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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Yes, not to be <em> sniffed</em> at. ;)
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> it gives them the shits</q></p><p>regularity is not to be sniffed at</p>
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						<p>"and no side effects"</p><p>O, for some susceptible folk &ndash; not any of whanau-us &ndash; it gives them the shits.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:47:40 +1200</pubDate>
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						Kia ora Sacha – my mother, my sisters & myself have been taking fishoil for the last decade. I’ve also been taking greenlipped mussel extract (my mother cant because she is extremely allergic to mussels…) I am sure these aids help – because I’ve tried not taking them for anything up…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:46:19 +1200</pubDate>
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						Fish oil works well for many, and no side effects.
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						<p>Raymond, that is a good suggestion &ndash; and there a local deer velvet supplier(registered and all that) in Harihari...the side effects will be nonexistent for me, and anything &ndash; well, almost anything &ndash; to stop the constant droning ache of inflammed joints &amp; broken bits is worth trying.</p><p>We've got a…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:53:40 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Raymond A Francis</title>
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						<p>I know it is the second time in a couple of weeks that I have offered you un-asked for health advice but<br />Have you tried deer velvet, I use it and have had very positive results, there are side effects (it seems it is true what oriental men say about…</p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:20:52 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Well that spoilt the effect but not the mood :)
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						<p><q> It really did bring tears to my eyes. And if it’s good enough for them, it’s good enough for me.</q></p><p>Often the case Jackie, acts of kindness are so underrated until you hear about one and the flood gates open :) <br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:43:56 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Well, if I wasn't a supporter of all the excitement around the RWC, I kind of am now. Watching Close Up last night, and they had a story about the RWC volunteers. One guy hadn't had a job in 9 yrs and was hoping this would be a stepping stone,…
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				<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:17:16 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Mellopuffy</title>
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						Tom &ndash; you still got your tix to Ireland/Italy? we're a 20min walk from the stadium (if that) and have a spare (double) bed if you need a place to stay...
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						<p>Thanks Sof' &ndash; will check it out when I'm over the hill.<br />Males in my whanau get gout (and it is truly a crippling thing): females get osteoarth. Both inflammatory conditions, but one can make grown men cry, and other just makes older women snarl (o, and deforms your hands...)</p>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:47:50 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						Islander, get some acupuncture.Endure the first sesss, then do anything they suggest as follow up and go back for another session, when they advise. The guys I go to made me walk when I needed a cane to stumble. But I do persevere.Arthritis has help and it's called acupuncture. Gout…
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 19:32:11 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						I think the counter example might be WipeOut. The balls are enormous. It can make amusing television though, so that does put it above golf.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						Marbles on par with paintball? Also, that means playing with Bonks is the superior kind of marbles.
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				<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:43:30 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						Which is greater than pinball machines?
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				<title>Geoff Lealand</title>
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						Golf?  My pet theory is that the smaller the ball, the sillier the sport. Golf is marginally above marbles.
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						<p>Ben &ndash; with osteoarthritis, swimming should be my exercise of choice buuutttt...I am highly allergic to chlorine; swimming in the sea (or lagoon)here is an invitation to almost instant hypothermia, and an endless saltwater heated pool (my option with Lotto) not a goer at the moment...</p><p>But I live in…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Thanks, Ben. I try!
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						<p>Well, that does involve a lot of hiking, which is healthy. But it's pretty dangerous.</p><p>I'd bet that Ardito was simply a fantastic specimen, and that's probably what made him a good mountain climber.</p><p>Mind you, one of the things that most appeals to me about gardening as a sport…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>I'm not sure what you mean by mountaineering.</q></p><p>I meant mountain climbing. Possibly based entirely on the fact that Ardito Desio lived to be 104. But my motto on these matters is "death before researching which form of exercise is better for you".</p>
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						<p><q>Mind you, I don't really know what I base either of those convinctions on.</q></p><p>Swimming is wonderfully low impact. It is excellent exercise, and develops good posture naturally, because it involves stretching out, and keeping your abdominals tight, and controlling your breathing. You can't fall over and break anything. You…</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>fit, strong, menopausal, fucking tired woman</q></p><p>be afraid ...</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>So long as I’ve ridden long enough to get through the sore legs phase, I’m often full of beans after a ride</q></p><p>You mean long enough to stimulate endorphin production ...</p>
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						You look great for it too, Jackie. Keep it up.
