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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZrgUuFSg_c" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here</a> is a good first person perspective on the game. The noise you hear is pretty much all I heard during the whole game. I can imagine if you have players on the side they’d have to yell really loud for you to hear them, though. The guy who got…
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:39:53 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q> I used to take my daughter to tournaments and it was always very noisy. But not much of a spectator sport.</q></p><p>Noisy? Really? What sort of noise? The signal thingo? </p><p>I played it once. It's certainly engaging when you're in there, but nothing to look at. Very strange sport, most…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:35:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><q>It’s quite inspiring to hear people sledging each other with actual wit.</q><br />And once upon a time that might have even described Parliament....</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:17:22 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Even more so with underwater hockey? I used to take my daughter to tournaments and it was always very noisy.  But not much of a spectator sport.
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:45:23 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>And it was bloody funny, and bloody good fun.</q></p><p>Indeed, without profanity and homophobia, you actually have to say something witty. It's quite inspiring to hear people sledging each other with actual wit.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:23:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>I would have raised my eyebrows under water.</q></p><p>You can pretty much yell anything you like underwater and get away with it. It's very therapeutic, actually. Talking audibly underwater is quite an art. You have to do it with your mouth shut.</p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:19:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Euan Mason</title>
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						<p>"It was common when I played waterpolo for penalties to be given for even raising one's eyebrows about a referee's call."</p><p>I would have raised my eyebrows under water.</p>
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				<title>Gareth Davidson</title>
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						I was lucky enough to be at the second test at Headingley last month. We were pretty much in the thick of it (i.e. ground zero &ndash; the head of the verboten beer snake &ndash; started in the seats right in front of us). In the six of seven hours…
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				<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 12:46:54 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>George  Darroch</title>
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						<p><q><br />It was common when I played waterpolo for penalties to be given for even raising one's eyebrows about a referee's call. To say something about it was considered disrespect and could easily result in ejection for the whole game. To actively harass the referee almost never happened, and in the…</q></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:57:10 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<q>Slightly, but maybe not really, off-topic: watching the (FTA) buildup to French test, and the (female, not that it matters maybe) presenter tells a *funny* story about how the guy she was interviewing liked to wind people up, and he was throwing bread at a lunch until his captain took…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:47:34 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<q>My rule of thumb is, if I fuck up, the players are allowed to swear within some reason, because they have the right to expect that I do a better job. I completely missed an Auckland player that threw an elbow the other week and right clocked a guy from…</q>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 00:41:32 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ben McNicoll</title>
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						Slightly, but maybe not really, off-topic: watching the (FTA) buildup to French test, and the (female, not that it matters maybe) presenter tells a *funny* story about how the guy she was interviewing liked to wind people up, and he was throwing bread at a lunch until his captain took…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:00:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>adding fuel...</strong><br /><q>What do you call dicks then?</q><br />isn't a bundle of dicks called a fagot (Faggot <em>Brit</em>)<br />or was it sticks?<br />: &ndash; )</p><p><strong>hannibal lictor...?</strong><br />perhaps a bundle of dicks would not be dissimilar <br />to a bundle of rods with a projecting axe head...<br />a.k.a. fasces &ndash; which…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:18:08 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p>Way down the list of things that's fucked up about Eden Park's "it's just part of the game" attitude is, well... it's pretty damn insulting to straight male rugby fans.  </p><p>I have plenty of straight male rugby fan friends whose default setting isn't "homophobic, misogynistic, racist dickbag" and, en mass,…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:49:25 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p><q>Well mate, so long as you ref you’ll continue to be called way worse, and regularly.</q></p><p>My rule of thumb is, if I fuck up, the players are allowed to swear within some reason, because they have the right to expect that I do a better job. I completely missed…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:39:42 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						<q>We've gone through this at some length in my thread, but basically, you're wrong. Eden Park is a far more civil and safer place than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Many women attend games. I can't recall the last time I saw behaviour like that in question. Which…</q>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 22:48:57 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						We've gone through this at some length in my thread, but basically, you're wrong. Eden Park is a far more civil and safer place than it was 10 or 20 years ago. Many women attend games. I can't recall the last time I saw behaviour like that in question. Which…
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>But I will say this, I have spent a long time removing gendered insults from my general lexicon</q></p><p>What do you call dicks then?</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>the good guys swear too</q></p><p>fuck yes</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p><q>Please be polite to referees. Rugby, like many sports has terrible problems with how referees are treated on sports fields at all levels on weekends. Many of them are unpaid volunteers just trying to make the sport happen as best they can.</q></p><p>This is an excellent point well made and…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p><q> civility and politeness have declined in this country</q></p><p>Oh fuck I'm sorry! Nah, I'm not :) But I will say this, I have spent a long time removing gendered insults from my general lexicon. I will use certain ones among friends whom I have known for a long time or…</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<p><q>The language you use in this post is just as bad.</q></p><p>Generic use of "fuckwit" is an equal opportunity profanity and calling someone a "faggot" is homophobic abuse. The latter is several orders of magnitude worse than the former. Your argument is a false equivalence. Also known as "full of…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<q>In terms of abuse of referees at local sports fields the most power is with the referee. No ref = no game. They have to seize it. When I played in the 90s we would get penalised for saying things like "c'mon ref" after a call we didn't like so…</q>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>When I played in the 90s we would get penalised for saying things like “c’mon ref” after a call we didn’t like so we pretty much knew not to go there.</q></p><p>It was common when I played waterpolo for penalties to be given for even raising one's eyebrows about a…</p>
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				<title>Ross Mason</title>
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						<p>Off Stuff</p><p><a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/8797666/Army-chief-becomes-unlikely-feminist-hero " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Hard hitting Ozzie Army Chief</a></p><p>"The standard you walk past is the standard you accept"</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>I'd say it's got better, but it's got a ways to go.</q></p><p>It has absolutely improved. I mean, what's more polite than the "Give us a wave" chant?</p>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>The homophobes at Eden park represent one side of how civility and politeness have declined in this country.</q></p><p>Is that true? I'd say it's got better, but it's got a ways to go. Gawd I remember one of the only games of cricket I went to in the 90s there…</p>
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				<title>Yamis</title>
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						It all basically comes down to tolerance by those in power.  In the case of Eden Park it's those running the venue. If they think that it's up to society to sort out then perhaps they think it'd be a good idea for those being abused to get in a…
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				<title>Martin Connelly</title>
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						The homophobes at Eden park represent one side of how civility and politeness have declined in this country.  The language you use in this post is just as bad.
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p><q>She was at the game with her brother</q></p><p>Hey I don't have time to <em>read</em> the news, just be outraged by it. :P</p><p><q> she was captain of her high school rugby team.</q><br />Awesome</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<p>Please be polite to referees. Rugby, like many sports has terrible problems with how referees are treated on sports fields at all levels on weekends. Many of them are unpaid volunteers just trying to make the sport happen as best they can.</p><p>And if it's OK at Eden Park or…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>hopefully someone pointed out that the thugs who said homophobic slurs were "part of the game" were clearly wrong because they were saying them to a gay couple.</q></p><p>She was at the game with her brother, not her girlfriend, but the reason they were wrong is even more compelling: she…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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