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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>Thanks muchly for all your comments.  As I noted before, I just wanted to provide some space for these soap fans.  I think they have a case, in that I am all for passionate  fandoms of all kinds (well, James Blunt might be an exception).<br />Re the Firefly reference--we just…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If that was sf you'd get ripped to shreds, but, of course, Bourdieu etc.</p></blockquote><p>If you say so.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:20:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						no, it isn't so much the failure to be outraged as the idea that one is acting appropriately when one proposes a tax on daytime soaps etc. If that was sf you'd get ripped to shreds, but, of course, Bourdieu etc.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:12:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>i do think that the `heheh days of our lives' stuff is basically rather icky snobbery</p></blockquote><p>You know, nobody is being snobby really but sometimes I almost miss it. Somebody found my blog the other day with the search phrase "people who don't watch tv are smug and disconnected from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:03:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dyan campbell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So people who watch Days of Our Lives should be watching something more 'edifying' instead of something that they enjoy. Well, I don't accept that argument for my own tasteless (if slightly different genre-wise) TV-watching, and I don't accept it on their behalf either.</p></blockquote><p>Thank you Danielle, and all you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:00:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						i'm not in fact in favour of soaps ad infinitum, but i do think that the `heheh days of our lives' stuff is basically rather icky snobbery, and that there probably is a good case that the provision of these particular soaps is a worthwhile thing we should promote.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						The Simpsons are going to end one day and somebody is going to say to me 'watch another cartoon' and I'm going to have to punch them in the nuts but then I'll probably realise that hey, life goes on. Not for them, obviously, they're still going to need some…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:51:25 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>soaps are inherently long running, so it isn't fair to talk about 35 years in isolation, in comparison to <em>The Archers</em> or whatever, it isn't that long.</p><p>note also that people bitch about the cancellation of firefly or whatever all the time, and you don't tend to get the angry…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:48:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						If you were talking about Coro Street in the above paragraph I would need smelling salts after reading it. In other words: what 3410 said.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:46:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Well, Gio, most television drama is episodic and follows an ongoing narrative and has consistent characters, you know? The line between soap and drama is a bit of a fluid one.</p></blockquote><p>That's precisely my point: I am a great consumer of fictions, I don't take it as a sign that…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:41:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Because if it's not soap operas we would be dangerously under-served with just the bold and the beautiful, neighbours, shortland street and coro street on a given day.</p></blockquote><p>You're forgetting the jewel in the crown, <em>Home and Away</em>.</p><p>But seriously, to people who follow those shows, that's like saying "So…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:38:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>Well, Gio, most television drama is episodic and follows an ongoing narrative and has consistent characters, you know? The line between soap and drama is a bit of a fluid one. </p><p>Coro Street is only on twice a week, btw. (Which is an ongoing source of annoyance to me because…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:30:48 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't watch those shows myself, but if they can put on endless infomercials about Zumba ('spice up your body!'), they can sure as shit show some soaps, even if they change the time.</p></blockquote><p>Do they always have to be the same soaps until we are all dead? But that's…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:25:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Isn't that the opposite of what Geoff's correspondent is arguing? And a tad condescending?</p></blockquote><p>a) I don't think so (and would it matter if it was?)</p><p>b) I really don't think so (but I could be wrong.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:24:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd like to see somebody come here and complain about the cancellation of a show like Two and a Half Men.</p></blockquote><p>Well, me for a start!!</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:17:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>So people who watch Days of Our Lives should be watching something more 'edifying' instead of something that they enjoy. Well, I don't accept that argument for my own tasteless (if slightly different genre-wise) TV-watching, and I don't accept it on their behalf either.</p><p>I don't watch those shows myself,…</p>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In fact, I'm not averse to a tax on daytime-soap watching.</p></blockquote><p>Would it be a bit bitchy to start talking about Bourdieu here? Because I doubt if this was `TVNZ cans arts programming' people would be chortling about the sad tossers who stay up till 11:30 just to get a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:27:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Soaps act as a virtual social interaction for people who lack real social interaction.</p></blockquote><p>Isn't that the opposite of what Geoff's correspondent is arguing? And a tad condescending?</p><blockquote><p>We have to have our rugby and Two and a Half Men but it is only silly women who hanker after soap…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:18:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Yes, and I think there is a gender dimension here too.  We have to have our rugby and <em>Two and a Half Men</em> but it is only silly women who hanker after soap operas?
