Public Address | Cafe | Field Theory: Wait for it... https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Ian Llewellyn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=134114#post134114 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=134114#post134114 I think Hadyn your friend meant it is not ``all'' about goals.

Sometimes I feel like I'm trying to explain colours to the blind when talking about football to someone who has only ever watched rugby.

Neither game is better than the other, they are just games with different rules.…

]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:19:47 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133563#post133563 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133563#post133563 After uroskin said:

2 x 45 minutes of orgasm denial is called "edging"

Keir said this:

an edgy 2-1 win

Then I giggled childishly

]]> Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:26:31 +1300 Keir Leslie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133515#post133515 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133515#post133515 Angus, you aren't seriously promoting Arsenal as an nice team as opposed to that nasty diving Man U are you?

Because Eduardo da Silva's got a wee cannon on his shirt & it was Wenger that claimed that it was all a Scotch mafia at uefa that were agin him.

The…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:36:22 +1300 uroskin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133485#post133485 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133485#post133485 edging" ]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:41:48 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133469#post133469 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133469#post133469

Cricket only gets that exciting at the end of a game, and rugby never gets that exciting.

Yes it does, don't be silly. Against Australia, last year, we're down by more than three. the clock is counting down fast, and the All Blacks were pushing for the line. The crowd…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:07:39 +1300 Chockasunday https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133454#post133454 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133454#post133454 Sunday's Phoenix game was the worst I have seen them play (at least since the last worst time!)
Normally it's much more exciting than that.

When I'm watching, I want to see goals.
The outpouring of emotion when your team scores is amazing.
Cricket only gets that exciting at the…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:04:11 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133396#post133396 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133396#post133396

People who exist solely to win

Yeah, I fucking hate those athletes who play to win the game. :)

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:17:01 +1300 Angus Robertson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133384#post133384 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133384#post133384

On this basis I recommend that the sport do away with the goals all together if the setup is so beautiful.

By keeping the goals they also manage to attract another sort of fan, those who by some defect are incapable of appreciating beauty of the game or simply unwilling…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:50:39 +1300 Peter Darlington https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133372#post133372 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133372#post133372 As a West Ham fan can I just say Bollocks! We want goals and we need 'em quick :) (At the oppo's end as well, just to clarify)

It is possible to have an entertaining 0-0 game but not often, most of them are crap. Likewise, if a game heads…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:22:23 +1300 Megan Wegan https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133371#post133371 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133371#post133371

The Azzurri would need new uniforms too

And it would settle that argument we had about whether women or men are better at artistic gymnastics.

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:21:09 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133368#post133368 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133368#post133368

Actually, if they did away with the ball and gave every player a long twirly ribbon on a stick, then it would definitely be the 'beautiful game'.

The Azzurri would need new uniforms too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRQlgv31R9Y

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:58:47 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133363#post133363 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133363#post133363

It's like 11-man rhythmic gymnastics.

Actually, if they did away with the ball and gave every player a long twirly ribbon on a stick, then it would definitely be the 'beautiful game'.

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:13:24 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133362#post133362 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133362#post133362

Argentina, coached by Diego Maradona, could miss out on qualifying for the World Cup, while New Zealand, coached by somebody, could get there.

Simon I think you confuse the game with the tournament set-up. Because while little old NZ could make it to the World Cup, when we play Brazil…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:08:38 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133361#post133361 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133361#post133361

How flowing artistic interpassing, spacing and a good mobile midfeild can find room in even a strong defence to set up a shot – its beautiful to watch.

On this basis I recommend that the sport do away with the goals all together if the setup is so beautiful.

It's…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:05:25 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133360#post133360 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133360#post133360

How flowing artistic interpassing, spacing and a good mobile midfeild can find room in even a strong defence to set up a shot – its beautiful to watch.

On this basis I recommend that the sport do away with the goals all together if the setup is so beautiful.

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:59:47 +1300 Angus Robertson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133359#post133359 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133359#post133359

He said, "it's not about the goals".

How flowing artistic interpassing, spacing and a good mobile midfeild can find room in even a strong defence to set up a shot – its beautiful to watch. It doesn't matter if the shot goes in or misses, so denial is not the…

]]> Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:53:29 +1300 simon g https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133346#post133346 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133346#post133346 Football is interesting, for the same simple reason that most Ranfurly Shield games, Black Caps opening partnerships and Arnold Schwarzenegger movies are not interesting.

You don't know the result.

