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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I could probably only just swim 151m, just thinking about doing it underwater...</p></blockquote><p>I was slightly obsessive about underwater swimming as a kid &mdash; I could get to the end of the local 25m pool (with a dive) and part way back. And that was a <em>long</em> way. 151m is…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I need a physicist to explain why it's more efficient to swim under the water without your arms, than above the water with your arms. Logic would have told me to get to the surface of the water fairly quickly.</p></blockquote><p>Waves and turbulence slow you down faster than friction. Most…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'd alwasy figured that although it didn't land in it, with the fumes of the thing, it almost certainly ignited it anyway.</p></blockquote><p>And we all remember Muhammad Ali burning his arm in Atlanta</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>who remembers the Barcelona opening ceremony, and the newsreaders breathlessly informing us later how the flaming arrow never actually landed in the fire? Like they'd have left that in any way to chance.</p></blockquote><p>I'd alwasy figured that although it didn't land in it, with the fumes of the thing, it…</p>
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				<title>Kyle Matthews</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I think it's all strokes. And there's a rule about how many kicks and strokes you can do underwater at the turns. I think that's a big factor in Phelps' success is the "ground" he makes up underwater.</p></blockquote><p>Also the most efficient kick you can do underwater is the butterfly…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The rule is that freestylers must surface within 15 m of starting a lap and swim with part of their body above the water... </p><p>That's freestyle too? I thought that was one (or more) of the other strokes.</p></blockquote><p>I think it's all strokes. And there's a rule about how many…</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:27:59 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Josh Addison</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I wonder if the likes of Mike McRoberts etc. actually believe that all the scenes in LOTR were real too…</p></blockquote><p>Indeed &ndash; who remembers the Barcelona opening ceremony, and the newsreaders breathlessly informing us later how the flaming arrow never actually landed in the fire? Like they'd have left that…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>"So you didn't win. How did that make you feel?"</p></blockquote><p>It's <a href="http://www.reelviews.net/php_reelthoughts_template.php?identifier=493" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">not confined to NZ</a></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:17:04 +1200</pubDate>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The rule is that freestylers must surface within 15 m of starting a lap and swim with part of their body above the water. Guess because it makes better TV to have the swimmers visible even if it is possible to stay submerged and go faster.</p></blockquote><p>That's freestyle too? I…</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						Another contender for a Colemanballs award (copyright Private Eye): John McBeth referred several times last night to the swimmer from Czechoslovakia. Has he been doing this for the last four Olympics?
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				<title>3410</title>
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						Anyone worked out how to fix Firefox for TVNZ's Olymic vids? I installed silverlight, but it still doesn't work.
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Post-swim interview was unsurpringly poor, though.</p></blockquote><p>"So you didn't win. How did that make you feel?"</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Great swim.</p></blockquote><p>It was. Won't be celebrated much at home without a medal, I'm guessing, but under the circumstances he did very, very well.</p><p>Post-swim interview was unsurpringly poor, though.</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<p>From BBC.</p><p>"US swimmer Michael Phelps became the greatest Olympic athlete in history, winning his 10th gold medal with victory in the 200m butterfly. </p><p>Phelps claimed his fourth gold medal of the Beijing Olympics and 10th of all time in a world record of 1:52.03. </p><p>The 23-year-old beat Hungary's Laszlo…</p>
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				<title>Angus Robertson</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Also just as a side note: Freestyle means you can swim that race (or leg) in any style you want. It's just that the front crawl is the fastest, so everyone uses that.</p></blockquote><p>Not necessarily. The rule is that freestylers must surface within 15 m of starting a lap and…</p>
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				<title>Graeme Edgeler</title>
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						<blockquote><p>So can I assume that means American Gold?</p></blockquote><p>Not just American gold. According to Stuff:</p><blockquote><p>With the win in his signature event, the 200 metres butterfly, <em>Phelps became the greatest Olympian in history</em>, his ten gold medals surpassing the likes of "Flying Finn" Paavo Nurmi, Americans Carl Lewis and Mark…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I was just watching Burmester pipped for a medal in a time of 1:54.35, a New Zealand and Commonwealth record on the TVNZ third stream</p></blockquote><p>So can I assume that means American Gold and no medal for Aussie?<br />(can't watch at work)</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						I was just watching Burmester pipped for a medal  in a time of 1:54.35, a New Zealand and Commonwealth record on the TVNZ third stream and have just discovered the actual TV feed failed and on one watching TV saw the race.
