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				<title>WH</title>
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						One of my favourite columnists, EJ Dionne, wrote this piece about the US Culture Wars recently.  A touch optimistic perhaps, but the rise of more moderate US Christian leaders and the miserable failure that is George W. Bush may yet combine to realign US politics towards the social justice left.…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:03:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>DeepRed:</p><p>Well, bring on some scarf-wearing weirdos and we can have ourselves a merry little <em>kulturkampf</em> that would have Bismark spinning in his grave with glee. I think there are people on both the left and the right who'd quite like to play at being Pat Buchanan, but they should…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:12:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>WH:</p><blockquote><p>Good point. Obviously there is only so much that governments can do to control things that are determined by international markets (the price of dairy products, international credit crises, rising price of oil etc), but I suppose that is cold comfort for people struggling to make their mortgage repayments,…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:23:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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						<p><em>Y'know &mdash; no, really, I was &mdash; I had been wondering what Ian Wishart was up to.</em></p><p>And now you have your answer -<a href="http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2008/03/coming-soon-abs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Ian's been writing 'Absolute Power: The Helen Clark Years'</a>, an impartial, even-handed look at Clark as a woman, a leader, a high-flying politician and a satanic…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:12:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So even if Labour's overall economic record is strong, I suspect that the belt tightening in households all over the country will be making people worried. And that may undermine support for Labour.</p></blockquote><p>Good point.  Obviously there is only so much that governments can do to control things that are…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:39:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Regarding the price of food, the cost of a sufficient diet in relation to average wages is still pretty low in historical terms (even if it's blipped up a bit lately). What is expensive is living on prepared and luxury foods (which I'm as guilty of as anyone else).</p><p>Expensive…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:58:45 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Craig:</p><p>News bias can often be about story selection &ndash; it's a bit less apparent online, where you pick and choose, then in physical newsprint where you might notice pages of copy about the evils of the EU (Torygraph) or International Big Business (Grauniad).</p><p>I doubt the Telegraph would run…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:48:58 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>When a company has no hope of paying its debts and continues to operate, that's called "insolvent trading" and is illegal. If management were drawing a salary while this was happening, then that pretty much amounts to stealing (from the creditors).</p><p>That's the case whether the money was going to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:42:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I detect real nervousness about the NZ economy.</p></blockquote><p>What do you call that? An economy-dar? Econ-dar? Eco-dar wouldn't work, the greenies must have that one.</p><p>I was finally getting my gaydar more finely tuned than a thermonuclear blast, and now we've moved onto this? I'm going to be meeting people…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:23:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<blockquote><p>it is unusual that Labour is faring so poorly given their generally strong (especially economic) record.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure that their economic record <em>is</em> so strong now: I detect real nervousness about the NZ economy.  For everyone who is cock-a-hoop about houseprices coming down, there is someone who is very…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:44:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Stephen:</p><p>Again, I don't think the HoS would have given a toss if Bryers' "free-spending" ways included buying teddy bears by the gross for terminally ill kiddies.  Don't you agree?</p><p>And even if Bryers has been living an ascetic life in a garden shed, the obstinate fact remains that there…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:10:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>"Not everything "the public" (aka panty-sniffing editors) is interested in is a matter of public interest."</p><p>That's something I have often (without the panty-sniffing bit) said myself.</p><p>However, the point of the story was to stress how well-off and free-spending Bryers is. Notice that while part of the story is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:36:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In the end, my point is that can we just stop pretending that Colin Espiner [deleted] are exactly disinterested observers here?</p></blockquote><p>I don't think its in Colin Espiner's professional interest to make unsupportable assertions about the Herald's political biases.  Whatever his interests may be, he was right in this case.