<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>




<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title>Public Address | Cafe | Field Theory: When First is Worst</title>
		<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/</link>
		<atom:link rel="self" href="https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/rss/" type="application/rss+xml"/>
		
		<description><![CDATA[A talking shop where we put the questions and our community illuminates the issues.]]></description>
			<language>en-us</language>
			<copyright>Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address</copyright>
			

		
			<item>
				<title>LegBreak</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136820#post136820</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136820#post136820</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>So was this shield match the lowest scoring shield match ever? Or was it the lowest scoring shield match where the defender has lost the log o' wood?</p></blockquote><p>In the 1950s a score-line of 9-3 would be considered a bit of a blow-out.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:25:22 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Naly D</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136818#post136818</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136818#post136818</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>I do like that suggestion. Currently any team that goes down will struggle to make it back up because they'll be moving down to an amateur division.</p></blockquote><p>The rumours coming from the NZRU office [unsubstantiated at this stage] suggest the top-tier of ANZC is to have its salary cap lowered…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:15:43 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136814#post136814</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136814#post136814</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>This is why i'm so keen on 8 &amp; 8 as I think it really does solve all the bigger issues:</p></blockquote><p>I do like that suggestion. Currently any team that goes down will struggle to make it back up because they'll be moving down to an amateur division.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:38:35 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Naly D</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136813#post136813</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136813#post136813</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Another thing &ndash; the ANZC final last year was the lowest-scoring provincial final ever, right?</p><p>So was this shield match the lowest scoring shield match ever? Or was it the lowest scoring shield match where the defender has lost the log o' wood?</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:25:38 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136787#post136787</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136787#post136787</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Manawatu haven't made a loss &ndash; they've signed young players on basic salaries and developed them through the academy at Massey, and saved the surplus [according to Jason O'Halloran].</p></blockquote><p>Weird, given others are making big losses why are Manawatu at threat then?  Hasn't Canterbury lost $700k this year?</p><p>More and…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:50:50 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Naly D</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136784#post136784</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136784#post136784</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>It's been so good to support a union which could not possibly have been relegated [Lions] so I can see the misinformation and bickering going on between unions and fans.</p><p>First off:</p><blockquote><p>Teams like B.o.P, Manawatu &amp; Tasman are coming out of the fiscal hole they dug themselves now only to…</p></blockquote>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:18:40 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Yamis</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136763#post136763</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136763#post136763</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote>Weirdly given the above, i'm more in favour of dropping 6 teams than 4 and creating a proper 2nd division of 8 teams with automatic promotion relegation of 2 teams every year. As the NZRU i'd demand all 4 premier division games be televised, and a minimum of two thirds…</blockquote>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:07:03 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Yamis</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136762#post136762</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136762#post136762</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Instead, they prevaricated and jacked up a system to ensure than none of the big cities miss out. My view has always been that if you can't, say, get 5,000 fans to Albany then why should Bay of Plenty who get 10,000 to every game be relegated?</p></blockquote><p>The BOP averaged…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:25:49 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Yamis</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136761#post136761</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136761#post136761</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Yamis &ndash; Your thinking reflects what the NZRFU thinks, and to my mind it is hopelessly out of touch with the realities of NZ rugby traditions and culture. The game might be suffering in the massively over-exposed rugby markets of the main centres, but it isn't in the provinces.</p></blockquote><p>Tom,…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:12:46 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136737#post136737</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136737#post136737</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Mr Semmens sir, I couldn't agree more.</p><p>The priorities are pretty weird when you think about it.</p><p>Super 14/5 &ndash; 5 NZ teams, loses NZRU $3m annually (ok, I have no reference to back that up, its just what I read somewhere else, possibly dropkicks.co.nz).  Gets expanded to 8 games…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:17 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136727#post136727</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136727#post136727</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Thanks Auckland! We thrashed you by almost fifty and still do us a favour at the end of the season. </p><p>Hawke's Bay are peaking at the right end of the season and I, for one, am smacking my lips at the chance to humiliate an All-Blackless Canterbury at home in…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:25:41 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tony Parker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136725#post136725</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136725#post136725</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						Today the whole of Hawkes Bay says thank you Auckland. But only for a day.
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:25:48 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Yamis</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136723#post136723</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136723#post136723</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Lets be honest.</p><p>The rugby is awful, the talent too watered down, the mediocre players paid too much.  Many of these guys are second division footballers on a good day and the first division of historically the best rugby playing nation in the world deserves more than a competition that…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:57:36 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Jimmy Southgate</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136706#post136706</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136706#post136706</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>I think for me there are a few disappointing things about culling the Premier Division.</p><p>1)  They're basing their decision on the last 3 years of the competition, when it would seem that its only this year that teams have found the right balance in spending etc.  Teams like B.o.P,…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:50:15 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Grant McDougall</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136698#post136698</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136698#post136698</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>Steve Tew being interviewed</p></blockquote><p>I wince every time I see and hear that man being interviewed. He has an over-whelming propensity for speaking managementese and gobbledegook to such an extent that he makes David Brent look reasonable.</p><p>He cannot complete a sentence without inserting "going forward, "moving on", etc, into…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:50:42 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tony Parker</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136626#post136626</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136626#post136626</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote>In my opinion what made the competition so good this year could be seen last night: the All Blacks not being removed. Look at the performance of Wellington, Auckland, Waikato and Canterbury when their top players were taken away (or not played). Suddenly league-wide parity was achieved. Some teams were…</blockquote>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:25:24 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>philipmatthews</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136610#post136610</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136610#post136610</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<blockquote><p>That is the beauty of the provincial championship--you can support other, geographically distant teams.</p></blockquote><p>What's the line: I support Waikato and anyone playing Canterbury?</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:45:39 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>LegBreak</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136609#post136609</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136609#post136609</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Nothing wrong with cutting the numbers from 14 to 10 per se.</p><p>It’s the disingenuous way they’re going about it that’s the problem.</p><p>In 99% of competitions around the world they use the novel concept of the bottom teams going down.  Leaving nothing to the shadowy hand of a central…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:44:23 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136604#post136604</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136604#post136604</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>That is the beauty of the provincial championship--you can support other, geographically distant teams.  Waikato have been a bit fragile  (and often disappointing) this year but might sneak into the semis, especially if Alan De M leads the way.  </p><p>When I was just a sprout, my dad took me to…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:28:43 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Danielle</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136592#post136592</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136592#post136592</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						I have some great colour slides (now jpegs) of my family being gleeful the last time Southland won the Ranfurly Shield &ndash; my grandparents even travelled to Taranaki to support the Southland team (who, um, lost the Shield again after one game). My grandfather, now perilously close to 91 years…
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:47:40 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136590#post136590</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136590#post136590</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>I saw Steve Tew being interviewed on telly the other night, and the sums of money he was talking about to keep the ANZC viable were actually quite small &ndash; about four million a year. </p><p>If we were to give the Japanese the RWC and stick the 200 million or…</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:36:26 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
			<item>
				<title>Public Address</title>
				<link>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136589#post136589</link>
				<guid>https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-when-first-is-worst/?p=136589#post136589</guid>
				<description><![CDATA[
						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
					]]></description>
				<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:36:26 +1300</pubDate>
			</item>
		
	</channel>
</rss>