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				<title>Sofie Bribiesca</title>
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						<blockquote>Great Men's team Gymnastics yesterday. Some pretty incredible performances </blockquote> Yes . I  thought for a moment there that Emma Hart must have been knitting furiously :) I was  impressed.
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And the shock / horror in the lip-synching by the 9 year-old who happened to be more telegenic than the real singer has been nothing short of xenophobic.</p></blockquote><p>People are conveniently forgetting that sports stadiums don't typically have fantastic acoustics and it's <em>normal</em> for singers at sports events to lip…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						The <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/4654259a26500.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Togo kayaker pic</a>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>I wonder if the likes of Mike McRoberts etc. actually believe that all the scenes in LOTR were real too…</p><p>And the shock / horror in the lip-synching by the 9 year-old who happened to be more telegenic than the real singer has been nothing short of xenophobic.  Spice Girls…</p>
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				<title>Shep  Cheyenne</title>
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						<p>Brilliant wasn't it. He celebrated more than the guy who won, loved it.</p><p>I've been waiting for the "corrupt official" event. You know &ndash; the one where the cousin of the official gets to learn to swim and then needs to be saved from drowning in the first heat,  only…</p>
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						Great Men's team Gymnastics yesterday. Some pretty incredible performances and the crowd was going nuts as China's victory drew towards certainty. Women's today.
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>Anyone else see the Men’s slalom kayaking last night?  (And why are we not a contender there?)</p><p>Highlight was the guy from that well-known mountain river rapids nation of Togo, who got bronze.</p><p>In his celebrations he smashed his paddle clean in two.  He stopped for about .5 of a…</p>
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				<title>Robyn Gallagher</title>
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						<blockquote><p>and yet for some reason the beach volleyball girls still have to wear bikinis</p></blockquote><p>The front page of this morning's Dom Post had a small pic of two female volleyball players hugging after (I assume) winning their game. That might sound fairly ordinary, but one of them had her hand…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						From what I can tell the fireworks were real and were set off, but the camera footage was fake.
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				<title>Mark Thomas</title>
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						yuh we thought the fireworks flyby looked obviously fake too.  i guess they thought it was too fake to pull off, so they'd better admit it.  it must've been an odd thought process that lead to the decision to CGI fireworks
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How about those pretty fireworks?</p></blockquote><p>When we were watching the firework footprints I said "that looks like CGI". Then there was a shot inside the stadium with the fireworks exploding overhead and I said, "wow that was real". I feel kinda duped.</p><blockquote><p>P'raps they can also sketch in a few…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Alan Macdougall</title>
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						<blockquote><p>How about those pretty fireworks? P'raps they can also sketch in a few happy smiling family members to watch from the empty seats.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, what's with that? Where are all the crowds? </p><p>Is it possible that the local population just isn't that interested? (Or maybe their interest is in other…</p>
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote>My Dad, who was at the 1976 Olympics, who had friendly rivalry with the Canadian he was staying with over whose team would perform better, tells a story of the day he was able to inform his mate that New Zealand had won 11 gold medals in a single day…</blockquote>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Hey, it turns out I <strong>can</strong> emulate Phelps.</p><p>From the BBC:</p><p><em>"I have been eating a lot of pasta and pizza, a lot of carbs. I have been eating and sleeping as much as I can."</em></p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<blockquote><p>they'll both have acheieved their aim.</p></blockquote><p>Who cares about them? The medal table is for us and our blobby butts, so we don't have to ring Murray Deaker and moan that we're below Uzbekistan because our kids have been captured by politically correct teachers who don't keep the score.</p><p>It's…</p>
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				<title>Paul Dowden</title>
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						<blockquote><p>And I still love that world-record green line zooming along the pool, and the country names on the lanes (in the rowing too)</p></blockquote><p>How about those <a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/olympic-fireworks-digitally-faked-449304" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">pretty fireworks</a>? P'raps they can also sketch in a few <a href="http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/08/11/Empty_Water_Cube_leaves_swimmers_families_furious" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">happy smiling family members</a> to watch from the empty seats.</p>
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				<title>Gabor Toth</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Fencing uniforms comments of my last post) wires for fencers have been around for a while. They still have the shorts with the high socks though.</p></blockquote><p>Electronic scoring for Foil and Epee has been around for ages and was relatively easy to do because those two fencing disciplines are…</p>
