Field Theory: I'm ever so pissed.
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If I was the All Black coach in this position (god help me)
Not that long ago you were saying you'd love the job.
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If the NZRU were to put every current NPC and S14 coach and their assistancts, every current and former ABs coach and their assistants, and every New Zealander coaching at a high level overseas on a plane, crash that plane in the Andes, and have the survivors eat the dead to stay alive
There’s some gag about how they’d last for months on just one forward coach screaming to get out, but I won’t go there.
So you’re saying the NZRU is even more insular than the English FA and the BCCI?
Wow.
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So you’re saying the NZRU is even more insular than the English FA and the BCCI?
I don't think it's insular.
I think it's foolish if the country that has the best (as far as I can tell) body of coaches in the world, goes outside that body for their national coach.
For one thing, everyone staying in NZ and coaching at provincial or super 14 level with an eye on the top job in the future, will be on the next plane out of here to earn more money in Europe. We'd decimate our second tier coaches.
Secondly, we've got a bunch of good coaches who could step up to the All Blacks if Henry and Deans aren't needed. Just because there's one person out there who might be better doesn't mean you rush out and grab them. They'd look like idiots, and the NZRU does enough of that already.
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everyone staying in NZ and coaching at provincial or super 14 level with an eye on the top job in the future, will be on the next plane out of here to earn more money in Europe.
The reappointment of the current lot did that anyway. Warren Gatland. That guy coaching the Wallabies.
we've got a bunch of good coaches who could step up to the All Blacks if Henry and Deans aren't needed
That may be the case but I seem to seeing / hearing “Ah, you can’t sack the current coaches because there’s no-one else” a lot.
BTW, when I employ Mr. White I’d tell him to get NZ coaches around him, but he’d know that anyway.
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The reappointment of the current lot did that anyway. Warren Gatland. That guy coaching the Wallabies.
There will always be NZ coaches going overseas as there's only one top job, it's difficult to get it, and there's lots of good coaches. If we start appointing foreigners than people who are currently staying in NZ with an eye on the top job will leave, which is not what you want.
You can't divorce the availability of coaching the All Blacks from the quality of coaches that we manage to retain in NZ, in much the same way that you can't divorce the availability of playing for the All Blacks from the quality of player that stays in NZ. In much the same way that lots more Super 14 and NPC players would have buggered off overseas if the All Blacks selected from overseas, lots of our coaches would do the same.
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So you’re saying the NZRU is even more insular than the English FA and the BCCI?
Not at all. I don't know about the BCCI, but the FA is not a fair comparison - they realised that the Premiership has failed to build a pool of English coaches to choose from, so went to Eriksson. They tried to return to an English coach, and he bollixed it up.
I don't agree with the "there's no-one else now that the Dingo and Daffodil Gatland have gone overseas. Given that Mains' Otago were hardly world beaters when he was appointed ABs coach, and that Hart had been out of coaching for a while when he was appointed to the job, there's no reason why one of our current S14 or NPC coaches couldn't step up if necessary. (Shoot, whatever they're not doing at BoP, let's not do that).
When did this defeatism take over the NZ rugby psyche?
Maybe on 31 October 1999?
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Speaking of the state of our rugby culture, does anyone want to try and parse this kids' book, from the NZRU online shop?
Coaching & Education>Education>"It's OK to be a boy "
Boys love to climb trees, trade cards, have messy bedrooms and fight with swords.
But they are not always allowed to do these things.
Rugger reckons there are a lot of things that boys can do.In fact, it’s OK to be a boy!
Is this some kind of blast against our anti-wild child nanny state? What, in fact, is a boy to do when all of those things are denied him? Are girls allowed to do all of these things, or none of them, or do they simply not exist in this particular kids' sporting universe? I think we should be told.
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Meanwhile, the Oracle of Rattue has spoken, and told us that Australia will "not win the World Cup."
I think I might just pop down the TAB and slip a quiet bet on the Wallabies.
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