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Isabel Hitchings

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:11:53 +1200

My uni years were a litany of taking things too far, too seriously and too personally. If I had a time machine the first thing I'd do would be go back and hit myself upside the head and say "stop being such a DORK".

Then dinosaurs. And also rock and…

Sam F

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:00:12 +1200

You're still using the helmet model? How antiquated. Wait, can a time machine be antiquated?

I'd assumed you'd want some kind of head protection whilst using said time machine. Can a time machine be antiquated? Depends what direction you're going in, I suppose – if you're going backwards it'd be…

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:50:40 +1200

Ahem. Some of us were there, actually. And some of us did kick some coppy shins. Not me, I hasten to add. Now that was a complex situation. Can you imagine coming out of police college and finding yourself on the Red Squad, and in full blown riot gear?. Very…

Hadyn Green

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:50:11 +1200

Do those time-travel helmets double for riot use?

You're still using the helmet model? How antiquated. Wait, can a time machine be antiquated?

Sam F

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:47:26 +1200

Heh, if we're talking 1981 I could join my grandparents on the HART protests and maybe even kick some people who deserved it. Do those time-travel helmets double for riot use?

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:42:45 +1200

S'okay Sam. You can come back in the time machine with me. I could grope, you could kick – even stevens.

Sam F

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:40:00 +1200

Hope I didn't come across too crazy before – I'm pretty much in agreement with Hadyn and Emma, and will be considerate of peoples' shins in the event of future misunderstandings.

Hadyn Green

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:34:25 +1200

Yes.

Sorry I had to assume you'd do the Hitler thing first. Me, I'd probably go see dinosaurs first because it's a time machine, I can get around to the important stuff whenever I want, right?

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:27:13 +1200

Yes. Thankyou Hadyn.

Hadyn Green

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:24:36 +1200

Wow, this got serious without me noticing

Jackie has admitted doing something then she's not proud of now. I've got a whole bunch of those somethings: doesn't everyone?

Quite.

So we can probably agree that should Jackie attempt any pinching now she could get anything from an angry glare to…

Paul Litterick

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:12:44 +1200

You are no different from the men who commit similar assaults: you justify your behaviour by the times and you refuse to accept responsibility for your actions. Most of your victims thought it was hilarious. Those who thought otherwise can be forgotten. In any case, you can justify it as…

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:42:37 +1200

Can of worms, anyone? Look. As I said, you really had to be there. It was all fun and games – for everyone concerned. I was somewhat kidding about it being part of my feminist philosophy. As someone who was a pretty consistent member of Unifem, you can take it…

Sam F

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 14:04:32 +1200

Eh, I don't know. Anyone who grabbed me like that all of a sudden without my say-so* would likely get a swift kick in the shins, but I'm happy enough to accept that Jackie actually wouldn't do such a thing now and leave it at that.

I have done my…

Paul Litterick

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:56:12 +1200

Jackie is clearly not proud, or is that another bit of a double standard?

Paul Litterick

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:51:16 +1200

Doubtless the dirty old men who grope schoolgirls also say they are doing their victims some good. To their credit, at least they do not redefine their lechery as political activism.

Emma Hart

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:17:06 +1200

Like, the 80's. Reclaiming The Night, All Men Are Rapists, and all that. I guess you had to be there.

I was there in the 90s, and unifeminism put me off any kind of feminism for over a decade.

But.

Uni-aged people are not known for their appreciation of subtleties…

Paul Litterick

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:08:22 +1200

I guess you had to be there.

I'm glad I wasn't. I have been sexually assaulted in that way and, y'know, I didn't come away with the impression that I was a rapist. In fact, it didn't make me think about the Patriarchy at all. I was to busy feeling sullied…

giovanni tiso

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:55:26 +1200

Never been a big fan of all men are rapists, I must say. The teacher in question was nearing 70 so in a way the thing was bizarrely a-sexual. However.

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:46:39 +1200

A high school teacher, Giovanni? That ain't right. I'm not saying I'm proud of what I used to do. It was the times, you know. Like, the 80's. Reclaiming The Night, All Men Are Rapists, and all that. I guess you had to be there.

giovanni tiso

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:00:45 +1200

Yeah, I had a teacher in high school who used to do that and I found it pretty infuriating. Maybe I deserved because I was a male?

Paul Litterick

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:34:18 +1200

I had not realised, until now, that sexual assault could be a feminist statement.

One learns so much in this community.

Jackie Clark

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:45:10 +1200

Doubt it Sam! It's just a particular bug bear of mine, is all. As Emma said people have words they dislike intensely. Ladies is another one. Don't worry, I have been actively "positively discriminatory" – not so much now, but part of my particular brand of feminism used to be…

Sam F

Tue, 14 Apr 2009 08:27:00 +1200

Oh, Sam. I might like to look at lovely mens' bodies but I do not like being called a girl. Girlhood was a very long time ago.

That was just meant as a wordplay on the stereotypical sports-yob yell of 'tits out for the boys', so I wasn't referring directly…

giovanni tiso

Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:06:40 +1200

'Girl' doesn't bother me, but 'lady' drives me buggy.