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p>Human beings need social interaction. It's well known that hermits, prisoners in long-term solitary confinement, etc, go nuts.</p><p>Soaps act as a <em>virtual</em> social interaction for people who lack <em>real</em>  social interaction. Thus, having these soaps canned is a big deal to these people.</p><p>It has the same effect on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:10:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						I'm concerned that the best thing that gets provided for the residents as day time entertainment is Days of our Lives. That's crappy.
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<p>Geoff, what I'm saying is that, as with most first-glance things, there are underlying issues, resolution of which would make this one fairly moot.</p><p>Access to broadband is one. When we do better in providing it &ndash; it's a necessity for us all, in my view &ndash; then <em>most</em> issues…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:05:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						How do sports fans in rest homes cope?
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I just wanted to support a bunch of fans, as I would hope they would rally to the cause if a favourite programme of mine was being taken to be shot!</p></blockquote><p>Oh well, it must be that we are close minded and ungenerous then. That's the only possible explanation!</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Hmm. I guess I was hoping for a generous and open-minded response.  So, old folks in rest homes should invest in broadband connections?   I just wanted to support a bunch of fans, as I would hope they would rally to the cause if a favourite programme of mine was being…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, bugger the old folks in rest homes, the unemployed, shift workers etc?</p></blockquote><p>Oh, come on, as if old folks, the unemployed and shift workers needed soap operas that have been going on since 1975 in order to retain their will to live. Isn't that in fact the stereotype that…</p>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So, bugger the old folks in rest homes, the unemployed, shift workers etc?</p></blockquote><p>Is Days of Our Lives really the best we can do for them? Really? Cos if that's what I've got to look forward to as an oldie then just take me to the vet &amp; have me put…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If the soaps were an important cultural touchstone for a vulnerable section of the community and unavailable through any other reasonable means I'd have a bit of sympathy. But for Days of Our Lives I'm firmly in the user pays camp.</p></blockquote><p>So, bugger the old folks in rest homes, the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:22:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>My thoughts on the early media coverage was that all of the NZ media were slow off the mark. I understand that Samoa is small and rarely a news worthy place but it plays a large part of NZs culture and one of the more important countries in the Pacific…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<p>I'm with Gio on this. </p><p>If the soaps were an important cultural touchstone for a vulnerable section of the community and unavailable through any other reasonable means I'd have a bit of sympathy. But for Days of Our Lives I'm firmly in the user pays camp. </p><p>In fact, I'm not…</p>
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						But hey, it might be a human rights issue. Somebody page Graeme. You could also try to raise awereness <a href="http://whitewhine.tumblr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>.
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						The stigma that soap opera watchers supposedly suffer from is not a cause that I'm going to spend an undue amount of energy about. Sorry.
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				<title>3410</title>
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						Like sands through the hourglass, so are the people who eventually realise that <em>CloseUp</em> is just taking the piss.