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						That's why I cycle. It makes me feel good. It did take quite a few miles to get to that state, but now, even if I slack off for a few weeks, the cardio burn of the bike is good. I finally worked out that the idea of biking is…
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>I've always thought of mountaineering and swimming as the two life prolonging forms of exercise.</q></p><p>With swimming, the water acts to provide a shock-absorbing cushion, so the likelihood of overdoing it and munting your joints and muscles is much reduced. It's also a total body workout, and provides both aerobic…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						"Golf is a good walk spoiled" &ndash; Mark Twain
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>This removes golf from being a sport which is an added bonus.</q></p><p>I refuse to participate in any sport that cannot be conducted while holding a Martini.</p><p><q>This removes golf from being a sport which is an added bonus.</q></p><p>Golf is not so much a sport as an insult to…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Running leads to joint problems</q></p><p>And joints lead to running problems. It's kind of reciprocal.</p><p>I've always thought of mountaineering and swimming as the two life prolonging forms of exercise. So long as you neither drown nor fall in the process. Mind you, I don't really know what I base…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Weight training is both though, and I think that's probably the difference. Cycling, and other aerobic pursuits,  pump up the oxygen flow. Weight training is about using your muscles to exhaustion. I'm training with weights 3x a week, but I'm getting up pretty much 5 mornings a week at a…
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				<title>James Butler</title>
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						<p><q>So long as I’ve ridden long enough to get through the sore legs phase, I’m often full of beans after a ride</q></p><p>Aerobic vs. anaerobic exercise perhaps?</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Classic. I’ve never, ever felt less tired from weight training. Quite the opposite, I’ve never encountered any physical exercise that sapped the life out of me quite so much. </q></p><p>How about cycling? So long as I've ridden long enough to get through the sore legs phase, I'm often full of…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Well, yes, and that's my thing, the weights training. All this I do to be strong stroppy old woman. Don't give a fuck how long I live as long as I'm as strong as an ox.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>Oh, you must feel so much less tired</q></p><p>Classic. I've never, ever felt less tired from weight training. Quite the opposite, I've never encountered any physical exercise that sapped the life out of me quite so much. Assuredly I got a hell of a lot stronger. But the cost was…</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Back when "Landslide Reg" Boorman won Wairarapa by a majority of one, those whose right to vote in the electorate seemed questionable were required to appear before an electoral court. The presiding judge expressed scepticism when a gent of markedly unathletic appearance claimed to visit the electorate regularly for "sport".…
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						<p><q>What about those Lawn Bows eh? or Ten Pin Bowling?</q></p><p>Well Bowls is clearly not a <strong>ball</strong> sport, but a <strong>bowl</strong> sport. And in ten-pin bowling you're still trying to get the ball to the opponent's end, if you consider your "opponents" to be the pins (sneaky bastards, always jumping…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Fortunately I've never been KOed, nor even knocked silly, but professional kickboxers I've trained are clearly quite badly brain damaged by the time they reach their 30s. </q></p><p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/jul/19/nfl-star-brain-injuries-destroyed" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Great article here</a> on sports head injuries. The same sort of effects are being seen on soldiers who have had exposure to the…</p>
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						<p><q>Ball sports involve moving a ball to the opponents end of the field,</q></p><p>What about those Lawn Bows eh? or Ten Pin Bowling?</p>
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						<p><q>The thing is "sport" is seen as good. So people who play a "sport" are seen as somehow better. Naturally that leads to a desire to have ones own favourite leisure activity defined as a sport.</q></p><p>Ta, that makes sense to me. There's a largely unquestioned moral overlay, as with…</p>
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						<p>There's also quite a few sports involving physical activity which stand a very good chance of decreasing your fitness. Rugby is one of them. A broken neck tends to lead to physical atrophy.</p><p>Even the quite minor injuries I've had in many sports have actually added up over time to…</p>
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						<p>The semantic argument has, in my experience, never had a winner. The thing is "sport" is seen as good. So people who play a "sport" are seen as somehow better. Naturally that leads to a desire to have ones own favourite leisure activity defined as a sport.</p><p>That of course…</p>
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						<p><q>yeah but why does it matter in the slightest, in this case? really</q></p><p>My reading is that people who want to widen the appeal of sport, probably so that more people will like the RWC, seek to widen the term so that more people feel included. The reverse is the…</p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>them's the brakes...</strong><br /><q>possibly helped by iconic photography by the likes of Brian Brake</q><br />Hang on that's file shearing!<br />Isn't that illegal (according to certain MPs)?<br />:- )</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>applause</q></p><p>Doing lap of honour now.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Champions get a pendant?</q></p><p>The farce is strong in this one.</p>
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						<p><q>Semantics. Which, ironically, is so a sport.</q></p><p>Champions get a pendant?</p>
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						<p><q>The scale of college football is hard to believe sometimes.</q></p><p>I also walked into what I thought was some lecture theatre complex in Purdue, it was in fact their <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackey_Arena" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Basketball stadium</a> 14000 seats. When you look down at the court from the top it is the size of a postage…</p>
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						yeah but why does it matter in the slightest, in this case? really
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						<p><q>Man + log + ax</q></p><p>Have you seen the axewomen! Move over Xena!</p>
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						<p><q>Bring. It. On.</p><p>You're probably taking the piss, but I _love_ watching woodchopping competitions. Man + log + ax. What's not to love.</q></p><p>I don't think he's taking the piss. And I love woodchopping as well. I don't travel out of my way to see it but if it's on…</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						Ooo, that's awesome, thank you.
