Public Address | Cafe | Field Theory: An important message for aspiring sportswomen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/ en-us Copyright (c) 2026 Public Address recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201555#post201555 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201555#post201555 The End of Days is nigh…
That's two in one day. Not that we're counting or any-ting. If you hit three, we'll have to declare a national wormhole-y day.

]]> Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:24:42 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201553#post201553 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201553#post201553 It seems even Paul Holmes has his standards regarding Mr Lhaws.

WTF is wrong with the world – a Holmes column that doesn't lead to a psychic power-chunder? The End of Days is nigh...

]]> Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:14:31 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201534#post201534 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=201534#post201534 Paul Holmes has his standards regarding Mr Lhaws. ]]> Mon, 21 Feb 2011 00:42:36 +1300 dyan campbell https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200977#post200977 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200977#post200977 I wonder what Michael Laws would make of two of Canada's greatest athletes?

Rick Hansen and Terry Fox .

I suppose Fox really wouldn't have qualified as an athlete in Law's eyes, what with dying before he could run any more than he did.

Terrance Stanley "Terry" Fox CC OD, (July 28,…

]]> Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:14:02 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200964#post200964 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200964#post200964 As the coach of the NZ Paralympic Shooting Team in Athens 2004 (Michael Johnson – Gold Medal) I was absolutely stunned by his comments.
Bravo.
+1
As Eve Rimmer was a close family friend, I also. Interesting discussion on Gizmodo about prosthetic limbs;

But in one instant, after Pistorius entered…

]]> Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:54:25 +1300 Roger https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200947#post200947 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200947#post200947 I think Paralympic NZ needs to invite him to a few sports

Ross, "as the coach of the NZ Paralympic Shooting Team", do you have a vacancy for a target?

]]> Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:01:24 +1300 Craig Ranapia https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200924#post200924 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200924#post200924 Not really, he’s just going through the rolodex of hate.

Nah, it’s worse that that – it’s cheap shots at easy targets, and as long as APN and Mediaworks are happy to keep being textbook enablers…Hey, it's not like those crips and retards are anyone important. Like the All Blacks.…

]]> Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:48:18 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200900#post200900 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200900#post200900 the desperate, insecurity-driven urge to dominate something

That's what I meant (but better said)

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:58:57 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200899#post200899 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200899#post200899 Not really, he's just going through the rolodex of hate. I think his most transparent moment was while Henry was under fire for the 'real New Zealander' comments, and he tried to barge in. I'm despicable too, see! I doubt he believes most of the things he says, they're just… ]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:38:27 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200893#post200893 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200893#post200893 Staggering Laws.

Not really, he's just going through the rolodex of hate. I think his most transparent moment was while Henry was under fire for the 'real New Zealander' comments, and he tried to barge in. I'm despicable too, see! I doubt he believes most of the things he says,…

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:37:54 +1300 Kumara Republic https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200892#post200892 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200892#post200892 Strong men delight in that. The problem goes deeper than sport.

Probably for the same reasons that soccer hooligans in England rouse their rabble – that sense of decaying empire, and the desperate, insecurity-driven urge to dominate something. Only here in NZ, it's the mouths that do the kicking, not…

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 20:32:15 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200883#post200883 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200883#post200883 As the coach of the NZ Paralympic Shooting Team in Athens 2004

Bravo

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:55:49 +1300 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200871#post200871 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200871#post200871 Staggering Laws. As the coach of the NZ Paralympic Shooting Team in Athens 2004 (Michael Johnson – Gold Medal) I was absolutely stunned by his comments.

I think Paralympic NZ needs to invite him to a few sports and explain the classification criteria. What he needs to udnerstand is these…

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:23:01 +1300 Rich Lock https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200806#post200806 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200806#post200806 Strong men delight in that.

Physically strong perhaps, but not mentally strong...

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:13:22 +1300 Sacha https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200754#post200754 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200754#post200754 As the latest Lhaws mindfart shows us, women aren't the only systematically devalued athletes.