I think it was Dimitri Martin who made the point that there is no sentence in the English language that won't become creepy by adding ladies at the end.

Emma Hart

Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:10:29 +1200

See, I've no problem with the behaviours, but the word 'ladette' really gets on my tits. As if, if you drink and behave in a raucous fashion it somehow makes you male.

'Girl' doesn't bother me, but 'lady' drives me buggy. I rather like the way different words annoy different…

Jackie Clark

Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:53:16 +1200

Hmm. Ladette? Sinking huge amounts of piss? No. Throwing my body around with gay abandon? No. Indulging in risky sexual behaviour? No. So thanks Russell, but no thanks. That was in my twenties! And even then I was a womyn.

Russell Brown

Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:29:54 +1200

Oh, Sam. I might like to look at lovely mens' bodies but I do not like being called a girl. Girlhood was a very long time ago.

How are you with "laddette"? No?

Naly D

Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:21:31 +1200

To:
Subject: Get in Shape

Dear Ali,
I'm a long-time fan of yours. The way you leap and bound around the field used fill me with inspiration and the hope that one day I will also be an All Black Lock.
Then I saw your gut. I've got to…

Simon Poole

Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:39:37 +1200

Naly: Maybe, but the man is 2m tall and around 115kg. You tell him that.

Naly D

Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:37:25 +1200

Wow, Ali Williams is really of quite average build huh?

Jackie Clark

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:15:24 +1200

Oh, Sam. I might like to look at lovely mens' bodies but I do not like being called a girl. Girlhood was a very long time ago.

Sam F

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:40:05 +1200

Pecs out for the girls?

Emma Hart

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:14:17 +1200

I wonder how much of a Super 14 player's salary goes on body waxing?

They only do it for the aerodynamics, Rachel.

Sarcasm, btw.

Megan Wegan

Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:09:28 +1200

It's not perving, Isabel. It's just enjoying beauty. One may appreciate the aesthetic without sexualising. I mean, I don't want to have sex with them. But I do like to look. Okay, so it's perving.

Hadyn, I really wish you hadn't told me about this at work. I really am…

Rachel Prosser

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:53:44 +1200

It also acknowledges in a fun and vibrant way that for some of the population there may be more to enjoy in a match than following the field of play.

"Fun and vibrant"? Or creepy.

Also – notice the fact that tattoos have replaced body hair. I wonder how much…

Robyn Gallagher

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:16:29 +1200

I suspected it might be more popular elsewhere.

It seriously makes me think that Adidas/Super 14 is going after the not insignificant "pink dollar".

Jackie Clark

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:14:03 +1200

It has a slo-mo replay mode!
I don't follow rugby so I have no idea who I'm perving at but a perve is a perve, right?

It's not perving, Isabel. It's just enjoying beauty. One may appreciate the aesthetic without sexualising. I mean, I don't want to have sex with…

Jacqui Craig

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:57:39 +1200

I felt a little guilty objectifying those poor men like that. I do think, however, that they got the music a bit wrong – I'd have suggested something more in this line: http://www.esnips.com/doc/2a73fcdf-b121-4846-a01e-753be6ac3924/The-Stripper---David-Rose

Hadyn Green

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:21:15 +1200

I don't follow rugby so I have no idea who I'm perving at but a perve is a perve, right?

Take this as a chance to learn :) Also you can drop lines like "I really like Liam Messam's form this season"

i've never commented on your blog haydn but…

Rebecca Williams

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:09:19 +1200

jersey swap = orrrrrrrrrrrsssssummmmmmmmmm

i've never commented on your blog haydn but i ruhlly ruhlly like it. and this from a woman who is ruhlly ruhlly not very interested in sport.

Isabel Hitchings

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:38:52 +1200

It has a slo-mo replay mode!

I don't follow rugby so I have no idea who I'm perving at but a perve is a perve, right?

Emma Hart

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:27:44 +1200

Lyndon, when they did the Mills & Boon cross-over, our consensus was that if they wanted to make rugby appeal to women, they should have gone for slash-fic. Same principle.

That press release, OTOH, makes my teeth ache. 'Ladies'? Srsly? 'Fairer fans'? Has anyone seen my bucket?

Lyndon Hood

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:20:33 +1200

Funny thing, but the press release describe Jersey Swap as A Game for the Ladies.

I suspected it might be more popular elsewhere.

Jake Pollock

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:00:02 +1200

You'll notice that the teams in the basketball clip had also had problems sorting out their home and away strips. Attitudes in professional sports filter right down to the schools, you know.

Hadyn Green

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:59:56 +1200

BTW, your mailbox is way more like mine than I was expecting, frankly.

Ha! but with slightly different links?

Emma Hart

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:52:23 +1200

"This" is the new Adidas Super 14 promotion called Jersey Swap.

AWESOME

I just have to go give this to all my friends.

BTW, your mailbox is way more like mine than I was expecting, frankly.

Public Address

Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:52:23 +1200

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