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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><q>nor would I be in favour of a government monopoly where you could only get your electricity from one supplier</q></p><p>You do already, more or less.</p><p>To start with there is (and can only be) one distribution network. At any given time, there is an optimal set of power stations…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:56:33 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Clyde dame project</q><br />aaarh! But it's a Bonnie lake...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:27:30 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Once they are built, and have a proven revenue stream, like our current ones, of course plenty of people are happy to privatize those profits.</q></p><p>Gordon Campbell's latest article says the energy SOEs just had a big surge in <a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2011/11/24/gordon-campbell-financial-analysts-jump-ship-on-asset-sales/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">capital investment</a> &ndash; the profits of which will now be privatised…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:14:35 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p><q>Once they are built, and have a proven revenue stream, like our current ones, of course plenty of people are happy to privatize those profits.</q><br />There is the nub. It's about initial investment, who carries the can and who profits from it. Privatise the profit, publicise the debt. Clyde is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:53:42 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I don't believe that unfettered market capitalism is a good model, but nor would I be in favour of a government monopoly where you could only get your electricity from one supplier. </q></p><p>I'm not sure how happily the two can co-exist, given that government suppliers can leverage government support to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:43:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>And then you go and spoil it all by saying something like "and have two or three private ones for competition." thus repeating the failed mantra that the private sector and the magic beans of "competition" will make power companies "efficient".</q></p><p>I never said it made them more efficient, just…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:28:23 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hebe</title>
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						<p><q>Interesting reports about the lack of Nats talking to media.</q></p><p>It's the old campaign game of "Hide the Weasel".</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:17:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>"Interesting reports about the lack of Nats talking to media."</p><p>Never complain, never explain.<br />Henry Ford</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:58:14 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						Where's WikiLeaks when we most need it?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 00:11:10 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Caleb D&#039;Anvers</title>
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						<p><q>Completely brilliant &ndash; I've never heard that version before. Thanks for sharing! Still giggling at it.</q><br />No problem. I pretty much lost it the first time I heard it, too. And that was <em>before</em> my train commute took me through Watford Junction on a regular basis ...</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:55:46 +1300</pubDate>
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						But, uh, we don't <em>know</em>  any of this since the Ombudsman has said we can't see the documents. However she will confirm that Treasury was not asked about the 10% cap. This will be because some one just made it up at Tuesday lunchtime but Key apparently "shrugged" off any…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:43:50 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Yes, many arrangements would work.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:03:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>"Will the 21st century schools be built from the proceeds of asset sales, be built in east Porirua, and will they have espresso machines and leather armchairs in the staff room."</p><p>No, but they may have a sort of fast-ish broader bandie thingy, that we may have had for them…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:54:52 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>If 10 guys who are all mates</q></p><p>Establish 10 companies in New Zealand. Each company is a separate entity. Each company has a board of directors who happen to all be the same people. The companies have zero assets. Each company borrows money from an overseas investor to buy shares…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:53:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>What does a 10% limit mean</q></p><p>I can answer that one. It means nothing. If 10 guys who are all mates get 4.9% each, that means that 49% is owned by something that works like a single entity, no matter what the theoretical limits on individual power are. There is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:25:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Time for some finer detail. Who gets the hydro power stations? Who gets the aluminium smelter? Will we be bailing out Comalco? What does a 10% limit mean, how will it affect the share price, how he will he guarantee it, and if the Govt. will be retaining 51% will…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 13:00:59 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<a href="http://kumararepublic.blogspot.com/2011/11/mum-dad-investors.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">As approved by mum and dad investors</a>.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:51:49 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Stuff headline: <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/politics/election-2011/6023609/Goff-alleges-National-has-secret-police-plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Goff alleges National has <strong>secret police</strong> plan</a>.</p><p>Or maybe a panda eats, shoots and leaves?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:42:41 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						It's fine, JK was an investment banker, he said so last night.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:12:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>HenryB</title>
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						<p><q>But this policy is truly awful.</q></p><p>Campbell has written a follow up <a href="http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2011/11/24/gordon-campbell-financial-analysts-jump-ship-on-asset-sales/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">analysis</a> of the asset sale: it is truly worrying reading and I completely agree with you that even National, if they had not locked themselves and their credibility into this policy, would be having a serious rethink of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:12:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>I wouldn't mind some selling of our energy assets if there was some sort of national interest or business sense behind it. I find it strange that we own several energy companies &ndash; surely we should own one larger one,</q></p><p>And then you go and spoil it all by saying…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:05:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>I believe that's not true</q></p><p>I believe you'll find our various international trade agreements complicate the situation, but wasn't there a case involving minority shareholders in Air NZ?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>A shareholder, or group of shareholders, can sue the controlling shareholder for not maximising profits, thus putting more pressure on homes and business.</q></p><p>I believe that's not true &ndash; I asked that previously on here and Graeme said that wasn't the case.</p><p>I wouldn't mind some selling of our energy…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:23:37 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDiILrNbM4</a><br />Supplementary Member.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:51:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Better economy = low wages + halved mortgages – bludgers</q></p><p>+ razor wire installers + concrete wall contractors + security personnel</p>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						<p>Oops SM, the funny thing was when he would expansively spread his hands and give the...look here's how it is, speech, all fake gravitas with the...what we need, speech.<br />Neither speech type produced one single, how, speech.<br />Better economy = low wages + halved mortgages &ndash; bludgers<br />Nice math, shame…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:33:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Key Inc. does not want to work with the Greens. Johnny wants Johnny wants Donny . What an Act. Spinners. Plus he prefers S an' M. Sadist? ;)
