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				<title>Keir Leslie</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah but how many can say why</p></blockquote><p>I doubt it was the money that took Aberdeen to the Cupwinner's Cup against Real Madrid. (And the Super Cup!)</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						People who clamour for a salary-cap like system in football generally ignore the whole promotion-relegation thing. I think the major leagues in Europe should have fewer teams (16 would be my ideal) but even with 20 you have most teams playing for stuff deep into the seasons. Bearing in mind…
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>OK, perhaps the Pulse is the exception that proves the rule, although there will be games in Wellington next season.</p><p>But the season is over for the Tactix, mystix, and Steel, and they’ll be back next year.</p><p>Going into the final month of the 9 month Premiership, <strong>all</strong> sides had…</p>
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				<title>Emma Hart</title>
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						<blockquote><p>But the PULSE can lose all they like and they’ll be back next year.</p><p>Don't be so sure.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Pulse are toast at next review &ndash; the thinking being that the NZ player base needs to be spread less thinly to be competitive with Aus.</p>
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				<title>Richard Wain</title>
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						I watched the game down a pub this morning with several friends from various parts of the world, just us clad in Barça tops amongst a red-clad horde... we had a great time, and even escaped injury! Not the sort of thing one would necessarily be able to say in…
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<p>Alright, I'll happily start hating the game not the Playa (or Managa in this case).</p><blockquote><p>But the PULSE can lose all they like and they’ll be back next year.</p></blockquote><p>Don't be so sure.</p>
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				<title>Peter Darlington</title>
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						It seems to me that ego and hubris from Man Utd played the biggest part in this final. Fergie should've learned from the Chelsea game that the way to play Barca was by strangling them. Chelsea were within a gnat's pube of making it to the final because of the…
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						But on the matter at hand, Barca were far and away the better team this morning.  Let's not forget they did the Spanish League, Spanish Cup & European Cup treble this season.
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				<title>Paul Rowe</title>
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						<p>Everything about the current success at Manchester United is down to Ferguson and the support he gets from the Board.  The huge budget, the visceral hatred, are all products of the success he brought the club.</p><p>If he hadn't won the FA Cup in 1989 he probably would have been…</p>
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				<title>Tony Parker</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Although if one were to make such a distinction on today's game, then surely the best player in the world is Iniesta ...</p><p>Iniesta wouldn't be far behind, actually, but it was sort of a final between Ronaldo and Messi based on the rest of the season. I think to…</p></blockquote>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<p>Danielle: Yes.</p><p>To get a reaction more visceral still, refer to the team as "United". Not a good idea on the streets of Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, and so on.</p><p>As for franchises vs. relegation, there's no contest, is there? Apparently somebody will win the Super-Number this weekend, and then the…</p>
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				<title>Richard Irvine</title>
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						<p>LB is going to cane me for this, but I don't mind Man U. I really like Fergusson, who suppplied my fav ever sporting quote after their 1999 win ("Foootball... bloody hell"). I really like Roy Keane too. </p><p>They were a bit shit this morning, though. Barcelona fully deserved the…</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>But the PULSE can lose all they like and they’ll be back next year.</p><p>I think a Newcastle fan might find that just a bit insulting.</p><p>But thanks for bringing up the netball.  Even at this stage only the Magic of the NZ sides have anything other than pride to…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>The Premiership is one of the few competitions in the world where every team has SOMETHING MEANINGFUL to play for.</p></blockquote><p>Playing in a tournament just to try and not-lose isn't fun. Just ask the Pulse.</p>
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				<title>Danielle</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No, it'd take abot a week I reckon.</p></blockquote><p>Hmmm. How long would it take a human?</p><p>(Query, based on profound ignorance: is being a ManU fan a bit like being a Yankees fan? Is the visceral hatred of the Manchester United shirt the same as what the wearers of the…</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I don't follow the premiership because I don't care for a three (sometimes four) horse race</p></blockquote><p>So you don’t like the relegation or European Qualification battles then?</p><p>The Premiership is one of the few competitions in the world where every team has SOMETHING MEANINGFUL to play for.</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						So Sir Alex does actually train the players, he's not just a glorified scout (although that is also an admirable skill). Good to hear. See, as I've said before, I don't follow the premiership because I don't care for a three (sometimes four) horse race. If he turned Man U…
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						No, it'd take abot a week I reckon.