International Paralympic Committee president Sir Philip Craven, said he was "utterly disgusted" by Laws' comments which were an insult to all paralympic competitors.

"His derogatory comments are an insult to all athletes within the paralympic movement who…

]]> Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:56:43 +1300 Bevan Shortridge https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200730#post200730 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200730#post200730 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:37:52 +1300 Kris V https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200713#post200713 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200713#post200713 I contine to believe that as Sky absorbed male sports TVNZ needed something to programme and netball became free to air.

heh... I've just spent the last 4 days hammering out (errr I mean, finely crafting) a conference paper on aspects of carnival in the tv coverage of the 2007…

]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:09:46 +1300 BenWilson https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200683#post200683 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200683#post200683 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:41:33 +1300 Bart Janssen https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200658#post200658 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200658#post200658 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:44:26 +1300 Tim Michie https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200618#post200618 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200618#post200618 There's exceptions to this rule though, Netball being the obvious I contine to believe that as Sky absorbed male sports TVNZ needed something to programme and netball became free to air. I'd love to be disabused but only remember international test consistently covered prior to Sky dominating the market.

;)…

]]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:05:52 +1300 Jacqui Dunn https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200557#post200557 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200557#post200557 Why watch the Black Ferns win the WC when I know damn well that my local club senior mens side would beat them by a hundred points?

Oh yeah? The girls – light, bright and very intelligent – would score a try or two while the blokes were still organizing…

]]> Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:44:48 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200552#post200552 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200552#post200552 Well if you disagree you can easily test this by not watching the last ten minutes of any game. See if you still enjoy watching competition if you can never know the outcome :-)

Yamis never said you only watch for the quality, he said there isn't only one reason.…

]]> Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:39:12 +1300 Amy Galvani https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200544#post200544 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200544#post200544 I’ll disagree slightly with you Amy in that people watch sport for a variety of reasons, to make out like there’s only one reason is a bit presumptuous.
Well if you disagree you can easily test this by not watching the last ten minutes of any game. See if you…

]]> Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:26:33 +1300 Yamis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200501#post200501 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200501#post200501 (Which maybe takes us away from the point of Hadyn's post, which might have been (?) a comment on the exclusion of the world cup winning women's rugby team from Halberg consideration perhaps? On that front it might be worth noting that since 2001 women have won the supreme award… ]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:14 +1300 Yamis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200498#post200498 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200498#post200498 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:31:28 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200494#post200494 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200494#post200494 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:02:39 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200493#post200493 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200493#post200493 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:01:42 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200490#post200490 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200490#post200490 I will go occasionally if I am reminded there is a game on. You're arguing women's sport should be restricted to people actively seeking it, because, what, men's teams deserve to attract casual sports fans and women's teams don't?

It seems a weak argument to me. To have casual fans…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:29:45 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200489#post200489 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200489#post200489 I knew the White Ferns were playing because I listen to radio sport. If you are interested in watching womens cricket then go and find out when it’s played, don’t whinge because there was no full page ad in the local paper. I often go to watch club sport in… ]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:13:16 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200487#post200487 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200487#post200487 People don’t watch sports for the quality (i guess you mean skill) of participants. They watch it to see who wins.

Actually, I'm going to have to partially disagree there. I went to early Phoenix games with every intention of cheering and enjoying but in the end the quality of…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:10:08 +1300 Amy Galvani https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200486#post200486 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200486#post200486 People don’t watch sports for the quality (i guess you mean skill) of participants. They watch it to see who wins. Horse racing has a huge audience yet they don’t show greater skill at running a distance than other animals and humans.
An exciting game is where teams or individuals…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:00:55 +1300 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200484#post200484 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200484#post200484 Can you imagine the hue and cry if Richie got pregnant this year and couldn't make the World Cup? It's just taken as read that if a Silver Fern is pregnant, the team moves on and picks another.