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						<p>Gah, leaders debate thingy, how did it get to the place where a PM sounds like an investment banker who sees people as lazy work dodgers who may well be another species for all the empathy he can muster.<br />So many things, the main thing, the main difference between the…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						John Key Inc is so many types of wrong Wrong <em> WRONG! </em>
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						<p>I find the fascination about what Key and Banks talked about a diversion. Banks has been explicit on his views of democacy. He joined a party that in its manifesto says; </p><p>'Cannabis legislation is a human rights issue. ACT believes that the State should not interfere with the informed choices…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the public interest</q></p><p>now only refers to what we pay</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>And, quite frankly, do think “publish and damn the consequences” is a big part of what’s wrong with tabloid media culture in the UK?</q></p><p>ooo goody can we also have a slippery slope argument as well.</p><p>It's a frigging meeting between two politicians that was staged event from go to…</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q> The whole thing is so complex I am in awe how John has simplified it,</q><br />Johnkey understands these things, didn't he work for one of those firms behind Enron?</p><p><q>Not that I’m defending asset sales, but I don’t think they are planning on actually shipping the power stations overseas.</q>No, just…</p>
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						<p><q>by someone just hardening up and posting it</q></p><p>That would be an editor with a spine would it?</p>
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						<p><q>I'd guess not all that high a percentage of the population would actively seek out a recording or transcript hosted offshore, but it's hard to avoid if it's leading the 6.00 news or printed on the front page.</q></p><p>Yup, it's down to the big boyz or it won't happen. Which…</p>
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				<title>Rob S</title>
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						<p>Trivialising what news is by turning papers into entertainment and gossip is the main driver of the low end papers problems in the UK.<br />Withholding some genuine public interest information is only an embarassment to the Governing classes. In my opinion the insight and importance of the 'tea tapes' or…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>The logic being that each 9.99% shareholder will <br />be independent of the other shareholders</q><br />Oh! So Mom could own 9.9% but Pop would <br />only be allowed to own .1%, unless they split up<br />of course...</p>
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				<title>Terry Baucher</title>
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						<p><q>The other point that comes to mind is when are the Police going to execute their search warrants? Or is that also something that will be resolved after the weekend?</q></p><p>I stand corrected.  Good.  <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10768152" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10768152</a></p>
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						<p><q>And, quite frankly, do think “publish and damn the consequences” is a big part of what’s wrong with tabloid media culture in the UK?</q></p><p>The key word there is "tabloid" and I'd agree with you that there's a problem in the UK but that's not the issue at hand here.…</p>
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						OK Craig, just how do I publish and be damned when I don't have the tape or the transcripts?
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						<p><q>I'd guess not all that high a percentage of the population would actively seek out a recording or transcript hosted offshore</q></p><p>Interesting point, especially when you consider TV3's link to Fairfax and that the HoS has overseas owners.  I would have though it would be a simple matter for the…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Whatever happened to “publish and be damned”?</q></p><p>I've got a suggestion &ndash; the next time you want to be brave with other people's reputations and livelihoods put your money where your mouth is.  And, quite frankly, do think "publish and damn the consequences" is a big part of what's wrong…</p>
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						<p><q>Unless the quantum superposition of the privacy of the conversation collapses by someone just hardening up and posting it in its naked glory.</q></p><p>Unless one or more of the mainstream media outlets grow a pair and do exactly that, I doubt it'll make a difference.</p><p>I'd guess not all that…</p>
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						<p><q>Unless the quantum superposition of the privacy of the conversation collapses by someone just hardening up and posting it in its naked glory.</q></p><p>THis is the bit that gets me: it's a scoop in the truest sense of the term yet the HoS asks permission?  Whatever happened to "publish and…</p>
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						If it was an honest attempt by Key et al  we should have been kept up to date all the way through. Most people would accept that there would be some details that couldn't be made public but if this really is the pot of gold that we are being…
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						<p><q>What it effectively means is that any sort of resolution won't happen before Saturday</q></p><p>mission achieved</p>
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						<p><q>What it effectively means is that any sort of resolution won't happen before Saturday.</q></p><p>Unless the quantum superposition of the privacy of the conversation collapses by someone just hardening up and posting it in its naked glory.</p>
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						<p><q>the voters need to know why the sales must be enacted in order to make an informed vote</q></p><p>I agree, but those reports were likely to contain commercial detail, not overall policy 'reasoning'.</p>
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						<p><q>Parse that and stay fashionable.</q></p><p>From the Stuff article:</p><p><q>Chief High Court judge Justice Helen Winkelmann delivered her decision today saying she declined to make the declaration as it would amount to a "mini-trial" in advance of a police investigation into the matter.</q></p><p>The <em>application</em> has been declined, __but that…</p>
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						We have been well served ;-) Oh and I don't think it is a fair argument at all, the right that we the voters need to know why the sales must be enacted in order to make an informed vote, overrides the outcome of said sales, in my view. Because,…
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						<p><q>if the information got out now it could affect the amount of money gained from these assets.</q></p><p>Fair argument. Shame TVNZ waited so long before doing any story at all.</p>
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						The existence of considerable prep work for asset sales has not been a secret from the opposition. Nor the media. Just the public.
