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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<blockquote>I think I also struggle a little bit with the detailed sourcing thing, because it's not something you do in journalism (I did no university study either). To me, a nicely written article with lots of external links is more useful than a piece of crap that's been sourced up…</blockquote>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Wikipedia has its strengths, and its weaknesses. And the weakness is that anyone with an agenda, if they work hard enough, and play within the rules, has a reasonable chance of compromising the content of the project to fit their particular worldview. Several articles I've edited have been taken over…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:36:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ahh &ndash; so that makes some sense then.</p><p>Is then the main article?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup</a></p><p>If so, that makes more sense.</p></blockquote><p>That's still not quite an article (although it is more formal). You'll see it still has "project page" at the top left. As a rule if it has a colon…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:53:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I 'm super-glad that I've been able to sit down with my kids and research stuff that is, in the scheme of things, trivial: yes, it's good that there's a place where every pokemon is named. And where porn stars have articles.</p></blockquote><p>I have to ask the obvious question... you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:34:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Aaron Dick</title>
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						<p>All this Wikipedia stuff has turned up over and over in the webcomics community...</p><p><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2004/11/a_modest_webcom.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2004/11/a_modest_webcom.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/09/a_revised_modes.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/09/a_revised_modes.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2006/04/this_is_like_a_1.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2006/04/this_is_like_a_1.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/10/on_the_other_ha_15.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/10/on_the_other_ha_15.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/11/however_the_ent.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2005/11/however_the_ent.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.websnark.com/archives/2006/10/time_for_the_ye.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.websnark.com/archives/2006/10/time_for_the_ye.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:13:02 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I didn't mean to pick out Simon, lin or gadfium for criticism, hope it didn't come across that way.</p></blockquote><p>Nope. It's turned into an interesting observation, to which others have provided context.</p><p>I'm actually dubious about pseudonyms &ndash; I think it encourages the unhelpful development of personae &ndash; but I'll…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:26:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>tim kong</title>
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						<p>Ahh &ndash; so that makes some sense then.</p><p>Is then the main article?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup</a></p><p>If so, that makes more sense.</p><p>Seems to me that the arguing of semantics and some fine splitting of hairs is causing grief.  Which is possibly inherent in something such as wikipedia.</p><p>I didn't mean to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:06:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>what I don't understand is how this wiki article does NOT get deleted</p></blockquote><p>Because it is not an "article". If you see 2 tabs to the left of "edit this page" where is says "project page". If you look at Kiwi Foo Camp you'll see that it says article. And…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:51:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>what I don't understand is how this wiki article does NOT get deleted</p></blockquote><p>Well, it eventually turns into something like this:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland_1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland_1</a></p><p>It funny that it's there on the public encyclopedia, but it's good that there are people occasionally meeting up, sharing a commitment to the public good, etc. But…</p>
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				<title>tim kong</title>
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						<p>I've never been a Wikipedia editor, so I'm happy to be schooled in the ways and means of it as a source/guardian of truth.</p><p>What's really confusing me though &ndash; after reading the AFD thread, and what is currently standing as the Foo Camp entry &ndash; and sort of understanding…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the keener WP editors often seem to be exclusionist.</p></blockquote><p>I've wondered whether this is because with the number of articles possibly increasing exponentially, it becomes harder to ensure that people notice stupid stuff being added. And believe me, there is a lot of stupid stuff added.</p><blockquote><p>I also struggle a…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>On the other hand, I guess a line has to be drawn, otherwise people will have wikipedia articles for dinner parties.</p></blockquote><p>Or Wikipedia turns into MySpace.</p><p>It's interesting that Net perople tend to be inclusionist &ndash; that is, a low bar &ndash; while the keener WP editors often seem to…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>Thanks for the They Work for You link Russell.</p><p>A couple of clicks and it took me to this gem of a speech from Peter Dunne (on the motion confirming the membership of the Security and Intelligence Committee):</p><blockquote><p>I have three very brief comments on the actual motion: firstly, United…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						There doesn't seem to be a technical reason to set a low bar for content's relevance. I mean, they must have heaps of disk space, so what's wrong with having *one* article for every company, every band, every event no matter how obscure. Issues only occur when you can't find…
