David Haywood has suggested I get the ISBN of my forthcoming book tattooed somewhere on my body. It's a bloody tempting thought.

I suggest tatting the number on your spine...
...a contrapuntal complement to your "Dewey" eyes?

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Librar Ian
from the stack

I believe it's spelled 'pendant'.

How meta of you.

Counter-counter-point: So do you. Unless you going for the uberpedantry of "tattoo" vs "tattoos".

I think it's the only identifier (think harder, Emma, we're both pakeha too) that you couldn't use to tell me and Hadyn apart.

David Haywood has suggested I get the ISBN of my forthcoming book tattooed…

We're easy to tell apart: Hadyn's the one with the tattoos.

Counter-counter-point: So do you. Unless you going for the uberpedantry of "tattoo" vs "tattoos".

Spent about six hours under the needle yesterday. In a lot of pain right now.

Pedant's point: the name of the place was noted in the SST report in Emma's post – 25 Cross Street, which is obviously also its street address.

Pedant's Counter-point: Hadyn's post. We're easy to tell apart: Hadyn's the one with the tattoos.

Really Jack — no media report I've seen has disclosed the location of the bloody place. Epic fail is how the kids put it, I believe.

Pedant's point: the name of the place was noted in the SST report in Emma's post – 25 Cross Street, which is obviously also…

I just wish that so many sports clubs, community groups and even schools weren't so dependent on gambling profits.

I'd be fully in favour of that as well. It would have to be done in a similar way to the smokefree shift. The government would have to set up a…

Are you suggesting that Sarah Ulmer can do wrong? I humbly submit that you are in error.

I'm much more annoyed by the Evers-Swindell twins pimping for red meat. But isn't the first rule of advertising that it's better to be loathed than die unnoticed? :)

The only sponsorship deal so far that has made me yell at the TV was when I saw Sarah Ulmer's unholy union with McDonalds. Talk about not being a good role model for kids!

Are you suggesting that Sarah Ulmer can do wrong? I humbly submit that you are in…

I run a sports organisation that receives a considerable amount of money from foundations that run gambling machines. We wouldn't exist without this funding.

Indeed — and most sportsmen and woman aren't in a position to pull tens or hundred of thousands of dollars out of their arses either. All…

But I think Robyn's nailed it above: the guy's using the sport angle to advertise his new business venture, rather than the other way around. Voila, lots of free publicity for his new knob-polishing operation.

Really Jack — no media report I've seen has disclosed the location of the bloody…

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/blog/2009/jul/13/olympics-sex-logan-campbell-taekwondo

When I watched the item on 3News last night two things struck me:

On TV One they had quite a nice balanced report (I thought). TNZ put forward their points and the reporter asked fairly decent questions.

It includes this quote:

But here is what we should remember, and it was something…

Two talking heads from Taekwondo and the Olympic committee going tut tut tut.

I feel sorry for TNZ they have struggled to keep up and have little or no money. I take exception to the NZOC taking a stance though, given that they are to some extent responsible for the…

That's gold.

1. Two talking heads from Taekwondo and the Olympic committee going tut tut tut. There was no talking head representing the sex industry to provide an alternative viewpoint.

2. I can't take a businessman with that kind…

Maybe sports figures shouldn't be role models, but that's a different matter from whether they are.

Maybe they are, but that's a different matter from whether they have a greater obligation than anyone else to be so.

And the advertising machine that backed Hamish Carter for 2004 wasn't a business ?

The only sponsorship deal so far that has made me yell at the TV was when I saw Sarah Ulmer's unholy union with McDonalds. Talk about not being a good role model for kids!

One is the 'role model' argument. That our sports figures are role models, especially for children. They just ain't!

I like your argument, but I'm not sure it works. Role models are those whom others (incl. children) model themselves on. Maybe sports figures shouldn't be role models, but that's a…

Logan tried to start a Chauffeuring business in the years before the last Olympics. It failed largely because he couldn't walk away from it for 6-8 weeks at a time.

He is never going to be able to work in an office and working for…

Sure, they may have wanted him to tone down the publicity linking the sports body to the brothel, but it seems they have…

If you were a gentleman, looking for a club

If I were the sort of gentleman who frequented that sort of club, I would imagine that it's not the age of the owner that would be uppermost in my mind.

Is he going to be a business owner who represents New Zealand at TKD
or
is he a TKD champ funded by a business?

It's the same-diff really. The reason why Campbell didn't get his SPARC funding was that he wasn't competing. So we can assume then that once his…

Regardless of the legality of it all, it is a bad look. The reality is everyone has a general internal moral compass of what sorts of business one thinks it is appropriate for any particular individual to be engaged in.

There are perhaps three issues involved: legal, "sexual" moral and…

Aren't athletes already generally judged on moral grounds?

Funny, I'd always had the strange idea they were judged according to sporting achievements.

But lucky Logan gets to wear a nice suit and pose with a smile on his face and talk about his "sports fundraising".

Not content to simply become players in the sex industry, Campbell and Phillips want to transform it, as they believe most clubs and parlours are "seedy".

I notice that they're advertising their classy new operation with guys holding up "Honk If You Love Sex" ads on street corners...

Is he going to be a brothel owner who represents New Zealand at TKD or is he a TKD champ funded by a brothel?

Is he going to be a business owner who represents New Zealand at TKD
or
is he a TKD champ funded by a business?

The business…

Or maybe if he joined the Masons...

It is, frankly, pathetic that this bloke should be given grief for trying to raise funding for…

See for example various sanctions applied to athletes for legal, but dumb, booze-fuelled antics.

How many under the threshhold for being drunk and disorderly?

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it clearly does. I'm just trying to work out where the line is or should be.

Can’t see the issue; raising money and staying fit.