<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>




<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: A fiction of unalloyed darkness</title>
		<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/</link>
		<atom:link rel="self" href="https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/rss/" type="application/rss+xml"/>
		
		<description><![CDATA[A talking shop where we put the questions and our community illuminates the issues.]]></description>
			<language>en-us</language>
			<copyright>Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address</copyright>
			

		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252293#post252293</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252293#post252293</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						you also need the 'http://' at the beinning of that youtube link before it will embed here automatically
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:39:58 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252292#post252292</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252292#post252292</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>When it’s being presented as a “memoir” or a “documentary play” (or even that delightfully fuzzy genre the ‘biopic’), I think that expectation is real and not unreasonable.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfVs3WaE9Y</a></p><p>I mean, I'm not sure how realistic or reasonable that expectation is Craig.  This case seems  <a href="http://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">symptomatic</a> of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">age</a> we…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:36:45 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252280#post252280</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252280#post252280</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>Unfortunately another common tactic when people are presented with stories that don’t fit their preconceived China narrative. It’s easier to write inconvenient alternative views off as an evil Commie plot than accept that one’s own view might not be as perfect or complete as it so comfortably feels. And of…</q>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:27:36 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252279#post252279</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252279#post252279</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote>If you go on a stage and say that you personally saw something, and the show in which you make this claim is not clearly identified in some meaningful way as “fiction” or “fictionalized,” [Emphasis mine] then you’d better have seen it–especially if you tell your audiences that they need…</blockquote>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:19:47 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252277#post252277</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252277#post252277</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Although in the comments, it’s striking that several people have been able to convince themselves that Daisey’s translator is a stooge put up by Apple and the Chinese government.</q></p><p>Unfortunately another common tactic when people are presented with stories that don't fit their preconceived China narrative. It's easier to write…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:19:07 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252250#post252250</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252250#post252250</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>For the record, I was somewhat playing Devil's Advocate.</q></p><p>Which you do beautifully, cherub. :)</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:03:26 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252242#post252242</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252242#post252242</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Have you ever heard of Spalding Gray</q></p><p>Yeah, I saw one of his in the mid-'90s (probably <em>Gray's Anatomy</em>).</p><p>For the record, I was somewhat playing Devil's Advocate.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:48:00 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252238#post252238</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252238#post252238</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>My question was really in relation to the craig-supported proposed general rule, rather than to the Daisey case specifically.</q></p><p>Have you ever heard of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spalding_Gray" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spalding Gray</a> &ndash; he was a "performance artist" who developed quite a reputation for his first-person autobiographical monologues. But part of their charm is that Gray…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:25:47 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252237#post252237</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252237#post252237</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						he'd be a cracking Prime Minister too
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:24:03 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Greg Dawson</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252236#post252236</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252236#post252236</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>No really, Martin Sheen is NOT the president.</q></p><p>Bet he'd have a strong chance of winning the democratic nomination next time it comes around though.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:01:29 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252234#post252234</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252234#post252234</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>The fiction parts of TAL are usually really clearly labelled as fiction.</q></p><p>Fair enough. I'm not going to argue that Daisey got it right &ndash; he's admitted he didn't &ndash; or even that TAL is blameless.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:17:18 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>papango</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252232#post252232</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252232#post252232</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Possibly. Alternatively, one could say that if it's billed as part fiction, then don't be surprised if it's part fiction.</q></p><p>The fiction parts of TAL are usually really clearly labelled as fiction. It's not a case where stories are a mix of fact and fiction, each one is either fact…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 10:00:46 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252230#post252230</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252230#post252230</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Why would anyone expect a theatre piece to be literally true?</q></p><p>No really, Martin Sheen is NOT the president.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:48:10 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252229#post252229</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252229#post252229</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>it’s reasonably easy to try and buy ethical food</q></p><p>But it's actually quite a bit harder to succeed.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:45:29 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252228#post252228</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252228#post252228</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><strong>When in Rome...</strong><br /><q>one could say that if it’s billed as part fiction, <br />then don’t be surprised if it’s part fiction.</q><br />a 'roman-a-clef' perhaps...</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:42:20 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252226#post252226</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252226#post252226</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Call me an old fogey, if you must, but when you're billing yourself as mostly truth, but part fiction keeping that distinction clear is a non-trivial thing to do.</q></p><p>Possibly. Alternatively, one could say that if it's billed as part fiction, then don't be surprised if it's part fiction.