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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Thank you. That would make an interesting doco subject.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:09:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>According to the blue squad member who lived over the back fence back then, “Those people should never have come here, but we’ve got a job to do.”</q></p><p>I turned six during the Springbok tour. My father was a police sergeant in Auckland at the time and commanded a squad…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:03:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q>“The police objective was to maintain law and order and ensure that no one died as a result of public beliefs.”</q></p><p>There must be a statistic for that...<br />Death caused by public belief.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:11:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>"The police objective was to maintain law and order and ensure that no one died as a result of public beliefs."</p><p>So.Noble.</q><br />According to the blue squad member who lived over the back fence back then,  "Those people should never have come here, but we've got a job to do."…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:54:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						So. Arselicking. Of the Establishment.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 21:16:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>I do recall my father coming home gray faced after Molesworth street and I realised that his view of NZ police had taken a severe turn. </q></p><p>I've been meaning for quite some time to write a review of the national police museum in Porirua. Their brochure has a wee section…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:53:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/07/tottenham-riot-looting-north-london" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">It's all happening again</a>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:26:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>It was, kind of, Global I was living in New Cross at the time of the <a href="http://www.google.co.nz/search?client=opera&amp;rls=en&amp;q=riot+1981&amp;sourceid=opera&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;channel=suggest " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Brixton Riot</a><br /><q>In January 1981 a house fire, a suspected racially-motivated arson, had killed a number of black youths in New Cross; the police investigation was criticised as inadequate.</q><br />It was one of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 02:11:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dinah Dunavan</title>
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						I was 16 in 1981 and about as anti-tour as I could be. I marched in Wellington with such joy and excitement to be part of the good fight. But before things got scary I had an operation on my foot which meant I couldn't walk long distances and so…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 15:47:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>It's the giant rats with poisonous mohawks I would be worried about.</q><br />Lyall Watson speculated that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maned_Rat" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">lophiomys</a> used those wick-like hairs to diffuse a mood-altering pheromone that induced a sense of unease in potential predators. Kind of a psycho-skunk. Definitely a critter to be respected.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLheG3aSpVU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLheG3aSpVU</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:11:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>A FAILED phuqeing pig farmer to boot....</p><p>And -David Hood?<br />Yet another animal I'd love to have around the place (not quite as a pet you understand. Anything as awesome as that is nobody's pet-)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:41:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						When it comes to sharp animals, I wouldn't be worried about porcupines. It's the <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/191671/20110803/african-crested-rat-poison-rodent-jonathan-kingdon.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">giant rats with poisonous mohawks</a> I would be worried about.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:34:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						And really, is there anything more fun that sitting through three hours of a live 'tape' of a 1989 Hacienda House night mix featuring classics (and the blardy whistles) on a Friday afternoon?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:29:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>It’s more a case of finding some criteria, any criteria, to get from impossible number to read properly let alone interview to something feasible.</q></p><p>Nope. My friend is gay, and really, who wants to be confronted by a nauseating display of heterosexuality? Not him and I don’t blame him.</p><p>ETA:…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:26:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Christopher Dempsey</title>
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						<p><q>As in Orwell's 1984 or Sir Roger's 1984? Or maybe even both?</q></p><p>OMG. I've just realised. The revolution in 1984 happened the same year Orwell's book was set. Is there a PhD in there somewhere? And Roger isn't a Sir, he's a flamin' pig farmer. He's no Sir. </p><p>*I became…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:23:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>Fairly sure these ones are both gay, though.</q></p><p>Published just in time then.<br />Be sure to get them to confer their sexual preferences as soon as they arrive and make a note of it in the margin of your address book for future reference.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:20:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Amazingly, I *do* have "John & Bronwyn" coming to dinner this weekend. Fairly sure these ones are both gay, though.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:07:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I threw a Porcupine at a dart board once.<br />I scored 3,472</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:55:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>those sharp animals will get you every time</q><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkM6eIGo-I&amp;NR=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkM6eIGo-I&amp;NR=1</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:47:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>When falling try to avoid sharp corners and animals</q></p><p>those sharp animals will get you every time</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:21:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>4. 3 am is not the best time to throw a dinner party, especially after a hard night out.</p><p>5. When reaching for little used kitchen implements on top of the cupboard be sure to use a stepladder or some form of scaffolding.</p><p>6. When falling try to avoid sharp…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:13:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Marcus Turner</title>
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						I'm hoping I can get away with some self-promotion: I've seen others doing it here. Dunedin people who aren't migrating for the Great Blend might be diverted by the Chaps' CD launch at the Crown Mill Function Centre. Saturday 8.00 pm. I don't think there'll be any folk dancing ...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:07:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>3. When transferring contacts to a new address book be sure to have identities checked by a professional.<br />This can prevent embarrassing situations when you invite "John &amp; Bronwyn" to dinner</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						You've been on Google+ too much.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:07:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						2. Always insist on a full name and address when being introduced to new friends.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:03:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Handy Hints</p><p>1. Using an old telephone directory as an address book can save you money, just cross out the people you don't know.</p>
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				<title>nzlemming</title>
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						Wow, thanks for that stephen. Memories...