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						__The plaintiffs application, for a declaration of the discussion between the Prime Minister, the Hon, John Key, and the ACT Party candidate for Epsom, John Banks, at the Urban Cafe on the 11th November 2011 was not a "private conversation" as defined in S216A of the Crimes Act 1961, is…
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						<p>I wish it was that ;-) His not telling is not legal (I wish), is undemocratic (remember us John!) and his not taking Treasury advice, and taking private oral advice (I can smell the agenda on his breath), either the work of a fool or a charlatan...or both.</p><p>Asset sales…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>limit overseas shareholders to 10%</q></p><p>No they will limit <em>individual</em> shareholder to 10%.</p><p>The logic being that each 9.99% shareholder will be independent of the other shareholders </p><p>as opposed to being dummy companies with shared directors and the same financial backing</p><p>no that would never happen ...</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>Why would Key block the OIA request? If what I suspect is going on, this could be very, very damning.</q></p><p>"Commercial sensitivity. We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you."</p>
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						<p>Hatip No Right Turn, <a href="http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2011/11/this-is-why-we-have-oia.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2011/11/this-is-why-we-have-oia.html</a><br />Why would Key block the OIA request? If what I suspect is going on, this could be very, very damning.<br />Later, oh I see he is blocking it because it would affect the money he gets for selling if he was to tell us why…</p>
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						<p>Now with the just -made-up-this-hour policy from Key that they will limit overseas shareholders to 10%, I have to ask. What is the point of flogging them off? <br />It must be purely ideological.</p>
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						Cargo cultism in part yes, but the fact remains successive Govts chop and change their policy focus like the wind and I would like to see us having more ability to keep them steady. The political switch and bait show is way too costly both economically and socially for our…
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						<p>Now with the just -made-up-this-hour policy from Key that they will limit overseas shareholders to 10%, I have to ask. What is the point of flogging them off? <br />It must be purely ideological.</p>
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						<p><q>it’s the opposite of ambitious that local investors need corporate welfare to provide a safe investment, but proper market governance is not something any politician is offering.</q></p><p>In other words, cargo cultism as I mentioned above.</p>
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						<p>Good point, what will be the incentives for power company owners to diversify, invest in alternate power. This is where the competitive, leave it to the market ideology fails, because you know, profit doesn't need to invent it own demise.<br />Govt. must take the lead in incentivising innovation, specifically energy…</p>
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						<p><q>the real reasons why the local sharemarket is flat</q></p><p>it's the opposite of ambitious that local investors need corporate welfare to provide a safe investment, but proper market governance is not something any politician is offering.</p>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>But they can still gather dust</q></p><p>so long as it's not coal dust...</p>
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						Martin the price of power will go up a lot, of that fact I have no doubt. Oh and to scaremonger, the supply is sketchy at present (outages) I don't foresee that changing with private owners needing healthy profits before healthy lines.
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						<p><q>Not that I’m defending asset sales, but I don’t think they are planning on actually shipping the power stations overseas.</q></p><p>It would be rather difficult to do so. But they can still gather dust, as happened with Telecom when Ameritech &amp; Bell Atlantic owned it.</p>
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						<q>I don’t disagree, I am always careful with my wording, especially round Telecom whom I enjoyed a very good business relationship with. It was however an incredibly badly handled float and subsequent investment in infrastructure avoided while they played in the fields of the lord regarding investing in other areas</q>…
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						And while John & Phil bicker over asset sales, our would-be Sam Morgans typically have to beg for overseas capital because local investors won’t back them, with 1987 still fresh on their minds – again, Baker vs Straker is a case in point. And nothing replaced DFC after its fatally ill-conceived…
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Can we please stop making the same mistakes that have been made elsewhere?</q></p><p>you and your fancy evidence-based policy</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:11:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p><q>We need the power stations to keep our most vulnerable warm, simple.</q></p><p>Not that I'm defending asset sales, but I don't think they are planning on actually shipping the power stations overseas.</p>
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						I don't disagree, I am always careful with my wording, especially round Telecom whom I enjoyed a very good business relationship with. It was however an incredibly badly handled float and subsequent investment in infrastructure avoided while they played in the fields of the lord regarding investing in other areas…
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						<p><q>I still think selling Telecom was the correct thing to do. Telecommunications needed a market.</p><p>The problem was National being played for complete and utter rubes by the people who did it. They allowed themselves to be convinced that a promise to be really nice and not abuse Telecom’s overwhelming…</q></p>
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						<p><q>complete and utter rubes</q></p><p>Good description of haplessly hands-off Maurice Williamson.</p>
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						<p>When Key talked to Radio NZ's Kathryn Ryan (34 mins, <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2503244/john-key" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">listening options</a>), he discussed the energy SOEs as "underperforming" economic investments rather than as strategic infrastructure. </p><p>They're all regarded by analysts as well-managed so there won't actually be any improvement through private ownership. Except to the wealth of those who…</p>
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						<p><q>so it’s like Telecom was, a dead sitter for certain people to have shares in a Govt. guaranteed monopoly…</q></p><p>I still think selling Telecom was the correct thing to do. Telecommunications needed a market.</p><p>The problem was National being played for complete and utter rubes by the people who did…</p>
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						Very true because a decent memory would serve to highlight the debacle that is AirNZ. Even I can tell you that it is anti-competitive, needs to periodically fork out large sums of cash for new planes, AKL council have large shareholdings and in the airport so shun any thoughts of…
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						<p><q>I am in awe how John has simplified it</q></p><p>Joyce is a very good campaign manager. If only Labour had taken that more seriously for the last few years. Hoping they can pull something off this week, but polls still suggest that's unlikely.</p>
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						<p>Energy shares are what got the world, especially NZ in this mess in the first place. 1973, the so called oil crises, that has been proven to not have been. Prior to that energy stocks were not traded as a commodity.<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis</a><br />I remember the storylines in NZ as we…</p>
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						<p><q>these are the same shares you're talking about</q></p><p>One of the economic commentators (Rod Oram?) pointed out some time ago that the TradeMe float would actually be competing for the same local investors, thus depressing the value of the SOE shares.</p>
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						<p>John Key compares selling power company shares to selling TradeMe shares, yes John /Jedi mind trick on self/, these are the same shares you're talking about.<br />BTW, if they sell all the power companies people are just going to keep lining up to buy their shares, yes they are #itshowitworkstofail…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Oh, come now, what could possibly go wrong with changing from a business model that's supposed to benefit citizens, to a business model that's entirely profit driven?</p><p><q> <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/feb/24/energy-companies-profits-rise?INTCMP=SRCH" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Power companies have been accused of profiteering from the coldest winter for 30 years after a surge in corporate profits.</a></p><p>ScottishPower, which has…</q></p>
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						With our nation's future economic prospects becoming increasingly digital, selling off our energy system is pure vandalism. I guess we'll see shortly if a few weeks of opposition to that plan carries the day.