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						<blockquote><p>Have a week look at the success they had</p></blockquote><p>Shouldn't even take that long.</p>
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				<title>simon g</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I had forgotten because I don't care. All I really knew about this match was that Manchester United were trying to be the first team to win back to back Champion's League titles.</p></blockquote><p>I think that puts Hadyn's analysis of Ferguson's record in its proper perspective.</p><p>But still, I'm delighted…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Yeah but how many can say why</p></blockquote><p>Huh? Have a wee look at where Manchester United was when he took over. Have a week look at the success they had, with a budget that wasn't always massive (it became massive largely BECAUSE of his success). Consider his ability to use…</p>
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				<title>Andrew G</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I sort of think you could put an angry Orang-utan in charge of Man U and you'd win the Premiership just as often.</p></blockquote><p>And that just insults every other manager in the premiership, or Europe for that matter.</p>
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				<title>LegBreak</title>
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						<p>An angry red-faced ranga might be able to guide Man U to a premiership next year if they took over now.</p><p>But this one has basically built 4 or 5 different teams over the last 20 years.  Probably his biggest strength has been knowing when to give big players the…</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>I doubt anybody could name more than a handful of managers in the history of soccer that have been either more influential or successful.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah but how many can say why</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>No I say "probably" because I don't know much about his success as a manager.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, you aren't kidding there. I doubt anybody could name more than a handful of managers in the history of soccer that have been either more influential or successful.</p>
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				<title>Tim Michie</title>
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						<p>Oh, the Barcelona followers who talked down their pespects from players out will be stoked.  Game time was too close to work start but otherwise I'd've been there enjoying the enthusiasm.</p><p>What with how they said above, I'd thought it was to be Man. U. and so commiserations Neil...</p>
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				<title>Hadyn Green</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Even despite this morning's result that's a big call. I guess the word "probably" suggests that you don't know but he might be because you think he's an arsehole?</p></blockquote><p>No I say "probably" because I don't know much about his success as a manager. I sort of think you could…</p>
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				<title>Andrew G</title>
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						<blockquote><p>...and think he's probably over-rated</p></blockquote><p>Are you serious? <br />Even despite this morning's result that's a big call. I guess the word "probably" suggests that you don't know but he might be because you think he's an arsehole?</p>
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						<blockquote><p>I mentioned it since somebody talked recently about the end of the line for Tommy Smyth. He gets another season</p></blockquote><p>A sour taste to an otherwise perfect morning.</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>Although if one were to make such a distinction on today's game, then surely the best player in the world is Iniesta ...</p></blockquote><p>Iniesta wouldn't be far behind, actually, but it was sort of a final between Ronaldo and Messi based on the rest of the season. I think to…</p>
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				<title>Richard Llewellyn</title>
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						<blockquote><p>in a funny old way it did make Messi the best player in Europe, if not elsewhere</p></blockquote><p>Although if one were to make such a distinction on today's game, then surely the best player in the world is Iniesta ...</p><p>Great game. Thought Man U contributed plenty to the spectacle,…</p>
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						<p>Man U owned, totally outclassed.</p><p>That’s the most one-sided European final I can remember since AC Milan were lording it all 20 years ago.</p><p>As for the Ferg desire to be the first team to win back to back Champion's League titles.  That’s tacky and disingenuous and says more about…</p>
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				<title>giovanni tiso</title>
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						<blockquote><p>An older gentleman from a few rows back whispered something about the "sun". More sensible riders hushed him and one voice chastised with: "don't jinx it".</p></blockquote><p>Here, let me <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/2450730/Cold-wet-and-windy-weekend" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">help you with that</a>. </p><p>The game was a cracker, and I suppose that yes, in a funny old way it did…</p>
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						<p>Discussion from blog post.</p>
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