</p><p>Anyhow,…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:15:10 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252225#post252225</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252225#post252225</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						My question was really in relation to the craig-supported <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3400/?p=252218#post252218" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">proposed general rule</a>, rather than to the Daisey case specifically.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:09:18 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252224#post252224</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252224#post252224</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I don't get this. Why would anyone expect a theatre piece to be literally true?</q></p><p>When it's being presented as a "memoir" or a "documentary play" (or even that delightfully fuzzy genre the 'biopic'), I think that expectation is real and not unreasonable. </p><p>Here's now This American Life is described…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 09:01:26 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252223#post252223</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252223#post252223</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I don’t get this. Why would anyone expect a theatre piece to be literally true?</q></p><p>Because it was presented as such by its author, both on and off stage.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:57:53 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252222#post252222</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252222#post252222</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>The fact of Daisey's confession doesn't seem to be an impediment to their beliefs.</q></p><p>And I'm pretty fucking sick of seeing TAL host/producer Ira Glass being patted on the back for his "integrity" in promptly retracting a story on his show whose fabrications were pretty brutally &ndash; and comprehensively -…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:52:08 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>3410</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252221#post252221</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252221#post252221</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>WSJ drama critic and arts blogger Terry Teachout has a proposed first commandment for performance artists that's worth quoting in full:</p><p>    __If you go on a stage and say that you personally saw something, and the show in which you make this claim is not clearly identified in some meaningful…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:47:38 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252220#post252220</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252220#post252220</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>This article <a href="http://grist.org/media/mr-daisey-and-the-fact-factory" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://grist.org/media/mr-daisey-and-the-fact-factory</a> touches on a point about what makes good storytelling: the building of trust in a particular, not necessarily “real”, world; and of course when that trust is broken, people feel very angry.</q></p><p>Although in the comments, it's striking that several people have been able to convince themselves…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:39:20 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252218#post252218</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252218#post252218</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>One interesting part (for me, anyway) of this story has been the lily-livered assertion by Mike Daisey that what he did was OK because it was "theatre".</q></p><p>WSJ drama critic and arts blogger Terry Teachout has a <a href="http://www.artsjournal.com/aboutlastnight/2012/03/tt_a_proposed_first_commandmen.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">proposed first commandment for performance artists</a> that's worth quoting in full:</p><p><q>If you…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:10:06 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>bronwyn</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252215#post252215</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252215#post252215</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						One interesting part (for me, anyway) of this story has been the lily-livered assertion by Mike Daisey that what he did was OK because it was "theatre". Not surprisingly, a lof theatre people have been quite dismayed by this, and it's prompted quite a few reflective pieces of writing (not…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:36:50 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>DexterX</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252211#post252211</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252211#post252211</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Lifted from your link to &ndash; Hispanic Poultry Workers Live in New Southern Slums </p><p>The lack of affordable housing affects workers' health, safety, and family stability. Because good housing is so scarce, it is not uncommon to find several families or groups of men living in one ramshackle house, each…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:59:23 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Chris Waugh</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252210#post252210</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252210#post252210</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						The Adam Minter mentioned in Schmidt's story is, I strongly suspect, the one who can be found blogging <a href="http://shanghaiscrap.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. His blog's been a bit quiet of recent months, but I think a browse through the archives will show he tends to be fairly careful and balanced and make sure he…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 23:21:57 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252183#post252183</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252183#post252183</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>It’s as good a motivation as any to lose less phones.</q></p><p>Which actually highlights some of the issues in consumer protest in this area.</p><p>You or I making fewer calls on our phones obviously doesn't help. Maybe, over time, not buying certain brands might help (problem: other phones aren't very…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:09:17 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252181#post252181</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252181#post252181</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Sir, you put a smile on my face with that post. Most of all (from the last thread) I'm grateful to you for highlighting the fact that my Nokia was most likely also produced at the Sz Foxconn plant (or somewhere similar).  It's as good a motivation as any to…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 19:00:54 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252179#post252179</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252179#post252179</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I don’t disagree that it is a real issue, and fully deserving of it’s own thread. Yet 137 workers poisoned by n-hexane cleaning iPhone screens (link on other thread) is no less real </q></p><p>Yes, and it was justly reported after it happened, two years ago and 1200km away at a…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:44:28 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Sacha</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252175#post252175</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252175#post252175</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>this moving piece</q></p><p>reckon</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:28:31 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252174#post252174</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252174#post252174</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>I honestly think it’s a real issue, especially when stuff in China is huge headline news and stuff in the US southern states is largely confined to trade publications. The armed factory guards that Daisey lied about seeing in Shenzen have actually been a reality in America.