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						<p><q>If we owned massive state assets in high fashion retailing</q></p><p>Well, the government seems to consider running a bar an essential function of state.</p>
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						<p><q>It’s not that they want to sell, it’s what they want to sell.</q></p><p>That's it for me as well. There are assets a government develops (because nobody else will) that in the end can and should be managed privately. There are examples of such things all over the world. At…</p>
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						<p><q>Personally I'm happy with the government selling assets &ndash; we should be flexible and be willing to sell something that we don't need to buy something that we want. But this policy is truly awful.</q></p><p>Yes, in theory, it's doable. If we owned massive state assets in high fashion retailing,…</p>
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						<p>If you've got Maori/NAT (with/without ACT or UF) on one hand and Labour/Green on the other, then either the right or left will have a majority (or it'll be a dead tie).</p><p>It's hard to see how the Greens would go to the right, when they could form a government…</p>
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						<p><q>Personally I’m happy with the government selling assets – we should be flexible and be willing to sell something that we don’t need to buy something that we want. But this policy is truly awful.</q></p><p>It's not that they want to sell, it's what they want to sell.<br />Our power…</p>
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						<p><q>Personally I’m happy with the government selling assets – we should be flexible and be willing to sell something that we don’t need to buy something that we want. But this policy is truly awful.</q></p><p>And I’ve long been opposed to TVNZ being sold, but increasingly I’m tempted to think…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>I honestly think that the asset sales policy has been such a clunker that National would happily water it down if they had an excuse &ndash; coalition partner would provide that.</p><p>Personally I'm happy with the government selling assets &ndash; we should be flexible and be willing to sell something…</p>
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						<p><q>...some sort of agreement to abstain on confidence and supply</q></p><p>It will be interesting to watch. particularly when it comes to the sale of Solid Energy.  I doubt that the Greens see it as their most favourite state asset but would they sit by and see if being sold off…</p>
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						<p><q>No mostly at the image of them throwing a live hand grenade onto a school bus. I don’t like the comment. Being a racist doesn’t make you a child killer and you have been defending the ACT party who have Dr Don as their leader.</q></p><p>I think you've taken the…</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>You’re suggesting that there won’t be a minority government?</q><br />I have no idea Ben. Nor, I suspect, do any of the commentariat, so I’m reliant on those few who feel these things in their ‘waters’, who assure me that it’s entirely possible. <br /> <q>Would they compromise, or go for broke and…</q></p>
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						<p><q>Picking a question out of the sustained sneer</q></p><p>I actually only asked one question, and yes, it was about whether they would choose to have an early election, rather than about whether they would be forced out of government by a no-confidence vote (an interesting question in its own right).…</p>
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						You're suggesting that there won't be a minority government? I'm asking the what-if question here. Given that no majority coalition manages to form, would National really go back to the polls, or would they opt to run the country sans majority? I'm inclined to think they would, hoping that obstruction…
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Anyone have an opinion on whether National really would go to the polls again if they have to serve as a minority government, and are blocked from their neoliberal agenda?</q></p><p>Picking a question out of the sustained sneer, if any Government loses a confidence vote and is unable to pass…</p>
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						<p><q>Anyone have an opinion on whether National really would go to the polls again if they have to serve as a minority government, and are blocked from their neoliberal agenda? </q><br />Let's not forget Kiwiblog  back in 2005. When Winston was keeping everyone guessing, and DPF was damping down the commentariat…</p>
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						Anyone have an opinion on whether National really would go to the polls again if they have to serve as a minority government, and are blocked from their neoliberal agenda? I think it might do them more harm than good, they've been bleeding poll support since the election campaigns started.…
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						That's what I love about the place.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:15:19 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>So racists is racists </q></p><p>More like model minoritarian I think, where you can call yourself 'one of us' if you have a big fat chequebook in your pocket, or if you otherwise send your kid to <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/5989963/Elite-school-sport-event-up-for-discussion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">one of the snob schools</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:11:03 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Olaf Stapledon</p><p>So Odd John’s the man for you then…<br />:- )</p><p>More the Last Men, really.</p><p>:)</q><br />Only at PAS :- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:06:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Wow.</p><p>No mostly at the image of them throwing a live hand grenade onto a school bus. I don’t like the comment. Being a racist doesn’t make you a child killer and you have been defending the ACT party who have Dr Don as their leader. </p><p>Peters representing a party…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:58:44 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>More the Last Men, really.</p><p>:)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:09:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>Olaf Stapledon</q><br />So <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd_John" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Odd John's</a> the man for you then...<br />:- )</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:57:10 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>Not so. Smart enough to have pulled off the China FTA amongst other things.<br /></q></p><p>OK, he's a good technocrat, never doubted that, but I'm one of those people who harps on about principle and vision in a serious tone.  Get me revved up and I'll talk about metaphysics as if…</p>