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:06:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>. . . oh and anyone who puts folk dancing as their hobby.</q><br />Just the type who'd get a kick out of spiking your drink and smilingly lurking about to see what it did to you:<br />[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Gottlieb|A stutterer from childhood, Gottlieb got a master's degree in speech therapy. He also…</p>
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				<title>Anonymous Author</title>
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						<p>Heh. viztoptips are pickled capers in the nostalgic bolognese of my adolescence.</p><p>VETS. A human armpit hair makes a great prosthetic leg for an invalid spider.</p><p>CONVINCE people that you are a robot by constantly walking around like a robot.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:13:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Tips?<br />Always reply to unsolicited questionnaires.<br />Use your imagination to the max, and your neighbour's PC.</p>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Chabon is a real pleasure to read, and he doesnt repeat himself – you never know what to expect next.<br />And I think you’ll love “The Final Solution” – it’s a helpful hint towards the -nah, why spoil pleasures ahead?</p><p>"Summerland" is another goodie, and "Gentlemen of the Road (first…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>This one works, I know :-)<br /><strong>Confuse Government Departments</strong><br />By replying to a letter they never sent you.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>#viztoptips</q></p><p>Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view. <br />Fnah</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>not that you have a choice not to but</q></p><p>Well I could run away from responsibilities, I guess, but I don't expect a medal for not having done that to my own beloved child. I'm certainly not a superdad, either &ndash; that's quite an unrealistic thing to expect of anyone,…</p>
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						I've been waiting for anyone to pick up on the upcoming ban on synthetic cannabinoids. I guess my 2c will be that it seems quite lame, that the brief taste of what was almost like dope being legal in NZ did not lead to the collapse of society. Going to…
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						<p><q>More than enough literary threads</p><p>The impossibility of this phrase should not be allowed to pass unnoticed :)</q></p><p>I blame Jolisa's lack of blogging, because while I'm entertained by such threads I sure as hell can't contribute to them.</p>
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						<p><q>wheat from the chaff</q></p><p>It's more a case of finding some criteria, any criteria, to get from impossible number to read properly let alone interview to something feasible.</p><p>I'll also include "entertaining fonts", name dropping as in "I happened to be in the lab the day XXX walked past", notes…</p>
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						<p><q>More than enough literary threads</q><br />The impossibility of this phrase should not be allowed to pass unnoticed :)</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p><q>It's more that the big focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic </q></p><p>And I'd add the sub curriculum &ndash; keep quiet, stay still, take instructions, report on time, be part of  large group etc etc . <br />In my work I come across many boys "diagnosed" with ADHD &ndash; actually they are…</p>
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						<p><q>and not the usual slow motion descent into food, copyright, coffee, whisky and bikes</q></p><p>What do you mean slow?</p><p>But yes, thank you for adding some bookish-ness.  Was just saying to someone [sic] how much I missed the book threads.  Am reading Arivind Adiga’s <em><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jun/15/last-man-tower-adiga-review" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Last Man In Tower</a></em>, about modern…</p>
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						<p><strong>On my bedside table...</strong><br />While we have a truly open, and random, thread &ndash; and not the usual slow motion descent into food, copyright, coffee, whisky and bikes &ndash; may I shout out a hearty personal endorsement for the writings of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chabon" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Michael Chabon</a> &ndash; a tad behind the rest of…</p>
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						<p>Employers: Only employ lucky people. Throw half the CVs you receive away without looking at them. </p><p>#viztoptips</p>
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						<p><q>But what of play, imagination, creativity , socializing .. um .. being human? </q></p><p>Indeed. My boy is doing great at school, at National Standard for everything, despite the large dead part of his brain that years of therapy have been directed at mitigating the consequences of. But those standards don't…</p>
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						<p><q>Doesn't 1984 mean anything?</q></p><p>As in Orwell's 1984 or Sir Roger's 1984? Or maybe even both?</p>
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						<p><q>    What I struggle to get past is the great and apparently sincere speech that BIll English gave at the launch of David Cohen’s book about his autistic son, back when English was in Opposition. In government: not so much.</p><p>Did he realise that these services cost money? Real money? Or…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Never ever put your age, personal interests or gender on a Resume or CV.</q></p><p>Reminds me of my friend, very senior in a large civil engineering firm who has a nifty way of sorting out the wheat from the chaff; he chucks out any CV that states early on that…</p>
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						<p><q>the ubiquitous ball</q></p><p><a href="http://www.level7.co.nz/FOUR/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Heh</a> (sfw, don't worry)</p>
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						<p><q> sadly it proved to be unsingable by the masses</q><br />Well they could've made it easier for the masses.<br />Yaknow the chorus wearing T-shirts with the lyric written on it, animated voice bubbles. They always help.<br />Or scrolling lyrics and the ubiquitous ball.</p>
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						<p><strong>The Paula Bennett Child <br />Indoctrination Centre</strong><br /><em>A Division of Tolley Enterprises</em><br />I can't understand this Government, <br />on one hand they make concerned noises <br />about vulnerable children and how vital early childhood is in the developmental spectrum <br />and then cutting Playcentre funding...<br />Will they have National Standards for Kindergartens next, and…</p>
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						<p>NZ History site has some great material on the '81 tour,</p><p>'The 1981 Springbok rugby tour', <a href="http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/culture/1981-springbok-tour" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/culture/1981-springbok-tour</a> (Ministry for Culture and Heritage)</p><p>I especially got lost in the media gallery</p>
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				<title>Richard Aston</title>
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						<p>Thanks for bringing Playcentre up Greville. <br />My alarm bells have already been ringing with the pushing of ECE (Early Childhood Education) as a cure all social for our social issues. My issue with ECE is what appears to be an increasing drive to bring academic thinking earlier and earlier into…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I also saw <a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/patu-1983" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Patu!</a> Merata Mita’s great documentary on the '81 tour twice in the US &ndash; once in the PFA at a NZ film festival, in a tiny theatre &ndash; there were some rather snooty expats in the row behind me who kept commenting how they couldn't see what…