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						<p><q>yes, what's the point of making a distinction again?</q></p><p>If there is any good purpose at all, it's usually so that you can communicate ideas without confusion. But this kind of debate is very often used to make sure other people can't communicate their ideas. Semantic debate is usually a…</p>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p><q>What are your thoughts on shearing?</q></p><p>My dad worked on a sheep station, but somewhat before my time.  I have this romanticised view of it all, possibly helped by iconic photography by the likes of <a href="http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/ObjectDetails.aspx?oid=572164" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Brian Brake</a>.    <br />He did a nice series of <a href="http://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/ObjectDetails.aspx?oid=572228" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">wood choppers</a> at a fair too.</p>
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						<p><strong>from the embankment...</strong><br /><q> <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/5471837/Bank-overstates-RWC-payoff" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">"I don't have a problem with enjoying the cup ... I just don't really buy there is a strong economic case for supporting these sort of events," Mr Eaqub said.</a></p><p>ANZ chief economist Cameron Bagrie said the tourism boost would be "chunky ... but it is not…</q></p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q>I reckon one could smoke while performing at it, and some judges might give you extra marks for doing so (is that how scoring works in RD?).</q></p><p>One absolutely could not smoke, while playing roller derby, unless one wanted to cause burns to oneself, and other players. Also, it would…</p>
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				<title>Rich of Observationz</title>
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						<p>Is roller derby a sport?</p><p>I reckon one could smoke while performing at it, and some judges might give you extra marks for doing so (is that how scoring works in RD?).</p>
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				<title>Joe Wylie</title>
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						<p><q>Awww Sesqui. We remember ye fondly.</q><br /><a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Antiques-collectables/Silver-metalware-tins/Other/auction-377104023.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SOUVENIR T SPOON NZ SESQUI 1990<br />The auction closed and did not sell.</a></p>
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				<title>Ian Dalziel</title>
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						<p><strong>Politics &ndash; Game or Sport?</strong><br />No balls on show...<br />No real fighting...<br />(or opposition)<br />No sweating...<br />(well maybe some <br />and lots of urgency)<br />No FPP anymore...<br />(Flogging dead horses <br />does occur though)<br />Still attracts cheats...</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>What are your thoughts on shearing? Because I want to get behind that</q></p><p><q>I will never again be able to even think about shearing without remembering David's bus story.</q></p><p>Are you shearing that sheep, Megan, or should I get my own? :)</p>
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						<p><q>Semantics. Which, ironically, is so a sport</q></p><p>so true</p>
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						<p><q>Skydiving is not a sport, but it is really dangerous</q></p><p>Oh, not that dangerous, really. If something goes wrong with your parachute, you have the rest of your life to sort it out.</p>
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						Awww Sesqui. We remember ye fondly.
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>yes, what’s the point of making a distinction again?</q></p><p>Semantics. Which, ironically, is so a sport.</p>
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						<p><q>So, golf isn’t a sport but chess is? I don’t know, but it seems like the old distinction between arts and crafts</q></p><p>yes, what's the point of making a distinction again?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>Re: is (not) a Sport.<br />Sport is a thing where what you do to win directly opposes what the other person is doing to win at the same time.</q></p><p>So, golf isn’t a sport but chess is?  I don’t know, but it seems like the old distinction between arts and…</p>
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				<title>Amy Gale</title>
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						I will never again be able to even <em>think</em> about shearing without remembering <a href="http://publicaddress.net/southerly/overheard-on-a-bus/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">David's bus story</a>.
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						Casting my mind back to my childhood holidays on Auntie Betty's farm in Invercargill... don't they look like that when anything unusual happens? Shearing, drenching, being herded into another paddock... they're kinda twitchy.
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						<p><q>You're probably taking the piss, but I _love_ watching woodchopping competitions. Man + log + ax. What's not to love.</q></p><p>No, I'm serious. I'll be there.</p>
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						<p>Oh, I am all for shearing as a general rule. I assume farmers know more about that than me. It's just that in competition shearing, the sheep always seems slightly distressed. </p><p>But then, what would I know?</p>
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						<p><q>What are your thoughts on shearing? </q></p><p>I justify this by theorising &ndash; in the time-honoured tradition of 'talking bollocks on shit I know squat about' &ndash; that the sheep would be terribly hot come January and thus their initial discomfort is for the greater good. Like trimming your dog's claws.…</p>
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						<p>What are your thoughts on shearing? Because I want to get behind that, but I always worry for the sheep?</p><p>(I once did a live cross from a woodchopping competition at the chch show. I nearly squeed on air.)</p>
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						<p><q>There are many more big, brown, buff gay boys playing rugby here than is generally acknowledged.</q></p><p>*cough* Isn’t it a shame that the usual suspect probably haven't even heard of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Kendall_Bingham_Memorial_Tournament" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Bingham Cup</a>?  Now that’s rugby I could feign an interest in! :)</p>
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						I quite like Speed Chainsawing, too. In fact, the whole Outdoorsperson Does Important Outdoorsy Things With Tools At Speed genre is pretty fun.
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						<p><q>Queens Wharf Main Stage: Sat 22 Oct 2011: Trans Tasman Woodchopping Finals.</p><p>Bring. It. On.</q></p><p>You're probably taking the piss, but I _love_ watching woodchopping competitions. Man + log + ax. What's not to love.</p>
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						<p>Re: is (not) a Sport.<br />Sport is a thing where what you do to win directly opposes what the other person is doing to win at the same time.</p><p>Ball sports involve moving a ball to the opponents end of the field, as they try to take it from you…</p>
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						Is this whole thing really because We As A Nation have never fully workshopped our feelings about Sesqui?
