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				<title>Susan Snowdon</title>
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						<p>Russell, I'm a computer illiterate drongo, more or less, but I've read your Listener column for years. I used to enjoy Joseph Romanos too, and I wouldn't know a rugby ball from a  hole in the ground. Good writing can do that. <br />I want to say how I've appreciated you…</p>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						<p>With Russell's departure from The Listener, it doesn't leave much worth reading, except for Diana Wichtel and Nick Bollinger. Russell will be missed.<br /> My SO* and I have  a running joke about what might be the cover story in The Listener, when it arrives in the mail on Saturday morning--whether…</p>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>In the words of David Bowie:</p><blockquote><p>One day in Berlin ... (Brian) Eno came running in and said, 'I have heard the sound of the future.' … he puts on 'I Feel Love', by Donna Summer … He said, 'This is it, look no further. This single is going to…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:39:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had a 12" mix that was either 16 or 18 minutes long (can't remember exactly but it was looonnngg) and I too used it to clear the club when I DJ'd in the 80s.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.discogs.com/release/62697" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This</a> is the Cowley mix. Huge synth noises going crazy from about 7 minutes onwards…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:34:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Belt</title>
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						<p>Your plight-slash-fight hit home recently, once removed, when one of my nephews was declared autistic.  His father, sitting in the clinician's room thinking: "please, let it be bad parenting".</p><p>So, although we're insanely blessed with two boys who appear to be nothing but endowed with normality, I am thankful the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:48:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Nick D&#039;Angelo</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and also Bob Frisbee kinda sold me last Friday on his theory that the best version of 'I Feel Love' is the original album version.</p><p>It's more concise but I'm a sucker for the twisted Patrick Cowley 15 minuter, although the last five for are great for ending the…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:28:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Like psychics these people seem to pander to the weak and the vulnerable and the gullible. Why is there no EU type protection here in NZ???</p></blockquote><p>It's interested how some things manage to wiggle through these little loopholes.  The entire food legislation shitstorm last year was a great example of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:12:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Oh, and also Bob Frisbee kinda sold me last Friday on his theory that the best version of 'I Feel Love' is the original album version.</p></blockquote><p>It's more concise but I'm a sucker for the twisted Patrick Cowley 15 minuter, although the last five for are great for ending the…</p>
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				<title>Nick D&#039;Angelo</title>
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						<blockquote>And finally, over at The Hand Mirror, Ms Enid Tak-Entity's electrifying Feminist gets a wax, anaesthetises crotch with feminism. Ouch.</blockquote>Yes, I read that the other day. It was fascinating. And then it led me to <a href="http://jillingoff.co.nz/category/smut/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> (<strong>NSFW</strong>) and then on to <a href="http://pixyland.org/peterpan/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a>. Not directly of course, there were a few…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:37:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think regularly how lucky we are to have each other.</p></blockquote><p>You sweet, sweet man. What a lovely thing to say. Congratulations to you and your child bride.</p><blockquote><p>And who says being in love isn't a heavenly pop hit?</p></blockquote><p>Craig, too much. </p><p>Really, tears in the eyes, chaps. Nothing like…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:20:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Oh, and also Bob Frisbee kinda sold me last Friday on his theory that the best version of 'I Feel Love' is <em>the original album version</em>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:13:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder what the young lad who arrived at Rip It Up all those years ago would've thought about that ;)</p></blockquote><p>Well, there was the odd nightclub that provided an education: I recall going to the booth and asking Peter Urlich to drop Stephanie Mills' 'Pilot Error'. And of course…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:12:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p>Huge congrats to you both, Russell &amp; Fiona. When you throw out numbers like 20 years I get that we-are-not-in-Bonnington-Square-anymore feeling again. It's been a quick few decades, no?</p><blockquote><p>dancing maniacally to 'Le Freak' and 'I Feel Love'</p></blockquote><p>I wonder what the young lad who arrived at Rip It Up all…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:22:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I have had the fortune to discover the Public Address site recently, and at the same party last Fri night where I spoke briefly to Russell &ndash; "love your work", etc &ndash; I FOOSH. That's what the discharge papers said, and apparently that means Fell On Out Stretched Hand.</p></blockquote><p>Oh…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:39:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian MacKay</title>
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						rodgered: I yell at the TV at all those strange ads claiming relief from a whole range of sicknesses ranging from curing the common cold, to curing joint pain. Like psychics these people seem to pander to the weak and the vulnerable and the gullible. Why is there no EU…
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				<title>Karen Crisp</title>
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						<p>Awww.  Congratulations.</p><p>I have had the fortune to discover the Public Address site recently, and at the same party last Fri night where I spoke briefly to Russell &ndash; "love your work", etc  &ndash; I FOOSH.  That's what the discharge papers said, and apparently that means Fell On Out Stretched…</p>
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				<title>rodgerd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the alarming story of a mother called in to school to be confronted with allegations that her autistic daughter was being sexually abused &mdash; on the evidence of a psychic …</p></blockquote><p>Fuck me.  Makes me think <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL18258720080418" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this</a> is even more warranted.  Or, you know, a psychic-bankrupting civil suit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:32:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Neil Graham</title>
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						<p>As it's Friday here's a thing.</p><p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3295345&amp;id=51074710227" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">This bunch</a> have made something that looks as though it has potential.</p><p>...and congrats on the 20 years. My SO and I are passing our longer together than apart point in the next year or so.  'tis indeed a good thing™.</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Awwww ... but you know he thinks he's lucky to have you too.</p></blockquote><p>Just some times more than others (you know, when I'm not in rat-bastard freak mode), but I digress.  To prove I'm either bonkers (or a Cylon), I not only have occasional interal dialogues, but when thinking of…</p>
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				<title>Stuff n Things</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the alarming story of a mother called in to school to be confronted with allegations that her autistic daughter was being sexually abused &mdash; on the evidence of a psychic …</p></blockquote><p>Bizarre story that one.  I am very impressed by the factual and sensible approach taken by the journalist…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>You're not the only person who does that then. Every so often, I have this little voice pop up and say, "I hope you realise what a fortunate SOB you really are &mdash; because you traded all the way up. David &ndash; not so much." :)</p></blockquote><p>Awwww ... but you…</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<blockquote><p>PS: My darling and I are having a little dinner out tonight, to mark what is roughly 20 years together (not just knowing each other &mdash; that's pushing 30). I think regularly how lucky we are to have each other.</p></blockquote><p>You're not the only person who does that then.  Every…</p>
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				<title>Luke Williamson</title>
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						Congrats on your sort of anniversary and wonderful stint at Listener Russell. Love your work . . . still!
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				<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:25:19 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Oh, and while I was looking at Stu Page's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/N0ISYLAND" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">channel</a>, I found this:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfjJTCOSFg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfjJTCOSFg</a></p><p>A little video for one of my favourite Clean songs, 'Outside the Cage', compiled from various sources.</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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