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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And what about the people who come along late/at half time? Or complimentary ticket holders?</p></blockquote><p>I think I've already answered that. A condition of the tickets is that you turn up by a certain time or you may miss out.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:21:12 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Naly D</title>
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						<blockquote>Clearly there would never be tens of thousands of empty seats to fill, you'd only do it on full house games, and it would only be a few hundred tickets. And last time I went to a stadium the ticketing was controlled by bar codes and computers. At a certain…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:06:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Naly D</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hmmmmm... the WRFU loses $500,000 and the HBRFU makes a (modest) profit of $18,0000. Who are geniuses here again? Where should the NZRFU be looking for coaches and ideas for how to save professional rugby in the lower North Island again?<br />Jesus, Wellington and the Hissycanes can't even compete with…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 13:56:07 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote>It's just never going to work though. From a logistical point of view it would be a diabolical nightmare. It's not an aircraft seating a few hundred with one point of entry. It's a stadium with half a dozen points of entry and if it's a big game with a…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:43:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						It's just never going to work though.  From a logistical point of view it would be a diabolical nightmare.  It's not an aircraft seating a few hundred with one point of entry.  It's a stadium with half a dozen points of entry and if it's a big game with a…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:31:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Fact is though that the season ticket holders have bought those tickets.</p></blockquote><p>Hence my suggestion that you'd need to change the nature of the tickets, and discount them a little further.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:18:09 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						Maybe they should page people outside the ground "Would Eric Bloggs, please make your way to your seat now, the game is about to really fucking take off".
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:41:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						Fact is though that the season ticket holders have bought those tickets.  So they've already got money for them and a right of paying for a season ticket should be to not go if you don't want to or to turn up when you like.  Good luck telling a season…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:39:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Exactly. You could reduce the price on your season tickets a little to compensate for the fact that they can't turn up halfway through a game, and still make money on the deal.</p><p>Turning people away from a venue where they are empty seats is illogical.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:36:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>Wasn’t the area for Liverpool fans oversold?  I know that wasn’t the only factor, but I thought it was in the mix.</p><p>Not sure what the answer with season ticket holders is.  It amazed me that for the final Phoenix match there were tickets going for $100 on TradeMe yet…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:40:35 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Hillsborough</p></blockquote><p>Well I'm not suggesting letting more people into the venue than it can hold. But if a condition of your season ticket is that you turn up within 10 minutes of kickoff, they could then second sell those tickets to walk ups. It seems foolish to have seats empty…</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 10:35:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Hmmmmm... the WRFU loses $500,000 and the HBRFU makes a (modest) profit of $18,0000. Who are geniuses here again? Where should the NZRFU be looking for coaches and ideas for how to save professional rugby in the lower North Island again?</p><p>Jesus, Wellington and the Hissycanes can't even compete with…</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 21:39:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder why sports venues don't do like airlines and oversell some events?</p></blockquote><p>Hillsborough</p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:50:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>That post yesterday was good timing.</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/3556101/Revenue-drop-key-factor-in-500-000-loss" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/3556101/Revenue-drop-key-factor-in-500-000-loss</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 09:45:21 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>Hurricanes crowd averages in recent seasons<br />2006: 26796<br />2007: 22541<br />2008: 18122<br />2009: 14925<br />2010: 13677</p><p>So basically they have halved in four years.  Must represent a drop of about $1 million in revenue using some basic calculations.  Mind you, it would have to halve again and then some to…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:50:26 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						Safety rules, possibly, and assigned seating?
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:06:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I watched the recording on MYSKY last night and there were grey seats fucking EVERYWHERE. Not just the 'oh I'll go for a piss' kind of smatterings, these were clumps of 20 or so in the middle of stands full of people. I was so fucked off.</p></blockquote><p>Season ticket holders?…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:59:17 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Naly D</title>
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						<blockquote>So the non achieving rock stars of the Hissycanes don't like getting dealt to by the hard men from the franchise provinces? Well boo-hoo to them. That sort of whiney attitude is the exactly the reason the Hurricanes seek fufillment in makeup, stupid haircuts and on field insolence instead of…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 16:43:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						There were no stoppages and the official clock hit 80mins just before the TMO play
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:30:29 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>It only happens in games that have strict rules about stopping the clock when the ball is not in play. Rugby doesn't have that. Soccer has it even less. I have a feeling the games would last longer if they instituted that rule.</p></blockquote><p>Rugby used to be loose with the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:32:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>On crowds I've crunched the numbers...<br />Blues got 17,700, which is a sellout I hear (above), they did get 23,000 for their opening game v the Hurricanes at NH stadium though.</p><p>Hurricanes had 19,777 which according to the radio commentators was the worst crowd for a Hurricanes &ndash; Crusaders clash…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:53:06 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<p>For `dealt to' read `randomly assaulted'; very few people like getting punched during sports games.</p><p>If you want to be Millwall, nobody will like you. Deal with it &amp; don't be surprised when other people don't want anything to do with you.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:07:38 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Russell isn't liked by the players in Wellington</p></blockquote><p>So the non achieving rock stars of the Hissycanes don't like getting dealt to by the hard men from the franchise provinces? Well boo-hoo to them. That sort of whiney attitude is the exactly the reason the Hurricanes seek fufillment in makeup,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:36:14 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Naly D</title>
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						<blockquote>I can't believe that the same Wellington closed shop who have foisted the useless Colin Cooper on us for years were able to appoint a complete outsider (the "up and coming" Mark Hammett if you believe the sycophantic poodles of the Wellington media) and ignore the the two fabuolus up…</blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 13:12:46 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I more or less held out to Easter with my "no rugby until Easter and no rugby after November" rule, although I did get free tickets to watch the Blues beat the Brumbies.</p><p>The Hurricanes are dissolute, lackadasical and unwilling to work hard except when they realise &ndash; to late…</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:40:31 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						<blockquote><p>... meaning that it's probably shown overseas ...</p></blockquote><p>Some enterprising journalist might wish to actually find out if this campaign is intended to be shown here <em>and</em> internationally.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:31:39 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						What if somebody is injured?
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				<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 12:22:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						Field Hockey doesn't stop the clock when the ball goes out of play and they blow for full time dead on the 35 minute mark at the end of each half.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						It only happens in games that have strict rules about stopping the clock when the ball is not in play. Rugby doesn't have that. Soccer has it even less. I have a feeling the games would last longer if they instituted that rule.
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						Personally I'm not a great rugby follower so I can't understand how a game that's supposed to last 80 minutes carries on for another 3 or 4 and often changing the result. Why not blow the whistle at 80 just like other sports.
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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