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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>There is something to be said for zero tolerance to tags and broken windows.<br />That is for the owner to paint over the tag or fix the window or be prosecuted by the council.</p><p>Confession: My mate &amp; myself aged about 12 sprayed "Tears for Fears" on one of the Vicarage…</p>
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						<p>Eighties !!!!  Eiggghties !!!! </p><p>Well I guess that is me in a way &ndash; At least I understand that you cannot shop your way to a better future.  Don't start me on bikes and cars again either. The gates comment is a bit dumb out of context &ndash; sorry I…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:27:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My interpretation was 'if we don't have zero tolerance for petty crimes like tagging, then people will take the law into their own hands and stab people'. Not quite as egregious as yours, but still pretty bad.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure that's what he meant. But he really should have written it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:00:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>The police said yesterday that it was wrong to make a distinction between tagging and graffiti as both were illegal activities that were antisocial, costly to tackle and made people in communities feel unsafe.</blockquote>  God, it's all so small minded. There is a vast difference between tagging, and people who…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:02:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Chamberlain</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can't read that any other way than 'stabbing of a teenager is a petty crime', which presumably isn't what he meant. But still, talk about not seeing the forest for the tiny sapling.</p></blockquote><p>My interpretation was 'if we don't have zero tolerance for petty crimes like tagging, then people…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:46:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<p>from Robyn's link:</p><blockquote><p>Oscar spoke to the Herald on the grounds of anonymity, and revealed he is a 29-year-old Auckland street artist who works full time in photography. Many graffiti artists like him hold down respectable jobs in advertising, fashion or the film industry, with some first-generation graffiti artists now…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:18:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>This comment by Karl du Fresne in this morning's <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4388344a1861.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dom Post</a> just looks silly to me:</p><blockquote><p>The fatal stabbing of a teenage tagger has revived the debate about the need for zero tolerance of petty crime.</p></blockquote><p>I can't read that any other way than 'stabbing of a teenager is a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:51:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Pleasingly, the Herald today has an <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10490686" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">article looking at street artists</a> who aren't happy to be lumped in with taggers and anti-tagging sentiment.</p><p>Oscar from <a href="http://streetarse.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Street Arse</a> is quoted, and gives a thoughtful perspective. Not surprisingly, street artists don't like those punk-arse taggers either.</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You might get into trouble vandalising those FO gates situated outside gang HQ.</p></blockquote><p>Not to mention those selfish farmers....</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:31:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>How very........<em>bourgeois </em>of you I take it I'm not invited to the barbie then ?</blockquote>Heh heh. That's what fascinated me about your original comment. That someone could seemingly get themselves so upset by someone else errecting a big electric security gate across their drive just seems so ... so ...…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:05:35 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>Weird. Only today I was telling myself how great it was to a have a FO electric gate. It stops people from wandering up and forces them to buzz me on the intercom and announce their presence. Meaning I don't have to put my pants on unless I want to…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:25:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>supercali.... was a nice piece though</p></blockquote><p>Yup!  I'm no Size Queen but you had to marvel at it's length!</p><blockquote><p>a whole article about a homeowner who had to paint his fence almost weekly with the jist of the article being that it is no big deal.</p></blockquote><p>I don't think he thought it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:17:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Was perusing your lovely photo stream and wondered if Greenland hospital was actually in Greenland ?</p></blockquote><p>I don't know what you could possibly mean... ;)</p><p>---</p><p>Another thought on tagging. In the Herald today, <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10490471" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brian Rudman called for banning the sale of aerosol paint</a> to under-18-year-olds.</p><p>That's well and good, but…</p>
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						<p>Robyn &ndash;</p><p>Was perusing your lovely photo stream and wondered if Greenland hospital was actually in Greenland ? <chuckle></p><p>The tagging thing looks like a conversation between the deaf and the blind.</p><p>I want to be seen....I want whites walls.....</p><p>Can't help feeling that I would have tagged as a kid…</p>
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				<title>Oscar Low</title>
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						The irony (if it is indeed genuine concerned citizen) is that these posters could get them charged with the very same charge a tagger faces, willful damage.
