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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>Plenty of scope for the opposition, you'd think. Govt takes wrecking ball to community services.<br />Yet we get stupid whining about the introduction of new taxes and the Govt deficit. You'd think it was obvious that castigating the govt for doing things you'd like to do is dumber than dumb…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2015 12:12:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						We will see more stories like counselling service Relationships Aotearoa <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/274616/take-over-of-relationships-aotearoa-clients" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">being forced to close down</a> as the govt's new contracting approach rolls out. Yay, Budget.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 20:28:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alistair McBride</title>
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						Token initiatives – is that like the Z service station place your token in your favourite of the charities they have chosen?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2015 10:08:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>He bought in 1981,  we bought in 1987.</p><p>A few changes in the national economy in the intervening years....</p><p>We were "lucky" not to have to pay off student loans.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 19:04:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p>My first house in Brighton (south of Dunedin) cost a grand total of $5,000 in the mid-seventies. A 30% deposit? No problem. ;-)</p><p>So I was understandably shocked at Auckland prices when I headed north for work. My old villa on 1/4 acre in Mount Albert set me back a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 18:27:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>Luckily...we had been able to save..</q></p><p>The story on <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/somewhere-live-video-6319500" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">tvnz's Sunday</a> about this included that the reporter had saved a 33% deposit in *one* year of working in the early 1980s. That's not luck, it's economic settings. The equivalents nowadays are having rich parents or winning lotto.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 18:08:43 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>"Mortgage rates peaked at 20.5% in June 1987...."</q></p><p>I was luckily living in London at the time and paying (from memory) around 3% interest on my mortgage. We couldn't understand how people back home could afford to pay 20% and more.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 17:53:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						Interesting. How would a financial institution distinguish payments by partners, flatmates, people you sold something to on TradeMe (not in the course of a business) etc?
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 16:56:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>and...."Mortgage rates peaked at 20.5% in June 1987...."</p><p>just about the time we bought out first home....needed a deposit of 25%,  two incomes.</p><p>Luckily...we had been able to save...</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 16:39:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Alfie</title>
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						<p><q>(for historic reference...what were the mortgage interest rates back then? 17, 18%?)</q></p><p>A handy graphic from <a href="http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key_graphs/mortgage_rates/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Reserve Bank</a>.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 16:02:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						<p><q>for historic reference…what were the mortgage interest rates back then? 17, 18%?)</q></p><p>When I got my mortgage in 1990 it was at 14.5%, and went up to 15.5% the following year, before starting to reduce.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 14:51:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>We did the 'ships that pass in the night' thing....he in the door as me on the way out.</p><p>(for historic reference...what were the mortgage interest rates back then? 17, 18%?)</p><p>I remember when my hours increased requiring a 4.30pm start,  and he could not tweak his hours to accommodate…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 14:30:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>@Rosemary, as long as we’re all busy telling women what they’re doing wrong, something, something, anecdote, up hill both ways in the snow.</q></p><p>While we're at it,  we might as well get the Gospel according to Mike...</p><p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&amp;gal_cid=1503075&amp;gallery_id=150719" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/national/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503075&amp;gal_cid=1503075&amp;gallery_id=150719</a></p><p>who draws on NZer of the year Dr Lance back up his…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 14:20:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p><q>How can we have gone from it being considered wrong for a mother to work(and oh! the criticism I got in the eighties!), to it being wrong for her not to, in such a short space of time?</q></p><p>Elizabeth Warren (ex-Harvard, now a US Senator) did some fantastic quantitative research…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 14:08:36 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>an unscientific anti-communist bullshit piece of rhetoric from the cold war.</q></p><p>Yes. Deeply scar(r)ed by communism, both Rand and Hayek tossed the baby out with the bathwater in the name of unrestrained personal 'freedom'.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 13:51:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Scrabbling for cash, English talks about selling off some Chch cbd property (on the grounds that govt ownership <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/top/274453/minister-suggests-christchurch-land-sell-off" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">is holding prices up</a> &ndash; exactly as the Frame was designed to do).