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						<p>The cut worm forgives the plow.<br />William Blake.</p>
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						<p>An observation about polls, FWIW/BTW, which I've used teaching design students. </p><p>In the early eighties, Renault and Citroen researched responses to "one-box" cars, that is, small city cars that were more like miniature vans rather than conventional hatchbacks (engine compartment as a "box" out front, passenger and luggage as a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:22:16 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p><q>his mind is as deep as a not very deep thing</q></p><p>Not so. Smart enough to have pulled off the China FTA amongst other things.</p><p>He's just not so good at presenting (though it sounds like I have something to look forward to on that front when I rewind the…</p>
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						<p><q>It sinks further when he repeats he's been transparent and upfront.</q></p><p>Hmmm.</p><p>If I may be adventurous... while the 'worm" is supposedly a vulgar, trivial thing, if it makes strong movements, perhaps it represents then the impulses that drive the floating voter?</p><p>Hence, while, as I've said, "objectively", the Teapot…</p>
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						The plan to hack the worm might have come off then..
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						Well then, if the worm is to be believed, perhaps Phil Goff has saved his own job.  Fingers crossed that Mallard and a lot of the other deadwood (Horomia, Curran, Jones...) lose theirs' yet if he loses the election and remains as leader of Labour and is emboldened to look…
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						<p><q>"I don't want my children dating white people"</q></p><p>=<br />will bomb a schoolbus</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:39:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>I believe your attack on Hone's character is what brought comment.</q></p><p>Oh, and big fucking widdums to his "I don't want my children dating white people" arse too.  If you don't get why I find that absolutely contemptible, I'll show you my parents wedding photo some time.  And no, Sacha,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:36:17 +1300</pubDate>
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						“but you/ your party did too” = the <em>tu quoque</em> fallacy.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:25:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						Goff is wiping the floor with Key right now according to the TV3 worm. Goff very poised, Key trying the paternalistic approach.
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						<p>I believe your attack on Hone's character is what brought comment.</p><p>Most of us learn at a pretty young age that saying "but he did" in no way excuses your own behaviour.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>respect is not a zero sum game.</q></p><p>That's exactly what I'd call Winston Peters &ndash; zero sum.  And after twenty five years of unmitigated contempt for the man, martinb might want to pull up his fainting couch because I've said a lot worse about the man and don't intend to…</p>
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						respect is not a zero sum game.
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						<p>Immigration dept. does seem to be a basket case though, I’ve been thinking and talking a bit about the Dawn Raids (lived in Mangere at the time), part of the joy to trying to get an 18 year old engaged in political debate.<br />My mother used to teach English to…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Wow, that's quite a casual slander there. Are we still on PAS?</q></p><p>Oh, bless. You know something, Martin, you might want to check out the racist, immigrant-bashing swill I linked to in my post today.  Here's all one of Winston's little hench-things had to say:</p><p><q>Anne Martin, the Warkworth Grey…</q></p>
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						<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOs9jGfWGjc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOs9jGfWGjc</a> .
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						<p>This is true. Clark was inventive and I seem to recall that Peters acquitted himself quite well in the role. This is democracy and Peters makes that very valid point,<br />"National's leadership has to understand that democratic government, particularly in these times, is not just some business deal for certain…</p>
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						Seems to be largely about the degree of constraint that collective Cabinet responsilbity imposes. On Sky's election show Key acknowledged Clark's inventiveness at creating the looser portfolio-only, outside-cabinet arrangement that he's used this last term as well.
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						<p>Well, wasn't he Foreign Minister during the Labour Government though? </p><p>I know Maori party are claiming the same thing-'we're not in government', but if you're Foreign minister sitting around the cabinet table it's semantics surely? Important semantics maybe, but definitely part of the governing arrangement.</p>
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						<p><q>Quite – and really if I was forced to choose who to ask to hold a pinless hand grenade, I’d pick Turei and Norman in a heart murmur. Peters and Harawira would throw it in a school bus out of force of habit.</q></p><p>Wow, that's quite a casual slander there.…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>FES2.. fool scold...</strong><br /><q>...people have tried to fob off as iron pyrite.</q><br />don't tell Brownlee, the hills are full of it..<br />or was that:<br />don't tell the shills, Brownlee's full of it...<br />or was that:<br />there's Brass in muck, a crystal schloss...</p>
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						<p><strong>A Gala more free...</strong><br /><q>Alice by Dali, no less.</q><br />He picked up on the inherent politics,<br />I like <em>A Caucus Race and a Long Tale</em><br />I wonder if <em>Dali</em> ever did the <em>Iliad</em> ? <br />it's almost thru the looking glass...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:48:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>what no Jabber waka<br />oar Kate er pillar<br />or Tweedle twins?<br />(Bennett n Tolley?)<br />Peter Dunne would <br />make a great White Rarebit...<br />...nonetheless, very nice work Mr Lock...</q></p><p>Given that the original is supposed to be a surreal fantastical farce, the scary thing was how little the original text needed…</p>
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						It's certainly something people have tried to fob off as iron pyrite.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						That really should win a bottle of Zunwohl
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						<em>Alice</em> by <a href="http://www.williambennettgallery.com/artists/dali/portfolios/alice.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dali</a>, no less.
