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				<title>Heather W.</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Any opinion on Hi5?<br />I like Kellie the most, but feel that Charli, especially, would be a tiger.</p></blockquote><p>Cast list has changed, neither is a current member of <a href="http://www.hi-5.com.au/swf/home.html " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Hi5</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:06:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Anyone else seen that live concert footage where halfway through, they do "Eagle Rock" with Captain Feathersword flying around the stage? Classic, absolutely classic.</p></blockquote><p>I have indeed.  It's on 'The Wiggly Big Show', a concept album, where they took the band in a new and exciting direction. </p><p>Although aspects of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:22:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						We bought our tickets to the Wiggles on the first day they became available.  I'm genuinely very excited about it.  I've heard that it's a really good vibe at their concerts, and any mosh pit full of preschoolers has got to be big fun.  Anyone else seen that live concert…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:40:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>I'm feeling some Ringo-love vindication right about now. Hooray.</p><p>Coincidentally, the other night we discovered and purchased <a href="http://ny-image0.etsy.com/il_fullxfull.63224280.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this poster</a>. It makes me laugh every. single. time. I look at it. If we hang it by the TV I could do myself an injury.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:17:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Spot the parent that knows more about the Wiggles than his own actual favourite bands.</p></blockquote><p>I know the syndrome well.</p><p>Did you know if you play 'Big Red Car' backwards you can hear them telling the kids to eat their brocolli?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:54:29 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>A lot of Ringo's uniqueness is due to his playing left-handed on a right-handed kit, meaning that a tom roll is led by the <em>left</em>    hand, rather than the right, which is the more orthodox way.</p><p>So a top-to-bottom (ie left-to-right) tom roll "ba-dah, ba-dah, ba-dah..." goes "L-R, L-R, L-R.."…</p>
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				<title>Mark Harris</title>
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						There's also the point that Ringo became a Beatle because he was one of the hottest drummers in Liverpool at the time, when George Martin wanted Pete Best gone because he wasn't good enough (in George's opinion).  What Starr is not is a stunning vocalist, but that's not what he…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:49:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Interesting Simon, some of that stuff is what I was partly meaning by being the RIGHT drummer &ndash; his work fitted in beautifully to the songs.  </p><p>I do know a couple of (very very good) drummers who may commit harikiri if you ever find that Bonham quote though   =)</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:45:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Check out the original track</p></blockquote><p>That original vocal demo (which I think is the same backing track as the Starr version) goes pretty well to the argument that Ringo is underated: that intro, the guitar and then the drum roll, even if you'd never heard it before, could only possibly…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:43:07 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Agree on all that Scott &ndash; Ringo was the RIGHT drummer for the Beatles, didn't make him a GREAT drummer.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringo_Starr#Drumming_ability_and_appreciation" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Others disagree</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Drummer Steve Smith said:<br />“ Before Ringo, drum stars were measured by their soloing ability and virtuosity. Ringo's popularity brought forth a new paradigm in how the public…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:09:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Any opinion on Hi5?