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 13:48:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>tussock</title>
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						<p>@Rosemary, as long as we're all busy telling women what they're doing wrong, something, something, anecdote, up hill both ways in the snow.</p><p>#$25, no one's getting $25 dollars, are they. That's like when they say some single mum with a kid who's at the doctor every second day is…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 13:18:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>How can we have gone from it being considered wrong for a mother to work(and oh! the criticism I got in the eighties!), to it being wrong for her not to, in such a short space of time?</q></p><p>I suspect they're both sides of the same coin that is the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 11:42:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>articulate and really gets it.</q></p><p>and yet eschews the idea of going into politics....where his talents are much needed.</p><p>We have three grown children,  three student loans,  five tertiary qualifications,  one (fairly) secure job,  one pathetically grateful for a 20 hour pw contract and one giving up on a post…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 11:30:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>So there may be a queue to rip their throats out.<br />Ready to get in line?</q></p><p>There's only one thing the inter-generational thieves fear more than death, and it's bankruptcy. For the simple fact that it's one of the few things that bring them back down to the level of…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 10:46:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>Now TVNZ is even running stories about inter-generational theft and how it is occurring.</q><br />Not sure if this is referenced, but Andrew Dean (Ruth, Roger and me) is a great spokesperson – articulate and really gets it. This is a nine minute clip, but well worth watching <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/ruth-roger-me-andrew-dean-video-6319170" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://tvnz.co.nz/q-and-a-news/ruth-roger-me-andrew-dean-video-6319170</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 10:44:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						I suspect the kids will just leave, Pied Piper styles. Someone else can empty the bedpans.
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 10:13:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>andin</title>
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						<p><q> inter-generational theft that governments over the past 30 years have engineered</q><br />These excuses for human beings, yes of my generation, are too busy stealing from generations not yet born to care about much except their own miserable arses.<br />So there may be a queue to rip their throats out.<br />Ready…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 09:54:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>the inter-generational theft that governments over the past 30 years have engineered – wittingly or not, the jury is still out. Inter-generational theft. I’ve been attacked by a few tories and elderly PAers over the years for mentioning the term.</q></p><p>Well good for you. Your activist record might turn out…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 01:45:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>The worm has certainly turned but this budget did as little as possible to address the inter-generational theft that governments over the past 30 years have engineered – wittingly or not, the jury is still out. Inter-generational theft. </q></p><p>Sadly it’s not unique to NZ, especially if you’ve seen __Inequality For…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2015 00:27:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Andre</title>
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						The worm has certainly turned but this budget did as little as possible to address the inter-generational theft that governments over the past 30 years have engineered &ndash; wittingly or not, the jury is still out. Inter-generational theft. I've been attacked by a few tories and elderly PAers over the…
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				<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 22:32:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p><q>Excellent interview of Helen Kelly by Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ just before. Lots of ideas for progress.<br /><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201755433/union-boss" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201755433/union-boss</a>’s-battle-for-workers-and-personal-battle</q></p><p>Knew this was coming up but family stuff prevented us from listening live.  Thank god for podcasts.  Held off replying until got the chance to read Rebecca Macfie's article in the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2015 13:53:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p><q>You didn’t link your blog?</q></p><p>Dammit. Let's try that again, without trying to be clever with linked text.</p><p><a href="http://marsden-online.dreamwidth.org/950670.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://marsden-online.dreamwidth.org/950670.html</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2015 15:47:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						You didn't link your blog?