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Because it is Friday and we should all be in a generous mood, I am taking the liberty of posting the long email message below (and my response to it).  I think it is the kind of cause PA should should support irrespective of what you think about daytime soaps.…
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						I thought Media 7's tsunami piece was interesting. Adrian Stevanon telling Lisa Glass that "she should interview that guy over there because he has many interesting stories" because Adrian was unable to interview him without offending him because as a Samoan Adrian knew to do so at the time would…
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						<p>It's nice to see Russell et al at Media7 are responsible for looking after the critical journalism for Paul Henry on Breakfast. Paul can do whatever he wants because if you want to see CREDIBLE journalism you can &ndash; on TVNZ7... <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10603462&amp;pnum=3" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=10603462&amp;pnum=3</a><br />Was this part of your brief BTW? Is…</p>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						<p>I would say though that having been a regular reader of the ODT, Press, Dominion Post (and the two predecessors) and occasional Herald reader I would very much classify all of them as regional newspapers. This based on their type of stories and focus</p><p>The web presence is perhaps pushing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:29:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>TracyMac</title>
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						Getting back to gagging in the UK, it is chronic. The difference is, of course, with real "celebs", the paps catch up with them sooner or later. Name suppression works &ndash; kinda &ndash; in NZ because the culture of bottom-feeling media following around people on the off-chance hasn't really developed…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:35:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I would also agree with Kyle about the lack of South Island coverage &ndash; the Stuff/Herald sites I only find useful for national, North Island and some Christchurch issues.</p></blockquote><p>I suspect, particularly in terms of stuff, the fact that the ODT isn't a Fairfax paper probably has something to do…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:42:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						@Ben Austin &ndash; Right now the mashup is in beta. There is a limitation in the twitter API of geocoding the location of the end-user's tweets based on their location in their profile. So when the MP put down "Auckland" as a location in their profile, it is mapped in…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>The Stuff site has a dedicated <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chch Press</a> section, with gems like <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/lifestyle/2961859/What-we-re-wearing/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">street fashion</a> as seen in Cashel Mall.  </p><p>Scroll right to the bottom of the main page and you also get the respective top 5 headlines from the Dom, Press and Waikato Times whose similarities and differences are always…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:27:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						What is meant by a functioning regional newspaper? Does that include the ODT?  For all its many ills it does seem to do a reasonable job of reporting on the Dunedin area and to a lesser extent, Otago.  I would also agree with Kyle about the lack of South Island…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The Media7 panel discussion &mdash; with Lisa Owen, Adrian Stevanon (One News camera and Tangata Pasifika reporter) and Leilani Momoisea was excellent. Worth watching tomorrow night, I reckon.
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				<title>lotech</title>
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						My thoughts on the early media coverage was that all of the NZ media were slow off the mark. I understand that Samoa is small and rarely a news worthy place but it plays a large part of NZs culture and one of the more important countries in the Pacific…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It is a balancing act, for sure.</p></blockquote><p>Matthew:  Certainly, and I don't want to be unfair.  Three and CL did get it right by a gratifyingly large margin.  For once, I've got plenty of kudos to dish out to the media because there's a very fine line between reporting on…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						Fair point Craig- I was going to say that the reports got better as the week went on, and yes, the early ones swayed too close to human interest for comfort. But there were a couple near the end about the thwarted attempts at reconstruction that were really well done.…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>As an aside, I thought a lot of Campbell Live's episodes during the week really excelled- good, sober reporting,</p></blockquote><p>To be honest, I felt some of Campbell's reports rather cringe-inducing.  I know journalists aren't emotionless Cylons, but I am capable of an emotional response without presenters getting into Judy Bailey…</p>
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				<title>John Farrell</title>
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						Speaking of the harold....I'm currently in Auckland, and I've been surprised by the content of the local paper. It appears the ODT doesn't do such a bad job.....