…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:08:37 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>In a country that has chosen to make licensed prostitution legal; what exactly is the moral difference between this and a trip to the restaurant or a few tickets to the ballet (except that the ballet would be expensive and not necessarily much fun).</p><p>As for Phare FWIW there's an…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:08:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Living the highlife while the punters' investments were turning to shit is perhaps something that the famous Mum And Dad Investor is interested in.</p></blockquote><p>Repeat after me, Stephen: Not everything "the public" (aka panty-sniffing editors) is interested in is a matter of public interest.  Personally, if most of my retirement…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:19:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I dunno, Craig. Leaving the morality of prostitution to one side, isn't it relevant and interesting that a senior officer of a company in serious, serious trouble was spending up large on *cough* entertainment on a regular basis?</p></blockquote><p>No, it's neither relevant or interesting. People are entitled to a private…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:23:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p>I dunno, Craig. Leaving the morality of prostitution to one side, isn't it relevant and interesting that a senior officer of a company in serious, serious trouble was spending up large on *cough* entertainment on a regular basis?</p><p>The restaurant analogy is a good choice of analogy to think about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:51:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fair enough mulit-millionaire holds a private function at HQ while his business goes under. New worthy if salacious.</p></blockquote><p>Um, I even wonder how 'news worthy' the story was.   </p><p>If Bryers regularly booked out Prego, White or The French Cafe &mdash; fashionable restaurants where you could run up a low five…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:01:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>Just squizzed through the headlines online and Jane Phare really should write for Investigate.</p><p>Fair enough mulit-millionaire holds a private function at HQ while his business goes under. New worthy if salacious.  </p><p>But to harass one poor lass over at least two weeks &amp; that she may or may not have…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:51:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Media need conflict in order to survive &ndash; or think they do, which amounts to the same thing. "All news good, country optimistic" doesn't sell.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, of course it does.  </p><p>But here's a marginally more radical notion &mdash; perhaps we need fewer Judy Bailey wannabes telling us how to feel,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:30:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She openly acknowledged that many in the political media want a change of government, not because they are right-wing, not because they hate Clark, not because they are in love with Key, but &ndash; get this &ndash; just because they are bored.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah. I only caught part of it, but…</p>
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				<title>daleaway</title>
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						<p>I agree, Simon and Jackie.</p><p>Media need conflict in order to survive &ndash; or think they do, which amounts to the same thing. "All news good, country optimistic" doesn't sell.</p><p>The voting public wants nothing more than a change of scenery and someone new to fling invective at. </p><p>There doesn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:39:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would suggest that we've had a few changes of government just because the national electorate was bored. So I guess one shouldn't blame the media if they use the same excuse. At least Harvey was honest about it.</p></blockquote><p>which I think was my point a few weeks back...coming back…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:19:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, yes, Fran was in particularly fine cock-sucking form today. Not.</p></blockquote><p>I was thinking of John Armstrong.  Fran O'Sullivan was in sports-commentator mode.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>She openly acknowledged that many in the political media want a change of government, not because they are right-wing, not because they hate Clark, not because they are in love with Key, but &ndash; get this &ndash; just because they are bored.</blockquote> I would suggest that we've had a few…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:43:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>She openly acknowledged that many in the political media want a change of government, not because they are right-wing, not because they hate Clark, not because they are in love with Key, but &ndash; get this &ndash; just because they are bored.</p></blockquote><p>Um... I'm going to have to listen to…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Mediawatch (Radio NZ) have just had a very revealing interview with Clare Harvey, ex-Herald journo. (It's broadcast again at 10 pm today, and presumably on their website).</p><p>She openly acknowledged that many in the political media want a change of government, not because they are right-wing, not because they hate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:06:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Coming from the UK, I'm used to newspapers having a political position: the Telegraph is right-wing Tory, the Guardian is left-wing Labour and so on. But they have *eight* major national dailies, so you can more or less pick one that matches your political orientation and literacy level.</p></blockquote><p>Well, I…</p>