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2015 15:02:48 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Henry Barnard</title>
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						<p>In answer to your first question:</p><p><q>Are people on 5,10,15 hours work a week included in the employment figures? </q></p><p>From <a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/snapshots-of-nz/nz-socialindicators/Home/Labour%20market/employment.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Statistics NZ</a>:</p><p><q>The ‘working-age population’ is the usually resident, non-institutionalised, civilian population of New Zealand aged 15 and over. We count people as employed if, <strong>in a week</strong>, they:…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2015 13:49:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>That's a forecast for a massive reduction in net immigration. Wonder what their basis is for such a forecast.</q></p><p>Maybe the flow of NZers coming back from overseas during the GFC are drying up? Or the flow outwards is picking up?</p>
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				<title>Robert Urquhart</title>
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						<p><q>I think there is a plan for a more sophisticated system where companies will report payroll to IRD in realtime and be issued adjustments. (There is also a privacy issue where you might not want one employer to know about your side job and how much they pay you).</q></p><p>You…</p>
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						<p><q>I think there is a plan for a more sophisticated system where companies will report payroll to IRD in realtime and be issued adjustments. (There is also a privacy issue where you might not want one employer to know about your side job and how much they pay you).</q></p><p>This…</p>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<q>I think there is a plan for a more sophisticated system where companies will report payroll to IRD in realtime and be issued adjustments. (There is also a privacy issue where you might not want one employer to know about your side job and how much they pay you) .</q>…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 17:02:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>If somebody works 2 or more jobs, the payroll people at the second job don't know how much they earn in the first, and thus can't tell which tax band to put them in. </p><p>So if you have two jobs on $16 an hour, you'll pay too much tax on…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 16:46:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						Yes and yes. But they are such general questions and of course there are more qualified explanations. The Stats and IRD websites are your friends wrt detail.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 16:30:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p>For me personally, Budgets aren’t going to mean much until there’s some proper investment to fix the skills shortage/under-investment. In the long run it would probably reduce the need for people to go on the benefit.</p><p>In practice, it’d mean schemes like an <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/249530/labour-to-create-ict-apprenticeships" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">ICT apprenticeship system</a>, or funding or otherwise…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 15:55:00 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p><q>They can happily claim these moves were, in fact, their ideas, if implemented slightly differently.</q><br />If they’d done that- if they’d congratulated the govt on raising benefits, but insisted it wasn’t enough – ditto on CGT – I’d agree. <br />But no. Little and Robertson just moaned it ‘didn’t show a…</p>
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				<title>wendyf</title>
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						Not directly related to the budget, but I have 2 questions. Are people on 5,10,15 hours work a week included in the employment figures? And do people who work 2 or more jobs have to pay secondary tax?
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 14:37:51 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Just starting to look at the CTU report. This is of interest;</p><p>__Treasury, Reserve Bank and other bank economists have commented that the current high net immigration is holding down wages. **Treasury’s forecast is for net immigration to peak this year at 56,000 and fall gradually to 12,000 in 2018…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 14:34:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Yes, it neatly showed that the office of the PM has a nice big cluster of juicy purple grapes, but the Ministry for Women get a small handful of brown and grey ones. The Police got the same grapes, just a bigger handful.
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						It just came up as hundreds of tiny balloons on my ipad, very pretty budget.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 14:05:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Word on all that. The small differences are enough now, especially in aggregate. I totally agree that going all bipartisan on child poverty can only play into Labour's hands.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 13:42:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>The only reason I can see for keeping the extra $25 (maximum, some get nothing, some an in between amount)</q></p><p>And see this is an area where Labour could say great job but the implementation is a bit odd because the way it's set up the people most in need…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 13:42:47 +1200</pubDate>
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						Wrongfooting an opponent is a nice tactical play, but I don't think I'd give away 25 meters of territory for it, which is what's happened here.
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>The need for difference comes down to the choice voters will have.</q></p><p>There is still plenty of difference to be had.</p><p>Labour probably wouldn't sell off our state housing stock to whichever developer donated the most to the election campaign.</p><p>Labour probably wouldn't abandon the kiwisaver incentive simply to balance…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 13:40:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>to wrong foot the opposition </q></p><p>which worked a treat for them. Joyce is good at the game (not so much at the rest of the job).</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 13:35:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>steve black</title>
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						<p>One of the interesting things to me about the way this budget was delivered is that the Government seems to have stepped away (slightly?) from the no surprises approach we have had for some years. I liked the no surprises approach. </p><p>The only reason I can see for keeping the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 13:25:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>By implementing the National version, they’re going after their own vote from 2014 who could swing.</q></p><p>They are, but in doing so, that means Labour no longer has to keep pressing towards the center, and could go after their own vote who, rather than swinging, just stopped voting in disgust…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:55:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Palethorpe</title>
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						<p>They can, and National can say ‘we’ve started doing this, let us finish the job’ in 2017. Keep the team that’s working revisited. </p><p>National recognise that 47% number is soft, and Labour's policies appealed to them. By implementing the National version, they're going after their own vote from 2014 who…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:32:16 +1200</pubDate>
