they're worth about $200 if they were sold instead of contributed to the cause of getting award recognition but its about $3.50 per disc cost to  <a href="http://www.morecoreaudio.co.nz/CDandDVDReplicationSet.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">manufacture</a><br />including entry fee its not nothing to a lower level…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 20:42:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>100 Word</title>
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						<a href="http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/9/6/128651615586883006.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spore review?</a>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sept 2008 20:42:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Purple balls on Queen St &ndash; does sound like it could be related to Crow's lil event.  :)
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You mean like this crap from Fran O'Sullivan? She already seems to be foaming at the mouth as the election approaches, like last time's hysterical rantings.</p></blockquote><p>She even throws in "clean coals" for good measure! Two words that should never be spoken together (and using the plural for "coal" doesn't…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Or if they tried to run the kind of palpable untruths that Palin trotted out in her speech.</p></blockquote><p>You mean like <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10530804&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this crap from Fran O'Sullivan</a>? She already seems to be foaming at the mouth as the election approaches, like last time's hysterical rantings.  </p><p>Have the Herald let all their fact-checkers…</p>
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				<title>JohnAmiria</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was engaged in my usual commuter stroll up Queen St yesterday with Hornblower when he deadpanned "oh look, we're in a Bravia ad". And sure enough, hundreds of purple sphere were rolling across the Queen/Victoria intersection.</p></blockquote><p>Shall we blame Steve Crow? <br />Obviously Auckland city streets are fair game for advertisers…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>We're good!</p><p>After reinstalling the download manager and then downloading the Spore installer all over again (at the cost of the second of three permitted activations &mdash; grr), Leo is playing the damn thing as of five minutes ago.</p><p>What a relief.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd imagine the twelve CDs probably cost more than the $100.</p></blockquote><p>at cost..depends on the packaging but no..about $30 max. The rest of the price of a CD is royalties and margins</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>if they were really interested in rewarding outstanding achievement in all new zealand music then there would be no entry fee or membership ans it would be decided by a panel of knowledgeable judges versed in the many corners of this countries music, or DFenders panel of friends, either's fine…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>quickly found out who some of the other judges are and they tend to be fairly well chosen.</p></blockquote><p>which would add legitimacy to the whole package, but its more the selection and entry process I find amusing.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						I find it funny that they've got all snotty because Dfender got all their friends together to vote them in. Isn't that what everyone does for comps of every kind where there's a public vote? I get heaps of "please go here and vote for me" on Facebook and the…
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think you hit the nail on the head of their real value though,</p><p>...........drunken parties</p></blockquote><p>the 3 drunkest times in my life have all been RIANZ awards after parties..dear oh dear....there was the party at the nice lady from CBS' house, with a couple of (still) major pop stars…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>it would be decided by a panel of knowledgeable judges versed in the many corners of this countries music,</p></blockquote><p>I know when I've been a judge I've (and I wasn't allowed to but it's a small country and a smaller industry) quickly found out who some of the other judges…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>God, it's a hundred bucks..either you believe that much in the record or you don't</p></blockquote><p>its a club where you nominate yourself :)</p><p>I think you hit the nail on the head of their real value though, </p><p>...........drunken parties</p><p>if they were really interested in rewarding outstanding achievement in all…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						Myself I think the Tuis and the way they are put together and the distance they've come in terms of how and what they represent are incredible..and I speak as a person who is geriatric enough to have been to 23 of them...from the drunken little parties in Logan Park…
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						God, it's a hundred bucks..either you believe that much in the record or you don't
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						<blockquote><p>Apparently there's a way around it</p></blockquote><p>hahaha good one, :)<br />but apparently they shut that loophole down, although the band say they didn't fudge they system, just asked their friends to vote, very strongly</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Tom Cosm was complaining that because he releases all his music under a Creative Commons license rather than commercially, he wasn't eligible for the Vodafone (?) awards.
