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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I find it depressing that it wasn't so long ago that real conservative writers and thinkers like Russell Kirk, William F. Buckley, Alan Bloom and Francis Fukuyama were on the bestseller lists and getting serious media attention.</p></blockquote><p>And also on that, there is a real, almost tangible sense that philosophies…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 23:27:44 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Francis Fukuyama</p></blockquote><p>I would say that Mr Fukuyama's most recent work, in 2006, was the recipient as much, if not more ink, especially in the mainstream, than any of his earlier books...and it reached number one on the NYT list as I recall.</p><p>He reached the front page of The…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p>Craig,<br />there is a vast gulf between the vitriol urging violence used over and over again by Coulter and a few unchecked facts, and misquoted sources in Moore's' footnotes.  </p><p>Moore, as I said I have my problems with him, largely due to lazy editing, and a tendancy to, shall we…</p>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						yeah fair enough, and well put. what's driving the degeneration of commentary do you reckon?
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:17:13 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Riddley:</p><p>Oh, that was just me being snarky &ndash; because that's another part of the Moore-Coulter shtick that really pisses me off &ndash; the Park Avenue populist, pretending they're oppressed but undaunted speakers of truth to the evil forces arrayed against them.  Please, if that pair ever said anything genuinely…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:41:39 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						come on craig, you don't need ot resort to that 'politically incorrect' malarky, your arguments are sound enough as they are
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:43:22 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Simon:</p><p>Sorry?  Perhaps I'm really politically incorrect, but I do like books being marketed as non-fiction to undergo some basic <strong>fact</strong>-checking before they hit the shelves &ndash; a good start is making sure footnoted quotes and references bear some relationship to their source material.  Otherwise, you might as well sign…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:56:47 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						<p>yes most Pew research is fairly valid IMHO, although looking at that one it seems religiousity, Republicanism and 65+ appear the stronger correlates (geographic location, SES and education are much weaker and probably not worth inferring too much from on those data at least).<br />from my little background in nz…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:34:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>jon_knox</title>
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						<p>Craig the organisation that conducted the survey didn't look flakey, infact quite legit ...my  interpretation of the results is another thing entirely....but nonetheless I found it kinda amusing........that's just what lept out to me.  </p><p>Time to rest my weary head after a cracking night of SJD at the Kings Arms!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 02:26:45 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Who would have guessed that the Michael Moore of the far-right would finally be useful for something?</p></blockquote><p>I have my own problems with Moore but I think it's a wee bit unfair to lump him in with with someone whose quotes include:</p><p>__"we should invade their countries, kill their leaders…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 01:17:56 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Jon:</p><p>Yes, I believe Ann Coulter's made a whole career out of sruverys like that.  I don't think that's the kind of company you want to be keeping in these parts &ndash; hell, after her recent mouth-fart at the C-Pac convention last week, she's even getting the bum's rush from…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:27:43 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Here's something for statisticians out there being the <a href="http://pewresearch.org/assets/social/pdf/Morality.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> results of a survey on morality</a>.</p><p>Interestingly for me that when the data is sliced and diced,(&amp; generalising wildly) being in any of the following demographic groups tend to exhibit similar outcomes in decision making when it comes to answering this survey…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:54:58 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Riddley Walker</title>
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						yeah i thought that too. i often marvel at how accidents of coincidence can sometimes preciptate, or at least push along, social and political changes. there have been a number of them.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:19:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Span .</title>
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						I thought the timing of the launch of Hothouse was unfortunate.  The first scene I saw was a police man pulling a woman into an alley and feeling her up.  Bit too close to the bone for me on the day Rickards, Shipton and Schollum were found not guilty.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:36:24 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Morgan Nichol</title>
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						<p>Wowie, TVNZ3?  Which colon did that fall out of?</p><p>Was the problem with having "Free" in the name?  (If so, allow me to suggest TView.  Even 3VNZ sounds nicer, though it still looks about as poetic as their nom de turd.)</p><p>If you're sitting at your desk all day thinking…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:18:19 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Ha! That is so true. We will sit through hours of American made garbage but if our own stuff isn't up to the absolute best we dismiss it as crap.</p><p>Then again, Shortland St...</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:37:43 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><em>The first episode of Rude Awakenings was pretty bad.</em></p><p> Yes, it was.  I thought the same thing about critic's daling <em>The Insider's Guide to Happiness</em> and checked out &ndash; and having finally watched the rest of it on DVD, it still stinks but found it's feet pretty quickly.  The problem…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:33:12 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>I was kinda disappointed with Rude Awakenings, and having seen a couple of the proposals I asked about above, I was hoping for more from it.</p><p>Bad character intros and characters that seemed to have no depth past 5mins. Grumblegrumble</p>
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The first episode of Rude Awakenings was pretty bad. I think just awkward character introductions, but it's warmed up</p></blockquote><p>I quite enjoyed the first episode, but I suspected the show could swing either way.  Agreed, awkward character introductions.  &amp; now I like it.</p><p>The Hothouse: opening scene = police girl walks…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:54:57 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>James Green</title>
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						The first episode of Rude Awakenings was pretty bad. I think just awkward character introductions, but it's warmed up. I haven't seen a full episode of The Hothouse yet, but so far I don't think it's up to Insiders
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				<title>Heather Gaye</title>
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						I'd just like to take this opportunity to weigh in with the remotely related comment that Rude Awakenings is great, and The Hothouse is drivel.
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				<title>Ben Austin</title>
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						Am I alone in associating the words 'violent' and 'lurches' with tvnz?
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>What happened to all of the sit-com proposals that went into TVNZ limbo last year?</p></blockquote><p>Being dusted off right now, I'd wager ...</p>
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				<title>Joanna</title>
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						Stone the flamin' crows, TVNZ must be toeier than a roman sandal at the news about <em>Home & Away</em> but to give them a fair suck of the sav, they never really had a chance once they lost<em>The Simpsons</em>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:35:06 +1300</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>re: msn.co.nz</p><p>Noizy noted <a href="http://dropkicks.co.nz/2007/03/msnconz-sports-crap.php" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">yesterday</a> how woeful their sports coverage was for a "New Zealand" news site.</p><p>re: The Point $$$</p><p>What happened to all of the sit-com proposals that went into TVNZ limbo last year?</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:30:05 +1300</pubDate>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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