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						<p><q>I gotta say that "Cloud" structure reminds me of nothing so much as a liver fluke &ndash; maybe a subtle reference to the parasitic sponsorship... </q></p><p>It's also been likened to a used condom.</p>
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						No worries luv :) What are you apologising for? It is what it is and all of us are right.   I'm pissed of with bits. I am already paying increased rates There are definitely things I think more important, but we already booked the fucking thing and I guess I…
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						<p><q>As to the sweating thing does it cover nervous/concentration sweat? Because I have played chess tournaments where I have sweated more than from more physical sports.</q></p><p>I am &ndash; quite good- at both Scrabble and chess, but I gave up on tournament games many years ago because I *hate* timed…</p>
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						<p><q> That’s a party.</q></p><p>Ok, I'm sold for 2 weeks checking out the scenes in Auckland down on the waterfront.How long does this RWC go for? I'm all about this music offspring.</p>
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						<p>The best definition I have heard is that 'if you can smoke while doing it then it isn't a sport'. This removes golf from being a sport which is an added bonus.</p><p>As to the sweating thing does it cover nervous/concentration sweat? Because I have played chess tournaments where I…</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>I did not know that. Any of it.</q></p><p>Very moving few minutes on Lew from <a href="http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/lew-pryme---welcome-to-my-world-1990/comments#widget_blog_comments_summary" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">NZ on Screen</a>.</p><p>He was a quite a guy.</p>
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						<p><q>Lest we forget. At the same time he was involved with senior rugby admin in Auckland, he was a co-owner of one of the city’s best clubs, an illicit gay one.</q></p><p>I did not know that. Any of it.</p>
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						<p>Queens Wharf Main Stage: Sat 22 Oct 2011: Trans Tasman Woodchopping Finals.</p><p>Bring. It. On.</p>
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						<p><q>AKL got described once as 'Sydney for beginners'. I forget who said it.</q></p><p>Having lived in both, I would imagine it was said by someone who had lived in neither.</p><p><q>Good point. It's actually a shame someone didn't seek an expression from gay Auckland. </q></p><p>Lest <a href="http://www.sergent.com.au/music/lewpryme.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">we forget</a>. At the same…</p>
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						<p>I gotta say that "Cloud" structure reminds me of nothing so much as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_fluke" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">liver fluke</a> &ndash; maybe a subtle reference to the parasitic sponsorship... <br />I was appalled that St John ambulances have to cover up their "non-RWC-contributing sponsors on their ambulances at the games &ndash; fosters real community spirit…</p>
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						<p><q>and to be there for the concerts could be fun….hmmmm</q></p><p>Friday Sept 16 &mdash; Che Fu on the main stage then The Turnaround at The Cloud till late. That's a party.</p>
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						<p><q>It’s unbelievably ugly. </q></p><p>I saw it from the penthouse apartment of the Hilton, and I gotta admit from there it is kinda trippy and to be there for the concerts could be fun....hmmmm</p>
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						<p><q>No. It’s Auckland trying to be Auckland – not trying to be Sydney. That’s the point.</q></p><p>AKL got described once as 'Sydney for beginners'. I forget who said it.</p>
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						<p><q>Well, we could all pretend I meant ‘waste’ as in ‘what a waste to use it in that daft campaign in the first place, when it could instead be put to a better use leading a revamped Hero Parade along K Road’.</q></p><p>Good point. It's actually a shame someone didn't…</p>
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						<p><q>It seated (permanently) 77000! When a game was on the towns were empty.</q></p><p>Amazing. The scale of college football is hard to believe sometimes.</p>
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						<p><q>What a waste of a good fistmobile.</q></p><p><q>Well, that's what you are meant to think...;)</q></p><p>Well, we could all pretend I meant 'waste' as in 'what a waste to use it in that daft campaign in the first place, when it could instead be put to a better use leading…</p>
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						<p><q>Nope. For some reason, perhaps those apes who problems got eaten, things seem to  float in appropriate places.</q></p><p>I must be descended from the wrong ape.<br />I wonder though about quantum entanglement in such situations.</p>
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						<p><q>the size of this in international terms</q></p><p>Perspective was rammed home to me when I moved to College Station Texas (pop. ~50k incl. students) it is a twin city with Bryan (also pop. ~50k). </p><p>The University had a Gridiron stadium as you'd expect. </p><p>It seated (permanently) 77000! When a game…</p>
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						<p>Holy shit!</p><p>Having dissed The Cloud, I now feel bound to point out that I'll be getting down there for a bunch of the <a href="http://www.auckland2011.com/The-Tournament-in-Auckland/Festivals-and-Fan-zone/Queens-Wharf.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">free entertainment</a> &mdash; Pitch Black, P Money, Sola Rosa, Nick Dwyer, etc. Subject to weather, those nights look like a lot of fun.</p><p>From media reports,…</p>
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						<p><q>In naked swimming, the balls are even on display.</p><p>And even in the way, try a vigorous “Crawl” where there would be a high probability of entanglement.</q></p><p>Nope. For some reason, perhaps those apes who had problems got eaten, things seem to  float in appropriate places.</p>
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						<p><q>designed to take the piss out of crap</q></p><p>Well, that’s enlightening. Yes that describes it fantastically. Yes te idea is to enjoy oneself. Trouble is for those not really interested already feel a little annoyed at the cost “blow” outs ,the perceived expensive unachievable for average kiwi  “support” clothing, and…</p>
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						<p><q>Whoops – another tweet :)</p><p>It wasn’t aimed at you, I promise</q></p><p>Oh, never for a second thought it was. Just ticking things off my mental checklist.</p><p>Made a lot of progress on my LATE at the Museum for October this week, and I think I'll have the Great Blend…</p>
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						<p><q>PS: Will get on to that email for you soonest.</q></p><p>Whoops &ndash; another tweet :)</p><p>It wasn't aimed at you, I promise, but so many businesses in NZ. You try to put money in their pockets but the reaction time is often appalling when put next to trans-Tasman counterparts.</p><p>On…</p>
