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				<title>Martin Lindberg</title>
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						<p>Why dope your body when you can dope your bike?</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE</a></p>
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				<title>81stcolumn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I looked up a couple of Italian sites and there's no mention of auto-transfusions being dangerous.</p></blockquote><p>I spoke to some colleagues about this and the following points were made.</p><p>There are basic risks to be associated with any form of blood transfusion, even under medical supervision.  As the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDM_%28cycling_team%29|1991 PDM…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:41:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Gareth Davidson</title>
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						<p>However it was that same "loser" (AS) who went in to a TV interview with AC (who apologised for what he'd done) and <a href="http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-and-schleck-make-up-on-french-tv " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">told the crowd to shut up and stop booing Contador</a>. </p><p>Define: kiss and make up.</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:37:33 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						<p>Contador has gear problems (knackered wheel) on the cobblestones and Schleck builds a 30-second lead on that leg. No one complains.</p><p>Shleck knackers his own chain pushing too hard and Contador gets back the 30 seconds he lost. Everyone complains.</p><p>Clear now?</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:04:37 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I looked up a couple of Italian sites and there's no mention of auto-transfusions being dangerous. EPO is supposed to be quite dangerous for the reasons you highlighted.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:47:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Mordaunt</title>
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						Giovanni, I'm not sure either- I think the terms are sometimes used interchangeably in the press, and I can't find anything which says their deaths were definitively attributed to anything- perhaps the local privacy laws prohibit this?
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				<title>Sue</title>
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						<p>So there you go Jann Ulrich  &amp; Armstrong in the same tour waited.</p><p><br />I don't think Contador listens to many people, he didn't last year when  Armstrong was in the team, but then i suspect having Armstrong come into your team would piss anyone off.</p><p>but really one post about cycling…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:16:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						I stand corrected &ndash; I thought the suspect in those deaths was EPO and not the athletes' own blood.
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:15:05 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Dylan Mordaunt</title>
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						<p>As regards blood doping, asides from the whole 'cheating' perspective, there have been allegations since the 70's that the deaths of many international athletes, particularly cyclists, can be attributed to either <a href="http://www.wada-ama.org/en/About-WADA/History/A-Brief-History-of-Anti-Doping/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">autologous transfusions or synthetic erythropoeitin (EPO)</a>. </p><p>Between 1987, when EPO became available in Europe, and 1990, 18 Dutch and…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:12:24 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						<p>Here's what happend when Armstrong crashed in the 2003 tour. Worked out OK for him!</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxGNttpaZA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxGNttpaZA</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:25:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>FletcherB</title>
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						I thought it was pronounced Al-bert ?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:23:20 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>(it's pronounced poo-holes)</p></blockquote><p>Nope. Try poo-hols, although I see how it would spoil the slur.</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is no one going to mention underarm bowling then?</p></blockquote><p>Barry Bonds was slowed considerably when going for his (TAINTEDBYCHEATING) home run record, by pitchers simply not pitching to him. Other great hitters, like Albert (it's pronounced poo-holes) Pujols, find the same thing. A walk isn't as bad as a HR…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:12:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Is no one going to mention underarm bowling then?</p></blockquote><p>I was hoping not, but you ruined it...</p>
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				<title>Jeremy Andrew</title>
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						Is no one going to mention underarm bowling then?
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>More to the point, it meant he could stand there behind the stumps righteously asking batsmen 'why didn't ya walk? You know you were out' for hours and hours. Real gamesmanship.</p></blockquote><p>And potentially walk when he knew it wouldn't matter (game was already in the bag or impossible to win),…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:16:15 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It didn't stop him appealing for catches or LBWs he clearly knew weren't out in the field, nor did it guarentee he'd walk &ndash; "I wasn't sure I hit it, so I stayed where I was," etc.</p></blockquote><p>More to the point, he made sure everyone knew he did it, so…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>So is Paula Radcliffe taking a pit stop in the middle of two different marathons.</p><p>EDIT: <em>this was regarding urination during sports on TV. It seemed a little out of context up here.</em></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:09:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						The image of Jerry Collins giving it a last couple of shakes before kick-off is, regrettably, burned into my mind.
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Possibly due to the fact that depiction of urophilia is specifically illegal in New Zealand.</p></blockquote><p>The films, videos and publications classification act doesn't apply to television. Which isn't to say there wouldn't be a broadcasting standards breach, but you can't go so far as to say the depiction is specifically…</p>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						Re: sportsmanship,  you can use it to your advantage &ndash; for instance, I always felt Gilchrist's public stance that he'd walk if he felt he was out was a complicated series of mindgames. It didn't stop him appealing for catches or LBWs he clearly knew weren't out in the field,…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Urophilia ain't the same thing as peeing. Don't tell me it's illegal to show peeing.