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I shall entertain myself, watching Captain Feathersword and Dorothy the Dinosaur. I have long held a suspicion they are more than friends, and will be looking for any signs of this.</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure about Dorothy, but the person playing Captain Feathersword has changed a couple of times. Originally it…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:03:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						<p>@3410:</p><p>cheers!</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:39:36 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>I was actualy pleasantly suprised how good Daltry and Townsend still were on stage. You'd excuse a couple of guys in their 60s if they kind of took it easy and just took the money. But they were filled with energy and played a solid set.</p><p>I'm not pretending they…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>@ Stephen W.,<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udq2mR7fr0o" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a></p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But I sort of feel they'd never live up to the albums, now. (I don't though feel the need to sneer at anyone who does go, esp. if they enjoy themselves. Each to their own. )</p></blockquote><p>Understand. I was actualy pleasantly suprised how good Daltry and Townsend still were on…</p>
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				<title>stephen walker</title>
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						<p>@3410:<br />is there anywhere else to view that Revolution out-take video?<br />it's been taken down by ewe-chooob/EMI...</p>
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						<blockquote><p>And I've always liked this solo track:</p></blockquote><p>Check out the original track:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5yzdCa2GE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5yzdCa2GE</a></p>
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				<title>Rob Hosking</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Someone (don't remember who) once quipped that Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles.</p></blockquote><p>I think that was Lennon.  </p><p>I love a lot of Ringo's drumming on Abbey Road. Esp. 'Come Together' &ndash; McCartney's bass work on that track too.</p><p>Was in a pub a while back and…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Re Tivo, very interesting. Feels like a smart play for me &ndash; it's testing the boundaries of TVNZ's "we're content, not platform" approach but makes sense to be just one player in order to make it happen.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, it's a mature platform with a strong brand and good partners.</p><blockquote><p>Question…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Gareth Ward</title>
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						<p>Missed the lovely Who discussion:</p><blockquote><p>I'm afraid I would agree with the guy next to you. Someone (don't remember who) once quipped that Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in the Beatles. And how can we ever forgive the execrable "Octopus's Garden?"<br />His son though did a great job -…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:24:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I too was struck by the resemblance of the minister to Jonkey (does anyone else hear the PM's name as one word?).</p></blockquote><p>No, just as I've never heard Helen Clark's name as "Hullen Klark" (said in an uber-butch raspy bass-baritone if you can manage it).</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The tie-in with Blockbuster for on-demand movies <a href="http://www.crn.com/retail/216300424" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">just announced in the US</a> was also part of today's TiVo NZ briefing &mdash; although they didn't actually say that Blockbuster would be delivering the movies.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:04:34 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>- A service-delivery platform via broadband &mdash; so you can order pizza from the lounge (why is it always pizza?)</p></blockquote><p>Yes. I demand a "fetch slippers and the paper" facility.</p><blockquote><p>Add-ons include a 1TB hard drive and home networking.</p></blockquote><p>Cloppity-cloppity-cloppity (the sound of an Italian thirty-something gallopping to the nearest…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><strong>Just back from TVNZ's TiVo announcement</strong>: quite impressive.</p><p>TVNZ is a one-third shareholder (with Australia's Channel Seven) in Hybrid Television, which is the exclusive licence-holder for TiVo in Australia and New Zealand. The stake cost $8 million, and TVNZ will provide about $19 million worth of advertising airtime for the…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Coleman characterised <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2290394/Why-TVNZ-wants-Tivo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">in story about</a> TVNZ's TiVo purchase plans:</p><blockquote><p>It is Broadcasting Minister Jonathan Coleman's laissez-faire approach to the portfolio and the likelihood he will curtail a fundamental review of broadcasting regulation initiated by the last government that is forcing TVNZ to consider high risk strategies.</p><p>Unless TVNZ and fellow…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						..And it was a good day. told my boss i was bored and wanted to go home, and he agreed.