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						<blockquote><p><em>How NZ can match Phelps</em></p><p>That was exactly my argument too.</p></blockquote><p>My Dad, who was at the 1976 Olympics, who had friendly rivalry with the Canadian he was staying with over whose team would perform better, tells a story of the day he was able to inform his mate that…</p>
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						<p>Darren Liddell won 3 Commonwealth golds in KL, thanks to the generous double (triple) dipping rules. With that, NZ zoomed up the medal table, was no longer a Nation In Decline, and Jenny Shipley was saved.*</p><p><br />*until France.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>...I suggest though that they get rid of the butterfly, breaststroke and backstroke as freestyle is the fastest. Why the hell would you do something a slower way and then turn it into a competition...</p></blockquote><p>and now I shall attempt to defend swimming, after dissing it.</p><p>You do those strokes…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>How NZ can match Phelps</p></blockquote><p>That was exactly my argument too.</p><p>Weightlifting is the same. It's not like they get a medal for the snatch and another for the clean and jerk.</p>
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				<title>noizyboy</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I mean, these swimmers are great, but that's what the medal haul really comes down to: opportunities, arbitrarily decided.</p></blockquote><p>indeed. yamis over at blogging it real <a href="http://bloggingitreal.blogspot.com/2008/08/sport-but-not-as-we-know-it.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">raised the same point the other day</a>...</p><blockquote><p>WHAT THE FUCK? 50m free style, 100m, 200m, 400m, 1500m, 10km marathon swim, plus the relay versions…</p></blockquote>
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						<p>How NZ can match Phelps (and Spitz, and Biondi ...):</p><p>Olympic Rowing Events:</p><p>2000m: Waddell &amp; Drysdale (same boat), Waddell &amp; Drysdale (relay boats), Waddell, Drysdale.<br />1500m: Waddell &amp; Drysdale (same boat), Waddell &amp; Drysdale (relay boats), Waddell, Drysdale.<br />1000m: Waddell &amp; (you get the picture)</p><p>Repeat for women<br />Repeat for mixed<br />Repeat, but facing…</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						Oh, my mistake then. The split times are broken down a bit <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/olympics/2008/08/mens_4x100_freestyle_relay_som.html?hpid=artslot" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">here</a>. I'm not sure what it all means, though.
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				<title>Bob Munro</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But is he the greatest Olympian of all time?</p></blockquote><p>Apart from Zeus himself of course, I should think Steve Redgrave would be in the frame?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Yes, turning into another person is truly amazing, even for someone as talented as Phelps.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I got that. I was talking about Phelps' last 25m. Where he was trailing the Australian by maybe 2m and he caught it up.</p>
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				<title>Jake Pollock</title>
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						<blockquote><p>His last 25m in the relay where he just turned it on and caught up to first was stunning.</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.rediff.com/sports/2008/aug/11lazek.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Yes, turning into another person is truly amazing, even for someone as talented as Phelps.</a></p>
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						<p>Phelps is the most freakish athlete I have ever seen. I always thought Thorpe was good, but Phelps is really something else. His last 25m in the relay where he just turned it on and caught up to first was stunning.</p><p>But is he the greatest Olympian of all time?</p>
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						<p>Look at Phelps at the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">end of the 200m freestyle.</a><br />  Gold in World Record time. It's like 'Is anyone else going to join me at this end of the pool?'</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Australia sports teams seem to have completely lost it on the uniform front.</p></blockquote><p>To be fair, you're screwed from the outset if your apparel choices can only come in yellow and green. They can call it gold all they want but the rest of us will always know it's yellow…</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						<p>The man-bra! I love it. Diabolical isn't it? What were they thinking?</p><p>And the blue shell suits the Aussie athletes were wearing on Friday night have been described by some as 'sucked popsicles'.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Australia sports teams seem to have completely lost it on the uniform front. That man-bra thing the Wallabies wear has to be the ugliest international jersey ever.</p></blockquote><p>The Walla-bra is sported by any international team that wears Canterbury jerseys. Scotland, Ireland, the USA.</p><p>The Aussie women basketballers have also had…</p>
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				<title>Russell Brown</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Phew! did anyone else think the Australian uniform sucked at the opening ceremony? it seems to be universally unpopular among the Aussie public too.</p></blockquote><p>Australia sports teams seem to have completely lost it on the uniform front. That man-bra thing the Wallabies wear has to be the ugliest international jersey…</p>
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						Phew! did anyone else think the Australian uniform sucked at the opening ceremony? it seems to be universally unpopular among the Aussie public too.