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				<title>Terry Baucher</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:37:09 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Who will Win da Wonderland...</strong><br /><q> a Cheshire Winston </q><br />what no Jabber waka<br />oar Kate er pillar<br />or Tweedle twins?<br />(Bennett n Tolley?)</p><p>Peter Dunne would <br />make a great White Rarebit...</p><p>...nonetheless, very nice work Mr Lock...</p><p>PS: <a href="http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alice6.html#train" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this page</a> of Tenniel's picture sources is interesting stuff...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:29:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kracklite</title>
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						And the soup kitchens will serve the <a href="http://nfs.sparknotes.com/hamlet/page_156.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chamaeleon's Dish.</a>  Hot.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:24:53 +1300</pubDate>
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						glue
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:17:04 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Paul Williams</title>
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						Genius! Give that man some mock turtle soup!
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:00:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p>Alice in Voterland: A farce in a seemly endless number of episodes.<br />Chapter VII</p><p>There was a table set out under a tree in front of the house, and the March Currency Trader and the Bankster were having tea at it: a Donmouse was sitting between them, fast asleep, and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:56:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>merc</title>
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						Definitely, if your horse goes lame.../creepy Lhaws moment?/
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:44:38 +1300</pubDate>
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						I doubt either of them would hang around if this gambit fails. The party's deep-pocketed backers will have other plans, for one.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:21:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Does it count as "rolling" if Banks is (as is very possible) ACTs sole MP? Surely Brash can't remain leader-outside-parliament for 3 years?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:17:49 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Will Banks roll him next year?</q></p><p>you mean, will he wait that long?<br />if either of them still have a political career after the weekend</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 12:14:27 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Jonathan King</title>
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						<p><q>i actually felt a twinge of compassion for Brash talking to Kathryn Ryan. Not because of her technique but because he seemed to be just a confused person </q></p><p>Ha ha. Yeah, you can't help feeling a little sorry for Don, in that he's a bit like Lord Grantham in Downton…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:49:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>charge of the slight brigade...</strong><br /><q>‘Accentuate the positive’</q><br />more like 'Attenuate the negative'...</p><p>Brash is experiencing a dipolar moment:<br />a loss of magnetism and a dip/flip in the polls<br />he is facing resistance and is phasing out...<br />(possibly due to personal/physical thickness)</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:58:18 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Francis</title>
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						<p>I particularly liked her choice of music after the interview.</p><p>'Accentuate the positive'</p><p>It seemed apt. If not ACT.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:42:08 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>hamishm</title>
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						i actually felt a twinge of compassion for Brash talking to Kathryn Ryan. Not because of her technique but because he seemed to be just a confused person. Will Banks roll him next year?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:35:32 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>NZF = Winston Peters</p><p>Just like UF = Peter Dunne and Progressives = Jim</q></p><p>And to a large degree, Conservatives = Colin Craig. On the other hand, the flotsam &amp; jetsam of the Christian parties have more or less regrouped under the Conservatives, so it's a defacto Christian Coalition of sorts.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:22:52 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>NZF = Winston Peters</p><p>Just like UF = Peter Dunne and Progressives = Jim</p><p>In the latter case, the party has disappeared with its leader (they aren't contesting this election, though they do have a ghostly website). I fully expect that when Peters and Dunne give it up[, their party…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:45:40 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> At least this thing is sorting out the journalists from the celebrities.</q></p><p>Yeah it is. The celebrities get paid more.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:44:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						I had a mental picture of Mallard standing just outside the studio with a taser in one hand, and cue cards in the other. "It says 'asset sales' in every sentence. It does this when it's told, or else it gets the hose again. Doesn't it, Precious? Yess it does!"
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:31:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<p><q>This is of course crap.</q></p><p>Yeah, well... there's <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/aussie-wage-gap-has-narrowed-key-4517077" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a lot of it about</a>.</p><p><q>Key: "in terms of the wage gap, that's narrowed". "We look at after tax terms, and in the three years we've been in Government we've grown those (after tax) wages by 10% (while in) Australia it's 6%."</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:28:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>In comparison with either of them, the Greens seem an absolute model of stability.</q></p><p>Quite – and really if I was forced to choose who to ask to hold a pinless hand grenade, I’d pick Turei and Norman in a heart murmur.  Peters and Harawira would throw it in a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:24:15 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Phil Goff doing well on RadioNZ</q></p><p>20 mins, <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2503023/interview-with-phil-goff" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">listening options</a>. </p><p>Certainly sounded less agitated. And finally knew the figure he's been <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/Phil-Goff-scrambles-for-answers/tabid/419/articleID/233369/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">asked about</a> 3 times in 3 days. You'd think his campaign team might have made sure he was prepared after the first time. Or after that dreadful performance in…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:04:31 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10767550" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This</a> is of course crap.</p><p>Government's only have to resign if they are defeated on a confidence/supply issue. If Key can't pass the Murray McCully Enabling Act (version 2) then he won't have to call an election &ndash; doing so would be a political decision.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:00:55 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Infinitely more stable than New Zealand First. Sorry, needs to be said.</q></p><p>Both parties have struggled for continuity. NZ First has actually only been in government once, and Peters did end that relationship after National replaced Bolger with Shipley in the midst of a term. Act hasn't done that.</p><p>But…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:46:20 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>dc_red</title>
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						Phil Goff doing well on RadioNZ right now....