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						<p>Coming from the UK, I'm used to newspapers having a political position: the Telegraph is right-wing Tory, the Guardian is left-wing Labour and so on. But they have *eight* major national dailies, so you can more or less pick one that matches your political orientation and literacy level.</p><p>I think…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>ironic, since I write spam filters</p></blockquote><p>Interesting. I used to work at Marshall, though I wasn't the guy who did the constant incremental refinement on the spam filter.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No journalist likes that kind of thing, and I suspect there are a few on the Herald staff feeling quite unhappy about it.</p></blockquote><p>And I don't think many journalists like having their reputations being dragged into PR bitch-fights (and I think we've seen both Three and TVNZ confusing PR spin…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote>I've linked before to the remarkable YouTube work of Amanda Baggs, a non-verbal autist, but Wired's story on her is occasion to do so again. Her In My Language video offers a profound truth about difference. If you haven't seen it before, take eight minutes and 35 seconds minutes and…</blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:57:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hell, today we have Herald columnists using their columns to advise John Key how to lie to the public..</p></blockquote><p>Oh, yes, Fran was in particularly fine cock-sucking form today. Not.</p><blockquote><p>If I am understanding him correctly, Colin Espiner asserted that the paper has both a conservative tilt and a conservative…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:28:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						<p>Hell, today we have Herald columnists using their columns to advise John Key how to lie to the public.  </p><p>What happened to the media and journalists holding power to account?</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:43:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>WH</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If The Herald does have a bias, it doesn't seem to be political in nature</p></blockquote><p>If I am understanding him correctly, Colin Espiner asserted that the paper has both a conservative tilt and a conservative agenda (ie, it is actively promoting the election of a National Government).  I share that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:05:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I won't concede however that the Herald's activities are without bias and depending on your ideology, without menace in the political domain.</p></blockquote><p>I certainly hope you won't. Just as I don't think Colin &mdash; who I have a lot od respect for, BTW &mdash; is exactly a disinterested by-stander, or…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:54:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Lesbian FemiNazis Go on Cocaine-Fueled Legislative Rampage, Further Undermining The Family, Traditional Values, Christianity and All That Is Sacred</p></blockquote><p>The Windsors are actually anthrophagic lizards.  Wishart is boring. We really need <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">David Icke</a>.</p><p>And now for something completely different.</p><blockquote><p>And surprise, surprise, the computer starts discovering extremely powerful spam features…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:57:47 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Craig &ndash;</p><p>I reckon you do have a right to be concerned when Cullen seems to be doing a winstard.  I guess the kind phrase is disappointing.  I won't concede however that the Herald's activities are without  bias and depending on your ideology, without menace in the political domain.  To…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:42:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Or do we have a sliding scale of ethics for politicians now?</p></blockquote><p>You must be new around here.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I feel very confident indeed in saying that had the shoe been on the other foot, DPF and his readers would be going absolutely fscking mental right about now.</p></blockquote><p>Sure, and I think we've both tired and failed to  have a fact-based, civil exchange with the likes of D4J or…</p>
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				<title>InternationalObserver</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And with all due disrespect to Colin, he gets rather spiky when accused of being the tame bitch of either National or Labour</p></blockquote><p>Tame Bitch? Isn't that Tame Iti's drag name?<br />:)</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote>It seems to me that Colin made a rather dopey assertion (and one often repeated around here) that DPF &ndash; and The Herald itself &mdash; were perfectly entitled to respond to. Then again, I don't really see the point of trying to rationally engage with people in the grip of…</blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>I would have thought a more accurate analysis of the Herald's editorial stance would include the selection, position and prominence of stories as well as editorials.</p></blockquote><p>I suspect that the most interesting analysis of the editorials themselves would be of their <em>language</em>. But I'm not about to blow my weekend…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:55:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tim Darlington</title>