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						<p><q>I can’t remember (gee, I wonder why) what my effort in that particular competition was, but i remember being miffed that you won.</q></p><p>To be fair, I may have been remarkably pleased with myself for doing so.</p>
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						<p>My point, you have made it. </p><p>I can't remember (gee, I wonder why) what my effort in that particular competition was, but i remember being miffed that you won.</p>
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						<p><q> <em>It’s a pleasant novelty hearing sport discussed by people who can form complex sentences.</em></p><p>Hey, you witnessed a Dropkicks podcast, it’s not the first time you’ve seen that</q></p><p>Ahem – I was <em>in</em> one. And I consider my impromptu Sarah Ulmer haiku a career highlight:</p><p><q>Sweet Sarah Ulmer<br />The nation;…</q></p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<p><q>Which one is he?</q></p><p>The one in the <a href="http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1287112008/925/2703925.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">bisexual tourism initiative</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>What a waste of a good fistmobile.</q></p><p>Well, that's what you are meant to think...;)</p>
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						<p><q>Which one is he?</q></p><p>The one in his undies.</p>
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						<p><q>I don’t care that Dan Carter can frequently be seen in his underpants on billboards,</q></p><p>Which one is he?</p>
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						<q>My tweet – I can’t speak for others – was a reaction to the endless barracking in the media, face to face and elsewhere I faced about the size of this in international terms when back in NZ. It’s disinformation – untrue even. It made no qualitative judgements about our…</q>
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						<p><q>Hey, you witnessed a Dropkicks podcast, it’s not the first time you’ve seen that.</q></p><p>At least in the early portions of the evening.</p><p>Hey, Green, where's my flash drive?</p>
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				<title>Simon Grigg</title>
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						<p><q>It's 80 minutes. Guards, seize him!</q></p><p>Oh, fuck. I was tempted to google that bit. I've actually tossing around for airfares to NZ in late Sept  &ndash; there all sorts of specials going surprisingly &ndash; but may keep my safe distance after that. I bet it goes on my passport…</p>
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						<p><q>I hope they (being the ardent followers of the game) have a happy ending</q></p><p>more likely now that the no-sex madness has been canned</p>
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						<p><q>I promise to tread more lightly when discussing the hallowed 90 mins in future.</q></p><p>It's 80 minutes. Guards, seize him!</p>
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						<p><q>See above, re: unsolicited information as to how many people go to things in Proper Countries.</q></p><p>I was one of those and I think my comment is kinda being misconstrued a little/lot. Point of smoothing first: I kinda think that the RWC has allowed or forced some work that needed…</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q> It’s a pleasant novelty hearing sport discussed by people who can form complex sentences.</q></p><p>Hey, you witnessed a Dropkicks podcast, it's not the first time you've seen that.</p>
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						<p><q>Yup. Jedeye is back</q></p><p>Ta. Is he any good? The Gialappa’s Band commentary back home sustained me during USA 94 in particular, it was great. When Italy missed the last penalty in the final they shouted GOAL!, which set off an interesting, <em>really</em> alternative period of commentary.</p><p>Mind you, the…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>Is there anything planned in terms of alternative commentary to the games themselves (you know, something a comedic bent that one switches on after having muted the telly)?</q></p><p>Yup. <a href="http://www.arcrugby.co.nz/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jedeye is back</a>.</p>
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						<p><q>Given that the word "sport" originates in the Old French desporter, "to divert, amuse, please, play", that would indicate that an abstinence campaign would have to be the most anti-sport gesture one could make.</q></p><p>Especially given that a certain part of sports-watching is the sublimated sexual thrill of watching fit…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Maori Television's Sin Bin looks like it'll be fun too.</q></p><p>Is there anything planned in terms of alternative commentary to the games themselves (you know, something a comedic bent that one switches on after having muted the telly)?</p>
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						I'm thinking next week would be good. I'm on High Court jury duty the week after that, so I'll be incognito......
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						<p><q>Let me fix that for you.</q></p><p>That's some quality social satire there, that is.</p>
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						<p>I did quite enjoy watching Hilary Barry, John Campbell and Mike McRoberts acting out the surprisingly common news journalist’s fantasy of being a sports pundit on the first ep of <a href="http://www.3news.co.nz/One-Off-The-Ruck–episode-one/tabid/317/articleID/222285/Default.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">One off the Ruck</a>. It’s a pleasant novelty hearing sport discussed by people who can form complex sentences.</p><p>Maori Television’s…</p>
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						<p>Tangling is far less of an issue than other players simply ripping them off you, and them tossing them around between themselves, before flinging them as hard as they can muster at the goal. They can be thrown so hard they literally bounce off the water.</p><p>Can't do beers tonight,…</p>
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						<p><q>(embed?) </q></p><p>Like all things holy (e or no e?) I don't think it likes the short form.  Let me fix that for you.<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOVqDxlAA9g&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOVqDxlAA9g&amp;feature=youtu.be</a></p>
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						<p><q>If you don’t sweat it isn’t a sport</q></p><p>If that is the case then it would be quite difficult to tell if swimming were a sport or not.<br />@Ben.<br /><q>In naked swimming, the balls are even on display. </q> And even in the way, try a vigorous "Crawl" where there would…</p>
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						<p>Wham! were awesome. Are they going to be Official Boy Band Of The Rugby World Cup? I hope so.</p><p><a href="http://youtu.be/dOVqDxlAA9g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://youtu.be/dOVqDxlAA9g</a></p><p><em> (embed?) </em></p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Looks like I was busy for 13 minutes.