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						I almost forgot &ndash; not long after I moved to the US some sent me that EP &ndash; I didn't have a record player and had no idea what was on it &ndash; 6 months later I got someone at work to copy it onto tape for me .... and…
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						<p><q>some kind of protest</q></p><p>There's <a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/ED1108/S00013/playcentre-sends-out-an-sos.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>. My wife and kids will be attending.</p>
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						While 1981 might have marked some kind of turning point, it wasn't long before we were all out there marching again &ndash; another year, another tour to stop.  I mainly remember the adrenaline surge every time the protest marches passed a pub and the tanked-up boof heads spilled out looking…
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				<title>Kate Hannah</title>
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						along with the striped mothercare buggy, I am <strong>also</strong> a Playcentre kid. 2 generations of our family attended Peachgrove Playcentre in Hamilton..... the withdrawal of funding from such a critical resource is hugely ridiculous. When I was attending with my kids in the early 2000s, the area around Peachgrove had…
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Playcentre helped keep my family sane and together at a time of particular stress a couple of decades ago. It was around that time that a certain Minister of Education, Phil Goff, recognised its important role and brought it into the same funding regime system as other ECE providers, meaning…
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Thanks for that Greville. I have the full Taskforce report here to hand &ndash; all 212 (A4) pages of it. I haven't read it yet but I'm sure that isn't far away.
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				<title>Greville Whittle</title>
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						<p>On a tangential note. I've been reading up on the ECE task-force and am dismayed at the impact to <a href="http://www.playcentre.org.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">PlayCentre</a> should the changes be implemented. I see that one of the members, Dr Anne Smith, <strong>doesn't</strong> recommend changing the current funding. in fact she says:<br /><q> I am concerned, however, that…</q></p>
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						<p>I could code that for you. It might involve character recognising the words "737-900" on the tail. But that's how I'd identify one in real life.</p><p>Incidentally, those <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Dash_8#Incidents_and_accidents" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Q300's</a> on the Nelson run. I think they make you turn your phone off to avoid people googling the wiki article, and…</p>
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						I was a rather naïve 6th former at the time, and although I was fundamentally anti-tour, I reacted against being told to be anti-tour by our headmaster (this included being told that absence from school was permitted during any scheduled protest and that there would be no dishonour in being…
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				<title>Kate Hannah</title>
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						Nice linkage. I worked with Michael King in 2003 and 2004 on the history of the University. All those people so important &ndash; and their stories so interesting. Characters the lot of them.
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						Oh the smallness of New Zealand! Yes they were such key figures in the founding of Waikato.
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						<p>So, Google has a new image search tool. As is usually the case with image search, the results are <a href="http://bit.ly/piK12J" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">unreliable</a>, and frequently hilarious.</p><p>The gold standard for me will be when image search can tell a Boeing 737-900 from a 777-200. For the moment I'd simply settle for being able…</p>
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						We all try to do the best we can but -yaaaas.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q><br />b) for big-breasted women (me &ndash; or smallbreasted women) it is a painful and intrusive procedure, and<br />c)it returns a high rate of false positives, and &ndash; worse- false negatives.</q></p><p>I know the Mangere Health Centre has just bought a new machine that deals with large breasts in a much…</p>
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						<p>Thank you Raymond. I appreciate your concern. Truly.<br /> Fact is, there is no history of breast cancer in situ for any family person &ndash; Mary Emma's were secondaries.<br />Given the physical intrusion, and my large breasts, there is no way I'd have a mammogram. The alternatives are about as useless…</p>
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						<p><q>how good he is with the electorate, how he turns up to everything, etc.</q></p><p>I have heard, on good authority, that the Honourable Member would turn up to the opening of an envelope. I do not, however, have any information on the contents of said envelope.</p>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>I hear what you are saying Islander and if it feels right for you that is ok<br />But let me give my wife's experience, her difference is that her mother had breast cancer and survived another 15 years so because of the risk she has been have mamograms for some…</p>
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				<title>Christopher Nimmo</title>
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						<p><q>Sure, but a very significant minority do and I entirely miss what his appeal is?</q></p><p>So do I, but the media always <em>talk</em> about how good he is with the electorate, how he turns up to everything, etc. To an extent it's true, except that Chauvel and Shanks are the…</p>
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						<p><q>Most don't vote for him.</q></p><p>iPredict <a href="http://www.electionresults.co.nz/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> tends to differ</a><br />Unfortunately.</p>
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						Sure, but a very significant minority do and I entirely miss what his appeal is?
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						<p><q>His brother Mick (real name Denis) was the first Vice Chancellor of Waikato I think</q></p><p>Not VC but one of the leading advocates for Waikato's establishment, a little of the history is <a href="http://www.waikato.ac.nz/about/history.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. The first VC was Llewellen (sp).</p>
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						<p>George D, after my sister Mary Emma's experience with the Aussie breast screening programme, I was forever put off.<br />Data line:<br />Mary was a nurse.<br />Every year after she was fifty, she has a mammogram.<br />At 53, she had a positive result. She then had a mastectomy. Then, after recovering…</p>
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						<p><q>You go on your way</q></p><p>Ok then.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg8aH0NyJPg&amp;feature=related" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg8aH0NyJPg&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Yes Rufus (Anthony) Rogers. Was an MP 1972-5. Died aged about 95 in 2009. His brother Mick (real name Denis) was the first Vice Chancellor of Waikato I think. The family was among those who had been working on the idea of a local university for a while.