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's visible here because we've got roughly two papers that cover the entire country &ndash; Granny and DomPost.</p></blockquote><p>Whowhat?</p><p>You mean they cover national issues right, they don't cover south island news very well from what I've seen.</p>
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				<title>Matthew Littlewood</title>
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						<p>Further to the discussion of the media's coverage Samoa Tsunami, here's a feature from a Timaru Herald co-worker writing about her <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/features/2931998/Day-of-terror" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">father's role in the rescue missions</a>. It's worth a read. </p><p>For what it's worth, on the day the actual news broke, I thought Stuff.co.nz handled it better than the…</p>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe, but they don't have anything like the number of cases where name suppression is granted because the defendant is an All Black / National MP / TV presenter</p></blockquote><p>How do you know? If even reporting the existence of the injunction can be forbidden... More seriously, do you actually follow…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:26:11 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Siu</title>
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						<p>Speaking of twitter coming of age into the mainstream media, I've done a mashup of combining tweets of NZ MPs onto a Google Map for a geography class 773 at UoA. </p><p>This <a href="http://svn.webworxshop.com/geog773demo/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">site</a> is 3 weeks worth of work using PHP and Javascripts. It uses publicly available APIs and forward-facing…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:20:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<blockquote><p>the UK court system apparently cares little for open justice.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe, but they don't have anything like the number of cases where name suppression is granted because the defendant is an All Black / National MP / TV presenter.</p>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And Keith Lockes bill to give us a referendum on whether to become a republic has been drawn from the members ballot.</p></blockquote><p>I'd hope it will get past first reading, but I'd be surprised if it passed into law.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:30:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						Twitter just added a 'report as spam' button. About time.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:21:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jeremy gray</title>
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						And Keith Lockes bill to give us a referendum on whether to become a republic has been drawn from the members ballot.
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				<title>Idiot Savant</title>
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						Meanwhile, our own Speaker thinks that <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2009/10/lockwood-smith-freedom-of-speech-for.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">freedom of speech applies to some, but not to others</a>...
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:35:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But he just fired Peggy.</p></blockquote><p>Yikes! No rumours of pregnancy?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						But he just <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/television/news/article.cfm?c_id=339&amp;objectid=10602916" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">fired Peggy</a>.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:03:28 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Well pleased to find out that Matthew Weiner,  the creator/exec producer of Mad Men , is a keynote speaker at the SPADA conference in Wellington next month.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:40:01 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						On Twitter (but I am still to return to the fold), here is an interesting piece by Henry Jenkins at MIT <a href="http://henryjenkins.org/2009/08/the_message_of_twitter.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://henryjenkins.org/2009/08/the_message_of_twitter.html</a>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:33:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<blockquote><p>amount to comtempt of parliament</p></blockquote><p>It would be most excellent if the Speaker were to call C-R's bluff and initiate contempt proceedings. That shit needs to result in a thorough beating, if only to remind lawyers that there is much precedence for Parliamentary sovereignty and that no lesser legal mind…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:09:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Matthew Poole</title>
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						<p>The UK's suppression laws are really getting beyond the point of farce. When the very existence of an injunction can be ordered to be secret, something is spectacularly wrong with the system itself.<br />I can understand it in national security cases &ndash; disagree even then, but at least understand the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:07:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And then what?</p></blockquote><p>If you've being asked to facilitate conduct that might ultimately (as some have suggested) amount to comtempt of parliament, I don't think the Law Society will take too dim a view of your refusing to act.</p>
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				<title>Mrs Skin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Arguably lawyers are also obliged to tell their client they're being a dick.</p></blockquote><p>Not just arguably. But really, a client who is allegedly prepared to dump toxic materials may just decide not take that considered advice on board. And then what?</p><p>Regardless, I think all parties have got the message…</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Carter-Ruck" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the Wikipedia bio</a>, the firm's founder was not above generating work that was not in the clients' interest. He was ousted from the firm eventually, but perhaps he set a pattern.
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						<blockquote><p>Lawyers are obliged to act in their clients' interests so I can't blame Carter Ruck for trying, but I LOVE the response they got. KA-BOOM!</p></blockquote><p>Arguably lawyers are also obliged to tell their client they're being a dick. </p><p>Given the negative publicity to Carter-Ruck's business, I'm sure they could have…</p>
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						Lawyers are obliged to act in their clients' interests so I can't blame Carter Ruck for trying, but I LOVE the response they got. KA-BOOM!
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				<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:56:38 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Looks like <a href="http://tweetvite.com/event/gagcarterruck" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the flashmob is still on</a>.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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