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						CTU seems to have a comprehensive report up already about the various Budget areas. Can't find it on their own website (fail) but someone linked to <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/numjao5s75v02hy/ctu%20report%20on%20budget%202015.pdf?dl=0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a Dropbox version</a>.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:21:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> When you start talking policy, it now gets harder.</q></p><p>No, it gets easier, because they don't have to fight over the basics. National just legitimized capital gains tax, and child poverty moves. Now they can say "too little, too late, we're more compassionate". </p><p><q> Why go for diet coke when you…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:21:21 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>There are three ways of seeing the political outcome of this budget for Labour. Given that it looks like a compassionate budget at first glance, with devils that might still lurk in the details, the initial impression is that it's taken a number of ideas from Labour policy.</p><p>If you…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:16:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Palethorpe</title>
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						<p>You're right about Labour being far too hatstand as a potential Government in 2014, it's clear from National adopting their policies that the ideas were good and necessary for the country.</p><p>The need for difference comes down to the choice voters will have. Labour look slightly more together than seven…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 12:09:33 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Agree with Bart, but pessimistic about that happening.</p><p>If the problem is identified as "strategy" or "policy" or "communication" then Labour MPs can persuade themselves that they are tackling it.</p><p>But when the problem is "Labour MPs", then Labour MPs are the last people to see it, or do anything…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 11:37:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>They need clear policy to differentiate themselves from National</q></p><p>Why?</p><p>Look I don't want Labour to be different for the sake of being different. If National have a good policy I want Labour to support it &ndash; sure suggest ways it could be better but don't simply oppose everything because…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 11:23:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						<p>Excellent interview of Helen Kelly by Kathryn Ryan on Radio NZ just before. Lots of ideas for progress.<br /><a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201755433/union-boss&#039;s-battle-for-workers-and-personal-battle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/201755433/union-boss&#039;s-battle-for-workers-and-personal-battle</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 10:56:01 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>John Palethorpe</title>
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						<p>Strategically, this is bad news for Labour. Their policies have been National'd, which means that despite the furore, they're going to have to accept that their clear dividing lines on policy are now merely a discussion about the extent of National policy. </p><p>What do Labour do? They need clear policy…</p>
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						Usually Ministers of Disability Issues gather all the disability-related issues in the Budget for a press release. But Nicky Wagner's only talks about one policy &ndash; more money for Very High Needs ORS students leaving school &ndash; up to a hundred students for each of the next three years. This…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 09:37:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>very smart politics. Tacking to the centre leaving Labour no policy room – but also leaves them looking out of ideas, bleating helplessly about economic growth. I smell a 4th term :(</q></p><p>+1</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 08:10:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Still seen no media story that analyses the package in enough detail. What's the split between welfare and WFF? What scenarios did MSD calculate to arrive at the Budget headline figure?</p><p>RNZ addresses <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/274292/benefits-boosted-but-costs-up-too" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">one factor</a> that cuts the '$25'.</p><p><q>But Darryl Evans, the chief executive of the Mangere Budgeting Services…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 08:09:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						Adding a (watered down) CGT when Labour looks like having abandoned it as well as a cheap (240m is tiny) boost to benefits is very smart politics. Tacking to the centre leaving Labour no policy room – but also leaves them looking out of ideas, bleating helplessly about economic growth.…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2015 07:35:35 +1200</pubDate>
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						<p>Anyone know how many families on benefits will actually receive the full $25 per week? Haven't been able to find any information on this so far. </p><p>Would also be possible to calculate what the average family will receive if anyone knows how much is budgeted per year for this specific…</p>
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				<title>Hilary Stace</title>
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						I think I will wait for a bit more detail to see exactly what a beneficiary will get extra next year when these changes come in. There are so many ifs and buts around it already that I wouldn't be surprised if only a few people, such as those without…
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 22:57:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>What it really is is a kick in the teeth to Labour. They haven’t been a party friendly to or favouring beneficiaries since the 70s.</q></p><p>They still made friendly noises as recently as the 80s. Back then, the DSW sent out facsimile missives to its clients signed by Ann Hercus,…</p>
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						<p><q>What it really is is a kick in the teeth to Labour.</q></p><p>Yes, nine long years. And won't their reaction tomorrow be interesting ..</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p>Yes, saw on Twitter. Add what I'm talking about to that. And now someone's saying that the obligations may kick in earlier than the extra $25 does. Will check it out.</p><p>Here's Blinglish <a href="http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/201755317/bill-english-explains-benefict-increase-of-25-dollars-a-week" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">being challenged</a> by Mary Wilson on RNZ Checkpoint.</p>
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				<title>Rob Stowell</title>
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						<p>$25  a week is not likely raise many families out of poverty. I’m torn between saying it’s a token bone thrown – and admitting that for some it will surely make a positive difference. <br />What it really is is a kick in the teeth to Labour. They haven’t been a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 21:16:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						<p>Here’s some of the type of analysis you’re looking for:</p><p>__As usual, however, the devil was tucked away in the detail.  Although many low income families will benefit from the increases to Working for families tax credits (“WFTC”) from 1 April 2016 the sting in the tail is an 5.9%…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 18:54:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>But! But! </p><p> This guy reckons....<a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/68755709/a-budget-for-the-battler-family-on-struggle-street" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/68755709/a-budget-for-the-battler-family-on-struggle-street</a></p><p>that...</p><p>"National's $790 million family hardship package is unquestionably the poster-child of Budget 2015, a far-reaching financial top-up that few pundits foresaw."</p><p>So there!</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						Haven't seen any pundits discuss this wrinkle yet: compulsory part-time hours worked by beneficiaries goes up by 5 hours. Because of savage abatement rates on every dollar earned, I wonder how much of the headline $25 benefit increase will remain? Someone in MSD/Treasury must have modelled it.