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						<p><q>WTF do Ohariu Belmont voters think they’re getting from this twit!</q></p><p>Most don't vote for him.</p>
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						Sorry for the non sequitur, but to save all of the PA community the bother, I can report this <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/focusonpolitics/audio/2494639/focus-on-politics-for-29-july-2011.asx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> interview with Peter Dunne is as vacuous as you'd imagine. What a total waste of space this man is. WTF do Ohariu Belmont voters think they're getting from this twit!
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						<p><q>Yeah someone must have a spreadsheet that calculates ...</q></p><p>You've got elasticity of demand, adaptation to higher prices, effect of fiscal and interest rate settings, etc, to factor in. I think if you asked ten economists you'd get eleven answers.</p><p>You could probably get a reasonable approximation to what happens…</p>
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						I got to use the tactics I learned during the tour around  organising protests a lot &ndash; we moved to California and got drawn into pro-choice clinic defense groups &ndash; were up against what looked like plain middle class women in pastels trying to peacefully barricade clinics &ndash; what the…
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						Rufus Rogers? I interviewed him in oh, 2004/2005 when I was working on some stuff to do with the university's history.....
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				<title>Kate Hannah</title>
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						I worked with Cathy Colebourne <a href="http://www.waikato.ac.nz/wfass/subjects/history/people/catharine/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.waikato.ac.nz/wfass/subjects/history/people/catharine/</a> years ago on an oral history project for Tokonui &ndash; it was an honour to meet and record stories of former patients and former staff. It may be my bias, given that I'm a lover of words, and stories, but the opportunity to tell…
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<p><q>Heh!  I recall the offer being open.  But then I'd only have one, and that would be... fewer?</q></p><p>I recall it had no steamer. That was the problem I faced. Anyway My Gaggia Titanium is a treat. You go on your way with you coffee collectables :)</p>
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						<p><q>Some of the saddest stories I've read are by those who were severely physically disabled and also non-verbal. Very vulnerable and a universal assumption that they were also intellectually impaired. I've been to two conference presentations by such people relating their experience of institutionalisation. Very powerful.</q><br />A little incident my…</p>
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						My father's cousin (Dr Rogers &ndash; former MP)  had the safe house in Hamilton. He had to do a lot of bandaging and his wife a lot of comforting.
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						<p><q>Incidentally, the local cop, who had been rung by one of the Franz welcome group, had better things to do with his time than turn up.</q></p><p>Brilliant.</p>
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						<p><q>You need an econometrician</q></p><p>Yeah someone must have a spreadsheet that calculates that. Which is why I was hoping Keith might know.</p><p>It's also more complex than just Oil. CPI also includes imported consumer goods (I think). So they should respond directly to changes in the dollar but how much…</p>
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						My parents marched in Hamilton &ndash; but left the march before the game was famously stopped &ndash; they had me, 4, my brother, 7 and my sister was 'on the way' &ndash; so decided it was not the best environment for all those small children. Many of their friends (my…
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						<p><q> if the NZ dollar drops to say 75 US cents what will happen to our fuel prices? </q></p><p>In 2000, bulk gasoline was about <a href="http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/E3FF7098-DBEF-4ECA-9E26-AB2AA13C39AC/448/0015Petrol3.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">64%</a> of pump petrol costs. You've also got the refinery mark up in there (something amusingly called the <em>crack spread</em>) &ndash; I'm guessing maybe 50% of todays…</p>
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						That motorway one was quite fun. Just near where we lived. Trevor Richards updating the crowd via a loud hailer as he was listening on a transistor radio to events elsewhere (was that the Hamilton game?). Wonder what the protest technology of 2041 will be?
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						<p>In the winter of 1981, I was 34, didnt have a vehicle, and was working at the Franz Post Office, commuting from Big O courtesy my neighbour.</p><p>We knew about the protests, were very much for them and anti-tour, but what could I do?</p><p>About midway through the tour, word…</p>
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						I was 10 during the Tour and remember almost entirely vicariously. Watching the field invasion live, and Dad explaining what it was all about. He then explained at dinner how he felt about it, that it was a very hard choice, given that he both loved rugby and had strong…
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						I wasn't old enough to experience 1981, but had I been, I would have been firmly on the anti-Tour side.
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						Was on every march in Wellington EXCEPT Molesworth Street. Previous Saturday we had blocked the motorway &ndash; no one thought of wearing helmets then &ndash; After reports of Molesworth came through we started wearing them...