</p></blockquote><p>I don't disagree…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:25:40 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252172#post252172</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252172#post252172</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>You’ve come out pretty strong on this considering the mass and visibility of allegations raised on this side of the firewall. </q></p><p>I think I’ve mentioned it twice in posts. And I think I’ve also been very clear that US tech firms (and Apple in particular) and their suppliers should be…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:12:25 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252171#post252171</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252171#post252171</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Sure, Daisey insulted the journalists, got that. The reason I ask is your repeated “don’t touch the Apple, look at the meat” campaign reminds me of the Chinese ‘5 mao’,</q></p><p>I honestly think it's a real issue, especially when stuff in China is huge headline news and stuff in the…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:04:34 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252170#post252170</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252170#post252170</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Don’t be ridiculous. Daisey lied in his monologue, in the This American Life doco and to a string of journalists who directly asked him about it. He actively tried to cover up those lies.</p></blockquote><p>Sure, Daisey insulted the journalists, I got that. The reason I asked is your repeated "don't…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:56:20 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252168#post252168</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252168#post252168</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>I wouldn’t feel the need to ask, respectfully, have you ever received compensation from Apple or any of its subsidiaries for the time you put into maintaining the corporation’s public image Russell?</q></p><p>Don't be ridiculous. Daisey lied in his monologue, in the This American Life doco and to a string…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:31:15 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252166#post252166</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252166#post252166</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>Simple,when I’m in America I eat no ipads and use no meat.</q><br /><a href="http://www.wimp.com/dadipad/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> So dad, how do you like the iPad we got you?</a><br /><em>*posted from an old ibm desktop*</em></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:27:36 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>chris</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252162#post252162</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252162#post252162</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Yes. But was an insult to real journalists who had spent years investigating and reporting these stories in their real complexity. And  it also served the conceits of its American audience.</p></blockquote><p>so no WMDs? If a cursory search of the Chinese internet didn't further suspicions that Daisey's was but the…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:11:44 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>andrew r</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252159#post252159</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252159#post252159</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>That was in 2006, but the lives of workers in the US meat processing industry remain very, very grim. People also get poisoned and die in explosions.</q></p><p>Simple,when I'm in America I eat no ipads and use no meat.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:00:21 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Russell Brown</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252155#post252155</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252155#post252155</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>But it runs, doesn’t it? ‘There be monsters over the sea’ has worked since the dawn of time. Now it just makes the NYT.</q></p><p>Meanwhile, <a href="http://www.hrw.org/news/2005/01/24/abuses-against-workers-taint-us-meat-and-poultry" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">in the US</a> ...</p><p><q>In 2000, Smithfield created an internal company security force with “special police agency” status under North Carolina law that enables company…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:38:24 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252152#post252152</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252152#post252152</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>I think you will find this sort of thing has <a href="http://website.lineone.net/~mcrouch/marcopolo/liar.htm " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Happened Before</a><br /><q>There is a general myth that has grown up around Marco Polo, mainly well-intentioned attempts to inspire children to study, that Marco introduced such things as spaghetti, noodles and ice cream to China and the West.…</q></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:00:14 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Patrick Xavier</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252151#post252151</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252151#post252151</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Well, that Rebecca Hamilton piece was an unexpected surprise in the present content. Thanks for pointing it out.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:24:56 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252150#post252150</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252150#post252150</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p><q>because they're ever so inscrutable those Chinese. Gah.</q></p><p>But it runs, doesn't it? 'There be monsters over the sea' has worked since the dawn of time.  Now it just makes the NYT.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:19:14 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tim Michie</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252148#post252148</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252148#post252148</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<q>Daisey’s fiction was predicated on the notion that China is essentially unknowable</q> because they're ever so inscrutable those Chinese.  Gah.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:52:13 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>DexterX</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252144#post252144</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252144#post252144</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:26:57 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Toby</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252137#post252137</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252137#post252137</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>The long, long pauses from Daisey in the retraction piece (at about 29 minutes) are staggeringly gripping radio. <a href="http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=460&amp;podcast=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=460&amp;podcast=1</a></p><p>The Rebecca Hamilton mentioned in the Salmon piece, btw, is I'm pretty sure the NZ-born Rebecca Hamilton who penned this moving piece on the New Yorker blog: <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/03/last-words-rebecca-hamilton.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/03/last-words-rebecca-hamilton.html</a></p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:22:20 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Public Address</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252136#post252136</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-fiction-of-unalloyed-darkness/?p=252136#post252136</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:22:20 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
	</channel>
</rss>
