Public Address | Cafe | Field Theory: And they're off! https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266305#post266305 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266305#post266305 All coaches had the right to ask for a review. If they didn’t, which they didn’t, completely fair. It was only one performance of one gymnast on one apparatus. I now cant remember which one it was sorry but they only reviewed one gymnast on one thing.Think it was dismount… ]]> Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:01:49 +1200 Al C https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266250#post266250 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266250#post266250 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:40:57 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266240#post266240 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266240#post266240 Fair enough. 2008 wasn't bad for Olympic coverage here, either, probably a similar reason.

But tell me, how is it you're listed as having made 0 posts, when clearly you've made one? Welcome, 0 poster. Let's get that number a little higher.

]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:54:38 +1200 Al C https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266239#post266239 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266239#post266239 While trying not to sound like I'm rubbing it in, I have to say that in the UK you can get brilliant (free) coverage.

Obviously encouraged (or probably required to justify the cost) by the fact that it's a home games the BBC is showing all sports live. While they…

]]> Thu, 02 Aug 2012 20:51:53 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266065#post266065 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266065#post266065 Did they review the efforts of the other teams in the running for medals? How could it be fair if they didn’t?

All coaches had the right to ask for a review. If they didn't, which they didn't, completely fair. It was only one performance of one gymnast on one…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:58:08 +1200 simon g https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266064#post266064 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266064#post266064 You can tell you're getting old when the same conversations (and media column-fillers) return every four years ...

"Why haven't we got more medals?" "Because you haven't bothered looking at the schedule".

Whatever acronym SPARC has morphed into should ban all funding for sailing and rowing and anything else that…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:57:53 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266060#post266060 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266060#post266060 Did they review the efforts of the other teams in the running for medals? How could it be fair if they didn’t?

They reviewed the performances at the request of every coach who requested a review. So no. How could it be fair? Everyone else knew what was going on,…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:54:42 +1200 Kyle Matthews https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266057#post266057 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=266057#post266057 Japan asked for a review and we saw all the judges review the footage together and change the grade once it was analysed. If as in gymnastics a performance is graded by deducting marks for ability to execute certain moves, I think the video footage actually makes marking easier and… ]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:40:46 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265976#post265976 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265976#post265976 some complaints from sports watchers who feel that you shouldn’t revisit the ref’s (or in this case judge’s) decisions after the fact.

Yeah, to me it's more important to get it right. If there's some obvious point that's been missed in the heat of the moment, I think it should…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:45:25 +1200 Sofie Bribiesca https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265949#post265949 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265949#post265949 There have be some complaints from sports watchers who feel that you shouldn’t revisit the ref’s (or in this case judge’s) decisions after the fact.

But when would you appeal if there hasn’t been a decision. What, would you appeal if before?
Japan asked for a review and we saw…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:39:08 +1200 David Hood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265933#post265933 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265933#post265933 Re: Judging- I see the men's teams gymnastic's medals were reassigned after the Japanese team requested a video review of the live judges decisions, so placing went from China, Britain, Ukraine to China, Japan, Britain.
There have be some complaints from sports watchers who feel that you shouldn't revisit the…

]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 09:21:30 +1200 Matthew Littlewood https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265905#post265905 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265905#post265905 Not really related to the discussion, but a couple of asides (once every four years, I kinda surrender to the Olympics, although if you drew up a list of reasons why I shouldn't, I'd probably agree with most of them).

First of all, did anyone else see that press conference…

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:54:04 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265859#post265859 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265859#post265859 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:53:32 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265854#post265854 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265854#post265854 that may give creedence to your view

My view that the women gymnasts are women?

The fact is that the athletes look. bigger this year

You have a bigger TV? ;-)

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:38:50 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265851#post265851 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265851#post265851 Well, it seems breasts are bigger this year too so I guess that may give creedence to your view
Still not the point though. The fact is that the athletes look. bigger this year, regardless of gender.

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:36:44 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265841#post265841 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265841#post265841 the Women are looking rather manly rather than childlike.

Erm. Not like any of the men I know.

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:20:26 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265840#post265840 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265840#post265840 The women are women, not girlsThat was not my point. My point was the sheer size of all of the athletes but as you bought it up I would say the Women are looking manly rather than childlike. ]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:16:08 +1200 Jean Hughes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265812#post265812 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265812#post265812 Goddamn I love weightlifting. The lifters are some of the most amazing athletes at the games. Om Yun Chol’s 168kg record lift in the B-Group of the men’s 56kg class was astounding.
I have to say the same now after this morning. One plus of recent underemployment is finding out…

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:10:40 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265774#post265774 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265774#post265774 Daiane Dos Santos of Brazil is 29!

Good lord! And a fine specimen she still is.

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:08:16 +1200 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265773#post265773 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265773#post265773 The women are women, not girls.
Hell, some of the women were in their late 20s. Daiane Dos Santos of Brazil is 29!