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						Thanks for posting those tracks Russell, I have a feeling it's going to be a good day today. I've a hankering to weigh in on this Ringo debate, but the guy is just too good, the records speak for themselves. Very few drummers touch his 'feel'.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10563334&amp;pnum=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brian Rudman shares</a> some Charter history (without offering any solutions):</p><blockquote><p>Ten years ago, at a broadcasting symposium organised by New Zealand on Air to agonise over the parlous state of public television, broadcaster Ian Fraser &ndash; who was later to be TVNZ chief executive from 2002 to 2005 &ndash; declared that…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Ralston on <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion/bill-ralstons-media-scrum/2284669/Good-riddance-to-the-charter" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the demise of Te Charter</a>, including:</p><blockquote><p>Take, for example, the Sunday morning current affairs show Agenda. That was produced by an independent production company on contract to TVNZ using charter funding and cost around $25,600 an episode. TVNZ decided to make the show in-house itself, scrapped Agenda and…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote>I never much liked the Beatles, but I really loved their work as individuals, or in Paul's case, with Wings. Yes, I loved Wings. And how can you not give Ringo props for Thomas the Tank Engine? I could listen to that voice, all day. But my favourite one is…</blockquote>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote>Look, one day soon Paul will die, and then we will be able to forget what a giant douchey cheeseball he is </blockquote> Oh no, Danielle. Say it ain't so! It's a very strange phenomenon. I never much liked the Beatles, but I really loved their work as individuals, or in…
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>..and I was thinking, "Why not Paul instead?"</p></blockquote><p>By hokey, them's fightin' words, Dr Lealand!</p><p>Look, one day soon Paul will die, and then we will be able to forget what a giant douchey cheeseball he is (although at least *he* didn't totally abandon his first son, start over with…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I found the guy from Unitec quite impressive, myself.</p></blockquote><p>That is Peter Thompson.  He does know his stuff and was responsible for coordinating the review of the TVNZ Charter last year. The kind of academic I like, who gets engaged in public debates.   Brian Edward---hmmm?</p><blockquote><p>I remember the day Lennon…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:21:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ana Simkiss</title>
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						<p>I was at the recording, big thanks Russell, we will come again.  I too was struck by the resemblance of the minister to Jonkey (does anyone else hear the PM's name as one word?).  That's seven dollars, almost a tax cut :)</p><p>Poor old TVNZ could use a bit of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:18:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Brian Edwards and Paul Norris are considered authorities to be ignored in some circles</p></blockquote><p>I found the guy from Unitec quite impressive, myself. The Minister I guess has authority because, well, he's the Minister. I would like to understand their positions better.</p><p>But it wasn't me who raised  "authority".  I'm…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:19:05 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Dude, I would defend Ringo if I was living in a cardboard box on the street. That is, in fact, just the way I roll.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:01:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p>Has the recession hit yet?<br />People forking out to see ageing rockers, debating points of drumming ability.<br />Brian Edwards and Paul Norris are considered authorities to be ignored in some circles.</p><p>Hmm no discernable differences in behaviour. <br /> Not yet it seems.</p>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<p>I remember the day Lennon was shot. I remember thinking "God, why couldn't you have taken Ringo instead?"</p><p>Seriously tho, I'll go as far as to agree Ringo has a solid tradesmanlike drumming style. But you aint gettin' more than that from me.</p>
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						Oh. There's a 'like' missing from the last sentence of the first paragraph. I am clearly too incensed on Ringo's behalf to write properly.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:08:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Paul is clearly the best technical musician in The Beatles by a good long stretch (he's a good drummer and some of his guitar solos for the Beatles are really great &ndash; 'Taxman', that searing bit at the end of the Abbey Road medley &ndash; as well as being a…
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:05:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>1. We missed Hello Sailor, but fuck I hate Adam Duritz.</p></blockquote><p>He certainly needs to find a happy place and preferably stay there.</p><blockquote><p>6. Zac Starkey is an almighty badass. Although I got into a small debate with the guy next to me who felt the need to dis Ringo…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:47:27 +1300</pubDate>
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						Argh. Dear Zak Starkey and the ghost of John Entwistle: I am sorry for misspelling your names.
