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				<title>Simon Poole</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:47:49 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Poole</title>
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						<p>[quote]In an unintentional way Jones almost makes a good point.</p><p>I agree that a neutral observer would say that The Lions played the most enterprising rugby on show this year.</p><p>But, with the current rules, that’s not winning rugby.<br />[/quote]</p><p>What gets me is that the AB's win like the…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:44:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just suppose Richie McCaw and Dan Carter got together &ndash; how many kiwis would still object to them adopting?</p><p>I would've thought Megan or Emma would've commented on this by now. Oh and I would object for the same reasons I objected to Madonna's African baby party.</p></blockquote><p>Sorry, I couldn't…</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:27:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>In an unintentional way Jones almost makes a good point.</p><p>I agree that a neutral observer would say that The Lions played the most enterprising rugby on show this year.</p><p>But, with the current rules, that’s not winning rugby.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:13:41 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, that glorious test series victory the Lions won was a thing of wonder. Oh, hang on ...</p></blockquote><p>Jones' sarcasm is so subtle you can hardly notice it's there.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:38:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						Some of us came back from the Cake Tin where the Lions squaked through by one point just in time to watch the All Blacks do the same. That was quite awesome.
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:45:02 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Dear old Stephen Jones has had <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby_union/article6806327.ece" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">his usual wankfest</a> in The Times:</p><blockquote><p>And yet again, a major rugby match has been decided with a seemingly random refereeing decision in rugby’s nightmare area — the breakdown. New Zealand were showing signs of panic as they trailed in the dying moments but…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:26:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Maybe I was watching another game but it seemed to be Carter bought us that penalty with a superb kick and some great support play...</p></blockquote><p>And then won a crucial turnover in the last minute &mdash; only to see his captain hand the bloody ball back. But mostly, the All…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:04:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<p>o and what I came to post about...that game! awesome. Dan Carter blew my mind. Then I read this...</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/2778613/All-Blacks-show-ticker-to-win-close-one" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/2778613/All-Blacks-show-ticker-to-win-close-one</a></p><blockquote><p>Dan Carter. The Returning One was, OK, not magnificent, but pretty damn good.</p></blockquote><blockquote><p>And really there was an element of luck about this All Blacks win. They just happened to…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:00:45 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>mark taslov</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just suppose Richie McCaw and Dan Carter got together &ndash; how many kiwis would still object to them adopting?</p></blockquote><p>That is an image I think I'm stuck with for life now. That end game man touching is never gonna look the same. Yes I support them!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:51:55 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just suppose Richie McCaw and Dan Carter got together &ndash; how many kiwis would still object to them adopting?</p><p>Indeed, we'd merrily donate our infant manchilds to the happy couple.</p></blockquote><p>I'd donate EGGS.</p><p>(Sorry for the delay, I was pruning my roses.)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:46:28 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>In fact it'd make this season even more interesting</p></blockquote><p>It would also make it like any other competition in the world with promotion / relegation.</p><p>It is NOT a radical idea.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:29:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Just suppose Richie McCaw and Dan Carter got together &ndash; how many kiwis would still object to them adopting?</p></blockquote><p>I would've thought Megan or Emma would've commented on this by now. Oh and I would object for the same reasons I objected to Madonna's African baby party.</p><blockquote><p>Drop the bottom…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:20:47 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Simon Poole</title>
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						I say this as a Waikato fan, but I'd be happy to see the bottom four teams demoted at the end of this season. Given that there is automatic relegation/promotion happening at the end of a season, it is not impossible for any of the S14 unions to be relegated…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:07:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						That’s an absolute gem Robyn.  Where to start...