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>John Key ferried that girl from McGehan Close around (which, depending on your view, was either a great human gesture or a blatant press opportunity)</p></blockquote><p>It was both. He ALMOST dug himself a big hole with that Burnside speech, but he's dug himself out of it now, bigtime.</p>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						<p>I've encountered a few overzealous Wikipedia editors in the past, including someone who was trying to claim that the Aramoana Massacre wasn't notable on the grounds that there are mass shootings in the USA and around the world every day.</p><p>My worst experience was to find myself in an edit…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 19:07:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Further to the culture point above, I think the WP culture definition of "spam" is broader (and to my mind, unreasonably so) than that of geek culture.</p><p>I think it was being called a spammer that really got Juha going. I mean, them's <em>fightin' words</em> ...</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There are some people who spend all day doing "cleaning" jobs. Going through and deleting what they consider to be irrelevant or too commercial links, and judging by their contributions, they spend an amount of time doing that sort of stuff.</p></blockquote><p>And most of it looks quite reasonable. I dunno,…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Duh, I don't know why I said "speedy deletion" throughout my comment &ndash; obviously my brain is not happy after 6 hours' sleep. I was intending to refer to the usual deletion process for non-notablilty.</p></blockquote><p>Ah. That makes a bit more sense. I don't think I would have objected at…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Rob McKinnon of the NZ version of <a href="http://theyworkforyou.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">They Work For You</a> emailed me to note an interesting example of mindless zealotry to which he was subjected.</p><p>His (non-profit, non-commercial) site offers pages for each MP which, among other things, automatically provide the Hansard of that MP's most recent speeches in…</p>
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				<title>Stafford Lumsden</title>
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						<p>Me thinks Wikipedia has also been hit with some fairly aggressive take-down notices of late. <br />While one should rely on multiple sources for research (as I tell my intermediate aged students) It's great for lists of TV series episodes, and I'm constantly referring to it to catch up on things…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>Duh, I don't know why I said "<em>speedy</em> deletion" throughout my comment &ndash; obviously my brain is not happy after 6 hours' sleep. I was intending to refer to the usual deletion process for non-notablilty.</p><p>And with that statement about the Kiwi FooCamp being an ongoing event, well, yes, it…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<p>Actually, it appears it may be OK to speedy the same thing twice "if the prior deletions were proposed or speedy deletions, although in this last case, the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy deletion criteria, may apply." (criteria for speedy deletion, g4, recreating deleted material).</p><p>On a more mundane…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I don't think even the relatively brief original text met the listed standard for speedy deletion of "patent nonsense, advertising, pure vandalism" or "utter rubbish".</p></blockquote><p>Umm, the two words preceding your quote there are "for example" : )<br />If you go to the full list of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">speedy criteria</a>, you'll…</p>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>I ended up in an argument trying to get a wikipedia article undeleted.  I didn't have anything to do with the article other than I went to wikipedia to get information only to find it once had an article on the topic but it had been deleted.</p><p>I hear the…</p>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						Shame on you for polluting Wikipedia! Don't you know it's an encyclodia, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninjas_in_Pyjamas " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> and only for really important stuff?</a>
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				<title>wendyf</title>
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						I watched the Maori TV coverage of Waitangi Day for most of the afternoon. It was great. I learned a lot about Treaty stuff that I didn't know and the information was presented in an interesting and professional way &ndash; non-hectoring. Everything looked good, the front man (sorry can't remember…
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				<title>Jason Kemp</title>
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						<p>Re: Foo camp &ndash; Speaking as a local (and also a newish Wikipedia editor-coincidentally) my view is that the event will have much wider implications for NZ as does any large "salon" of ideas. </p><p>I hope it stays and have added my comments to the discussion. </p><p>There does seem to…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I can totally see why it was put in the Speedy Deletion category, but not that it was yanked twice with no discussion. That's bloody rude.</p></blockquote><p>It was. And the fact that the hostile editor has shown no interest in the AFD discussion seems like more rudeness to me.</p><p>I…</p>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						<p>I can totally see why it was put in the Speedy Deletion category, but not that it was yanked twice with no discussion. That's bloody rude.</p><p>The reason that I can see why it's a candidate for Speedy Deletion is that there is no indication that this is an ongoing…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-an-okay-sort-of-day/?p=6901#post6901</link>
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						<blockquote><p>Like most professional writers you are protective of what you write and expect editors to be collaborators not adversaries. Unfortunately Wikipedia isn't always like that.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks. I'm still struggling to see a basis in good faith for what happened &ndash; not least because it seemed to trample on  Wikipedia's own…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:31:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Evan Yates</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-an-okay-sort-of-day/?p=6898#post6898</link>
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						Your experience with Wikipedia editors is pretty typical. There are helpful ones ("it might be better if you did it this way...") and there are prescriptive ones ("You must do it this/my way, or else..."). You just happen to have struck one of each. My advice. Don't take the edits/deletes/snarky…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:05:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Public Address</title>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 12:05:19 +1300</pubDate>
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