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						<p><q>Didn't say that fitting the definition of a "sport" was more praiseworthy.</q></p><p>No you didn't, but it's the subtext when people refer to chess, snooker or dance sport as "not <em>real</em> sport".</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Oh, for the love of all things holy!</q></p><p>I swear I was timing you.</p>
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						<p><q>Why Oh why can't the RWC be like the Wellington 7's </q></p><p>Oh, for the love of all things holy!</p>
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						<p><q>Why Oh why can’t the RWC be like the Wellington 7’s which even non-rugby players can enjoy?</q></p><p>oh but everyone in wellington hates the 7s, didn't you know that ;)</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Why Oh why can’t the RWC be like the Wellington 7’s which even non-rugby players can enjoy?</q></p><p>It can. </p><p>It is.</p><p>And not everyone will dress in silly clothes either.</p><p>And some folks won't be interested.</p><p>All just like the Wtgn 7s</p>
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						Why Oh why can't the RWC be like the Wellington 7's which even non-rugby players can enjoy?. NZers (OK, Welllingtonians) can get into a carnival spirit. Yet RWC has such an air of commercial compulsion about it. Ironically the strongest rugby city, Christchurch, becomes the former-RWC-Centre which shall not be…
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>Yeah, I was teasing Bart, because he knows I’m all about the Wham love.</q></p><p>Equally I have to uphold the "We hate Wham" banner. We all have our roles to play in this world :).</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Chess is definitely a sport then.</q></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Chess boxing</a> should be an Olympic sport.</p><p>And <a href="http://www.airguitarworldchampionships.com/en/event/agwc-2011" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">competitive air guitar</a>.</p>
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						<p>I think your reply to me was meant to be 'I relent, Wham are awesome!'</p><p>That's Ok, I read between the lines.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q> I really think this is not a workable definition at all.</q></p><p>Just one reason why it's useless, but that doesn't stop it being the best definition I know. Best does not necessarily equal good.</p>
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						<p><q>what it is about sweating that makes an activity more praiseworthy than a perspirationless one</q></p><p>Didn't say that fitting the definition of a "sport" was more praiseworthy.</p><p>But sweat has it's moments.</p>
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				<title>Stephen Judd</title>
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						<p><q> If you don’t sweat it isn’t a sport</q></p><p>So darts, shooting, archery and billiards are not sports? Interesting. Actually do you sweat if you pole vault, throw discus or javelin? I always take longer than 5 minutes to sweat doing most anything at normal NZ temperatures. I really think this…</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						Given that the word "sport" originates in the Old French <em>desporter</em>, "to divert, amuse, please, play", that would indicate that an abstinence campaign would have to be the most anti-sport gesture one could make.
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						<p><q>Well, according to Wikipedia to qualify as a Sport it must involve Balls.</q></p><p>Chess is definitely a sport then.</p>
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						<p><q>You see what you’ve made me do?</q></p><p>Poor baby, there there.</p>
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				<title>Jackie Clark</title>
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						Why yes, Ngaire, yes they were.
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p><q>Lots of people liked Wham! and therefore they were awesome? :D</q></p><p>Yeah, I was teasing Bart, because he knows I'm all about the Wham love.</p>
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				<title>Ngaire BookieMonster</title>
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						Lots of people liked Wham! and therefore they were awesome? :D
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>Best definition I heard (and still useless) ... If you don't sweat it isn't a sport, if you do sweat it might be a sport but might not.</q></p><p>Well, since most dictionary definitions of the noun "sport" require athleticism or "physical prowess", I suppose I would have to go along…</p>
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						<p><q>Well, according to Wikipedia to qualify as a Sport it must involve Balls.<br />So Ballroom dancing qualifies because it has room for the defining object.</q></p><p>Surely anything involving a non-eunuch male qualifies, too? In naked swimming, the balls are even on display. OK, maybe not in cold water.</p><p>ETA: When…</p>
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				<title>Sacha</title>
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						<p><q>when he eulogised Paul Reynolds.</q></p><p>should have been: (the other) Paul Reynolds. <br />sorry, Paul</p>
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				<title>recordari</title>
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						<p><q>    The more people like a thing, the better it is!</p><p><em>Wham!</em></q></p><p>Your point is?</p><p>In future, when you look up 'relentless', this thread will be mentioned.  Just sayin'.</p>
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				<title>Bart Janssen</title>
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						<p><q>I’m still thinking about the logistics of naked swimming competitions.</q></p><p>Did I mention I used to hold most of the trophies at the nudist club swimming competition :).</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p><q>So it goes.</q></p><p>Or, in the case of the offending ad campaign, So it went.<br />;-)</p>
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						<p><q>I think there’s a good argument that they’ve screwed the pooch by making the rugby season last all year, for sure.</q></p><p>For me it was when Rugby impinged on the cricket season, so I chose not to watch the beginning of the Rugby season and somehow lost interest in the…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>admittedly stolen from Kurt Vonnegut</q></p><p>So it goes.</p>