The All Blacks pool games at the Rugby World Cup are not interesting. The All Blacks knockout games are far too…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:12:00 +1300 Don Christie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133336#post133336 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133336#post133336

Arsenal have a team that plays beautiful flowing football; Man U win.

Oh come now. Arsenal Trade Marked eeking out boring 1-0 wins for over 100 years. Are you denying them their destiny?

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:58:16 +1300 Edward Siddle https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133324#post133324 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133324#post133324 Nah, can't really agree with the theory. The clapping isn't contentment, it is encouragement – "yeah, more of that boys, but next time score please" is the message.

There's a bit in Fever Pitch (mentioned above) where Hornby discusses whether in a game where your team gets lots of goals,…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:27:41 +1300 LegBreak https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133318#post133318 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133318#post133318 For a great football book, and it has more than its fair share of them, try The Damned United by former Guardian journalist David Peace.

About Clough's 44 days "in charge" of Leeds. Seriously good reading.

Half of it written in the 2nd person too.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:39:41 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133311#post133311 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133311#post133311

Football is all about the denial of orgasm.

It ocurrs to me that there is one fatal flaw in your 'denial' theory: How many blokes do you know who can play, if you'll excuse the expression, 'keepie-uppie' for 90 mins?

Anyway, everyone knows footy is really all about [[http://www.viz.co.uk/newstrip.html
|beating…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:21:31 +1300 Angus Robertson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133310#post133310 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133310#post133310

This is what football fans crave, being constantly brought to the edge of celebration and then having that cruelly denied to them.

Arsenal have a team that plays beautiful flowing football; Man U win.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:17:06 +1300 Dan Slevin https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133306#post133306 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133306#post133306

People in charge of music at matches have long forgotten that crowds of excited, engaged and drunk sports fans don't need a DJ to create atmosphere.

I don't think it's people in charge of music – it's just Mark McLeod. And he's on a nice little earner.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:02:52 +1300 Richard Irvine https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133303#post133303 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133303#post133303 Russell, NZ Rugby or Cricket crowds are never, ever allowed to chant, as they have 'Why does love do this to me' or 'Pokerface' blasted at 110db anytime there's a break in play.

By the time the music stops, you can *hear* the stunned silence.

People in charge of music…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:23:29 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133301#post133301 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133301#post133301

Hey Kyle. You might want to comment on this too (I apologise in advance)

Your beating will come later.

Ice hockey is not a good sport to translate into games I think. I have NHL 04 for the playstation, which is OK, but I wouldn't ever try and put pressure…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:13:47 +1300 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133300#post133300 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133300#post133300 I have occasionally suggested to proper football fans that if two skilled teams can go 90 (or, Lord forbid 120) minutes without achieving the purported aim of the game, then perhaps the rules need tweaking. It never goes down well.

But I think the denial-of-orgasm thing has some other effects.…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:05:45 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133299#post133299 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133299#post133299

Subtle photograph choice there

Satirical UK magazine Viz has a regular feature called (ahem) 'up the arse corner'. Which usually contains a photo just like that one.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:03:09 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133295#post133295 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133295#post133295 on this too (I apologise in advance) ]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:34:12 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133293#post133293 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133293#post133293 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:29:06 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133291#post133291 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133291#post133291

the odd moment when they score a beautiful or significant or beautifully significant goal. See...

Did you know that video starts with a guy holding his crotch? :)

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:23:21 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133290#post133290 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133290#post133290

Subtle photograph choice there.

Yeah, Mike takes a bunch of great photos and I choose the joke one.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:20:39 +1300 Richard Irvine https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133288#post133288 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133288#post133288 A pithy football beatdown there, I hadn't considered the catholic angle :)

Reminds me of one time me and a friend were watching Chelsea v Milan in the champions league on the telly in the company of 3-4 (Kiwi) rugby fans. Finished 0-0. At full time me and friend both…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:16:00 +1300 George Darroch https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133287#post133287 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133287#post133287 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:09:56 +1300 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133283#post133283 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133283#post133283

Football is all about the denial of orgasm.

Subtle photograph choice there.

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:28:45 +1300 Raymond A Francis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133280#post133280 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133280#post133280 That really does make sense
After all this is a game where you are not allowed to use your hands
Hands that (God or who ever is in charge of these things) gave us to pick up balls that we can carry over the line and dot down. Instead....

Talk…

]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:16:50 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133279#post133279 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-wait-for-it/?p=133279#post133279 Discussion from blog post.

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