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the token thing is there to ensure that you are a serious entrant, if you will. It's only $100. Hardly a barrier</p></blockquote><p>Apparently <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=264&amp;objectid=10529751" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">there's a way around it</a></p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<blockquote><p>p.s., A Canadian colleague assures me moose meat is great.</p></blockquote><p>A Møøse once bit my sister ...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>so who decides the arbitrary 'you have sold too many records to be indie' level?</p></blockquote><p>you? :)<br />I'm not making an argument for the term of indie, merely saying it wasn't what I meant by it. When you're representing the guy who topped the charts for months you're moving a…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>on a nz scale that's not the lower level I was meaning by indie.<br />I mean on a local level. Indie has kinda shifted a few steps to the left these days with your typical a low hum type band, really doing it all themselves as in everything. highly successful…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Tiki's 100% indie too: Dirty Records via Rhythmethod</p></blockquote><p>you mean p money and scribes label?</p><p>on a nz scale that's not the lower level I was meaning by indie.<br />I mean on a local level. Indie has kinda shifted a few steps to the left these days with your typical…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>so he or his label paid the hundred and something fee per catigory to have his works considered in the 'new zealand' music awards then. cos unless they've changed the rules you can't play if you don't pay.</p></blockquote><p>the last time I submitted something, a few years back (2002), we…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sept 2008 19:22:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Looking at the list it's pretty much all indies. The Dick Johnson album for example was, I'm pretty sure, non-RIANZ</p></blockquote><p>Tiki's 100% indie too: Dirty Records via Rhythmethod.</p><p>And check out <a href="http://tikidub.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">his website</a>. When you mouseover the navigation it switches to Maori. That's cool.</p>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because we must be strong. Because if we are not strong, then we will be weak. And if we are weak, we will not be strong....</p></blockquote><p>Rich, you sound like <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132347/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Sphinx</a>.</p><p>Meanwhile, those interested in Spore might want to check out Will Wright and Brian Eno giving a seminar…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sept 2008 19:12:27 +1200</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>The Dick Johnson album for example was, I'm pretty sure, non-RIANZ</p></blockquote><p>so he or his label paid the hundred and something fee per catigory to have his works considered in the 'new zealand' music awards then. cos unless they've changed the rules you can't play if you don't pay.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>@Rob: You'd think so.</p></blockquote><p>I would think so, so what is the actual story? maybe its complicated if you buy from no local people. ie people you can't go round and insist you get satisfaction from. <br />that's an interesting part of the net economy worth digging up a few legal…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In a country as small an nz where many artists make an impact purely from their own initiatives,</p></blockquote><p>Looking at the list it's pretty much all indies. The Dick Johnson album for example was, I'm pretty sure, non-RIANZ</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						@Rob: You'd think so.
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						<blockquote><p>Re: Spore.</p></blockquote><p>what's the story on purchasing this game russell. you did a piad download making you a legal owner of the game which was allowed to be activated at a certain time.<br />it didn't go etc.<br />whats your fall back for tech support. surely you paid for a item…</p>
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						<p>It pays to remember that the nz music awards are infact awards given to paid up members of rianz, </p><p>If you are a successful independent artist who is not a member of rianz then it doesn't matter how much the people like you, you are not eligible for an award.…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The Tuis' lineup is the strongest it's been in many years IMO.</p></blockquote><p>For sure. To take one example, I'm not personally a fan of Tiki Tane's music, but I have real respect for the integrity of what he and his management have done. It's nice to see that recognised.</p>
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				<title>amanda peter</title>
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						don't need to know a thing about Brian Johnstown Massacre.  tight as is all that matters.   Woody described them as the <blockquote>penultimate flying nun band</ quote> if they play anything like they did @Civic gig on Wednesday night it will be one of the sonic gigs of the year & madness to…
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						<blockquote><p>Feleti works as community liaison</p></blockquote><p>Ssshhhhhh...don't tell Ms. Palin.....</p><p>Yeah, I think it's great to see the Nesians back in there. They are part of a great tradition of lazy, soulful, urban, reggae-ish pop that goes back to the likes of the wonderful Herbs all those years back and is…</p>
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						Re the Music Awards &ndash; very glad to see Nesian Mystic in there for the Peoples' Choice. Feleti works as community liaison in my part of Mangere, and he comes to our kindergarten every Wednesday and he's a hell of a lovely young man.