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:49:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<p>Hey, this one has rugby in it.</p><p>The Herald is asking "<a href="http://blogs.nzherald.co.nz/blog/your-views/2009/8/18/should-gay-couples-be-able-adopt/?commentpage=2&amp;objectid=10592014" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Should gay couples be able to adopt?</a>" Amid the predictable pro and anti arguments, comes this provocative question from WelshJerry of Waiheke Island:</p><blockquote><p>Just suppose Richie McCaw and Dan Carter got together &ndash; how many kiwis would still object to…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The amount of righteous rugby anger out there in non-Super land is scary to behold.</p></blockquote><p>And when 4 sides, picked randomly from the points table, are demoted at the end of the season it will slip into a new gear altogether.</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:40:13 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						The amount of righteous rugby anger out there in non-Super land is scary to behold.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:36:44 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...truly rubbed in the dirt by a Manawatu team that just wanted to win so much they made it happen.</p></blockquote><p>and oh the TACKLING<br />I haven't enjoyed watching a game of rugby that much in quite some time ....</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>What isn't there to like about the Air New Zealand Cup? </p><p>I just watched a gutsy Manawatu beat an Otago team that featured a somewhat petulant Adam Thompson, the entitlement dripping from him was well and truly rubbed in the dirt by a Manawatu team that just wanted to win…</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>What Yam said.</p><p>I just can't see the issue of an Otago / Auckland playing a year in Div 2.</p><p>It's hardly as if the game would fold in those areas.  Would be good for the Heartland comp or whatever they call it these days, it would be fair (gulp)…</p>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think the relegation at the end of this season isn't just based on position. There's a formula which includes population, registered player base, financial situation, previous years performances will all be considered. They agreed on something a couple of months ago.</p><p>I suspect, even if they come dead last,…</p></blockquote>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:04:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I still don't know what his actual real name was, because even my parents called him "Munter".</p></blockquote><p>The fencing coach at my club has an unfortunate talent for memorable nicknames (Titch, Bodicea, Windows, Dr. Olive Oil...). In some cases it took me literally years to find out what people were…</p>
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				<title>Lucy Stewart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Dan Carter is Desi</p></blockquote><p>Now that would be unexpected.</p>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						that would be the best mate not my brother <grin>
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				<title>Jo S</title>
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						<p>Rugby nicknames are great.<br />My brother used to play prop for his high school, and one of his best mates was a flanker in the same team.<br />I still don't know what his actual real name was, because even my parents called him "Munter".</p>
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				<title>Dave Patrick</title>
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						<p>I really can't see my beloved Counties avoiding the drop at the end of this season, especially if they carry on playing the way they are at the moment.  They've already played two of the supposed weaker teams and lost both games, so I'm not holding my breath :(</p><p>I'll…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>Mind you, I feel like I was part of a vanished age in sport. I was watching the video brawl between Kelston and AGS and I was struck by how poorly turned out the boys were. </p><p>When I played college rugby, if you turned up and your boots weren't  polished…</p>
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				<title>Tom Semmens</title>
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						<p>I have to say private schools generally have a better class of nickname for teams.</p><p>I recall a "Woodcock" getting the moniker of "Penis Radiata" &ndash; surely a testament to the power of Latin to shape young minds. And an ancient fellow was nicknamed "Fossil". My somewhat wild curly hair…</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>but I remember Richie saying in an interview that Justin Marshall changed his website profile to "Fluffy". It was to do with his hair.</p></blockquote><p>Justin Marshall giving someone a hard time about their hair...</p><p>I think I’ve heard it all now.</p>
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				<title>Rachel Prosser</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Carter and McCaw don't have nicknames</p></blockquote><p>Dan Carter is Desi, or DC</p><p>Richie is a nickname (short for Richard), but I remember Richie saying in an interview that Justin Marshall changed his website profile to "Fluffy". It was to do with his hair.  That's where the nickname came from.  Here's…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Carter and McCaw don't have nicknames</p></blockquote><p>Surely Carter is 'DC'?</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<blockquote><p>[Megan's Boyfriend The King Captain Tackles McCaw doesn't count 'cause if you called him that, he wouldn't turn around until the McCaw part].</p></blockquote><p>I think you'd find he'd turn around well before that.</p><p>And not to be all fan-girl, but he does have a nickname, apparently the Canterbury boys call…</p>
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				<title>Naly D</title>
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						<p>Regarding the Dingo Deans comment, we all know the Australian formula for nicknames right? Here's the Aussie team to play this weekend by their nicknames. </p><p>Jamesy<br />Lach-o<br />Coop-o<br />Barnesy<br />Drewy<br />Git-o [don't let the 'eau' fool you]<br />Lukey<br />Browny<br />Smithy<br />Rock-o<br />Sharpey<br />James-o<br />Aly<br />Moorey<br />Rob-o</p>
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						<p><a href="http://dropkicks.co.nz/air_new_zealand_cup/air_new_zealand_cup_tribal_council" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">My views on who should be relegated</a></p><p>Demoting Auckland would be an exercise in futility. They have shareholders etc who would still stump up cash for their big name players, so they'd dominate premier division [or whatever it's getting called] and pop back up the next season. Though I do…</p>
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				<title>Rachel Prosser</title>
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						<p>Last time I looked the teams from the country's population base were in the bottom 5 spots:</p><p>Northland, North Harbour, Auckland, Counties,  Waikato. </p><p>Can't really see those 5 teams merging into one &ndash; even if it ended up that way! </p><p>Mind you, the provinces have less on to watch -…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>They are going to end up with law suits flying all over the place if they try and relegate teams that didn't finish in the bottom 4.</p></blockquote><p>I think the relegation at the end of this season isn't just based on position. There's a formula which includes population, registered player…</p>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<p>Not 100% true on the 20% playing position thing there.</p><p>It's "Playing History" which of course means they can dismiss where teams come this year and look at the past 1, 2, 5, 10 years (or whatever suits them).</p><p>They are going to end up with law suits flying all…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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