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						<a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11452541" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Herald's interactive</a>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 17:28:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>izogi</title>
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						I can't be bothered reading details. Does anyone have pointers to any nice, colourful visualisations?
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						And you'll notice a large number of <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11433122" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">articles in the NZ Herald</a> of limited interest to a general audience (one would have thought) and with a definite slant in favour of buying the expensive US product. Not that the paper might have been induced at some level to take this line,…
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				<title>Kumara Republic</title>
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						<p><q>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11452450</p><p>Ponies and balloons.</q></p><p>Those video livestreams don't have <strong>any</strong> playback controls at all. And I'm running the latest Flash too.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:39:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p><q>the NZ On Air board warned that it could not maintain services </q></p><p>Isn't this a bit like putting a 'Kick Me' sign on one's own arse?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:24:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Rosemary McDonald</title>
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						<p>So, from Vote Health....<a href="http://www.budget.govt.nz/budget/pdfs/estimates/v6/est15-v6-health.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.budget.govt.nz/budget/pdfs/estimates/v6/est15-v6-health.pdf</a></p><p>"Current and Past Policy Initiatives'</p><p>Family Caregivers   2014/15  $23 million,  same yearly amount projected through to 2019....YET...the uptake of this dog of a scheme has been less than 10%.</p><p>SO...where the hell is the unspent millions????</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:21:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Public Broadcasting Services funding cut for the seventh straight year. Down 1.3% to $129.5m. This after the NZ On Air board warned that it could not maintain services on this basis.
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:10:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>william blake</title>
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						<p><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11452450" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&amp;objectid=11452450</a></p><p>Ponies and balloons.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 15:09:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I heard it was ponytails ...</q></p><p>Dammit where is the like button?</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 14:30:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Steve Curtis</title>
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						<p><q>The other big question for me: will the NZDF get $400m+ to buy new jetplanes? (C-17 or A400 heavy freight vehicles).</q></p><p>Question answered. YES. But details not announced but cloaked  as  being for  for defence commitments and  humanitarian aid. Need more money later as this is probably only a first…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 14:20:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Brent Jackson</title>
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						I heard it was ponytails ...
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				<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2015 14:16:27 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p><q>I can’t disclose my source, but we’re all getting ponies.</q></p><p>Small typo there &ndash; I think you meant 'pennies'</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						<p><q>Hungry spies are a dangerous thing. Feed em, I say.</q></p><p>Meat pies and Penthouses all round!</p>
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				<title>Alan Perrott</title>
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						I can't disclose my source, but we're all getting ponies.
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						Hungry spies are a dangerous thing. Feed em, I say.
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				<title>Katharine Moody</title>
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						I heard a prediction the spies are gonna get a budget increase given we all know that terrorism is a greater threat to social cohesion than hunger.
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p>Is this a ‘climate change budget’, or a ‘child poverty budget’? My early guess is that it isn’t, but that there will be small ($1-10m) token initiatives in either.</p><p>The other big question for me: will the NZDF get $400m+ to buy new jetplanes? (C-17 or A400 heavy freight vehicles).</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						Hi guys – I’m busy with the day job today – and this year Keith’s doing his data thing for NBR, who will pay him with actual money. So consider this an open thread and make of it what you will.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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