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				<title>Steve Barnes</title>
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						<p>Well, according to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Wikipedia</a> to qualify as a Sport it must involve Balls.<br />So Ballroom dancing qualifies because it has room for the defining object.</p>
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						<p><q>Upon leaving this thread a few hours ago, I didn't think it would mutate into a culture wars thread. </q></p><p>I'm not surprised it's happened, and feel better that it has. It drew people on both sides, something that there's been a bit of a lack of at times in PAS…</p>
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						<p><q>Chess is a game; Ballroom Dancing is a competition bordering on a sport.</q></p><p>Best definition I heard (and still useless) ... If you don't sweat it isn't a sport, if you do sweat it might be a sport but might not.</p>
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						<p><q>The more people like a thing, the better it is! </q></p><p>Wham!</p>
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						<p>Well that was short lived, the Telecom ad that is. I can now understand the Latest Logo, admittedly stolen from <a href="http://www.chrisgenoa.com/archives/2007/04/12/so_it_goes/ " target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> Kurt Vonnegut</a> <q>The above drawing by Vonnegut is from Breakfast of Champions. It's of an asshole.</q> Kevin Roberts? fixated much?<br />Anyway, something must be done to get these…</p>
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						<p><q>a real NZ biscuit</q></p><p>another important topic</p>
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						<p>Crikey, that was a lot of work catching up. So many good points &ndash; and that Aussie clip was brilliant thanks <a href="http://publicaddress.net/system/topic/3190/?p=225282#post225282" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">James</a>.</p><p>Rugby culture is part of New Zealand's story/stories about ourselves. And the corporatisation of sports and the event industry's taste for public subsidy is relevant too. So yes,…</p>
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						I'm with you man, I just ate a (Wellington on a Plate) burger and drank (some very nice) beer for lunch
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>You'd think.</q></p><p>You're not going to start again, are you?</p><p>Although I suppose that two weeks of idiotic excitment leaves four whole weeks for the bitter resentment. So I guess it could work.</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q>On the RWC front I’m just really, really bored with media turning it into an ongoing series of “Look How We F*ck Everything Up”. Can’t we just be idiotically excited enough to feel good about ourselves for a couple of weeks?</q></p><p>You'd think.</p>
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						<p><q>And, uh, I'm now almost totally ashamed to admit it but those Sky ads made me giggle.</q></p><p>What, you blew 93 days straight without giggling at advertising? Corporate loving hussy, repent!</p>
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						<p>On the RWC front I’m just really, really bored with media turning it into an ongoing series of “Look How We F*ck Everything Up”. Can’t we just be idiotically excited enough to feel good about ourselves for a couple of weeks?</p><p>And, uh, I’m now almost totally ashamed to admit…</p>
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						<p><q>And I don’t deserve a dram by way of thanks?</q></p><p>Bags you have the grappa.</p>
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						<p>They missed the best:</p><p>Lady Mary Crawley: Sybil is entitled to her opinions. <br />Violet, Dowager Countess of Grantham: No. She isn't until she is married, then her husband will tell her what her opinions are.</p>
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						<p><q>Surely one has staff for that kind of thing, though, no?</q></p><p>For the fishing? Um, no, I'd just buy it from the shop if I wanted the fish. Way cheaper. I'm a catch-and-release dude anyway, keeping maybe one or two medium sized snapper to justify half a day of idle…</p>
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						<p><q>. In the ongoing commercialisation of rugby, the commercial imagery still rests heavily on nostalgic depictions of the “heartland” and “grass roots”. Personally, I’d rather occupy the headlands than the heartland, and I’d rather not dirty my co-respondent shoes by walking on grass.</q></p><p>I feel the need to point out…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>What, pray tell, is a Rugby World Cup? (Memo to self: Blackmail Maggie Smith into recording my answering machine message.)</q></p><p><a href="http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/01/downton_abbey_maggie_smith_quo.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Maggie's top ten zingers.</a></p><p>Possibly a little too much channelling of The Spirit of Lady Bracknell*, but wonderful, nonetheless.</p><p>*Great name for a yacht. Which would of course come with…</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>In your own home, no, that's just prudent. But if you're out fishing and that's all that's on the boat, you're really suffering for your sophistication. </q></p><p>I tend to avoid any boat that's too small to have a barista and bartender.</p>
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						I remember them. I could happily forget them. That unsubtle appeal to patriotism using somebody who gets paid shitloads more than any of us ever will and then, when he doesn't get selected, sulks off to France.
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						It's a business &ndash; the companies are trying their utmost to separate us from our money, that's how capitalism works &ndash; to me, someone who finds rugby quite "meh", it punches all my cynical buttons, I simply see people being swept up in the marketing frenzy .... yet it's NZ…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>You see what you've made me do?</q></p><p>And I don't deserve a dram by way of thanks?</p>
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				<title>Craig Ranapia</title>
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						<p><q>#watchingtoomuchdowntonabbeyrecently</q></p><p>What, pray tell, is a Rugby World Cup? (Memo to self: Blackmail Maggie Smith into recording my answering machine message.)</p>
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						I remember those. The kind of advertising that mugs you.