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						<p><em>Oh, great shout out to Foisemaster too! My brother Tim mangled guitar for them for a few years.</em>_</p><p>It should also be said, the talentless git most improved the band by leaving it.  Awesome hideous noise merchants they were.</p>
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						<p>I can only hope that the Herald is able to apply such diligence to all matters in need of clarification.  I will in due course be contacting them to see if they will correct some pretty shoddy reporting regarding one of my clients.....</p><p>Craig: This is about the Herald not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:02:25 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>It seems to me that Colin made a rather dopey assertion (and one often repeated around here) that DPF &ndash; and The Herald itself &mdash; were perfectly entitled to respond to. Then again, I don't really see the point of trying to rationally engage with people in the grip of…</blockquote>
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						<p>Gosh Craig, you claim to not be privvy to the National party lines sheet, and yet you have the "they must be conspiracists" line down pat.<br />APN: Always Promote National.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh man, Robbery is not going to like this...</p></blockquote><p>peter made a funny.<br />as a consumer, I love it, but I'd be more excited if dentists started giving away free fillings, Ive got a third from the back that's been annoying me lately.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:29:29 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You will also notice DPF collecting stats for "media bias". Now there's an old canard about to rear its ugly head</p></blockquote><p>And on a second read, you either totally misread the comment or (again) are just making shit up.</p><p>Here's what DPF actually wrote.</p><blockquote><p>Colin you said:</p><p>“That’d be the…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:04:13 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I prefer to think of them as Kraftwerk crossed with the B52s.</p></blockquote><p>Jeez, steady on Russell &ndash; they're good, but not quite as good as that makes them sound.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Craig, that would be news if RNZ offered a retraction, sorry, correction. People are always contacting media organisations to offer "clarification" and further comment.</p></blockquote><p>No, Don, it's news because shareholding ministers in state-owned broadcasters don't ring the <em>chief executive</em> to bitch about interviews they don't like. Radio New Zealand and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:36:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You will also notice DPF collecting stats for "media bias". Now there's an old canard about to rear its ugly head</p></blockquote><p>Mr. Pot, let me introduce you to Ms. Kettle you have so much in common.  And with all due disrespect to Colin, he gets rather spiky when accused of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:23:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Chris Bell</title>
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						Ha, ha. This is going to seem like self-promotion, but Wishart's 'Colombians bump into Lennon in Hell' story rather puts me in mind of <a href="http://www.chrisbell.co.nz/detox/bumper" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">something else</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:39:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Colin Espinar makes this comment to DPF over on <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/politics/2008/03/06/why-is-bay-report-apologising-to-john-key/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">his blog:</a></p><blockquote><p>You’re not honestly going to argue with me that the Herald openly supports the election of a National government? Even its own reporters accept this is management’s position.</p></blockquote><p>That's a pretty big call.</p><p>You will also notice DPF collecting…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:17:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but nobody is entitled to their own facts."</p></blockquote><p>Inspector Hound?</p>
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				<title>Don Christie</title>
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						<p>Craig, that would be news if RNZ offered a retraction, sorry, correction. People are always contacting media organisations to offer "clarification" and further comment. </p><p>This has been very different. First the local paper stands by its journalist and story through thick and thin and then, all of a sudden, APN…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:54 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And, given that no one is saying the transcript is actually wrong, an apparently superfluous one. Personally, I'd love to know exactly who has been saying what to whom …</p></blockquote><p>Personally, I'd love to know who told Cullen that "Key had tried to bully the newspaper into sacking the reporter"…</p>