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p>I was at the Who too. Notes:</p><p>1. We missed Hello Sailor, but fuck I hate Adam Duritz. <br />2. Sad not to hear 'I Can See For Miles'.<br />3. I loved some of the films created for the backdrop. The one for 'My Generation' was particularly awesome &ndash; lots of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:39:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Craig, I was genuinely interested in your opinion about what might have prompted their disagreement with the Minister whose position I have no particular disagreement with.  Now, not so much.  Calm down.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:00:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Ah, so three broadcasting specialists don't have any authority. Strange universe you inhabit there, Craig.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, quit fucking trolling Sacha.  Believe it or not, I don't actually think Paul Norris or Brian Edwards cause solar eclipses when they clench their buttocks.  And if you really want to get into why…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:56:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						Funny that. I just finished watching the Amazing Journey DVD I bought a while back and hadn't got round to watching. Did Paladino fill Entwhistles shoes? I'd imagine it wasn't quite the same. He was a monster of a bass player.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:37:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>ScottY</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Were Hello Sailor any good, 3410?</p><p>Missed both support acts.</p></blockquote><p>I was lucky enough to catch all the acts.</p><p>Hello Sailor went down well with the crowd. They played the tunes everyone knew and loved. </p><p>The Counting Crows were alright, but the crowd felt a bit flat throughout. I'm not…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:28:01 +1300</pubDate>
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						<blockquote><p>Were Hello Sailor any good, 3410?</p></blockquote><p>Missed both support acts.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:43:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Ah, so three broadcasting specialists don't have any authority. Strange universe you inhabit there, Craig.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:30:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						Serious Rawk 'n' Roll points off for the free bus rides for anyone with a valid concert ticket. :)
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:01:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Were Hello Sailor any good, 3410?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:46:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Here's some of the 'Oo, from last night:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKiUnbTMIVI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKiUnbTMIVI</a></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duH9z-qjJiM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duH9z-qjJiM</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:06:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Way to sidestep the main question, Craig.</p></blockquote><p>Sasha: I don't take fatuous appeals to authority seriously, and don't intend to start dignifying them with a response. I was trying to be nice about it...</p>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						Sounds as though it was pretty much like I'd imagined it'd be. But hey, at least Paul Henry isn't on there.
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						To me, Q&A seemed a bit less free &ndash;  but that may have reflected the personality of its hyper new host who I found as always reminiscent of a yappy terrier. Holmes also seemed fairly biased towards the right (especially his cowardly aside about Andrew Little and the EPMU) and I…
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<p>Thanks, Sacha. Didn't see that this morning but will make sure I hunt it down when it's up on On Demand.</p><p>It's good that Key's not averse to it it, even if he and English canned pretty concrete plans for such a specific scheme made by the previous Govt. And…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						To be fair, Key did not seem abashed to be discussing the insulation scheme on Q&A this morning. Russell Norman in the panel said he didn't mind whether they called it "Green homes" or "Blue homes" or whatever, as long as it got done. We'll see.
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I, for one would rather see homes insulated as part of a stimulant package, making our homes more energy efficient would reduce home expenditure on heating and increase discretionary spending.</p></blockquote><p>But that was a Labour-Green idea, and therefore part of the nanny state Helen knows best agenda. Just like energy…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Why do you think they responded to the Minister's argument that way?</p></blockquote><p>Way to sidestep the main question, Craig.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>I, for one would rather see homes insulated as part of a stimulant package, making our homes more energy efficient would reduce home expenditure on heating and increase discretionary spending. Perhaps the power companies are against this idea, who knows?<br />This government is totally devoid of ideas other than those…</p>
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				<title>James Liddell</title>