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>v</p><blockquote><p>though [riders whizzing in their Lycra] is very<br />rarely televised</p></blockquote><p>Possibly due to the fact that depiction of urophilia is specifically illegal in New Zealand.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						If a rule is there, then exploiting it is generally fair game. Being a sportsman is a fine thing and people will admire that in itself, but ignoring it will win games and professionals are paid to do that. Most people watching are amateurs, though, and highly respect sportsmanship, so…
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And we'll get more fecking fingerbangs.</p></blockquote><p>Oh my gosh <a href="http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/</a> is wonderful. Thanks for the link!</p><p>Re autoheamobloodification or whatever, I smell a business opportunity: transfusion stations partway along Auckland's north-western motorway bike route.</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<p>The unwritten laws of sport add another layer to the rich tapestry of sport. It's another way in which today's players and fans are connected to the history of the game.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/3939274/Broken-an-unwritten-law-Then-you-ll-be-tried-in-the-court-of-sporting-opinion" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Stuff</a> carries a bit of a discussion (cribbed from the SMH), listing a few that have, and do exist.…</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I don't think you really need a particularly sound reason for making a rule against something in a sport. So long as there's a rule, there you go. That's the sport. I expect the rules against living off blood bags during a race would be because widespread usage would bring…
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						I, for one, would like to see the All Blacks injecting themselves with their own blood at half time on dressing room cam instead of making all those pointless substitutions. But for a bit of plasma, we could have had more Piri on Saturday night.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						The technical reason why autohaemotrasnfusion is considered doping is that it's a medical procedure whose only objective is to improve performance. Even though it doesn't carry significant health risks, it puts all competitors in a position of having to do it in order not to be at a disadvantage. Good…
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f**k the prom queen!"</p></blockquote><p>That was the quote I was trying to remember when I wrote this.</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But, you know: it's YOUR blood. What's the rationale behind stopping people doing this?<br />Good taste?</p></blockquote><p>Agreed, gross. </p><p>Also this: the tour is, technically only I suppose, a test of your endurance and ability over the days as you try and cycle about France faster than the other guys. If…</p>
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				<title>Adrian Wills</title>
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						<p>I agree with Losers moan about sportsmanship thing. To bring up a good quote from a mediocre movie...</p><p>"Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and f**k the prom queen!"<br /> &ndash; Sean Connery, The Rock.</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>. But, you know: it's YOUR blood. What's the rationale behind stopping people doing this?</p></blockquote><p>Good taste?</p>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						<p>Is this the *first* Field Theory cycling post? :)</p><p>Quite separately from whether Contador obeyed the old gentleman's rules or not (and in fairness, there was no guarantee that the 3rd and 4th placed riders Sanchez and Menchov were about to sit up and wait for Schleck either), the thing…</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						Of course I read all of it.  The problem is, there's a tension between the requirement to keep left, and the requirement to not be ridden into the gutter.  You'll note that there's also an admonition not to ride in the door zone, which is clearly in some conflict with…
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				<title>Whoops</title>
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						<p>Yes yes, must adhere to unwritten rules about not taking advantage of a competitors poor equipment selection/mechanical sympathy/competence... it's just not on, and I'd hate to win because I 'cheated'.</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>Now, where did I leave those performance enhancing drugs?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>There is nothing anywhere in the road code that obliges cyclists to pull aside for other vehicles (except the stuff about emergency services vehicles that applies to everyone). And trust me, the road shoulder around the south coast road is pretty dodgy if you're on a road bike.</p></blockquote><p>Did you…</p>
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				<title>3410</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Sportsmanship is a layer we place over sport to make it less ruthless.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry, but that's rubbish.</p><p>That said, I can't see what the problem is with Contador. What was he supposed to do; sacrifice some of his lead from the <em>other</em> hundred guys behind him?</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>It's interesting that the unwritten rules that are being talked about at present are the 'gentleman' type rules &ndash; kick the football out, don't run out that guy in cricket, don't attack in cycling when a guy is fixing his bike.</p><p>There's a whole 'nother set of unwritten rules which…</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Still, if he lost any blood he can just inject some more at the end of the stage.</p></blockquote><p>To pick up on this:  I've never understood the ban on homologous blood doping in cycling.  For those of you who don't know, this is the practice of transfusing some of your…</p>
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				<title>BlairMacca</title>
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						<p>In the interests of not starting a cycle vs car war I will only say that it is common sense to only ride one abreast and to pull in when a wide shoulder opens up to let a long stream of traffic open up.  I will leave it there.</p><p>To…</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<p>Don't get me started on unwritten rules. The stupid "let's kick it out when someone falls over" unwritten rule cost West Ham the 2006 FA Cup final. </p><p>Even worse, I'm pretty sure it was Steven Gerrard rolling around on the ground in the final minute of the game. The Hammers…</p>
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Its also an unwritten (or possibly written) rule that cyclists pull into the shoulder of the road around the south coast, but you don' see many following that....</p></blockquote><p>No, that'd be unwritten.  Because the written rules are:</p><blockquote><p>If the road is too narrow to safely allow vehicles to pass, you…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						Oh I agree Voigt sounds like a fuckin hardman. Still, if he lost any blood he can just inject some more at the end of the stage.
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						<p>Jens Voigt is a legend.  </p><p>That is all.</p>
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				<title>BlairMacca</title>
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						Its also an unwritten (or possibly written) rule that cyclists pull into the shoulder of the road around the south coast, but you don' see many following that....
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				<title>Ben Gracewood</title>
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						For me it's the unwritten rules of a Grant Tour that make it all the more interesting. Every year there's some new intriguing fact about how a team works to slow down a breakaway or a rider hitting the wall because he didn't eat eleventybillion calories in the right way.…
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				<title>JackElder</title>
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						Even within cycling, there's a lot of debate about this.  For example, there used to be a certain etiquette about toilet breaks on long stages &ndash; the whole peleton would dismount en masse and sort it out, basically, and if you made an attack at that point, you might win…
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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