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						In 1981 there were several of us young mothers who took our babies on the marches in those striped buggies. But things got nasty at Molesworth Street and we didn't take them after that as it was too dangerous (that night we escaped and went home to watch the royal…
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						<p>Musical corporate culture (via Gemma Gracewood).</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9sc1P4s3ow" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9sc1P4s3ow</a></p>
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						<p>Some of the saddest stories I've read are by those who were severely physically disabled and also non-verbal. Very vulnerable and a universal assumption that they were also intellectually impaired.  I've been to two conference presentations by such people relating their experience of institutionalisation. Very powerful. </p><p>On the other hand…</p>
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						<p><q>And everyone but John Key can remember the answer.</q></p><p>I was four. But I 'marched' in my red and white striped mothercare buggy. And I still recall a first year New Zealand history class, maybe in 1999 or 2000 when the whole rest of the class (a few years younger…</p>
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						<p><q>L'omino coi baffi </q></p><p>That is clappity inducing awesome.  Thanks.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<q>But could the residents have readily left? From the account of the family member in the Spectrum Care book trying to get her older brother out in the 1980s was not possible.She talks about being only allowed to take him out for a short time and the distress of both…</q>
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						<p><q>I actually use a Bialetti stovetop. Although I've started calling the man in the logo drawing 'Gio'.</q></p><p>Hah! His actual name is L'omino coi baffi (the little mustachioed man) and he's a movie star. </p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrz0KVLKh8o" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrz0KVLKh8o</a></p>
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						<p><q>And because he didn't sell me his Atomic</q></p><p>Heh!  I recall the offer being open.  But then I'd only have one, and that would be... fewer?</p><p>Cheers Rich.  Am hoping the lurgy goes away sufficiently before then.  Otherwise it will be mock-tales [sic] for me.  ;-)</p>
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						<p><q>Mocking with love, Recordari. With love. :)</q></p><p>And because he didn't sell me his Atomic (yes ,I need 2 alright) I went out and got a Gaggia. Making a bloody nice cuppa I must say.:)</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyone want a coffee some time?</p></blockquote><p>I'll buy you a drink or two at the blend.</p>
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						<p>So if the NZ dollar drops to say 75 US cents what will happen to our fuel prices? And what will be the flow on costs to the CPI?</p><p>I know in rough terms we'll be f'd but I was wondering if anyone has a spreadsheet that could estimate that…</p>
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						<p><q>Mocking with love, Recordari. With love. :)</q></p><p>I redacted, but thanks, and the offer stands.  Some time in Spring I reckon.</p>
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						<p><q>I realise you are joking, and mocking at the same time</q></p><p>Mocking with love, Recordari. With love. :)</p><p>I actually use a Bialetti stovetop. Although I've started calling <a href="http://www.bialettishop.com/Design/LogoMan150.gif" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the man in the logo drawing</a> 'Gio'.</p>
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						<p><q>We still have remnants of such thinking in policy that only lets disabled adults who are in supported living, home for a few days a year. The provider needs them on site to get payment from the MoH</q></p><p>Such warehousing is pretty much the same sub-standard management mentality as measuring…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						<p><q>tee-worthy</q><br />Who drinks tea?<br /><q>Two, actually.</q><br />Show off.  You can keep the Lamborghini, but. *</p><p>[Redacted]  Whatev's.  Anyone want a coffee some time?  Rumour has it mine are not too far away from a truck stop in Napoli, which has always been my life time goal.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>It's the one I've had plumbed in to the Lamborghini I'm having trouble with. </q></p><p>You keep the Lamborghini of cofee makers inside the Lamborghini of Lamborghinis? Respect.</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p><q> In the mid-60s you could have wandered in and had a look for yourself, it was pretty open.</q> </p><p>But could the residents have readily left?  From the account of the family member in the Spectrum Care book trying to get her older brother out in the 1980s was not possible.She…</p>
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						<p><q>class-traitor connoisseurs of fine coffee</q></p><p>tee-worthy</p>
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						<p><q>Institutionalisation of disabled people was all done in the name of policy and with the best of intentions.</q></p><p>they did the same thing with drug-addicted people in the late 60s and 70s as well. they just didn't know how to handle them.</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>my La Marzocco Linea</q></p><p><q>Do you really have one?</q></p><p>Two, actually. One has it's own dedicated room in my palatial Devonport mansion. Three butlers and two cooks later, I'm managing to get an at least tolerably drinkable cup of coffee out of that one (can't get the staff these days).…</p>
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						<p><q>Hey, is it OK if I didn't have any particular views on the Springbok Tour at the time.  I am so ashamed of my nine year-old lack of socio-political consciousness. :)</q></p><p>That's ok in my book. Reading these memoirs above just made me realise, I had just spent another day…</p>
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						<p><q>One thing I'm certain of, the importance of personality over so-called intellect can't be underestimated. It's absolutely vital for everyone to have the chance to be themselves.</q></p><p>HEAR HEAR!</p>
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						<p><q>Bloody right too :)</q></p><p>Okay, now you’re just taunting me deliberately :-D</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDNJYB5JBCs&amp;NR=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDNJYB5JBCs&amp;NR=1</a></p>
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				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
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						My memories of 1981 are all about starting school &ndash; walking down the hill, crossing the train tracks, then around to Tawa school. The Tour I became aware of later as something in the past that people preferred not to talk about, and when they did, it was always rather…
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						<p><q>If you have read this far thanks for taking the time, apologies if you are bored shitless, and all the best we all need it.</q></p><p>It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. Thanks for your recollection.</p>
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						Apparently it's about protecting struggling artistes not multinational corporates, you know.