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p><q> I thought it would mutate into the Rugby World Cup PR crisis of the day thread (today’s being the Webb Ellis Trophy replica story).</q></p><p>Oh, I’m sure the 7pm current affairs shows will do an extremely thorough job of covering that highly important issue …</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>It's really only bucolic in so far as NZ is bucolic.</q></p><p>Quite. But I tend to include certain aspects of suburbia within the rubric "bucolic", and despite statistics saying that New Zealand is highly "urbanised", it is more accurate to say that we're suburbanised or provincial-town-ised.</p><p>More importantly, the rural…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>if you're out fishing</q></p><p>Surely one has staff for that kind of thing, though, no?</p><p>#watchingtoomuchdowntonabbeyrecently</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<p>Dammit, I've now had to cheer myself up by impulse-purchasing the "delicately light, sweet and malty" <a href="http://www.whiskygalore.co.nz/webstore/product.php?productid=16627&amp;cat=0&amp;page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Glenfarclas 10 year-old</a> and the dark and thunderously peated <a href="http://www.whiskygalore.co.nz/webstore/product.php?productid=19072&amp;cat=313&amp;page=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Adelphi 'Breath of Islay' 11 year-old</a>.</p><p>You see what you've made me do?</p>
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				<title>Stewart</title>
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						<p>It is a question of how the RWC and ancilliary events are being promoted via sponsors and the media, compared with how we, the fans/the population/the affected see the whole thing.</p><p>I think people, on an individual level, are fine with most of it.  I <em>know</em>  I am but I…</p>
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						I kind of agree with Gio. The RWC is a system, or a culture, if you will, and &ndash; unsurprisingly, for some &ndash; it's become wee a bit of a horror-show.
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				<title>David Hood</title>
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						Upon leaving this thread a few hours ago, I didn't think it would mutate into a culture wars thread. I thought it would mutate into the Rugby World Cup PR crisis of the day thread (today's being the Webb Ellis Trophy replica story).
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						In your own home, no, that's just prudent. But if you're out fishing and that's all that's on the boat, you're really suffering for your sophistication. Too far, in my book, I'll happily sip the instant, for both the warmth of the cup, the sugar and caffeine hit, and if…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Adidas through what was then Saatchis Wellington did some quite powerful commercials in earlier days.</q></p><p>The ones I'm thinking of &ndash; buggered if I can find them &ndash; are the posters with a slogan along the lines of "our everything is nothing without your [platitude translating as: buying of an…</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>Refusing to drink instant coffee, and putting up with caffeine cravings?</q></p><p>Or in my case, making sure I am never in that situation ("I am glad to say I've never seen a spade" etc).</p>
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				<title>James Francis</title>
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						Yes. Sorry about that. I just had a quick squizz before linking them. Adidas through what was then Saatchis Wellington did some quite powerful commercials in earlier days.
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				<title>Islander</title>
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						+1, many times over.
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				<title>BenWilson</title>
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						<p><q>It's a question of where you draw the line of too sophisticated. </q></p><p>Refusing to drink instant coffee, and putting up with caffeine cravings?</p><p><q>but there are certain aspects of the hype that suggest an atavistic irruption of bucolic blokiness,</q></p><p>Blokey, certainly, but bucolic? Not any more. It's corporatized, commercialized and…</p>
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				<title>Rich Lock</title>
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						<p><q>Personally, I'd draw it just below the Algonquin Round Table. </q></p><p>That Dorothy Parker was quite a hottie for a stuck-up cow, though, eh?</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<p><q>Most of us are. You can tell, because we're the ones saying the ad was stupid. We're not the ones blaming the tournament and every fan for something one company does.</q></p><p>Nah, it's not about one company, in fact it's got very little to do with Telecom. This idea that…</p>
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				<title>Tom Ackroyd</title>
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						Those YouTube clips: the second one is an horrific hijack of a 1999 Saatchi spot for Adidas, which had the end line “Forever Sport”. The third is plainly, er, “user content”.
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						<p><q> are we just talking things that will benefit the advertiser, like accepting that paying over the odds for Telecom’s services is for the greater good?</q></p><p>That's about the size of it.</p>
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				<title>Megan Wegan</title>
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						<p><q>Can’t we just make it about the game, and hope that our team wins, and hope that it’s fun, without loading it with the nation’s future and our sense of selves and smuggling the whole culture along with it? </q></p><p>Most of us are. You can tell, because we're the ones…</p>
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						<q>On the other hand, I'd say that the RWC is a cultural festival in its own right. Rugby is a genuine popular cultural expression here, no matter how commercial or professional, like football in Brazil... On the gripping hand, I am tired of the presumption in much of the commercial…</q>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<p><q>Sophistication is a good thing, in moderation. Being too sophisticated has always seemed neurotic to me. In the end, it often turns into simple prejudice, with extremely complex justification.</q></p><p>It's a question of where you draw the line of <em>too</em> sophisticated. Personally, I'd draw it just below the Algonquin Round…</p>
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						I’m torn. One the one hand, I’m in the 2/3 of NZ that either doesn’t care or actively dislikes the RWC. On the other hand, I’d say that the RWC <em>is a cultural festival in its own right</em>. Rugby is a genuine popular cultural expression here, no matter how commercial…
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						<p><q>Don’t be silly. What it takes seriously is the proposition that the sporting victory of our rugby players is predicated on the sacrifice of the whole country, like in a war.</q><br />I’ll have to take your word for it, since I tend to filter adverts from my life, including these…</p>
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