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						<blockquote><p>Bring back Trip Hawkins!</p></blockquote><p>Shh. <a href="http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/17/ea-gives-no-mea-culpa-on-wiki-controversy/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">You're not supposed to know about him.</a></p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>Russell:</p><blockquote><p>I'm of the view currently that EA needs to be crucified over this. They've released broken software and made it very difficult to fix because of the way they've applied their DRM.</p><p>Wankers.</p></blockquote><p>Bring back <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trip_Hawkins" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trip Hawkins</a>!</p>
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						<p>I think Kodos put it best when he campaigned on the basis of: “We must go forward, not backward, upward, not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom.”</p><p>p.s., A Canadian colleague assures me moose meat is great.</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>…or imagine if they had kids with names like Track, Trig, Bristol (my favourite), Willow and Piper…</p><p>And people used to criticise Paula Yates for so much less.</p><br /><br /><p><br />BTW, wouldn’t moose meat be pretty rubbery and horrible?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Re: Spore.</p><p>After running a registry cleaner, updating drivers, etc, we decided we'd have to try a reinstall &mdash; and use up one of our  activations in the process.</p><p>So we found the SetUp app (not obvious) and uninstalled the game. Which uninstalled the SetUp app <em>itself</em>.</p><p>Leo had already…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Imagine the hilarity if John Key or Helen Clark tried the equivalent.</p></blockquote><p>Or if they tried to run the kind of palpable untruths that Palin trotted out in her speech. They'd be rightly crucified the next day. It's weird all right.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's like it's randomised or something</p></blockquote><p>Because we must be strong. Because if we are not strong, then we will be weak. And if we are weak, we will not be strong....</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>In their millions....</p><p>Imagine the hilarity if John Key or Helen Clark tried the equivalent. I doubt they could even mouth the words without cracking up. </p><p>It's just so ... preposterous.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And speaking of the environment, Green party campaign launch today:<br />..<br /><a href="http://www.greens.org.nz/election08" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.greens.org.nz/election08</a><br />..<br />Why would you not?</p></blockquote><p>It said to me: "Won't somebody think of the children!!"</p><p>Personally I think they should be targetting new voters in the 18-21 age group (4% of the electorate). If they could get a…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"I'm going to fight to make sure every American has every reason to thank God, as I thank Him: that I'm an American, a proud citizen of the greatest country on earth"</p><p>Sweet Jesus you couldn't make this shit up.</p></blockquote><p>Good grief. It's like it's randomised or something. People buy…</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, on Planet Loonytunes (considerably weirder than a Spore Planet), a would-be leader pronounces:</p><p>"I'm going to fight to make sure every American has every reason to thank God, as I thank Him: that I'm an American, a proud citizen of the greatest country on earth"</p><p>Sweet Jesus you couldn't…</p>
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				<title>andrew r</title>
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						hmmm the kooks really are a shocker of a band truely insipid although yes the cover of kids is ..er... okayish . Not a patch on the original though as John Peel would have said &ndash; really , whats the point ?  As for BJM sounds like that could be…
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p>@Neil Graham :</p><p><a href="http://www.teara.govt.nz/NewZealanders/NewZealandPeoples/KiwisOverseas/2/ENZ-Resources/Standard/1/2/en#breadcrumbtop" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Len Lye</a> would've loved it.</p><p>Cheers,<br />Brent.</p>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>The youtube description says: </p><p>Full screen video, source code, schematics and more at: <a href="http://www.linusakesson.net/scene/craft/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.linusakesson.net/scene/craft/</a></p>
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				<title>James Littlewood*</title>
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						Sooo, I was engaged in my usual commuter stroll up Queen St yesterday with Hornblower when he deadpanned "oh look, we're in a Bravia ad". And sure enough, hundreds of purple sphere were rolling across the Queen/Victoria intersection. One plopped into my foot. "www.purplespehres.co.nz". Right. "Sounds like a Prince song…