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						<blockquote>To a greater or lesser degree, people on the spectrum lack the (as Kathy Sierra put it at Webstock) "spam filter" the rest of us take for granted. They experience everything with the same degree of intensity, at the same "volume". This is one of the biggest problems for AS…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:27:19 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Hmmmmm, I skim-read the post, saw <em>Ian Wishart</em> and <em>Colombians</em> and immediately his headlines popped up in my head; <br /><strong>Lesbian FemiNazis Go on Cocaine-Fueled Legislative Rampage, Further Undermining The Family, Traditional Values, Christianity and All That Is Sacred</strong></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:27:02 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote>if you are in Wellington, you will be going to see the L.E.D.s at Mighty Mighty tonight, won't you? There are people in Auckland who would love to see the L.E.D.s play on a Friday night, but it's only you people in Wellington who can do this. Just go. Don't…</blockquote>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So are they like LCD Soundsystem, but with less battery life?</p></blockquote><p>I prefer to think of them as Kraftwerk crossed with the B52s.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...you will be going to see the L.E.D.s at Mighty Mighty tonight...</p></blockquote><p>So are they like LCD Soundsystem, but with less battery life?</p>
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						<p>Ian:</p><blockquote><p>I have watched and been absorbed by the video "My Language" and been blown away. Given that she was writing her own explanation of her thinking, it would suggest an extraordinary wealth of ideas which are presumably locked up in many autistic people. How frustrating! Do autistic people hear…</p></blockquote>
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						That Baggs vid is amazing. She asks a hard question in "How many of you believe that I actually wrote this?". Being honest with myself, I find it hard to believe for exactly the reasons she says, that the non-language communicating autists have clouded my judgment. But then again, I…
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						<p>Funny about the American love for Canada. It must be newfound, because I distinctly recall widespread American dislike for Canada around 2001-04.</p><p>Factors that helped to explain this: inaccurate and irrelevant claim that 9-11 hijackers "came through Canada" (made by one H Clinton, among others) + no participation in Iraq…</p>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						I have watched and been absorbed by the video "My Language" and been blown away. Given that she was writing her own explanation of her thinking, it would suggest an extraordinary wealth of ideas which are presumably locked up in many autistic people. How frustrating! Do autistic people hear the…
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is 'punchiest' even a word?</p></blockquote><p>Yes, as in: 'Once Muhammed Ali became the <em>punchiest</em> boxer in the sport, he needed to retire or risk getting Alzheimers'.</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote>Sun Ra, Captain Beefheart, Ornette Coleman, Burning Spear, Can, Jimi Hendrix, Harry Partch, Screaming Jay Hawkins, Neil Young, Lee Perry, Jo Jones, Tom Waits, Foisemaster, Einstürzende Neubauten, Ian & Carolyn, Duke Ellington, The Who, Fela Kuti, Nick Drake, The Residents, Johnny Cash, Space Waltz, Husker Dü, John Lennon, Split Enz, Hasil…</blockquote>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyway, New Telepathics have kindly allowed me to give away a track from their new EP</p></blockquote><p>Oh man, Robbery is not going to like this...</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						The Mardi Gras is truly something worth celebrating. And yet, the Australian Federal Government will only allow so many changes, already trying to strongarm the ACT <a href="http://burningwords.net/2008/03/04/oh-fuck/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">out of legalising same-sex unions.</a>
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				<title>DexterX</title>
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						Keys is politically naïve and a spoon, his low wage comments are a Freudian slip that indicates how the economy is managed regardless of which coalition mix forms the government.  The difference between Key and Clark or Cullen is that although they hold similar positions on monetary policy (which are…
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				<title>Andrew Smith</title>
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						<p>Last week, when Russell mentioned John Key's sattement about wages, I thought I'd take a punt and email Mr Key about what was said/wasn't said. It sometimes helps to hear it from the horses mouth. I did post this reply last week, but here it is again:</p><p>My question: "a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:12:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Stop looking so smug.</p></blockquote><p>Never! You will have to cut the smugness off my cold dead face!</p>
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				<title>Rogan Polkinghorne</title>
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						<p>Wow, not only is Wishart's book too explosive to reveal any details about, it's also his 'punchiest yet'...</p><p>Is 'punchiest' even a word? Doesn't bode well for this mightiest of tomes...</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						<p>Wow. not only afrobeat. look at this eclectic list of influences on that myspace link.</p><p>Sun Ra, Captain Beefheart, Ornette Coleman, Burning Spear, Can, Jimi Hendrix, Harry Partch, Screaming Jay Hawkins, Neil Young, Lee Perry, Jo Jones, Tom Waits, Foisemaster, Einstürzende Neubauten, Ian &amp; Carolyn, Duke Ellington, The Who, Fela Kuti,…</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						That's a nice homage to Fela Kuti. Well chosen. It's interesting to hear a New Zealand group doing the afro beat thing.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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