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:06:05 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265770#post265770 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265770#post265770 that the gymnasts are a lot bigger this year

The women's gymnastics? The age requirement is now 16, not 14 as previously. The women are women, not girls.

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:04:36 +1200 Steve Barnes https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265741#post265741 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265741#post265741 Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:12:48 +1200 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265672#post265672 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265672#post265672 sniff of victory ]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:29:32 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265662#post265662 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265662#post265662 but the type of sport where judging is so subjective that multiple judges are needed in order to balance things out is different from sports where one judge (of any particular aspect) is considered sufficient

I hear controversy on a regular basis about referee decisions in rugby matches. Perhaps they…

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:17:54 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265642#post265642 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265642#post265642 Why? As long as it’s fair?

The bit where I begin with “Not saying” was important as a means to divine my views on this matter.

why shouldn’t sport have a judgeable aesthetic component, if it’s relevant

My point was that I didn’t have a problem with that, but the…

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:17:40 +1200 Lilith __ https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265640#post265640 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265640#post265640 Not saying I agree with removing particular sports, but if a sport needs multiple judges, in order to ensure some type of fairness, or if the highest and lowest scores get dropped, maybe that’s more the type of judging which is concerning.

Why? As long as it's fair?

And why…

]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:24:39 +1200 Tim Croft https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265639#post265639 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265639#post265639 Jon Stewart has, of course, made fun of. ]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 04:21:42 +1200 Tim Croft https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265638#post265638 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265638#post265638 bizarre conspiracy theory about the logo. ]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 04:17:43 +1200 izogi https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265606#post265606 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265606#post265606 Aren't the judgey sports sort of the point of the Olympics, though? It felt wrong yesterday watching S. Williams v Jankovic at Wimbledon. Switching over to the gymnastics felt more Olympic.

Maybe this is an argument for bringing back Olympic events in sculpture, painting, music and literature (including drama, epic…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:32:29 +1200 Chris Waugh https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265590#post265590 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265590#post265590 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 15:37:16 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265586#post265586 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265586#post265586 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:43:47 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265585#post265585 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265585#post265585 Aren’t the judgey sports sort of the point of the Olympics, though?

Citius, Altius, Fortius?

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:23:28 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265584#post265584 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265584#post265584 Not saying I agree with removing particular sports, but if a sport needs multiple judges, in order to ensure some type of fairness, or if the highest and lowest scores get dropped, maybe that's more the type of judging which is concerning.

A tennis line judge can make a wrong…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:20:13 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265583#post265583 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265583#post265583 really not see a "2012"? Or are you all havin' a larf? ]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:12:11 +1200 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265582#post265582 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265582#post265582 the logo is a deconstructed "2012"

ah

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:07:19 +1200 Graeme Edgeler https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265581#post265581 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265581#post265581 Oh and like 2.5 hours of rugby and league on Sunday morning.

I’d put money on Prime being contractually required to air that semi-final. Part of the agreement between SANZAR and Sky for the Super 15, including free-to-air replay rights will include Sky guaranteeing that they will air certain matches…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:06:43 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265580#post265580 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265580#post265580 Aren't the judgey sports sort of the point of the Olympics, though?

It felt wrong yesterday watching S. Williams v Jankovic at Wimbledon. Switching over to the gymnastics felt more Olympic.

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:06:29 +1200 Russell Brown https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265579#post265579 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265579#post265579 That logo is everywhere.

Having read that the logo is a deconstructed "2012" I'm finally able to make some sense of it.

I'm still not sure it can displace the Lisa Simpson thing from my consciousness though ...

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:03:58 +1200 Jeremy Andrew https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265577#post265577 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265577#post265577 Historically my (highly limiting) rule of thumb for "it should be in the Olympics" has been "getting yourself/an object as far as possible (vertically or horizontally) and/or as quickly as possible". However we would lose both the Daft Punk joustery and beach volleyball so perhaps not...

I think you should…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 14:01:27 +1200 Gareth Ward https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265576#post265576 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265576#post265576 Historically my (highly limiting) rule of thumb for "it should be in the Olympics" has been "getting yourself/an object as far as possible (vertically or horizontally) and/or as quickly as possible". However we would lose both the Daft Punk joustery and beach volleyball so perhaps not...

Re Sky, as mentioned…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:52:54 +1200 Angus Robertson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265575#post265575 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265575#post265575 logo is everywhere. ]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:44:16 +1200 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265572#post265572 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265572#post265572 I was actually choosing sports where the judges have to make a decision about the action. Unlike field events where a foot over the line is easily noticed, a foul call in basketball, a low punch in boxing, a straight arm in weightlifting is a judgement.

Also what you call…

]]> Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:36:45 +1200 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265570#post265570 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265570#post265570 Mon, 30 Jul 2012 13:21:27 +1200 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265569#post265569 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-and-theyre-off/?p=265569#post265569 Discussion from blog post.

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