A letter to the ED this morning in the DomPost talking about…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:48:43 +1300 Yamis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200481#post200481 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200481#post200481 Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:59:45 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200479#post200479 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200479#post200479 It's always so nice to be reminded of what I know. Otherwise I might start having thoughts. Like, 'Bullshit'.

When the women's version of a sport is played by amateurs and the men's played by professionals yes, the gulf is pretty obvious. Also, duh! But when they're either both played…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:31:54 +1300 Lucy Stewart https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200468#post200468 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200468#post200468 There's nothing stopping people going down to local parks and watching females playing sport.

Actually, the lack of advertising around women's sport is appalling. I know the White Ferns played in Christchurch several times while I lived there, but buggered if I ever saw an ad for it except when…

]]> Sat, 12 Feb 2011 01:36:35 +1300 Yamis https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200465#post200465 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200465#post200465 Following on from giovanni...

If people want to get uptight about the lack of womens sport coverage I suggest they get off their butts and go watch some. There's nothing stopping people going down to local parks and watching females playing sport. There's nothing stopping people writing in to the…

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:03:16 +1300 giovanni tiso https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200457#post200457 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200457#post200457 There's exceptions to this rule though, Netball being the obvious, but I agree with the thesis. I saw a number of the Women's Cricket World Cup games in Australia in 2009 which was a fantastic tournament (particularly the game where beat Australia) but wasn't televised (it did get covered by… ]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:31:58 +1300 recordari https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200456#post200456 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200456#post200456 The whole 'award for not being completely shit, like everyone expected' thing is a bit irksome.

So awards are decided by how many people notice, times the expectation of failure, divided by the number of players not available through injury, brackets, it's your turn and you're a boy's team.

Lets…

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:50:38 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200455#post200455 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200455#post200455 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:32:36 +1300 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200453#post200453 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200453#post200453 Hmmmm....1953.

The year after Yvette Williams won the NZ SportsMAN's Trophy.

Edit.....for the second time BTW. First in 1950.

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:21:33 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200448#post200448 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200448#post200448 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:12:52 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200447#post200447 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200447#post200447 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:53:47 +1300 Ngaire BookieMonster https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200441#post200441 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200441#post200441 We're not interested in sports, we're too busy thinking about clothes, celebs and getting married. ]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:03:30 +1300 Jackie Clark https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200438#post200438 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200438#post200438 professional – get so little coverage. Regarding this, and many other things, I have to… ]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:54:16 +1300 Paul Williams https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200430#post200430 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200430#post200430 Play for little to no money while you study, work and have children but please do not expect recognition, not from the public, not from the media, not from your peers.

There's exceptions to this rule though, Netball being the obvious, but I agree with the thesis. I saw a…

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:38:02 +1300 sally jones https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200423#post200423 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200423#post200423 Great post Hayden, couldn't agree more.

You’re no good at it and your accomplishments mean nothing.

Read: you're too good at it and your accomplishments might eventually mean men's sport has to move over just a tiny tinsy bit to accommodate 'women's sport'. Instead of rugby and women's rugby, cricket…

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:11:44 +1300 Ross Mason https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200411#post200411 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200411#post200411 Haydn. Concur. But any minor sport irrespective of gender gets hammered. Anyone note the muted congrats when the All Whites et al were announced last night?

But. Arise Sir Ryan!

They get covered if they grunt and umm...get stalked by a jock sports "reporter" (tennis), Throw canonballs (shotput), show good…

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:41:21 +1300 JoJo https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200395#post200395 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200395#post200395 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:24:10 +1300 Anonymous Author https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200360#post200360 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200360#post200360 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:33:34 +1300 Hadyn Green https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200332#post200332 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200332#post200332 Ok weird, that whole last section should be quoted, not sure what’s going on there.
EDIT- fixed! Yay to Matt and the Cactus Labs boys!

]]> Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:10:01 +1300 Public Address https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200331#post200331 https://publicaddress.net/system/cafe/field-theory-an-important-message-for-aspiring/?p=200331#post200331 Discussion from blog post.

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