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But upon reading the article, it became obvious that the government action was going to be towards taggers, not graffiti artists. I emailed the Herald to let them know the difference.</p></blockquote><p>I know I'm just turning into a sour old cat lady, but I've been EXTREMELY PISSED OFF at the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:21:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a homeowner who had to paint his fence almost weekly with the jist of the article being that it is no big deal.</p></blockquote><p>I noticed something walking the kids home from the pool the other day. Two houses right by a bus-stop. The house on the right had an eight-foot…</p>
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				<title>samuel walker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Herald are clueless. Sideswipe featured a photo of a piece that said 'Supercalifrajilisticexpelidocious' (sp?) with the caption "Nice Tag". Sorry Ana but that was a 'piece', not a 'tag'.</p></blockquote><p>and the scary bit is that thay arent even recent terms, they have been getting it wrong for more than…</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote>But upon reading the article, it became obvious that the government action was going to be towards taggers, not graffiti artists. I emailed the Herald to let them know the difference.</blockquote>The Herald are clueless. Sideswipe featured a photo of a piece that said 'Supercalifrajilisticexpelidocious' (sp?) with the caption "Nice Tag".…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 10:27:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						I've often found that the more objectionable the content of a piece of graffitti, the more objectionable the spelling and/or grammar. I once saw an "Asians go home" where the author had clearly tried about three different spellings of "Asians" during the process of writing it  &ndash; it came out…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:32:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>2. Friday's Herald had the alarming headline "Government to attack graffiti artists from all sides", making it sound like Annette King was about to lay the smack down on graffiti artists like Askew, Misery or Otis Frizzell. Crikey!</p></blockquote><p>No, judging from the story King just wants to put the load…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:24:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>In respective reply:</p><p>(1) I read the second poster as "Taggers [say] we want you [murderers] caught"...</p><p>(2) So: Government ministers tag team wrestling?<br />Holds a certain morbid fascination, I grant you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 01:34:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>On the subject of a graffiti...</p><p>1. A couple of homemade posters have been stuck up around Mt Eden Village, presumedly the work of an angry citizen (plural?) who wants a zero-tolerance policy toward taggers.</p><p>"<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/robyn-gallagher/2232300246/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Only an idoit [sic] would tag there [sic] own backyard</a>," proclaims one, while the other…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>And then I read <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4384115a6479.html?source=RSSdominionpost/localnews_20080202 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> this</a> "Usually memories are not lost &ndash; they are just misplaced," he said. "If you can find the mechanism involved in memory suppression, perhaps you can find a way around the side to retrieve those memories."<br />Damn it, who put that chip in my…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:02:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>And then I read [http://www.stuff.co.nz/4384115a6479.html?source=RSSdominionpost/localnews_20080202 | this] "Usually memories are not lost &ndash; they are just misplaced," he said. "If you can find the mechanism involved in memory suppression, perhaps you can find a way around the side to retrieve those memories."<br />Damn it, who put that chip in my…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It came to me the second I hit "Post Reply".</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if I could get a research grant to study that? It's amazing how well hitting "post reply" works as a spell check too but Just imagine the possibilities, press the "button" and have instant recall of all you…</p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						Gah! Janice Gill! It came to me the second I hit "Post Reply".