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						<p>Brian Fallow reports <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/employment/news/article.cfm?c_id=11&amp;objectid=10742568" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">latest wage stats</a>.</p><p><q>Wage and salary earners' incomes only outstripped inflation in the past year because they worked longer hours, figures released yesterday show.<br />...</p><p>So in real or inflation-adjusted terms average hourly earnings fell 0.2 per cent and households' labour income only rose because of a 1.6…</q></p>
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						<p>And if footage of it was played three times on TVNZ without such a fee being duly and correctly paid, then APRA would have the station pulled from the airwaves.</p><p>Bloody right too :)</p>
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						These days someone would ping the protesters for performing rights fees
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						<p><q>Institutionalisation of disabled people was all done in the name of policy and with the best of intentions.</q></p><p>Cold Comfort indeed.<br />Sorry Hillary its pure coincidence. Your essay up thread was excellent tho.<br />And I just wanted to say how much the stories in the thread are beautifully thoughtful.<br />And…</p>
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						<q>Will was one of the leaders of the Patu Squad that day and was arrested shortly afterwards. It was the intervention of Desmond Tutu &ndash; who appeared as a witness &ndash; that saved him from what was likely to be a severe sentence.</q> And these things don't just happen by…
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						Right you are, Sacha, but the whole work was being sung at the time.
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						<p>Maybe, rules change,<br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/boards-and-governance/news/article.cfm?c_id=133&amp;objectid=10742104" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/boards-and-governance/news/article.cfm?c_id=133&amp;objectid=10742104</a></p>
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						It's hard to maintain any policy without electoral support (however ill-informed it might be).
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						AFAIK it is they who swear allegiance to the Queen, not us. Though as Maori were often forced to in the past, Tuhoi springs to mind.
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						<p><q>Their allegiance lies elsewhere</q></p><p>The public or the pollies?</p>
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						<p><q>I'm not sure what era you are talking about . . .</q><br /> I left at the end of 1965. My father worked there until his retirement in about 1978. My memories are from the 50s and 60s. <br /><q> Have you read the deinstitutionalisation study by the Donald Beasley Institute. Different perspectives…</q></p>
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						Their allegiance lies elsewhere.
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						<p><q>We have one of the most punishing and cynically uncaring systems in the developed world, when it comes to access to services.</q></p><p>Interesting how easily our politicians can encourage a punitive response from the public that some things are a "lifestyle choice" and that the system's default setting should therefore…</p>
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						<p><q>Don McGlashan was standing across the road and the crowd were seemingly unaware of the writer.</q></p><p>Ahem. He composed the music but Richard von Sturmer wrote <a href="http://folksong.org.nz/no_depression_in_NZ/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the famous lyrics</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>Were you for, or against?</q></p><p>I was approx. -1 at the time. But I remember as a teenager once borrowing my Dad's old oilskin jacket and asking "Where did this paint stain come from?", to be told "Oh, that's whitewash which was thrown on us when we protested against the…</p>
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						<p><q>a borderline Aspergian</q></p><p>oh go on, commit :)</p>
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						Thanks, Joe, for that perspective.Kimberley is now a huge abandoned site about a kilometre long just past the State Highway One turnoff to Shannon.  I'm not sure what era you are talking about but the growth era of our 'mental deficiency colonies' came after the 1953 Aitken report which recommended…
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						Please let this be the only time I am 'like John Key' as I can't recall just what I felt about the tour.  I was in my mid-20's, quite keen on rugby and pretty gung-ho about ending racism, but the clincher is that I was working in a bar in…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>And everyone but John Key can remember the answer.</q></p><p>Hey, is it OK if I didn't have any particular views on the Springbok Tour at the time.  I am so ashamed of my nine year-old lack of socio-political consciousness. :)</p>
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						<p><q>Thanks Joe, for a glimpse of the past and a timely reminder. The vanity of assuming we are the first peoples with good intentions (however, ahem, poorly carried out) is blinding as well as self-serving. </q></p><p>We have one of the most punishing and cynically uncaring systems in the developed world,…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>While there are some great support systems in place, the future doesn’t look rosy just at the moment. Could be worse, of course, but certainly not something to get smug about in NZ.</q><br />All the best with that Rob. While it was what my folks did that put me into…</p>
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						BTW &ndash; one of the more surreal parts of moving back to NZ almost 25 years later was having my kids being taught "the Tour" as history ("what did you do during the tour Daddy?")