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						<blockquote><p>can we have Paula Bennett? She is minister for, what, four ministries? I want to know what she thinks about the portfolios she runs, why she thinks it, what she sees as the future for them...</p></blockquote><p>Bennett''s only responsible for one Ministry: MSD. She has three portfolios &ndash; Social Development…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Craig, I have seldom seen such a unified reaction from three quite separate experts who did not seem to have colluded beforehand.</p></blockquote><p>*sigh*  Who needs to collude?  I'll quite cheerfully admit that I don't follow the minutiae of broadcasting policy, but if Norris or Edwards actually said anything they've not…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think Russell ran it all brilliantly and I hope he manages to get more Key clones or mavericks to front and defend their portfolio decisions.</p></blockquote><p>John Roughan of the Granny Herald would probably be the royal flush.</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Craig, I have seldom seen such a unified reaction from three quite separate experts who did not seem to have colluded beforehand. </p><p>Why do you think they responded to the Minister's argument that way?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The only way around that is to start subsidising the broadcast itself &mdash; at which point you maybe start thinking it would be better to have a public broadcaster.</p></blockquote><p>I wonder if competition is still important. It'd be nice to see TV3 competing with TVNZ to show NZ programmes. A…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's all very well for Coleman to mock "academics" (I may occasionally have done that myself) but there's a point where it becomes anti-intellectual. They need to start paying attention to data.</p></blockquote><p>*sigh*  With all due respect, Russell, there's also a point where "academics" need to start paying attention to…</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						Slightly off topic, and I guess I'm vaguely in the vanguard of new technology, but I've been really well impressed with how TVNZ OnDemand plays on a 32" LCD. If the technology eventually evolves that people can download programming cheaply when they want it easily (as opposed to having to…
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				<title>Simon Bennett</title>
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						<p>Networks (ie programmers) do change position on what is commercially viable in Primetime. This may be a response to an international trend in programme-making, or it may be that the competition has broken new ground and proven the established dogma wrong.</p><p>For some time there was no long-run hour-long local…</p>
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						I'm thinking of competition for subsidies between different distribution methods as well, not just conventional TV "channels".  I take your point that a conventional public broadcasting approach seems to be a simpler way of achieving similar outcomes, but I'm not clear what the more-market equivalent would even look like.
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						<p>Russell, are you saying that despite the presence of an apparent competitive market as Simon has suggested, in fact none of the broadcasters would decide to screen the programmes in peak hours without another subsidy? </p><p>Coleman is clearly thinking of new platforms, but to make a market-oriented approach work could…</p>
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						<blockquote>How do we get these onto Primetime? NZOA issues a call for expressions of interest in broadcasting said series. The networks then tender for the funding. A condition of funding is timeslot. I'm sure various other conditions could be applied to make sure the proposed series meets specific 'charter' objectives.…</blockquote>
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						Simon, that sounds reasonable from here. Any idea why the three panellists disagreed so vehemently?  Did it not work last time it was tried, or overseas?
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						<blockquote><p>And, to be honest, I don't think she's been acquitting herself very well when she actually does have to answer serious questions.</p></blockquote><p>Can't comment on this from distance, but I worry Bennett's a sacrificial lamb. I can't quite work out the tactic, but her Ministerial load's huge for even an…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						Just a comment about programming. Just turned on TV7 by chance a little while ago after visitors left. There happened to be screening a brilliant NZ made documentary on autism. It's a few years old (c 2003?) and I know some of the people featured have got a little older,…
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				<title>Simon Bennett</title>
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						<p>I'm not a National supporter in any shape or form, but I work in TV production, and what Jonathan Coleman was saying made quite a bit of sense to me.</p><p>Sidestepping what 'quality' programming actually is, lets use an example of a series of hour-long in-depth documentaries or current affairs…</p>
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						Not that I'm saying the current system has worked particularly well. An enjoyably spirited defense by the panel though.
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						I got the impression the Minister thinks he has some mechanism to tell TVNZ what time to screen things. Like some sort of, well, Charter perhaps.
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						I only watched half of it, sorry. Coleman was pissing me off enough &ndash; it's one thing to front but to have nothing to say when you do is futile. But when you put his vacuousness in the same room as Edwards' ego &ndash; too much for me, I'm afraid.…
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Mmmm, chewable, good for breath & teeth &ndash; I'd go there.
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				<title>Logan  O&#039;Callahan</title>
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						<p>In another case of follow thy leader, according to at least one other cabinet minister National is the gummint of New Zillun.</p><p>If only that were true.</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It's all very well for Coleman to mock "academics" (I may occasionally have done that myself) but there's a point where it becomes anti-intellectual. They need to start paying attention to data.</p></blockquote><p>Sounds like the "these guys take pride in being ignorant" level of anti-intellectual...</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7STM9Zn7ilY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7STM9Zn7ilY</a></p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Agree with Hilary--and, please, can we have Paula Bennett? She is minister for, what, four ministries? I want to know what she thinks about the portfolios she runs, why she thinks it, what she sees as the future for them...</p></blockquote><p>And, to be honest, I don't think she's been acquitting…</p>
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						sorry now = know. I need to preview.