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Wow Neil &ndash; bit bashing video on an Atmel FTW!</p><p>Is this open source &ndash; like is there code and circuits?</p><p>My microcontroller art project is <a href="http://richdrich.livejournal.com/32897.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dance Dance Decoration</a> which uses a PICAXE to drive the paint sprayer motors.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>because of the way they've applied their DRM.</p></blockquote><p>Is that the same EA who screwed up my daughters computer so completely on a dozen different levels with their securom on The Sims 2 that I had to demolish the hard drive and reinstall everything to get it working again(she lost…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the download site has been stuck in some hell loading-loop for two days</p><p>Very disappointed girl..</p></blockquote><p>And there's a three-activation limit on the game purchase, and if we we try and reinstall to restore the missing DLL file, we use up <em>another</em> one of those.</p><p>We're not the only…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So the news is that Spore crashes at launch, reporting an "access violation" and a missing DLL &mdash; after, of course, deciding it needs to update. Very disappointed boy.</p></blockquote><p>And the download site has been stuck in some hell loading-loop for two days</p><p>Very disappointed girl..</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>So the news is that Spore crashes at launch, reporting an "access violation" and a missing DLL &mdash; after, of course, deciding it needs to update. Very disappointed boy.</p><p>Windows sucks balls.</p>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a programmable microcontroller</p></blockquote><p>Species?  pic/avr/arm/8051/other </p><p>I show people this with great enthusiasm</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCqrylNY-0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCqrylNY-0</a></p><p>Mostly I get confused looks and a few patronising smiles.  It's a special kind of cool,  Leo might get it. </p><p>Mind Lego.</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>six hour Led Zeppelin shows</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Denmark_street_sign.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">No Stairway</a></p><p>BTW, thanks for the pointer at Purple Spheres.</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a brass section with loud guitars is hard to beat.</p></blockquote><p>Does that mean The Spelling Mistakes are gonna use The Newmatics brass section for a live take of Feel So good?</p>
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				<title>Nigel Russell</title>
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						<p>Nice call on The Saints this morning....a brass section with loud guitars is hard to beat.</p><p>Hunters &amp; Collectors encored their last Powerstation show back in the 90's with a version of "Know your Product" which was nothing short of stunning</p>
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				<title>danduran</title>
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						Comic Mischief would make a totally awesome band name.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sept 2008 11:38:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I gather they played an "epic" three hours in Dunedin.</p></blockquote><p>Without chemical enhancement, that's my particular version of hell. I say get in, get out, leave them gasping. </p><p>I wonder how I would have fared at all those six-hour Led Zeppelin shows in the 70s...</p>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						<p>Yikes, having watched the remainder of the Spore video, it needs at least one more warning:</p><p>"May make children susceptible to ravings of crazed creationists".</p>
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						<p>I love the parental advisory at the start of the Spore introductory video:</p><p>"Animated blood. Comic mischief. Fantasy violence."</p><p>Comic mischief!?  What is the world coming to!? </p><p>I wonder if they slap the same warnings on the front page of Shakespeare's more light-hearted plays?</p>
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				<title>Jonathan Maze</title>
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						Thanks Purple Spheres is a very cool concept. I like the whole lo-tech attitude to hi-tech although I had to go to Wikipedia to find out what a multi touch interface was...
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I hope the microncontroller clicks with him &ndash; if he shows interest in actually making a board from scratch I recommend <a href="http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=index&amp;cPath=19" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">LadyAda's kits</a>  &ndash; easy to build, requires minor soldering skills
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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