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						So my random memory of the Eden Park protest. I was a student living in a flat across the gully from Eden Park. On weekends I would walk across Bond St to the bakery and buy doughnuts to bring back to the flat for breakfast. At the time I was…
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						My memory of that third test is really quite vague and a bit confused but I have a strong memory (which is not surprising) of a whole bunch of people singing loudly There is No Depression in NZ. Don McGlashan was standing across the road and the crowd were seemingly…
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						<p>I was 22 I think when it happened, for me it was one of those coming of age things &ndash; over the months before the cops had gotten very aggressive and in people's faces, they'd been touring the Dunedin Uni pubs with their new shiny phallic batons carefully displayed.</p><p>I…</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Thanks Joe, for a glimpse of the past and a timely reminder. The vanity of assuming we are the first peoples with good intentions (however, ahem, poorly carried out) is blinding as well as self-serving. <br />My own experience, as parent of a child with Down syndrome as well as ASD,…</p>
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						<p><q> After that, my memory fades, and I don't remember what happened but I do remember it was a dreadful time in NZ's history. Where relationships were destroyed, where any conversation boiled down to one thing. Were you for, or against?</q></p><p>And everyone but John Key can remember the answer.</p>
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						I was 17, and what I most remember about the march I went on (the Auckland one &ndash; we started from Fowlds Park)  is the extreme opposition of my father, who was overseas at the time. He was pretty shitty that 3 of his 5 daughters, and my Mum, were…
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						<p><q>As they say, just sayin’.</q></p><p>And thank you for doing so.  Seems a different kind of 'P.A. Story' is coming out in this thread.  FWIW, it's the compassion and empathy inherent in this place that keeps me coming back.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukfIC5wMz38" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukfIC5wMz38</a></p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>What about the subversion of New Zealand’s parliamentary system by the both the National and Labour parties refusing to participate in election leaders’ debates with the other parties?</q></p><p>Our democracy is just fine, Hebe, since we're still going to have free, fair and credible elections regardless.  And, honestly, I find…</p>
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						And I can safely attest from past experience that expensive &ndash; and Socially Darwinistic &ndash; preppy colleges are <em>not</em> the right environment for a borderline Aspergian. I got such a hard time that I nearly flunked 7th Form, and a common response at the time was, "you shouldn't take it…
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						<p><q>we've chosen the narrative that tends to flatter our own vanity</q></p><p>Quite. The alternatives can be a tad <a href="http://www.phanza.org.nz/content/gene-dreaming-new-zealanders-and-eugenics" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">uncomfortable</a>.</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<q>There was a ghetto of disabled people at Levin for many decades &ndash; up to 800 at its height in the early 1970s from small children upwards. It was called the Kimberley Hospital later Centre and it took until 2006 to close it. I drive past it often and think…</q>
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						I bow to your evidence, sir.
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				<title>Richard Grevers</title>
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						<p>It's not doing a very good job so far. According to the Ministry of Economic Development's modelling, in a high exchange rate scenario we should be paying $1.75 a litre this year. <a href="http://oilshockhorrorprobe.blogspot.com/2011/06/new-zealand-governments-oil-price.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The model is badly broken</a></p><p>Oh &ndash; : <a href="http://oilshockhorrorprobe.blogspot.com/2011/07/even-more-pain-at-pump-this-year.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">my reference for the predicted spike</a></p>
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						<p><q>Robert Martin</q></p><p>An amazing man and forever the first intellectually-impaired person to address the United Nations.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POpdKQ6tv_E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POpdKQ6tv_E</a></p>
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						<p><q>if the predicted late 2011 oil price spike and associated recession hits pre-election</q></p><p>You reckon the big pre-borrowing by govt wasn't timed around the election cycle? High currency suppresses imported oil prices nicely.</p>
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						<p><q>There was a ghetto of disabled people at Levin for many decades</q></p><p>Sshh. You weren't meant to make the connection.</p>
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						It will be interesting to see what happens if the predicted late 2011 oil price spike and associated recession hits pre-election. Since our starting point is not far below current record prices, we could see $2.40 &ndash; $2.50 at the pump &ndash; and that could whack GDP by about 10%.
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						Careful Sacha. There was a ghetto of disabled people at Levin for many decades &ndash; up to 800 at its height in the early 1970s from small children upwards. It was called the Kimberley Hospital later Centre and it took until 2006 to close it. I drive past it often…
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						Very true, if we're going to successfully relocate all the disabled folk to Levin yet preserve their excellent access to responsive govt decision-makers. And to think some would call it a ghetto.
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						<p><q>If we reclassified disability services as motorways or business slush funds, who knows?</q></p><p>Like I always say, our main shortcoming is that we are not able to get people from Wellington to Levin 23 minutes faster. We need to seriously work on that.</p>
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						Probably another outcome of the tussle between English, Joyce, McCully and other Cabinet players. If we reclassified disability services as motorways or business slush funds, who knows?
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						<p>Dear old Bill made strong, sincere commitments to the humanities sector as well, while in opposition. </p><p>One almost laughs now.</p>
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						<p><q>What I struggle to get past is the great and apparently sincere speech that BIll English gave at the launch of David Cohen’s book about his autistic son, back when English was in Opposition. In government: not so much.</q></p><p>Did he realise that these services cost money? Real money? Or…</p>
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						<p><q>For a while now, I've felt that TourismNZ really isn't making enough of the reputation of Kiwi women...</q></p><p>I'm not sure that would go so well with the 100% Pure brand we're spinning overseas.</p>
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						<p><q>If you have read this far thanks for taking the time, apologies if you are bored shitless, and all the best we all need it.</q></p><p>At its best, this place is about people telling their experience. Your comment just there was one of those times. Thanks.</p>
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						Cripes.
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						<p>Mr Washy was always on his side.</p><p>A broad issue like social justice doesn't register with him.</p>
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						<p><q>people were clear about what side you were on</q></p><p>Unless they were an aspiring money trader who now has a convenient lapse of memory</p>
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						<p><q>It is surreal that out breaks of measles and other diseases are becoming prevalent</q></p><p>more surreal considering that it's entirely preventable. immunisation for measles is almost free. we've been working on immunisation at work, the range of people who don't get their kids immunised is <strong>very</strong> broad. they're not all…</p>
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						<p>The Springbok Tour Protest &ndash; Eden Park &ndash; The Third test &ndash; I went along to protest with a friend, I caught the bus from Mt Eden to Titirangi, met my friend at his mothers and drove to Morningside.  </p><p>On the way in we stopped at another friend’s place, he…</p>
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						<p><q> It gets up my goat that others pick up our great ideas and we then dump on the shakers and movers and then totally ignore it. And nail it’s death by removing funding.</q></p><p>What I struggle to get past is the great and apparently sincere speech that BIll English gave…</p>
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						Ross, thanks for telling me that the Guideline get a mention in the WHO disability report. I had a quick read of that the other day but it was a such a big file I only printed off the summary to read later. I noted that they had included NZ…
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						The <a href="http://www.asdguideline.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ASD Guideline</a> site for practitioners and the <a href="http://www.moh.govt.nz/moh.nsf/indexmh/nz-asd-guideline-apr08" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">MoH page</a> to download the full document.