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						Like Steve I agree with Hilary. And again like Steve I would like to now what Paula Bennett thinks. The portfolios she holds have the ability to impact upon the lives of some of the most vulnerable in our community, it would be good to get an honest account of…
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				<title>Steve Reeves</title>
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						Agree with Hilary--and, please, can we have Paula Bennett? She is minister for, what, four ministries? I want to know what she thinks about the portfolios she runs, why she thinks it, what she sees as the future for them...
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						<p>While Hard News isn't 100% perfect, it's still one of a handful of oases in an intellectual Sahara. Nonetheless I do think it can be harnessed more often as an outlet for real action, as the S92 Blackout illustrated.</p><p>The odds seem daunting in the face of an anti-intellectual tsunami.…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I think I understand a little of your frustration Tom. We seem to be being assaulted on all sides with attacks on Aotearoa/NZ as we have known it for the last few years whether it is concern for the environment, NZ's foreign aid, disability support, ACC, public services, public health,…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:40:17 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How abut those LED sheep, eh?</p></blockquote><p>Made my week.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe it says something about my interests/issues, but I'd quickly grow bored of a diet of politics, media and tech only.</p></blockquote><p>Paul Litterick wrote a nice post this year about people who blog only about politics. It'd drive me nuts, frankly. I do consciously try and mix it up, especially…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:27:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If I had a dollar for everyone who told me after the recording that Coleman reminded them of Key, I'd have ... five dollars.</p></blockquote><p>But would you give it to charity?</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But this ain't so--there are times on Hard News (and PA generally) when I am in awe of the breadth of knowledge and intelligence of analysis.</p></blockquote><p>That's frequently the case for me too Geoff. PAS, all the writers and the community of commenters, is a truly remarkable collection of voices.…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<blockquote><p>a whole lot of slightly past it, backslapping insiders who are resting on their laurels</p></blockquote><p>I am not sure what Tom wants us to be slapping instead. The thing about Hard News--and it has been quite an education for me--is that is has revealed a whole new intellectual community to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:27:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If I had a dollar for everyone who told me after the recording that Coleman reminded them of Key, I'd have ... five dollars.</p></blockquote><p>I probably won't rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure it said gummint for government, and along with some of his jibes at academics, it seemed like…</p>
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				<title>Sam F</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I recall the radio-only Hard News, it might've been different, but then I know I was too.</p></blockquote><p>Pretty much what I was thinking. Given how long Hard News has been around now I'd be worried if it <em>hadn't</em>  changed much over the time I've been following it (seven or eight…</p>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Peter's summed up my view/experience. I recall the radio-only Hard News, it might've been different, but then I know I was too. I enjoy the mix of content and the different discussions that it stimulates.
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						You'd have six dollars now, Russ....
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						Man! Looks like I missed a good show. Would have been there in person had I not had to retrieve my bike from T. White's on Symond Street, but hey, there's always next week.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Did anyone else find something about Coleman's vocal delivery a little like someone else's? I guess the sandy blond hair kind of helps as well...</p></blockquote><p>If I had a dollar for everyone who told me after the recording that Coleman reminded them of Key, I'd have ... five dollars.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe he's been watching the cricket?</p></blockquote><p>Ah! That's probably it.</p><blockquote><p>I find the personal trivia of foolish people of no interest</p></blockquote><p>Heh. I am so totally the opposite. (We're like matter and anti-matter! If we were ever in the same room, would the universe implode?)</p>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						Did anyone else find something about Coleman's vocal delivery a little like someone else's? I guess the sandy blond hair kind of helps as well...