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:18:26 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Given that our media seem incapable or unwilling to do what's reasonable as you've outlined, I'll settle for the natural human response when someone utters outrageous porkies. Anything is better than the mute assent we've endured for the last few years.</p><p>How the media could deal with lies might even…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:15:14 +1300</pubDate>
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						To infinitely and beyond ;-)
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:13:00 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Again I want any journo to laugh in Key’s face if he claims Act are stable. </q></p><p>Infinitely more stable than New Zealand First.  Sorry, needs to be said even if it's not a terribly high bar to clear.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:07:21 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Meanwhile, Steven Price <a href="http://www.medialawjournal.co.nz/?p=525" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">doesn’t concur</a> with Mike Hosking’s elevated opinion of himself as an expert on New Zealand privacy law:</p><p><q>If he means, he’s got a pretty good understanding of those laws, I think the rest of the interview demonstrates that he’s wrong.</q></p><p>It was worse than that, really, because…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:03:46 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Again I want any journo to laugh in Key’s face if he claims Act are stable. </q></p><p>It's not necessary to do that. It would be unprofessional and ungracious.</p><p>All it needs is for a a reporter to ask a question of the order of "Prime Minister, would you say the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:00:08 +1300</pubDate>
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						Again I want any journo to laugh in Key's face if he claims Act are stable. The young twat against MMP ran the same line on Sky/Prime's election show last night too.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:52:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						I think it is a difficult sell for National to say "don't vote for the Greens, they're unstable" while wanting people to vote for ACT, but I realise they are unlikey to be pinned down about this dissonance over the coming week.
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				<title>Deborah</title>
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						<p>The <em>Dom Post</em> has done the obvious thing, and found someone who has been unable to get police to spend anytime at all investigating the theft of money from their business, even though the person who did it has signed a confession.</p><p>[[http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/6002192/Thief-to-hand-herself-in-after-police-fail-to-act|Thief to hand herself in after police fail…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 07:38:54 +1300</pubDate>
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						Well Perth is getting a new military base from Uncle Sam, let's hope Mr Key can stand firm...nek minnit.
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						<p>That’s okay Craig. Listeners can simply check the online helpful policy guide that RNZ has made comparing each parties’ answers on policy.</p><p>This leaves the morning show for topical events like the Prime Minister running away from questioning, and saying his principled stand against airing accidentally taped conversations is not…</p>
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						<p>Geez I am seemingly to always be late to these things. And Russell seems to have said it better by quoting the man’s own words twice.</p><p> <a href="http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/i-hope-this-doesnt-get-me-in-trouble-with-the-electoral-commission" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">So I can only re-link to this</a><br />May have to get this printed off and put on my wall. The distracting colours will keep…</p>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10767255" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10767255</a></p><p>Key as he has for the past 3 years fronting for the tough interviews. More kids t-shirts to sign, then off for a round of mini golf probably. Working all hours of the day. </p><p>@RB Snap I'm a day late, you've already got there. </p><p>Paul Holmes, the man entrusted…</p>
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						<p>yes, bang on! I think.. so much of it is just one of the guys at the office do, with hints of venal slipping through occasionally when he doesn't like what's happening (the protester in the public gallery a chilling example). He's a classic workplace bully.</p><p>I also thought it…</p>
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						<q>He regards us as his employees, and now that people are not doing just what he wants, and not telling him all the time how wonderful he is, especially the media who have finally gotten over their infatuation with him, he is having a massive hissy fit, because he’s not…</q>
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						<p><q>whereas Key is an uneducated compassionless predator ... he sure as shit doesnt have ANZ’s interests at heart</q></p><p>Yes.  In the last few days as I've watched the dummy-spit, I've become more and more convinced that he's interested in doing the job well, and proving that he can be a…</p>
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						Pretty sure he was going to say something more colourful than that.
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						<p>My family is a proud matriarchy!<br />Which means our males are cherished &amp; loved and do what they will &ndash; but ALWAYS  respect &amp; take heed of female choices- may this be the positive future for us all-</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>    one must always respect big daddy’s authority</p><p>I could say something, but I’d probably regret it.</q></p><p>I'll say it for you &mdash; good fucking luck with that.</p>
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						<p>Nah, from what I've read, Jackie is a positively-motivated working compassionate &amp; engaged educated professional with an eye for the greater societal good-</p><p>whereas Key is an uneducated  compassionless predator-</p><p>he sure as shit doesnt have ANZ's interests at heart,</p><p>Fuck off to Hawai'i John Key &ndash; hope the natives eat…</p>
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						<p>Clearly not a right-thinking, hard-working, ambishus New Zillunder then.</p><p>Next you'll be telling me you're <a href="http://www.listener.co.nz/nz-election-2011-live/sunday-20-november/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">brown or something</a>.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						In my house, it's big mama that rules the roost.
