Public Address | Cafe | Hard News: A complicated pathway to wellness https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380786#post380786 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380786#post380786 Pre-tertiary education is about to get a major shakeup with quite some alacrity all without millions spent on an inquiry.

It seems mental health is being treated yet again as a poor cousin. The rhetoric of crisis is not being met by any commitment to action and funding.

A pity…

]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:36:32 +1300 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380784#post380784 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380784#post380784 ...foetal alcohol syndrome, which is a massive, generational problem.

Add to that P babies now coming into the health, education and welfare system and it’s going to place even more pressure on systems at breaking point.

I’m not sure the inquiry said much about how to plan for that. People…

]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2018 13:05:16 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380783#post380783 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380783#post380783 The levers you’ve mentioned haven’t had much influence on that despite many tinkerings with settings over the past century (witness the extreme case of the “6 o’clock swill” as a reaction to early closing). Other levers might be more relevant (e.g. “responsible host” laws), but still offer only small parts… ]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:04:05 +1300 andin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380781#post380781 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380781#post380781 Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:19:12 +1300 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380779#post380779 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380779#post380779 I can agree that some pathway should continue to exist for those clearly having potentially harmful psychosis* to be helped rapidly by mental health professionals rather than only the police.

In crisis situations where safety is of immediate primary importance establishing rapport and trust is often not possible.

I’m disappointed…

]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:00:37 +1300 linger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380776#post380776 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380776#post380776 Cuz NyooZuld doesn’t have culture??
Nah, of course there are relevant social norms, e.g. about the acceptability of drinking with the purpose of getting utterly munted: social activities may be “within the limit of the law”, but they don’t have to be “testing the limit of the law and/or the…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 19:14:44 +1300 tussock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380775#post380775 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380775#post380775 Many individuals, local government bodies, educational institutions and businesses can contribute to the goal of changing the drinking culture without any changes to the law.
No they can't. Like, what?

It's not culture, you change alcohol use and immediate violence numbers with price and hours and distance between outlets. Put…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:13:04 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380773#post380773 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380773#post380773 situations are dealt with by the criminal legal system rather than health.

I can agree that some pathway should continue to exist for those clearly having potentially harmful psychosis* to be helped rapidly by mental health professionals rather than only the police.

*Or any other potentially dangerous mental health condition.…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 15:19:39 +1300 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380770#post380770 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380770#post380770 The recommendation is that the mental health act be done away with because it’s coercive. No mention of what could replace it is made and there is no discussion as to why coercive acts maybe be sometimes necessary.

That’s not a recipe for any positive improvement.

What could happen is…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:57:48 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380769#post380769 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380769#post380769 People at present can be placed under the act for a drug induced psychosis

I don't think that excludes legal drugs, does it? If you're psychotic because of your Prozac you can still be coercively admitted, because it's about the psychosis and the danger it presents to the individual and…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 13:51:30 +1300 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380768#post380768 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380768#post380768 The police can detain them but in what circumstances/environment and what is the role of mental health services. People at present can be placed under the act for a drug induced psychosis – if that option is no longer there what would be the alternative.

I’m not suggesting the current…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:50:07 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380767#post380767 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380767#post380767 It does however, as far as I can see, glide over the significant issues of how to deal with the small number of people who become extremely voilent on p and synthetics. Of course ultimately they should be offered treatment but in times of extreme crisis and risk there needs… ]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:43:41 +1300 Neil https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380766#post380766 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380766#post380766 The addiction treatment part of the report appears to me to be the most coherent aspect with the clearest outline of a path forward.

It does however, as far as I can see, glide over the significant issues of how to deal with the small number of people who become…

]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2018 12:30:54 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380765#post380765 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/hard-news-a-complicated-pathway-to-wellness/?p=380765#post380765 Discussion from blog post.

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