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						<blockquote><p>is this the safe 'it's okay to just talk about the sport' zone?</p></blockquote><p>it's ok Charles, you're among friends</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						<p>Wow! that's a spectacularly stupid gesture by the Spanish basketballers!</p><p>It is worse than the blunder committed by the four US cyclists that got off a flight at Beijing airport in their masks.</p>
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				<title>Charles Mabbett</title>
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						Ummm, is this the safe 'it's okay to just talk about the sport' zone? What a relief!
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						<p>Oh man, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/11/olympicsbasketball.olympics20081" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Spain is not going to be popular</a>:</p><blockquote><p>Spain's Olympic basketball teams have risked upsetting their Chinese hosts by posing for a pre-Games advert making slit-eyed gestures. The advert for a courier company, which is an official sponsor of the Spanish Basketball Federation, occupied a full page in the…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>a voice would intone, every time his frontage hove into view "Allo boys..."</p></blockquote><p>The Italian rowing crew seemed to be very happy to receive their medals at the Athens Olympics. Many jokes about where the medals would be hung, ensued.</p>
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						<blockquote><p>Does anyone remember a viral video of men's sprinting, in slow motion, frontal view in tight lycra, with added sound effects?</p></blockquote><p>I do recall <a href="http://www.royandhg.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Roy &amp; HG</a> at the Sydney Olympics, as a lycra clad male gymnast spun around on a pommel horse (or whatever they are)... a voice would intone,…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>A question on sailing.....Has board sailing always had different rules from "real" yachts</p></blockquote><p>Yes, and being allowed to hit the marks is just one difference. The other main one is that the sailors are allowed to "pump" the sails to generate movement. Other classes are penalised for doing that.</p><blockquote><p>Watched…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Finally, I don’t want to offend anyone in just my second post, but, badminton may just be the most boring sport to be played at high speed.</p></blockquote><p>Boring?</p><p>Watched John Moody get totally crushed by Chen Jin last night.  John Moody is the best NZer with good reflexes, very fit,…</p>
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						A question on sailing.....   All my life, sailors have been penalized for touching a mark (buoy) as its rounded....  but last night, many of the board sailers were making a habit of it....  some gently swiped it, and others had full-on dragging it along contact...  but seemingly did not have…
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						<blockquote><p>With everyone plugged into the Olympics is anyone feeling a little bit sorry for Tasman and Northland? I'm not.</p></blockquote><p>I'm feeling sorry for Northland because I'm from Northland.</p><p>I remember listening to Northland defending the Ranfurly Shield, on the radio. And my Dad telling me about Peter Jones. Buggered was…</p>
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				<title>Tom Beard</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I'm mildly terrified at the prospect of the men's sprinting in the same sort of loving detail.</p></blockquote><p>Does anyone remember a viral video of men's sprinting, in slow motion, frontal view in tight lycra, with added sound effects? There was a bunch of white guys, and the effects were a…</p>
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						<blockquote><p>No, I'm fairly sure she was standing.</p></blockquote><p>Or is it thst she <em>has</em> standing?</p>
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						<p>glad you found that photo of george w.  <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/olympics_blog/2008/08/george-bush-mee.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this was my favourite</a>.</p><blockquote><p>The president needs some work on his passing, mis-hitting a pair off his knuckles. When May-Treanor passed the ball back to him, he acted like he was going to dive after it but decided to stay on his…</p></blockquote>
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						<blockquote><p>Kendall notwithstanding.</p></blockquote><p>No, I'm fairly sure she was standing.</p><blockquote><p>I'm mildly terrified at the prospect of the men's sprinting in the same sort of loving detail</p></blockquote><p>As are the Dropkicks. Although to be fair for 20% of us, "terrified" probably isn't the word.</p><p>Why is it they can make suits…</p>
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				<title>andrew llewellyn</title>
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						Oh goodness, the yachting/windsurfing is boring. Kendall notwithstanding.
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But when we do get to see the events, my goodness, don't they look good!? I could watch those underwater tracking shots of Michael Phelps, with the Water Cube's bubbly roof above him, for ages.</p></blockquote><p>Here, we're already refering to those shots as 'swim porn'. I'm mildly terrified at the…</p>
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						<p>"I just wish the suits had some kind of lights in them to show where the strike was, it's a bloody tough sport for spectators"</p><p>Why not a plastic bladder full of red-coloured dye on the front of the padded jacket &ndash; a hit and it spurts out &ndash; just…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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