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						<p><q>the WHO was at least referencing NZ material. Maybe that might make "powers that be" sit up a wee bit</q></p><p>We are acknowledged world leaders in some of the policy. This seems to have little impact on the motivation of governments of either stripe to match that with adequate resources…</p>
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						<p>Thanks Hilary. I will have to read them now. :-)</p><p>However, I think I was pointing out the WHO was at least referencing NZ material. Maybe that might make "powers that be" sit up a wee bit and mayber get round to implementing meaningful and activated guidelines. If the rest…</p>
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						The NZ ASD Guideline contains over 300 recommendations graded according to international guideline methodology.So yes as evidence-based as you can get which is not really that helpful as there is no real research evidence base yet for many of the services and supports required. Many just graded as good practice…
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						<p><q>a bit of editorialising, surely?</q></p><p>Oh yes. But interestingly, both the Herald and Stuff managed to quite independently get the words "sex romp" into their headlines.</p>
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						<p><q>I hate english.</q></p><p>Your following sentence was clearer than trying to use one word instead.</p>
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						<p><q>Were these guidleines themselves based on "evidence". Whether they are being adopted or followed is another story</q></p><p>As Gio says, the answers are respectively 'yes' and 'not really'. Implementation needs resources and funding.</p><p>Autism NZ <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10739317" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">recently closed</a> their Waikato support services due to lack of funding.</p><p>But it's OK &ndash; [[http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/minister-congratulates-autism-new-zealand/5/96759|charity…</p>
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						<p>The money spent on Key appearing on Letterman is OK.</p><p>People will vote for Key because he has been on Letterman, and people won't vote for Goff because he hasn't (been on Letterman).</p>
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						The Guidelines are thoughtful and well researched. (Focussing too much on whether something is "evidence based" can be something of a red herring. If you haven't structured your research to look for the right things, your results aren't likely to be useful, even if they are strictly speaking 'correct' in…
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						<p>I hate english. Were these guidleines themselves based on "evidence". Whether they are being adopted or followed is another story I would have thought. So maybe my comment should have read:</p><p>"Haven't read these so can't comment but certain some of PA will on (how good, correct, right, based on…</p>
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						<p><q>What's the stature of limitations on perversion of justice in the face of a clear admission by Meurant that he did so?</q></p><p>As far as I can make out there is no statute of limitations on any criminal act in this country. There are, however, cases that the police do…</p>
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						truthful about what, though?
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						<p><em>Or why the voting public appears somewhat to like the Labour Party's policy &mdash; and to freakin' hate the idea of further asset sales &mdash; but will nonethless be voting for that nice Mr Key later this year.</em></p><p>I think 2011 is a lost cause, Jonkey hasn't pissed off enough…</p>
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						<p>I'll go with: "habitual observance of truth; truthfulness"</p><p>Edit; Giovanni. That is what I hoped.</p>
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						<p><q>Haven't read these so can't comment but certain some of PA will on the veracity of these guidleines</q></p><p>The guidelines themselves are pretty solid, they just don't appear to have any bearing on the delivery of services to people on the spectrum. Is that what you meant?</p>
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						what do you mean by "veracity"?
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						<p><q> a "sex romp" on a yacht. Crikey.</q><br />+@emma</p><p>a bit of editorialising, surely? </p><p>you'd need to be up on the vanity to break it. boats are small. so... the issue might not her having been "up for it" or "hot to trot" so much as in possession of the typical-sized…</p>
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						<p><q>What's the stature of limitations on perversion of justice in the face of a clear admission by Meurant that he did so?</q></p><p>Vanishingly short, I'd have thought.</p>
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						<p>From George &ndash; first poster &ndash;</p><blockquote><p>Perhaps not. Let’s frame that as a question: what role should evidence have in policy-making – none, or very little?</p></blockquote><p>Apparently, some. Judging from this mention in the WHO Report on Disabilites recently published and picked up from Grant Jacobs posting on [[http://sciblogs.co.nz/code-for-life/2011/08/02/world-report-on-disability/ |…</p>
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						<p><q>Does anyone have any advice?</p><p>Always walk on the road edge of busy pavements and wash your hands regularly when removing laterals from tomato plants. ;-)</q></p><p>Lefty Loosey &ndash; Righty Tighty</p><p>Only put a pea sized blob of toothpaste on your toothbrush. Any more is wasteful.</p><p>Never ever put your…</p>
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						<p><q>What real value is served today</q></p><p>What's the stature of limitations on perversion of justice in the face of a clear admission by Meurant that he did so?</p>
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						<p><q> she'd all but severed her hand when a basin broke during a "sex romp" on a yacht.</q></p><p>For a while now, I've felt that TourismNZ really isn't making enough of the reputation of Kiwi women...</p>
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