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						<blockquote><p>That giraffe cup is basically one of my favourite things about New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>Me, too. I'm also very fond of the hot-chip cup with the newspaper pattern.</p><p>My cousins used to have a painting over their stairs, with an older woman enjoying a milkshake out of one of those cups.…</p>
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						Kyle I'll keep the essay on this for another day suffice to say that PBRF and its cousin RAE never failed to screw the little guy and the new kids on the block.  The biggest tragedy of all has been how effective it has been in undermining collegiality within and…
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I can't comment too much, not being an academic. But (I'll comment anyway).</p><p>1. Talking to a panel chair, he thought that the method of quality assessment was fair if not perfect. People in 'the field' tend to have a fairly good idea of which are the top journals, and…</p>
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						<p>To be fair I was pleased for Otago and I know some of the people who worked very hard to get it right.  The problem with PBRF is threefold IMHO. </p><p>i) Impact factors are a poor way to judge research quality, readership and availability tend to render some researchers more…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>A colleague has dubbed it the medical research reward scheme.</p></blockquote><p>Yes there's some truth in that. There's a multiplier applied to how much money you get. Humanities and Commerce get a multiplier of 1, Sciences  get (I think) 2, and Health Sciences get... 4? It's a way of taking into…</p>
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				<title>Russell Clarke</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So. The Herald Building is "The Shakespeare Tavern"?</p></blockquote><p>It would explain an awful lot.</p>
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						<p>wow who would have thought. <br />Thanks to Russell's link we now have some measure of legitimacy (intended or not) imparted by the accumulated mana of publicaddress. Streetarse has only ever been a site for artists and other interested parties so to receive feedback on that post is surprising but encouraging.…</p>
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Already some action on the Bruce jesson from</p><p><a href="http://www.brucejesson.com/index.html " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Bruce Jesson prize etc.</a></p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						I agree with the comment about giving Beeby his place in the New Zealand sun.  Other heroes who ought be awarded naming rights would be David Lange (has anything been named after him?) and Bruce Jesson.
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and a nice vineyard you missed up by Matakana is Brick Bay. Nice little Noel Lane glass house stretched out over the lake and a sculpture trail up through the surrounding native bush...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, the crawling traffic meant that we ran out of time to get to them all…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But it's achieving its goal of directing funds towards institutions that are doing international quality research, and away from those that aren't.</p></blockquote><p>My point being is that it doesn't reward international research per se; only international research of high impact factor in areas where NZ can convene a panel of…</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<blockquote><p><em>To date, that is possibly my perfect website. Milkshake reviews &ndash; I KNEW the interweb had a purpose...</em></p><p>Awww cheers Gareth, we aim to please. And we're looking for more contributors. I mean, the Wellingtonista has a team of about 15...</p></blockquote><p>Seriously &ndash; milkshake reviews!  Magnificent.<br />Oh, and a nice…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>To date, that is possibly my perfect website. Milkshake reviews &ndash; I KNEW the interweb had a purpose...</p></blockquote><p>Awww cheers Gareth, we aim to please. And we're looking for more contributors. I mean, the Wellingtonista has a team of about 15...</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>one of the problems with the PBRF is that it penalises young researchers for their lack of output.</p></blockquote><p>They have made adjustment for that with the early in career status. They also recognise your PhD as a research output.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p><strong>Aucklandista:</strong><br />The eery Tanuki<br />MILKSHAKE REVIEWS <br />Wine<br />Big Day Out<br />Parnell Pools<br />Volcanoes <br />Noelle McCarthy</p><p><br />To date, that is possibly my perfect website.  Milkshake reviews &ndash; I KNEW the interweb had a purpose...</p>
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						one of the problems with the PBRF is that it penalises young researchers for their lack of output.  And if young researchers can't see the light at the end of the tunnel, why should they continue with their work? All that will end up happening is that they will abandon…
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Thanks Russell</p><p>Regarding Foo camp</p><blockquote><p>Will be looking forward to the reports.</p></blockquote><p>As I recall one of the criteria for Wikipedia is that events be significant and therfore Someone has to notice the outputs.</p><p>From Wellington I hear that one of the debates on peering </p><p>See <a href="http://www.internetnz.net.nz/issues/current-issues/peering " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">peering</a> for example…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Why?</p><p>I mean, it's by no means a perfect exercise, and the UK has recently dumped the exercise on which its based.</p><p>But it's achieving its goal of directing funds towards institutions that are doing international quality research, and away from those that aren't.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Now PBRF is stripping that research component out of the EFTS funding and returning it to institutions that do OK in the research exercise &ndash; pretty much universities</p></blockquote><p>Sorry Kyle might have to agree to disagree on that one.  Yes research funding should be spent on research activity...but the devil…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Who do you think we need to "come down like a ton of bricks" on?</p></blockquote><p>How about the ubiquitous THEM?<br />On a serious note. Most societies have laws like these that are left to "hang about utill needed" so that those that have the power can hang onto it at all…</p>
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						<blockquote>Steve you are an evil bastard &mdash; keep it up. :)</blockquote>tee hee
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						Sorry Steve, I'm still not getting your drift.  Who exactly do you think we need to throw in jail for blasphemy?  Who do you think we need to "come down like a ton of bricks" on?