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						<p><q>one must always respect big daddy’s authority</q></p><p>I could say something, but I'd probably regret it.</p>
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						<p>O! 3-play pun!<br />Sooo goood!</p>
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						<p><strong>Urika... bathwater, baby</strong><br /><q>all you need to hear is that he has some, ok.</q><br />oh, he's a comedian.. <br />he had principles that auger well<br />y'know,  a comedian screw...</p>
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						<p><strong>Listening to the anagramophone...</strong><br /><q>Michael Laws’ vile radio show</q><br />RADIO <strong>VILE</strong> has a certain douché air to it...<br />a splash in the face by day<br />a chill in the ear by night</p><p>interesting to hear TV3 saying Radio Live <br />bosses wouldn't talk to them...<br />but...</p>
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						one must always respect big daddy's authority
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						<p>Re:Lhaws</p><p>Here's hoping the vile little prick is hot on Mr Henry's heels to Australia soon. Must still need some shoeshine boys in Kalgoorlie..</p>
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						<p><q>Hooten on the other hand..</q></p><p>It's a Hooton Nanny party.</p><p><coat></p>
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						<p><q>Turns out, it was because of Michael Laws’ vile radio show. I’m in fucking despair about this.</q></p><p>The one where he told listeners to shoot journalists? I think the <a href="http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/DLM327382.html?search=ts_act_crimes+act_resel&amp;p=1&amp;sr=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Crimes Act, Sections 306 &amp; 307</a> come to mind. That man is well an truly an unhinged Glenn Beck type.</p>
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						<p>I was aware that an email went around APN staff on Friday asking them to be particularly alert for people who might be breaching office security, but it didn't seem prudent to tell the world about it &mdash; not least because I didn't know what it was really about.</p><p>Turns…</p>
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						<p>all you need to hear is that he has some, ok.<br />look, a penguin</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Baffled by bullshit...</strong><br /><q>Some people take that view, but my view, and I take that view very seriously and I’ve stood up for that principle even if I’ve been attacked by certain parts of the media for doing so, I think it inevitably leads to prominent New Zealanders and then…</q></p>
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						<p><q>we <strong>believe</strong> that the information was illegally obtained</q></p><p>Dialled back from the earlier emphatic pronouncements.</p>
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						<p>Sum total of questioning about this whole bloody business in Paul Holmes’ Q+A interview with John Key:</p><p><q>PAUL  Anyway, the week just gone – good week?</p><p>JOHN Oh, look, it’s another week, anyway.  Let’s put it in those terms.  Election campaigns are always a bit quirky, but the one thing…</q></p>
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						<p><q>It baffles me that so many Government MPs are not fronting up to candidates meetings nor for interviews.</q></p><p>It's in their interests to stay silent. And no one is making them do otherwise.</p>
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						<p>Sadly, up to 56% of the voting public couldn't care less.</p><p>56% good grief. Everyone who's ever reached such lofty heights as deputy assistant treasurer of the Taumaranui branch of the National Party will become an MP. </p><p>This is called the "Gilbert Myles" syndrome for those who remember 1990-</p>
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						It baffles me that so many Government MPs are not fronting up to candidates meetings nor for interviews. Especially since Mr Key is the National Party as shown by billboards and speeches, surely he would be pleased to front up and talk about his policies and long term plans? But…
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&amp;objectid=10767277" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">McCarten advises</a> tactical voting for the left in certain electorates, and opens with this 'reasonable' expectation:</p><p><q>This column is strategic advice for centre-left voters only.</p><p>Right wing readers should obey John Key's edict on private political conversations. So please turn the page.</q></p><p>and ends thus:</p><p><q>Thankfully, the other side won't know…</q></p>
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						<p><q>I don't regard poll results as the determinant of right</q></p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&amp;objectid=10767410" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hooten</a> on the other hand..</p><p><q>A fresh poll supports Key's decision to refuse permission to publish, with 44 per cent of people backing his stance. Thirty-three per cent of the 1200 people polled thought he should grant publication.</p><p>National Party insider…</q></p>
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						<p>I know we're not at Dimpost, but <em>this is bad for Phil Goff</em>. </p><p>I recall saying here some days ago when this thing first blew up that starving campaign oxygen was not in Labour's favour.</p>
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						Yes, I had an interesting chat with a non-voting friend recently, someone who is mostly disengaged from the details of NZ politics, having felt that no party represents him for a long time. His take was that Winston Peters and the teapot fallout represented at least one good thing about…
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				<title>Lew Stoddart</title>
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						<p><q>And, yes, I make no apologies for being *cough* disturbed that I listened to three hours of Morning Report nine days before the general election and there was no policy-related campaign stories. Why aren’t you, Lew?</q></p><p>I don’t lament the lack of policy-focused coverage in the media too loudly because…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:25:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>linger</title>
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						<p>Lew's entire point there is that <em>nobody</em> should be limiting the audience to an “either-or” choice of topics here. So, no “irony” is involved, and he wouldn’t necessarily be comfortable with a total absence of policy discussion either.<br />That said, I’d quite like somebody in the media to take Key…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 09:06:50 +1300</pubDate>
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