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>If your heart is no longer in something it is better to get out and do what you are now interested in, than hang onto until Hard News becomes like a once-fine pub that has declined into decrepitude.</p></blockquote><p>Tom, I've been writing something called Hard News for nearly 18 years,…</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...Hard News has become like all those big company record executives it likes to criticise &ndash; a whole lot of slightly past it, backslapping insiders who are resting on their laurels and when criticised indignantly point to their record, not their current performance.</p></blockquote><p>Heh, I hope you feel a bit…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Jeez Tom, did we lose the Rugby World Cup again or something?</p></blockquote><p>Maybe he's been watching the cricket?</p>
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						Danielle, I have no problem with the content. It is just, (if I may digress) as I've said dozens of times on here and elsewhere, I find reality TV excruciatingly boring because I find the personal trivia of foolish people of no interest. I am not lumping Russell Brown in…
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, could you give the pissing machine back to the Kiwiblog wing-nuts for five minutes?</p></blockquote><p>? <br />Is that the pissing on or the pissing off or the piss off?</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						Jeez Tom, did we lose the Rugby World Cup again or something?
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>How about media 7 do a panel discussion:</p><p>Should "Hard News" change its name to something that ore reflects its content these days? To something like "Introspective navel gazing?"</p><p>Because it has become as dull as dishwater.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:01:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						<p>Thanks a mill Ben. My tweenie will be delighted &ndash; been saving for months. Personally, I can't bear the thought of another screen (or two) in the house but have to loosen the reins some time.<br />That is a way-funky version of RiverDeep by the way.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:07:51 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						<blockquote>But wait! There's more! If you're in Sydney this weekend &mdash; would you like to attend the final of the Women's World Cup of cricket, in which the White Ferns will surely conquer England? PA regular Paul Williams has some free tickets for his fellow readers. You'll need to email…</blockquote>
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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						<p>Luke: the DSi is available on the 2nd of April. I'm not much of a portable gamer, but it is a fun little console. I think the tweenie girl market is well catered for with the music and crazy photos.</p><p>Russell: Leo was brilliant, basically took the questions out of…</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						<blockquote><p>When did Moby start doing card tricks?</p></blockquote><p>After he read <em>The Game</em> and thought it would be a better way to pick up girls than negging or peacocking...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:42:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Russell, when is Nintendo DSi available in NZ and is it worth the wait? My daughter is dead keen for one.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:40:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						When did Moby start doing card tricks?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:29:36 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>For Friday youtubeness to mess with your head:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE</a></p><p>(<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voAntzB7EwE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">colour changing card trick</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:08:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Sorry--you only need read once.  The touchpad on our laptop has started doing weird things!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:03:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						It was a good show and an overdue debate.  Nevertheless I thought there was too much flowing around--comments drowned out, statements uncompleted--and bit too much maleness, generally.  It would have worked better with 3 people and bit more bossiness from Russell, I reckon.   But nice to see fellow academics getting…
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						It was a good show and an overdue debate.  Nevertheless I thought there was too much flowing around--comments drowned out, statements uncompleted--and bit too much maleness, generally.  It would have worked better with 3 people and bit more bossiness from Russell, I reckon.   But nice to see fellow academics getting…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Andin:</p><p>Oh, could you give the pissing machine back to the Kiwiblog wing-nuts for five minutes?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:00:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Good show , I wondered if you were tempted to get out a whip at any stage to get those unruly buggers back in line.</p></blockquote><p>I opted to sit back and just watch for a while ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:23:53 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<blockquote><p>got quite lively.</p></blockquote><p>It almost got positively noisy. A mini Daily Show almost, with the audience audibly guffawing at a ministerial clanger.</p><blockquote><p>and the minister deserves credit for opting to join the panel after the interview</p></blockquote><p>What he didnt have a ministerial car waiting to whisk him off to another…</p>
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				<title>Paul Campbell</title>
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						probably not safe for work but it is Friday &ndash; now you realol can give a <a href="http://www.thumbsupuk.com/products/Flying-F--K-Helicopter.htm?id=47&amp;subid=0&amp;prodid=529&amp;cc=" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Flying F**K</a>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:09:12 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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