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						<blockquote><p>Not in law, but hopefully in education we promote some correct views on physics.</p></blockquote><p>Hopefully.  But my point is that we don't throw people in jail for being wrong about physics.  Neither do we throw them in jail for their views on economics, climatology, or parental discipline.  What makes theology…</p>
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						<p>Have I just had my piss taken?</p><p>Steve you are an evil bastard &mdash; keep it up. :)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>What possible legitimate purpose could be served by throwing people in jail for their views on Christian theology?</p></blockquote><p>What possible legitimate purpose could be served by throwing people in jail under any circumstance other than to protect society from said people? The problem is that society is not homogenous so…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>So, in reality it would take a rather demented Attorney-General to bring such a case............I hope</p></blockquote><p>If you'd told me ten years ago that 'sedition' was still on the books, let alone would be used as it was against Tim Selwyn, I'd suggest you take one of those giraffe cups…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I "get" your joke, but sadly George is a reformed alcoholic and now tee-total. This of course helps partially explain what a chronic, santimonious bore he is. Maybe he's just a teetotaltotalitarian? :)</p><p>Maybe he's our age's answer to T.S Green?</p></blockquote><p>T.S. Green? Rings no bells in my belfry. Was…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It is not the role of government to promote "correct" theology or religious views, any more than it is their role to promote correct views on physics.</p></blockquote><p>Not in law, but hopefully in education we promote some correct views on physics.</p>
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						<p>Steve: I'm sorry, I don't catch your drift.</p><p>What possible legitimate purpose could be served by throwing people in jail for their views on Christian theology?</p><p>What possible legitimate reason could the government have to <em>care</em> about such issues?</p><p>It is not the role of government to promote "correct" theology…</p>
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						As with many laws the intent of the legislator is toward a greater good, as we are always told "you have nothing to worry about unless you are a terrorist/criminal/whatever" but as we all know, laws based on flimsy descriptions and implications become a danger to us all once the…
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				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>O'Sullivan, from behind a lipstick smeared half empty beer glass "You know what's wrong with this country George?"<br />George, propping up the bar with a leather patched corduroy elbow "PFFFraaaaarp"</p></blockquote><p>I "get" your joke, but sadly George is a reformed alcoholic and now tee-total. This of course helps partially explain…</p>
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						<p>Steve: You'd like to think that was some protection, but still, wouldn't it be better not to have to worry?</p><p>This law doesn't serve any legitimate or useful purpose.  It's a remnant from a past age of religious persecution.  And we should do away with it entirely.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>would s.123 be used to bring a prosecution for blaspheming a non-christian deity or religion?</p></blockquote><p>From <a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM329036.html?search=ad_act&lt;em&gt;crimes&lt;/em&gt;_123_aa_acur_r&amp;sr=1 " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Here</a></p><blockquote><p>No one shall be prosecuted for an offence against this section without the leave of the Attorney-General, who before giving leave may make such inquiries as he thinks fit.</p></blockquote><p>So, in reality…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The Performance Based Research Fund and research incentives for tertiary education are not the issue for SIT from the different perspectives of the major protagonists: SIT (and friends of SIT), the Minister, and the Tertiary Education Commission.</p></blockquote><p>The funding changes that have matched the PBRF have (not wrongly I think)…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>But thank you for spreading that image to the rest of us!</p></blockquote><p>I was hoping to dilute it by spreading it. It's not working, perhaps the only cure will be to drink another thousand lime milkshakes (and not before boarding a train).</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Now I can't shake the memory. I'm grateful for their awesomely large cup, but I don't want to drink from it any more.</p></blockquote><p>But thank you for spreading that image to the rest of us!</p>
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						<blockquote><p>would s.123 be used to bring a prosecution for blaspheming a non-christian deity or religion?</p></blockquote><p>While the way it has been written seems to be religiously neutral, thanks to UK precedent, most legal commentators believe that it applies eclusively to Christianity (some go further and believe it applies exclusively to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Afghanistan isn't the only country which outlaws blasphemy. Take a look at s 123 of the Crimes Act...</p></blockquote><p>serious question from here.</p><p>would s.123 be used to bring a prosecution for blaspheming a non-christian deity or religion?</p><p>as it's written it appears not to preclude the possibility.</p>
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						<p>Oh yes, the lolcat Titus Andronicus is sheer genius.</p><p>Has anyone else notices that locats come across like Yoda with serious dyslexia?  With the pointy ears, small stature and so on, I thought that there'd be crossovers.  Anyone want to try?</p><p>(I'm busy trying to make sense of Daniel Libeskind…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>SIT is not and never has been a University</p></blockquote><p>True, oversimplification on my part.  I should have just said words to the effect that funding formulae in the general tertiary sector had been mistaken for entitlement and that changes had been ignored.</p>
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						<p>And while we're on the topic, it's worth remembering that Afghanistan isn't the only country which outlaws blasphemy.  Take a look at <a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM329036.html#DLM329036" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">s 123 of the Crimes Act</a>...</p><p>Shouldn't we remove the mote from our own eye and repeal this archiac, ridiculous, and theocratic law?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Will be looking forward to the reports.</p></blockquote><p>Sure. Just about to go, but I'll try and get together something along the lines you suggest next week.</p>
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						<p>Tom &ndash; there is already a school &ndash; grouping that celebrates Ed's legacy in Manukau city. Hillary College has been around since the 60's but now it is joined by 2 other schools since 2001.</p><p>From their website</p><blockquote><p>The new collegiate was launched by its namesake, Sir Edmund Hillary on…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>bro. just throw away the cup, and get a new one.</p></blockquote><p>LOL. Being a tidy kiwi I was tempted to dispose of it conscientiously, but the idea of carrying a full (to the brim) cup of piss in my hand all the way home to a toilet got less appealing…</p>
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						<p>I thought the graffiti blog offered the most poignant, and relevant opinion on the whole 'yoof crime/tagging etc' issue that's the moral panic du jour...</p><p>Makes you wonder why Campbell, Sainsbury et al, with all of their writers and reasearchers can't come up with anything even slightly resembling an alternative…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>The tavern is directly across the road from the Herald building and would have offered patrons front-row seats for the commotion.</p><p>But I'm surprised that such a dramatic event happened literally on the Herald's doorstep and yet they only reported it with a three-sentence article.</p></blockquote><p>I know both buildings well,…</p>
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						<p>douglasof240:</p><p>Thanks for refreshing my memory, but I thought it was a little more serious than a Murdoch media beat-up based on a couple of quotes lacking citations.</p><p>Anyway, before we start up a pity party for Dr. Goodwin, she might be off the speed dial at the PBS Newshour,…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Fortunately in an empty carriage I discovered a used "Longest Drink in Town" cup. It was just enough.</p><p>Now I can't shake the memory. I'm grateful for their awesomely large cup, but I don't want to drink from it any more.</p></blockquote><p>bro. just throw away the cup, and get a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>It's Foo time!</p></blockquote><p>as a side bar or should that be a baaah &ndash; good to see that Foo is still on wicked pedia after all the fuss last year. <br />Would be useful to hear what significant outcomes actually eventuated &ndash;<br />* like changes to copyright legislation?<br />* changes to…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>So. The Herald Building is "The Shakespeare Tavern"?</p></blockquote><p>The tavern is directly across the road from the Herald building and would have offered patrons front-row seats for the commotion.</p><p>But I'm surprised that such a dramatic event happened literally on the Herald's doorstep and yet they only reported it with…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Doris Kearns Goodwin? Lordy, she's the one accused of plagiarism in her presidential biographies(by the Weekly Standard, but hey...</p></blockquote><p>Well, I'd even give <em>The Nation</em> credit where credit's due &mdash; on the theory that even a broken watch is right twice a day.</p><blockquote><p>So. The Herald Building is "The Shakespeare…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>Milly is right.  SIT is a polytechnic, not a university.  Never has been and has never stated it wants to be.  </p><p>The Performance Based Research Fund and research incentives for tertiary education are not the issue for SIT from the different perspectives of the major protagonists: SIT (and friends of…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>That giraffe cup is basically one of my favourite things about New Zealand (yes, I am a weirdo).</p></blockquote><p>It used to be for me until an unfortunate experience in Melbourne, boarding the last train from Warragul to the City after getting a bit sloshed. What was a mild desire to…</p>
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						<p>From WIki</p><p>Claims of Plagiarism<br />The January 18, 2002, issue of The Weekly Standard made a case for Doris Kearns Goodwin as a plagiarist, arguing that her book, "The Fitzgeralds and the Kennedys," used without attribution numerous phrases and sentences from three other books: "Time to Remember," by Rose Kennedy;…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm not aware of a comparable petition to our own government.</p></blockquote><p>So perhaps its time someone started one.</p><p>New Zealand has troops in Afghanistan.  We're propping up the people supporting this obscenity.  We should be using whatever influence we have &ndash; including the threat to stop propping them up -…</p>
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						<p>Before this thread gets on topic I'm wondering if any of youse saw this in today "Harold"</p><blockquote><p>A police pursuit ended with two people jumping from a stolen car before it crashed into the Herald building in Albert St last night. Patrons at the Shakespeare Tavern watched as the man…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>I think she admitted to unwitting plagiarism &ndash; blamed it on her research assistants or something? It's a bit fuzzy...</p><p>I cannot tell you how thrilled I am that there is a blog called Longest Drink in Town. That giraffe cup is basically one of my favourite things about New…</p>
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						<p>Something that stood out from that graffiti blog entry was this:</p><blockquote><p>Graffiti is a problem because most people think it’s poor, violent, brown people trawling their streets tagging fences. ... The truth is graffiti in your neighbourhood is made by people from your neighbourhood, if there’s tagging in Epsom it’s…</p></blockquote>
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						Doris Kearns Goodwin? Lordy, she's the one accused of plagiarism in her presidential biographies(by the Weekly Standard, but hey, she hasn't been invited back since by PBS to appear as an expert presidential historian on the News Hour.
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						<p>And off same site (linked through hiphopnz I believe he said):</p><blockquote><p>but at least we got him at “the starting point” before he “jumped on the criminal treadmill”. aint that right lord mayor of Manukua city, Mr Brown.</p></blockquote><p>Cuttingly accurate.</p>
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						<p>Quote of the week from that graffiti artist's response:</p><blockquote><p>so concerned with fences, i think we forget whats behind them</p></blockquote><p>Buy that young man a spray can, hope he spreads that message around.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Amy Gale digests Titus Andronicus in lolcat. Genius.</p></blockquote><p>BLOODY CLEVR. YOOVE FINISHED? TRY  <a href="http://sub-zero.mit.edu/bakunin/hamlet.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">TEH SKINHEDD HAMLET</a>!</p><p>HEREZ TASTE:</p><blockquote><p>ACT I<br />SCENE I</p><p>The Battlements of Elsinore Castle.</p><p>[Enter HAMLET, followed by GHOST.]</p><p>GHOST: Oi! Mush!</p><p>HAMLET: Yer?</p><p>GHOST: I was fucked!</p><p>[Exit GHOST.]</p><p>HAMLET: O Fuck.</p><p>[Exit HAMLET.]</p></blockquote><p>LOL</p>
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						<p>Re Tom Cruise remixes &mdash; have a look at these. The top two &mdash; the Hillary/Cruise and the Craig Ferguson &mdash; are especially good.</p><p><a href="http://gawker.com/349857/the-ultimate-tom-cruise-scientology-parody-video-roundup" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://gawker.com/349857/the-ultimate-tom-cruise-scientology-parody-video-roundup</a></p>
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